The New JFK Show # 295 with David Mantik Larry Rivera James Fetzer and Gary King | Jim Fetzer

➡Jim Fetzer on a JFK show with top researchers, including Dr. David Mantic. They discuss the JFK assassination, the evidence, and various theories. Dr. Mantic shares his journey of researching the case, focusing on the x-ray evidence. He believes the x-rays were modified to include a 6.5 millimeter object that wasn’t there during the autopsy, suggesting a cover-up.

➡ The text discusses a theory about two shots hitting a man during an incident at Daily Plaza. The shots, one to the forehead and one to the right temple, were witnessed by people present and were also captured in photos. A man named Schwinn, who was a photographic major, believed the autopsy photo was authentic based on the film’s aging and coloration. The theory was first presented by Doug Horn in his five-volume set, and it has been available to the public for over ten years.

➡ The text is a conversation about an upcoming interview, a discussion on some images related to a past event, and the importance of younger generations getting involved in their work. The speakers analyze images, discuss theories about what they depict, and express their hopes for future involvement from younger people. They also mention a person named David Knight, who they believe will be instrumental in carrying on their work.

➡ The text talks about a mock trial of Lee Oswald where Larry was supposed to be a witness. However, Larry was cut out from the trial due to some controversial discussions. The text also discusses a book that Larry and David are working on, which focuses on scientific and medical aspects rather than political motivations. They also discuss the alteration of the Zapruder film, a home movie of JFK’s assassination, and the inconsistencies between what doctors at Parkland Hospital saw and the official version of events.

➡ This discussion is about a book that examines the JFK assassination. The authors discuss various theories about the shots fired, including the possibility of multiple bullets and different angles of impact. They also talk about evidence like damage to the car and JFK’s injuries. The book is available in both Kindle and hardcover formats.

➡ Jim and Jesse Ventura had a fun time testing a shooting platform in Ventura county, hitting an immobile target once in three tries. They also discussed some altered images and the work of Garrison’s investigators. They ended their conversation by talking about David’s popular books and how to get an autographed copy. The group believes that their work is important for the country and hopes to continue their efforts.

You welcome to the new JFK show, number 295. We have the great pleasure of having Dr. David Mantic, one of the top JFK researchers in the world. We’ve got Larry Rivera, one of the top JFK researchers in the world. And we’ve got Jim Fetzer, one of the top JFK researchers in the world. And I’m Gary King, and I’m really proud to here, and we’re going to turn it over to Larry and Dr.

David Mannick. They’ve got a show. I think if we had David Lyft in here and Doug Horn and John Costella, we’d have pretty close to a really. I mean. But, David, you have been doing such sensational work from the beginning. Way back in 1992, did you ever imagine this journey would carry you to this destination? No, I could not see that far. That’s truly extraordinary to think about that.

I thought this would maybe be a year or two, but it’s been way beyond that. Not only that, but of course, at the time you were myopic. And believe it or not, that was a sensational benefit no one else had. David, it was a huge advantage. I mean, you know, I had the physics background, knew about optical density, but because your eyesight was so constricted. Well, I was almost blind.

Yeah. I could see what was going on in the films and the x ray. Just amazing. Just amazing how one might have thought was a handicapped turn out of this set of circumstances. I often wonder who arranged that. How would you compare the case today where it stands, versus when you first came out in the men who killed Kennedy? Dr. Ma? Well, as I said in this book, it’s amazing how little the public knew in 1963.

But almost as amazing is how much more we know now than we did even ten years ago, to say nothing of 30 years ago. Right? Absolutely. Come a long way, and there’s still a lot of detractors out there, but we’re fighting on. Anyhow, I think the propaganda onslaught has been so massive, David, is so stunning, that here you had the day of the assassination, NBC, the other major network, reporting two shots, a small, clean puncture wound to the throat and a shot to the right temple that blew his wings out the back of his head.

You got Malcolm Kildup, the acting press secretary, saying, it’s the right through the head. And then you got the word reporting there are no shots from in front. I mean, isn’t that staggering? Yeah, Malcolm Kildeff pretty much told us the story he didn’t report a shot from the school book depository on that day, he did not. Absolutely. You put together what the FBI and the Secret Service concluded that day.

There’d been three shots with three know the back, five and a half inches below the collar, about shallow shot, far as second knuckle of your little finger. The Conley shot in the back, JFK shot in the back of the head. You put that together with the two shots being reported on the networks all afternoon and evening, and you got four shots that were legitimate. How could they conceal that, David? I mean, it’s just amazing.

We know that both Connollies agreed with what you just said, and so did Jackie Kennedy. They were there. They heard what was happening. They saw what was happening. Poor Jackie has suffered such a dire fate. Some people even think Jackie shot Jack, which is about as dumb as it gets. But it’s one of those myths that seems to endure. There’s a lot of that going on. I’m actually on one five three news going on about Bill Cooper saying that the driver turned around and shot him.

And people are really believing that. And it’s amazing how many people believe that. It was all a big production, basically like Sandy Hook, and nothing really happened. I’m telling you that there’s a lot of people that believe that. Have you run into that, David? People saying they thought the whole thing was staged? No. That’s pretty uncommon. In my experience. Most people don’t know much of anything, first of all.

And those who do tend to be a little more sensible than that. Yeah, of course, if you looked at all the fake evidence and even body doubles and all that, you could put together a case that there was a lot of fabrication, but not the assassination itself being nothing but. Yeah, we can put that into the waste basket, I think. Well, we all do. But it’s just surprising that it seems to be resistant, like a vampire.

Human beings as well as we do. Now, after investigating this case, nothing should surprise us anymore. Yeah, so many years. You want to squeeze in a question? I got you off. Go ahead. I was just saying that it’s amazing how many. Look, we all know that there’s been lots of false flag events that were completely fabricated and there were no truth to them at all. But I’m telling you that more and more people are falling for these outlets.

Just like JFK was no different than Sandy Hook. I mean, it’s really happening. And people saying that the Secret Service shot him from behind by accident. This stuff keeps going out there, and we have to basically fight against absurdity like that. Well, keep it up. It’s unfortunate that we have to do that. That should have been buried ages ago. Yeah, I couldn’t agree more. So, if we can get into the book at all, what is this volume now different from? How does it make it different from the one that you published about the medical evidence a couple of years ago, specifically the Harper fragment and where it came from? I saw that you integrated some of that information into the new book.

Can you tell us about that? Well, when Jerome, who likes to be called Jerry Corsi, contacted me, his goal for this book was to make it a little more accessible to the layman. Right. Which I hope we have achieved. That was our goal. And so there’s a little bit more about my personal journey in here, a little more about my timeline, the way things actually unraveled. I’ve never really done that in any detail before, so it’s a little bit more storytelling, but it still includes the data that I collected from the National Archives in context in the timeline.

So I’ve never really told a story about my experience as such before. So this attempts to do that. I think that’s great, David. You needed a more accessible, reader friendly version, and I think you got it here. And how do you explain, for example, the X rays in the book to that layperson? Well, I focus a lot on that 6. 5 millimeter object, on the frontal x ray, which lies directly inside JFK’s right orbit.

This is the thing that nobody saw the night of the autopsy. Even though the x rays were on public display for dozens and dozens of people there, it’s clear that they all looked at this and nobody saw it. And yet it’s as plain as day. And as I tell in my own story in this book, when I showed these pictures to my seven year old son, who had no training as a radiologist, he spotted it instantly.

And then my five year old daughter, who had even less training in radiology, hadn’t seen what we were doing, walked across the room and looked at it and said, well, what’s it supposed to look like? I told her it was mainly white, and she said, oh, that’s it there. She found it right away, but everybody at the autopsy missed it. Now, how do you explain that? It wasn’t there.

It wasn’t there at the autopsy, of course. And we can’t get some crazy people to admit that, even though everybody who is there admits it before the ARB, the radiologists, all admitted it. So we have to accept that. So that’s from the premise that they are authentic. What was that that’s from the premise that the x rays, autopsy x rays, are authentic. Yeah, well, they’re copies. They’re mostly authentic, but they’ve been modified in critical areas, including the addition in the dark room later on of this 6.

5 millimeter object that was not their original. Superimposed? Correct, superimposed. It was superimposed as a double exposure in the dark room. And I showed how that could be done in that era. Right. No problem. David, when did you sort out the difference between the two headshots? Initially, we had the distribution of metallic particles that seemed to be from the same shot. But you gradually realized they were separate and required separate causal origins.

Yeah, we’re focused on the two frontal shots, and I didn’t do that. Doug Horn did that totally before I caught on to it. Doug really put the pieces together. We know from the x rays that there had to be a frontal shot high in the forehead, above the right orbit at the hairline. And we know that for sure because the metallic particles are there on the x ray.

We can’t deny that that’s absolutely true. But the problem with that, of course, is that it doesn’t explain the blowout in the back of the head. It doesn’t explain why the motorcycle men were hit by tissue debris behind the limousine. It only happened from a separate shot from the right temple, which is distinctly different. And both of those shots were observed in daily plaza. That is the damage from those shots, one in the forehead and one in the right temple.

Those were observed in daily plaza. We’re not just relying on the x rays for those. Now, on that shot, particular shot, that photos existed of that, because as I recall, Joe O’Donnell saw those. So we have witnesses who saw photographs in the immediate aftermath of the autopsy where those wounds were there. And then, of course, we have the story from Schwinn in Rochester, New York, which is the presented made the films.

Quinton saw what really looks to be an authentic JFK autopsy. It looked exactly like JFK. And there in that picture, we see in this artist’s reconstruction exactly where that temple, sorry, not temple, but the forehead wound above the right eye was located. So that was done under the direction of Quentin Schwinn, who saw the autopsy, went for the interview. We don’t have that photograph, of course. We just had his reconstruction.

Schwenn, who went for the interview, I cite that whole panorama in my book exactly like know. So I’m happy that this is picked up because that all came from Douglas Horn, obviously. Yeah, Doug Horn. Well, I think Schwinn contacted Horn initially. That’s how that got started. Yeah. Very powerful evidence. And I questioned Schwinn very closely about the photographic features of this particular film. And Schwinn was a photographic major at the Rochester Institute of Technology, I believe it was.

So he knew what he was talking about. So I asked him all the detailed questions about it, and it was clearly his impression that this was an authentic autopsy photograph. The aging of the film was appropriate, the coloration of the film, everything matched what it should, so that our audience can get a picture of what’s going on here. We’re talking about two shots, one to the temple frontal, and then a little bit more tangential from there.

Yes. The one was at the hairline in the forehead, on the right side of the forehead, but at the hairline, so it’s well above the eye. And many people who were in the emergency room did not see it because it was obscured by JFK’s hair. Yeah, but Dr. Crenshaw saw it in the emergency room, and he reported this live on television picture of him doing that. In our book, you can see Crenshaw pointing to the.

And at the same page we have a picture of the autopsy photograph, and so you can correlate it visually yourself and see, that’s. They match. Very good. Of course, Jackie said from the front it looked just fine, so even she. Right. Wouldn’t see it, even though she said he was having trouble holding his skull and brains together at the back of his head. For real? Yeah. I would like in your book, murder and dealy Plaza, you have an image of the blasted out in the back of the head that it’s very dramatic because there’s a lot talking about the sketch.

Yeah, the sketch. Yeah. How much damage could there have been back there? If we take into account, for example, the Harper fragment, which affects simile that I’m holding here in my hand, and other pieces that might have blown out as well. Yeah, we know there were other pieces. They were found on the street. So the hole was bigger than the Harper fragment. It had to be because Harper is just a component, just a small component of the whole thing.

Absolutely. Okay, Jim. So Doug horn figured out of the two shots to the head. David. Yeah. We have to give Doug credit for that. Yeah, I want to correct that. That was a real breakthrough. All the rest of us were a little bamboozled by that, although I must say I was puzzled by it, but I did not sort it out. It was Doug who did. Good. Very good.

Very good. And did he discern it was from that ground curbside sewer. I don’t remember Doug talking about the groundside sewer shot. I just don’t remember his ever talking about that, nor have I talked very much about it. But of course, you and I went there together, and you climbed down in the sewer and concluded it was wrong angle for the other shot. But it was completely different.

It was completely different. It had already been altered that entire opening, the bottom. Yeah, that’s true, Larry, but still, in terms of the angle, it wasn’t good for the shot that David was contemplating at the time. I mean, when did you first realize there were two shots to the side of the head, David? Two shots from the front, you mean? Yeah, two shots only after Doug Horn brought it up.

That was in his five volume set where that first appeared in print. So that’s been available to the public for over ten years now, 2009. Nobody seriously considered that. They may have thought about it, but they didn’t have any evidence for good. Very good. Very good. Wow. So Doug really did us a tremendous search. Doug is a major domo here. Yeah, very impressive. He’s rather reticent. He’s not wild about doing interviews and the like.

I think he felt he got pillory too many times unjustly. And, of course, he seen it. Well, he’s going to be in Kansas City next month. Oh, that’s good. And he was a major presence at our last meeting in Pittsburgh in November. He gave a talk and assisted in my talk. Excellent. Excellent. Okay, let me see if I can get this. No, no, I’m looking at this conference.

It’s going to be next month. And Douglas Horn, I didn’t know he’s going to be there, so that’s good news. First time I met Douglas Horn, he actually cited Larry Rivera’s work about the secret Service spreading out into the dealy plaza, if you remember that. And that’s when I first met you, way back then. That’s when the newcomb tapes first. We first started to work on the newcomer.

I was blown away when I first heard about those. Yeah, well, they tell you exactly. You got to work from there and see how the event unfolded based on their interviews there. And the whole story is just so incredible that they were suppressed the way that they were suppressed. Have you ever spoken to Tink Thompson about those interviews? No, I don’t even know him. You’d be surprised. I have no idea what Tink would say about that because he cannot possibly accept any of that evidence in view of his position.

Surprised how little fanfare Larry’s work has gotten on the newcomb tapes. Oh, yeah. Amazing. We first published the YouTube videos, Gary, I think, 2014 or 2015. The Jeff K. Horseman one and two. And even with the transcripts and everything and the discussions that we had. But in my opinion, it needs to be continually put out there. I’ve done a bit in my book about them, too, and I keep saying, well, this is not what we see in the Zapruder film, but that’s what these.

When Douglas Horn found out about them, he said, man, this changes everything. Like I said, for some people, but probably not for Tink. Awful lot of crickets going on. All I hear is crickets. David, has a word. Reached Rancho Mirage about the secret Service agent actually getting in the limousine during the limo stop. Glenn Bennett. Which is exactly the second Secret Service man. That’s a hard thing to say.

Is that what you’re asking? Yeah. Yeah. How’s the word got to Rancho Mirage? Have you heard about it before? Well, I heard about it before, but I don’t think anybody else did. Well, it came from Harges and Ellis. Go ahead, Larry, expand. It came from Harges and Ellis. They were very specific about that, both of them. Hey, a second secret Service agent. We almost lost him and everything he was talking about.

Photographs seem to cooperate. This, I believe, the ways in which they both altered and obfuscated his figure in the limousine, David. Yeah, I know. Now the Z film is being scrutinized in that manner where we’re getting a lot of alteration there. Airbrushing. And it just goes to show how overboard they went to alter this whole sequence there. That was a lot of work. Well, they didn’t have too much time.

They were a little sloppy. That’s right. And they left a lot of mistakes in the film. And we’re still have time to do it, right. Yeah. Like the flashing lights in the film was another one. No, you know that one, those frames that showed the right taillight. The brake light is off, and the left one is on. There’s a couple of frames, about five or six. It’s been airbrushed over.

That’s what it is. Yeah, that’s likely. It’s been airbrushed. The brake light. Yeah. Blink rate doesn’t match up. There’s just so many things. We have a lot of eyes looking at this now. A whole lot more eyes than we used to. Maybe Jim can give me the screen here, since I just want to show you guys something here. Got it. Okay. Have you had any invites for big interviews by news.

Major news media, David. I mean, it ought to be. The next Monday we’re scheduled with coast to coast. According to Wikipedia, they have 2. 2 million listeners. Yeah, they used to have a lot more, but, yeah, they used to be at 10 million, but the Wikipedia says they’re down to 2. 2. That’s the biggest one I know of. Yeah, that’s good. I should read a shout to John B.

Wellsday, but I think he’d be thrilled to have you and Jerry on. Well, do your best. Yeah, I shout. You got it. I’m right here. I’m just going to show you something here. Okay. Screen share. Of course, we’re hoping that RFK Jr. Will eventually speak out to the media, too. I suspect he will, but I have no idea what the timeline might. You got. You guys see this? Yes.

Okay. John Connolly, black suit and shirt. This is the actual after it been sent out to the laundry. And you can see the abulse. Yeah, you can, yeah. And I’ll be happy to send you these images. And this is so important because this gives you an idea of the trajectory. This looks like a flat shot, Jim. Perhaps from the second floor, the Dow tax building. This is one that really has to be on a flat trajectory, if you ask me.

This is obviously an exit hole. I’m amazed at this image is out there. Fellow researcher from the UK sent it to me. My inference had been, this was Mac Wallace from the book depository firing at Connelly. The mistaken believe it was Ralph Yarborough. Well, but this is more of a flat. If I can visualize this one than the one that penetrated the wrist and the thigh, I think there’s two different.

Obviously two different. You’re arguing that this is from the deltex building? This is a flat enough trajectory? Yeah, I would have to plot this in a 3d program, but it’s very interesting that this exists. This evidence exists. Okay, so here we’re seeing, obviously, where connolly, his mouth is puffed. Right? And here, again, the difference here is the know. Jeff K. Is wearing gray, and he always wore know.

He’s holding the stets, and he’s already been shot. Now, which shot would this be? The one that takes out his lung. And he’s got this pulmonary condition there, and you can’t even breathe. Or would this be the thigh? The wrist? Obviously not the wrist, because he’s holding on to the hat there. Okay, well, he may have been hit by more than one shot, too. Absolutely. Two or even three.

So this is part of the project that we’ve got on the Z film, breaking it down in data streams, and I didn’t want to really take over this thing here. And this is a clear example of the extensive alteration here going on. And this is the second agent. He’s wearing the gray suit. And this is equivalent to frame 343. And here’s what I was telling you about. That’s obvious.

Airbrush. Yeah. The brake light is blacked out. Yeah. And it’s like that for several frames. And look at this. Very peculiar. Okay. But we’re able to get all this discerning, all this new information from the digital quality that we’re able to, which I thought these certain people out of Hollywood were going to provide, and that never happened. All right. Because remember back all these big, I don’t know, five k scans or something of the Z film and finding out things that we didn’t know about the Z film, and it’s been there all along, if you ask me.

Yeah, we waited for a long time for that. It never happened. Yeah. But now we’re seeing one side comment on Connolly. He developed pulmonary fibrosis as a result of this. Shot him for the rest of his life, and it was a contributing cause to his death. Well, it’s no joke having a perforated lung the way he did. I’ve seen that, and it’s not a joke. It’s very painful.

They have to doctor mental. You got to put tubes in between your ribs, and that in itself is excruciating to drain the edema and the fluids and everything. Well said. And we’ve had a recent example of this as well, around January 6, when Senator Paul was attacked by some crazies and fractured multiple ribs and punctured his lung and made his COVID infection much worse. So he’s now at a higher risk for injury from later COVID infections or any kind of pulmonary infection.

So, yeah, we don’t want to do that to someone’s lung unless they’re truly your enemies. Ron Paul. Not Ron. Senator Rand Paul. Yeah, David, I have a number of images here, some of which are, of course, all too familiar, but others perhaps less. Well, here, I’ll just go directly to the article. Hang on. I saw that. Thank you. Yes, it’s getting a pretty good response, but. Of course.

Yeah, that was good. But your audience may want to check that. Yes, yes. For some reason. There we go. There we go. There we go. We get the COVID of the book, and we get your diagram, Dave, what you talk about ever so briefly, the arrows and so forth. Absolutely excellent. Good. And then of course, the book cover and the three where I mentioned in particular you’d introduce.

Yeah, your images here. Wonderful. Well done. Yeah. You’re happy with the images I chose? The images are great. And that’s big thing. And there’s Malcolm Tilde. That’s really. I know. And how could they bury that name? But how could the Warren report have the balls to conceal the fact that he was shot in the right temple or the right forehead? When you got the press secretary, I mean, it’s just outrageous.

I think it was after this they realized they could bamboozle the american people about anything, David. Well, maybe if we had the current press secretary there, they would have listened. Oh goodness. Ouch. So right off the bat, if you put together two blasts, Jim, he said it’s a simple matter of pull it right through the right. I know he did attribute it to Admiral Berkeley. I mean, how can you do better? And then the New York Times immediately is talking about a lone gunman.

I mean, see how the New York Times was used to perpetrate the fraud? I mean, they were absolutely vital. Just outrageous. Just outrageous. And then of course, all we have about Lee and the doorway which they were seeking to conceal so massively. Don’t you love how Larry did the reconstruction, David showing Billy and his red and white vertically striped short sleeve. That’s the way it really was too.

Very colorful. Yes, I know that. He was so heavy and obvious. This was not the same guy as the doorman. I mean, how outrageous. And then of course, your masterful stuff on area p. I mean, that was so fantastic. These images are so useful. Yeah, you must love how Larry found how Jackie’s white glove highlighted the defect in earlier frames, David. Yes, just wonderful stuff. And then of course, we have the view from inside.

Well, this is actually Larry at the above ground sewer opening there on the top of those came from Garrison. Those are Garrison’s guys. Those were Garrison guys. Yeah, those happen, I think, 67 when they went to Dallas. And that. And the other one where you can see him inside. I didn’t put that one in the article. Yeah. Then of course you got Larry’s blender view from inside the curbside, right? Yeah.

Just put a camera there and see what comes out of it. And put the car where X marks the spot. And that’s know X marks the spot. Indeed. Yeah. And then of course, David and I were struck by Newsweek putting the location for the fatal shot 30ft further down into office at this curbside sewer opening. They were telling us something. What struck me here is the thickness of the asphalt there that had been laid onto there year after year.

And we’re talking about this might have been taken like in 67, 68. So you already see that that level has been rising since 1963. Go ahead. Well, those were the ends of the thank you for that. Those are really good pictures. It’s getting a pretty good discussion. I think there’s going to be a lot more. There are 33 or four comments so far where I’ve made responses or rebuttals.

Six or eight of them I found interesting. What was it last week when we did the cubby hole over there with our friend there with the ladder? I can’t sell air. Photograph David, you can actually see the assassin walking away with a ladder. It’s amazing. I saw that. Yeah. Isn’t that just terrific? Now, what’s next here going forward? Obviously, it’s the youth movement. Younger generations need to get involved.

I think David Knight is a superstar in the making. If he isn’t already with his organization skills and his impetus. I’m just amazed. He’s only 50 years old and he’s the guy that right now he’s going to carry that torch. I absolutely am convinced. David did we ever tell you how Larry they’re going to have the mock trial of Lee Oswald and Larry was going to be a witness, but Larry sent them in advance how he’d done the superposition, proving that Lee was in the doorway and they cut him out of the David it’s just outrageous.

Just outrageous. Larry, tell David this story. These are supposed to be good people, and we’re cutting out the key witness for the whole thing to blow it apart. Larry, tell David that happened. It’s not that important anymore. 2017 Houston it is important. They were going to have the mock trial and they asked me to come in as an expert. I remember that episode. You were originally right, and then they left me stranded in Houston.

He sent them see in advance what he was going to present. David and at that point they remember all this is why I didn’t even have any electricity in Puerto Rico. The hurricanes had just hit and I was living day to day with a gallon of gasoline for a little generator. It was crazy. And then at the 11th hour, they said, you’re out. What happened? Oh, you guys and Don Fox were talking about anti semitic subjects on the new JFK show, number 88 or something like that.

This was an and they went, we know you didn’t say anything despective against Jews, but this Don Fox and Gary King ringing this bell and everything yeah, just rang it. That’s how they got rid of me. Yeah, when you ring patent bomb, he’s one. I could ring the bell. So anyway, and then Jim showed up at the conference, and stern person was there talking about the trial. And Jim got on the microphone and, you know, what is wrong with you people? And he let him have a piece of his mind, let’s just put it that way, was outrageous.

David Barry’s work was so brilliant. It was so perfect, and it was scientific, objective and definitive, which is the thing about science. And the way it was written a. It’s written up as a scientific know with methods, methodology. And you’re bringing all the information is how you got there. And then you expect other peers to review it and say, okay, I did what you said in that paper, but I got a different result.

Never happened. Just never happened at all. And then you got this other prayer man thing going on, and that’s not even scientific. Not even close to being what in the doorway paper was. What can you do? Obviously, they sell books. Prayer man Jim, ever heard of. Oh, yeah, that was a big no no. Not even close. All right. Yeah. Larry, you want to expand on prayer man? How are we doing, Gary? We got about half of our half hour glass to go.

We got about 20 minutes. That’s very good. David, would I be right? This is really medical, scientific, and not primarily primary political, motivational and so forth. Is there any discussion about the players and who is responsible in the new book? No, not in our book. That was not our focus. We wanted to really limit our discourse and not get into the somewhat grayer areas, although I’m keenly interested myself in this area.

But it’s not in our. Yes, I just want to confirm with the pages I’ve read so far. That was my inference. And I wanted to elaborate on the prayer man thing, Larry. I’m not really that much. I just heard about it. And they wrote a book, and supposedly they identified Lee Oswald as the man in the Wigman. Have you seen the Wigman film? Who’s in the corner? And there will be northwest corner of the doorway over there in that corner.

And you can see a figure there. But there is so very little definition to work with. At least with the man in the doorway, we were able to get, in fact, the entire, both Billy Lovelady and Lee Oswald, a lot more definition to work with and be able to do overlays with the prayer man. It’s just such a small area and it’s blurry. And Bart Kemp, I believe, is the author of the book, and he’s out of the.

You know, and they have their theory there that Billy Loveladys is actually doormat. Okay. It’s just more bullshit. In other words, I just pulled up some slides in case there was anything we wanted to catch capture that we haven’t already addressed here. This is all pretty familiar stuff coming to the fore. And, of course, Z film. Have you had any new insights about Zapruder based upon your latest research? Well, if I did, it’s all in my Pittsburgh talk from last November, which is online.

And the link is cited in my book. Okay, that’s Costella’s Z film. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Can I show you mine? Yeah, hang on a. Let me. Let me switch over. Make you a host again, my friend. Jim, can you send me that Costello Z film? Sure, go ahead. Larry, I’ve made you host. Okay, just a second. Okay. What kind of informal feedback are you getting, David, on the book? I mean, aren’t a lot of people reaching out to you? Not a lot.

Probably fewer than ten so far. These are people who know me. And email address. You see that very few people have my email address, so I wouldn’t expect too many personal contacts. Okay, this is interesting, David. I’ve never seen this version before. Go ahead. It’s a lot lighter. It’s digitally cleaned up. Look. Comment on it, Larry, as you go forward. Did it freeze up? You can see the usual.

Yeah. Did you deliberately stop? Even just stopping right here. You can see all the airbrushing and the greenish haze that permeates. Nellie was supposed to let go of that bouquet a long time ago. Yet it’s still floating here. You see this? And I just did a random stop here. This is a gray suit. This is not Connolly. All right? And then they also got some airbrushing here and here and here.

It’s just outrageous. Once you get this type of here. Again, you see this. It just changes here, the green haze here. And look how it’s cut off here. See this amazing stuff here? You see that? And here’s the second agent. All right? And he’s arranging bodies from the people that I’ve spoken know, because Connolly and Nellie are on the floorboards. So very interesting footage here. That. Very clean.

And even at the end here, you can see that. There we go. Let me just back up a little bit. There he is. See right here? Now he’s in the back. That’s not JFK, this guy. He’s already in the back there. I just wanted to show you mine. You don’t want to go all the way through. All the way through. Oh, I did already. So that’s what we’re now finding out.

The extensive alteration of the Z film, which we knew, but even more than we had known about. Yes. Well, I’ll just pull up some more. Know this was a Godzilla, as you say. We know all about the camera and the split and unsplit and all John’s brilliant work on the film and his introduction, David, I’m really amazed how many are still not familiar with John’s work on the manner.

They’re not serious researchers if they’ve ignored. I agree. I agree. Kind of stunning in many ways. And then, of course, you’re special with a five hit and Larry’s horseman, JFK Horseman. And the holes in the shirt and the jacket. That’s the one. Back up a little bit. That’s the one that Marty shots right there. That’s the one. He said, this is impossible. You cannot explain this here. See how low that on the shirt is? But then you got it coming out of his throat.

Come on. Yeah. This is all pictured in our book. This exact image is in our. Come on, man with the american university speech. Those were his two main thesis for the book. Nothing. I don’t need to prove anything else. You mean that it’s ridiculous to suggest that could have come out the throat? Of course, we have a whole appendix in our book about Spectre’s escapades with these images, including other ones.

Yeah. How blatantly they perpetrate fraud on the american people. Have we ever had a greater case? I mean, you got the moon landing, you got 911. But this was so personal. Yeah. And he had a lot to do with it. Arlen Specter. Yeah. Should I ring my bell? I’ll pull up a few more in case we want to comment on any of it. Was someone saying that the mark here, Boswell’s mark, didn’t correspond to the shirt and the jacket? Did we hear that or not? David, doesn’t Boswell’s mark here correspond to the shirt and the jacket? I think regarding the Parkland doctors, the documentary that came out last year, which is so stunning, how can you refute this? And especially that they didn’t want this to be published and it wouldn’t come out until they were all gone.

And it’s so obvious that the difference in what they saw at Parkland with what the official version of Bethesda and Walter Reed and all that is just so incredible. Those doctors, you could feel that so many years later, they were still feeling this thing that they had been carrying for all their. Yeah, that’s a very nice threat of loss of their career. This image is also in our book.

So is this one good, David? Good, yeah, it’s all in one appendix. So you can just slide back and forth between images and see how impossible all of this. You know, Roy discovered there was actually damage to the upholstery. Yeah. Next in the upholstery. Fascinating. And of course, Ford changing. This is such a good version of the alternate six. I really like this one. It’s very clean. And of course the wind until we got a hold of the negative, Jim, with David Knight.

That is incredible. We have it. That’s a great shot. The previous 1225 showing that the window was damaged way before the Alkan six photograph. Yes, very good. Of course. Absolutely. Probably around 211 or 212. I agree. Well, when it was reviewed in Washington DC at NPIC, they chose, I think it was Z 191. And when I looked at the images at the 6th floor museum, I could see it pretty well at 193.

193, yeah. In 255 you’re seeing the reaction afterwards, of course. And 193 happens to be the point up at the top of Elm street where the car is completely stationary for about two or 3 seconds as seen from the cubby hole. Yeah. Yes sir. We’ve been there. So that shot may have been made from a greater distance than I would. This is good too. This is in our book too.

The two tiny holes in JFK’s cheek that had to be plugged because they were leaking. What caused that? Yeah, two more bullets. No, that’s ridiculous. It was glass shards. Glass. Glass shards, of course, caused. How could they do the JFK revisited and not use as your proof that the magic bullet here is anatomical? I think Oliver Stone didn’t really grasp the whole picture. Agree. I agree. Medical expert.

But didn’t he just leave it up to. Even Oliver Stone couldn’t miss that, David, that’s simple enough for a child. We had a couple of shows where we went and remember there were so many other topics that could have been covered that were not anything that we didn’t know 30 years before. That was brought up in his new. And that’s that I attribute to Eugenio. I don’t think Oliver Stone really was involved.

Here’s your book, which is. Thank you, Jim. This is very nice. And it’s now available in kindle and hardcover. Very good. Yeah, it’s wonderful, David. And a very reasonable price, by the way, for a 500 plus page paperback for 23. 99. That’s excellent, David. Over 500 pages. Go back to the previous. The one with the arrows. No, there you go. Now, that’s the one I want. Maybe we can finish with this one.

Okay. Any type of sequence here. Well, I think the occipital shot, the shot from the rear probably came first, and then we can debate about the two frontal shots which came first. That’s a tricky question, and I don’t have any definite position on it. I think a few people do, but I’m not sure that we really know. Could they have been simultaneous? Well, they were very close. I think that’s the problem.

And that’s the one that the green is the one that creates the flap. Yeah, that creates the temple flap that we see in the autopsy photograph. And, of course, the bullet that caused that is the same bullet that blew out the back of the head and caused the big hole. So that’s not a direct hit? No, the green arrow is a direct hit. The bullet went through the skull and blew out the back of the head.

And the red, the red produced the metallic trail we see on the x rays today. Okay. The red produced a metallic trail, but it was the green that caused both of flap and the blowout at the back of the head, both the temple plaque that was observed at the autopsy and also by daily plaza. Oh, so the green is the temple. Yeah, that’s the temple area. Okay. It also caused damage to the bone inside the skull.

Okay, that’s one extensively in our book. That’s the one above the eye. The radiologist, the diagnostic radiologist hired by the government missed that wound, but Mike Chesser picked it up. Objective evidence of that shot. Not just. Well, the green was the sewer curb, wasn’t it? Shot the green one. I think we can disagree about that. I don’t really know for sure where that temple shot came from. So you can argue for the sewer, you can argue for the site on the overpass where there’s another sewer that you can call through.

Right. I’m open minded about that. That’s not a big deal to me. But we know from the x rays and the photographs and the witnesses that there had to be a shot that went in the Green arrow. So of the green and the which from the Quinchin photograph or drawing, which one is that? Try that again. Whose photograph? From the. Quentin Schwinn. Oh, Quentin Schwinn. That would be the red arrow.

The red arrow. Okay. And of course, we got Malcolm Barrett. We got all the. He obviously saw that red arrow. That’s what he’s pointing at. And so did Charles Crenshaw, the physician who was there in Parkland. Yeah, leave that one up for a little while. This one, the one before that. Well, we rolled back there. You must mean the one where they’re all showing where the blowout was.

Yeah, that was the Green arrow. That’s from the Green arrow, right. Very interesting. Very interesting. The last thing I wanted to mention here, now, looking at the Z film, and you’ve got frame 312. 311. 312, where JFK’s head is tilted at a specific angle, 60 degrees. Okay. If anything that would hit him in the head at that point, in my view, would have to come from a lower angle.

Like Kellerman said, an upshot into the vehicle. And Dr. Mantic just said that, hey, it could be the storm. It could be. Or there’s another one down the way, which is true. It could have been that one. I agree 100%. In fact, I’m going to look up the plans that I have and plot something from there. Now, the tilt of the head, I think, is very important. Exactly.

And you got 312. 311. And it’s very specific tilt towards the front forward. And I’ve measured it out. It’s a 60 degree tilt. Now, that would place that shot, as far as I’m concerned, from a lower plane to traverse the area and come out the back of the head the way that we have been talking about here tonight. Meaning you think that came from the curbside super. And I’m not.

It’s not just many before me. Penn Jones, Jim Garrison, Vincent Solandria, John judge Tim, Tom Wilson, the guy that did the member of the men who killed Kennedy, et cetera, et cetera, et. Hey, and the blender model and everything else. Yeah, just anything here where there’s a distribution of metallic particles you’re talking about. David, that’s the red arrow. That’s the red. Very good. Very good. Here’s just overall shooting sequence, and you have the replication and, of course, the Harper fragment.

David. David, how could the HSC think they could get away with reconstituting the head and not have not only a fist size, but the whole missing back of the head described in mathematical detail. And Bethesda autopsy report. How do they think they could get away with that? Well, their expert didn’t even know that the back of the head was missing. You’re kidding. Dave, what kind of an. He didn’t know.

They didn’t tell him that. What kind of an expert is that? Well, it was a misinformed expert. That’s easy to get away with things if you leave details like that out. What troubles me, David, is that Cyril was on that panel. I mean, why wouldn’t. Cyril talked endlessly about the magic bullet, but he’s never talked about the hole in the back of the head being covered up by the.

He’s that good at reading x rays. I think he would admit that. Really? Yeah. Oh, fascinating. You mean he might. He might have been duped himself by this report? I think he was partially duped, yes. Then I don’t blame him for it. That was not his expertise. He has. Wonderful. But David, this is after 6 seconds been out. He knows diagrams, he knows there was this big hole in the back of the head.

That just bothers me tremendously, let me say. I’ll leave it at that. But it troubles me. And here, then we get this variation. To me, this is as damning as it gets. And as you know. Yeah. When Larry Sabato came out with nonsense at Uva, because I taught there, I actually published in the Daily Cavalier this image and took him to task. And there we see the skull flap well shown in the diagram.

Here’s that newsweek where they got the limo further down. Not here, but down here. 30ft after the supposed headshot in. What a shot, man. 30ft. I know. Like when Jim and Jesse Ventura went to test that out. Remember Jim shooting from the rig, that platform and running that out in Ventura county? Yeah, that was so much fun. What happened? One hit in three repetitions with a immobile target because it was three bales of hay.

And here you have that above ground, Laurie. And you say this was. That’s the one above. And see, that’s right at the end of the triple overpass. It’s got that cement railing and then from there the rest is picket fence. Right. And if you see there’s some images that show that area has been blacked out or whited out. I saw a picture that Richard Hook showed me one time.

I think I have it somewhere, that the first maybe four or 5ft were left of the cement abutment there, going to the left. That was altered, taken out of that image. And you could go into there and I think you have the next one that shows him inside of there. Those are garrison. I just don’t have it here in this garrison. Those are Garrison’s investigators. Those are pictures from garrison.

So if you want work, they were doing good work. Yeah. They were on the right track. The thing is that he would send people to Dallas and nobody would talk to them, of course. Yeah. And here’s a shot from inside. Then you have inside where the limit would look like, across the street. Yeah. Look at all the space there that had already been filled out. Already filled up.

Look at the levels of. Right, right. Very interesting. Wow. Well, David, somehow it’s all come together. I think your books are going to have tremendous impact. Selling like hotcakes like that is just phenomenal. So I think this is going to represent a major breakthrough. Yeah, it’s overdue. Our citizens should know what happened. Having a more popular, reader friendly version was indispensable. So how do we get an autographed copy, Dr.

Mantis? Well, that’s very easy. You send me a book plate, which is just a simple piece of paper. I will sign it and you stick it inside the book. How about that? But if I buy the book and send it to you and you send it back, you can do that, too. It’s just more tedious for you. Okay. Larry. Larry, further questions for David on it’s been a fantastic evening, gentlemen.

Thank you. Thank you very much for inviting me. It’s been an honor. Yeah. Thanks for joining us. Everyone there, Gary and Larry? Yeah, Jerry. Are going to be making quite a few rounds, I predict. Well, let’s hope so. It would be good for the country. We don’t need this personally, but I think the country does. Yes, I couldn’t agree more. I guess we’ll call it on that. Our hourglass is gone, and we’ve got another show in the back.

This has been a new JFK. Thank you, gentlemen. We’ll see you next week. Dr. Mantic, Larry Rivera, Jim Fetcher and myself, Gary King. Thanks for joining us. Yes, good night. .

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