➡ The Dr. Steve Turley article discusses the potential impact of tariffs on global trade and travel. It suggests that tariffs could lead to trade wars and increased prices for consumers, but could also protect American industries. The article also mentions a strategy to avoid tariffs by shipping parts to Mexico before importing them to the U.S. Finally, it introduces a travel expert who offers advice on how to navigate potential price hikes in travel due to these tariffs.

➡ The article discusses the impact of immigration policies and tariffs on the U.S. tourism industry. It suggests that stricter immigration rules may deter foreign tourists, leading to job losses and higher prices in the hospitality sector. The article also mentions that tariffs on China could increase the cost of air travel, as they make aircraft parts more expensive. However, it also suggests that domestic travel might not be significantly affected due to lower fuel costs and potential wage growth.

➡ Roger, a travel expert, teaches people how to use frequent flyer points to travel for free or at a reduced cost. He offers strategies to individuals and businesses, showing them how to spend wisely and leverage their spending to earn points for travel. His company, Miles Mentor, provides training on how to navigate the system, book tickets, and make the most of airline services. This method allows people to avoid high ticket prices and travel more frequently.

And of course it’s a bargaining chip. We can’t sell a Ford or GM in Europe. You go to Europe, you can’t sell a Ford or GM. Why? There’s a hundred percent tariffs. How about in Japan? A hundred percent tariffs. So do you think if we said we’re going to tariff you the way you tariff us, do you think they’re going to allow Mercedes and all these Japanese companies and Porsches and BMWs to all of a sudden have hundred percent tariffs in America? Of course not. They’re going to come and negotiate. And their tariffs are going to come down and finally Ford and General Motors are going to be able to sell in these places.

How’s that sound? Of course they’re going to come down. Of course this is just negotiating. It absolutely makes sense. If you do it strategically, if it’s across the board, it creates a real problem. And the question is whether you believe the president is going to do it strategically or across the board. He keeps saying it across the board. Well, when you’re running for office, you make broad statements so people understand you. Tariffs are an amazing tool by the president to use. They’re an amazing tool. But he understands don’t tariff stuff we don’t make, right? If we don’t make it and you want to buy it, I don’t want to put the price up there.

It’s pointless. But use tariffs to build in America. If we want to make it in America, tariff it. Or if we’re competing with a tariff it. But you got to remember, we need to protect the American worker. Finally, someone’s going to protect the American worker. And Donald Trump is here to protect the American worker. We make a lot of money in tariffs. Hey, gang, it’s me, Dr. Steve. Well, we’re a couple of weeks on from the MAGA landslide. And as we enter into the golden era, as Trump would call it, many economists are saying that, well, hold on now.

It actually might not be a perfectly smooth journey. And these aren’t the strange economists who, for whatever reason, seem to think Harris’s proposed plan, whatever it was, would be a good idea. No, many are saying, as Trump proposes, America first policies, that for a short term, there will possibly be strong trade tensions. That’s nothing new. But what is new is how these global trade conflicts will shake out and affect the consumer, especially when it comes to your travel. And the reason for that is actually rather simple. Where do you think all the airlines and manufacturers import their products from? I’m sure at least some of you guessed it, right? From China, Boeing, Airbus, all of them.

So with terrorists being applied to these products and before the MAGA administration facilitates the moving of manufacturing jobs back to the United States, what’s going to happen to the price of airfares and travel? Looks like it’s just, it’s going to skyrocket. The most insidious part about all of this is actually China plans to sort of skirt the terrorists. They want to ship the parts first to Mexico and then import them to the United States circumventing the terrorists. Will this keep the cost of airfares down? Absolutely not. In fact, watch the airlines jack up the prices and then turn around and blame the terrorists that aren’t even being paid.

It’s an elitist cash grab of huge proportions. So what exactly can you do if you simply just want to travel in the next couple of years? Well, joining me today is my favorite travel expert, Roger Kleckner. Now, listen, Roger’s company, Miles Mentor, these guys are amazing because they have helped thousands of people travel the world. Yeah, I kid you not for free. He has systems training and education to help you avoid the elitist price hikes in the coming years and maybe even travel more than you ever have. And for a fraction of the price, pretty incredible stuff.

Actually, just personally, Roger saved me and the Turley Talks company over $60,000 this year alone in travel. Remember that cruise we went on in August? That was Roger helping us out. I kid you not $60,000. We couldn’t have done it without him. So you need to chat with him and his team as always scan the QR code or click on the link in the description below. But more about that later. Let’s talk about what’s going on here with possible price hikes and travel. Roger, welcome back. Great to see you again. Thanks, Steve. Nice to be on the show again.

Well, it’s great to have you. And I appreciate your kind of my go to guy with regard to traveling. So give us your vantage point of what’s really going on here in light of all the new tariffs that look like they’re going to be coming down the pike. How is it going to affect travel? You’re on the front lines of this. So what should we be looking out for when it comes to travel? Okay, well, first, I just want to say since the election in the travel industry, it’s it’s like an earthquake. Wow. And and as you know, between now and inauguration day, there is so much going on.

And so so a lot of people keeping their information kind of close to the chest. But we can also see, you know, how things are going to be panning out or what are the priorities of the Trump administration. So first, I want to tell you, I’m not a political guy, you know, I just know a lot about travel. And so so I’m just going to do like a download of some information about travel about what your listeners can expect, what kind of coming into this new administration, because it’s going to be a lot different than what the Trump with Biden administration tried to do as well.

So so one, I also want to say is is, you know, the the financial markets in New York, they didn’t really care who won the election. They all you know, because they kind of factor all this stuff in all they care about are corporate earnings and corporate profits, right? So they kind of factor this all in. And so so for them, it was kind of irrelevant who got it in because because they’re on a completely different agenda. And so so the market spike that happened on November 6, the 1400 points that went up was a reflection of the results of the election.

So that kind of like rearranged all the chess pieces on the chessboard. Right. So so from what I can tell, as we’re going into this is the Trump priorities are going to focus on two particular things. The first ones are tariffs. But we’ve heard a lot about tariffs on the Stumps speeches that Trump’s been giving. And the other key issue is immigration, illegal immigration and migration issues. So for these two things are actually kind of really related to the travel industry. And so to be clear, what is a tariff and a tariff is a tax as imposed by one country on imported goods from another country.

Okay, so so think about the United States trying to protect itself against all of our our allies and adversaries around the world. Elon Musk, as you know, already said that these tariffs will create hard times for the US in the short term, because it may raise prices on US consumers. So if Trump does put what he says he does, and I believe we should take him at his word, is a 20% across the board terrace for for products that are coming in the US, except for China, and because they are not a good actor, possibly up to 65% tariff against China.

And you but you also and I’m going to do positives and negatives here, you can expect these countries to reciprocate in kind or take countermeasures. And then they’ll be engaged in a number of trade wars, as well as anti competitive activities, what they’ve already done. And a lot of people ask me, when can they expect this to already happen? Well, actually, it started on on June or on November 6. So one of the key examples is is how the markets are reacting and how the globe is reacting to the Trump election is after November 5, the euro started dropping dramatically against the US dollar.

Yeah, it’s been plummeting. Okay. And it’s like in this hurts us exports or imports into the US. So you’re kind of countering that they’re going to hit with a with a tariff with a tariff. And I actually expect the euro to drop below the dollar by January 20. So this will be the first time that the dollar will be cheaper than the euro in over 20 years. And this is going to be very good for us consumers that want to travel internationally or travel abroad. I’m just I’m my son’s in Europe right now. I’m thinking, Hmm, his dollar is going a long way now, as I said, it’s going to get better.

And so I see that as is that there was a time to travel, you know, picking 2025 in to travel internationally, it’s going to be a good thing. So so I want there’s some positive things and negative things on the negative. No, no, you go right ahead. Because I was going to be very curious about it. Well, yeah, go do the negative. But I was also wanting to bring in the immigration and as well. Well, the immigration is coming. So so for the foreigners trying to come to the US, this is the flip side of the coin.

Okay, it’s going to make travel to the US a lot more expensive. And also, Europe in particular have fears to come to the US because of our immigration policy. So so there’s legal immigration, there’s illegal immigration. But for Europeans, they’re kind of sensitive about this. And so one sense is, they don’t like to be put in US databases. And so they think that we’re a nation that not is not necessarily foreign or friendly. And so the last time under the first administration, global tourism went up that year, but but the tourism by foreigners to the US went down about 4.6%.

And the US lost 4.6 billion dollars in foreign spending in the US and 40,000 tourist jobs in the US were lost, because foreigners didn’t come here. Wow. So that’s fascinating. On immigration, okay, there was a chill in the air for everyone with either temporary or no status, you know, to be in the US. And a lot of those people are involved with tourism. And so a lot of those are janitorial services, they work in restaurants, they’re they’re the hotel cleaning service, they’re in construction, they’re in landscaping. Okay, this is put a chill for all these other people.

And so they’re either want to self deport, or otherwise, they’re fearful about going to work because they think they may be deported. So so it’s going to be harder for US companies to fill those particular jobs. So if you’re traveling, if you’re traveling domestically, or internationally coming to the US, that there’s going to be higher prices for your hotels, higher prices for your restaurants, the restaurant hours, may be shorter than the amount of service may be better, because these workers kind of filled in that particular gap. So, so the other thing is, is that a lot of people, including the airlines expected that, that this is going to be a boon.

Donald Trump said he’s going to drill, drill, drill, he’s going to increase energy inside. And the other thing is, is Biden’s Green New Deal. Okay, so the Green New Deal is going to be chill, right? It’s flat out, it’s gone. So so so then the airline stocks all in up, because they said, all the regulations on the airlines, what they’re going to do is, is they’re gonna, you know, they said that, you know, it’s going to get off the backs of the airlines, and they can go back to traditional fuels, and it’s going to be cheaper.

And everybody’s proceeding that airfare is going to get cheaper. Okay, well, that actually doesn’t happen. Yes, fuel costs are going to go down in the in the cost of jet fuel is going to go down. But I don’t think it’s going to be any cheaper, because the corporate corporations, what they’re going to do is, they’re there, because they’re going to use the terrorists as an excuse to keep prices high. And then they’re going to give the revenue to their shareholders of the airlines. So also, on January, after January 5, the airlines actually made, you know, their stocks are all up.

So so the airlines are happy about this. And they also, I think you have a boogeyman to actually say, to keep their prices higher, and it’s actually going to hurt the American consumer. The last time you’re on, Roger, you did you did talk about just how I mean, yeah, what’s I know, I want to be, I want to be sympathetic. I want to find a good word. But shall we say optimistic in their pricing, the way airlines will start off the tickets price, we often think that we buy early, we’re getting the best price. But you pointed out, like tickets change like 60, the price change like 60 times over the course of when they’re they’re, they’ve their first made public.

Is that did I remember that correctly? That is correct. On average, 62 times it changes. And then also this, so I want to make sure that this gives value for your listeners. So so after the Christmas holidays, this is when everybody starts to travel their summer trip. That’s absolutely the worst time to travel to to try to book your your summer holiday trips, because the airlines know that that’s the time you look for your trip. And that’s the time that actually prices are its highest. Is it’s so counterintuitive to what we’re thinking. That’s so good.

You say that. Yeah, so so the other thing you brought up is about our good, good friends in China. And and I’m not a fan of China. And China is a predator nation. And and China has a history of manipulating markets for their own benefit over our US industries, which includes travel. This drives up US costs for US companies. And also they put us workers at a disadvantage for emerging businesses. So it’s your view that China definitely intentionally makes travel harder and will in the short term. I I can tell you more about that. So first, you know, I, you know, first, the two trumps already hit China with with two tariffs already.

And it’s primarily in in aluminum and steel. Well, what are airplanes made out of? Right. Right. You know, and so so what China has also done was is because to to give the US manufacturer specifically Boeing access to the Chinese market, they made a Faustian deal with the Chinese. And they said, like, look, we’ll give you access to the Chinese market only if we control the parts that go into your airplane that are manufactured in the US, and they must come from China’s to be part of the distribution. So so they said, you get access to our markets, but we sell you the parts.

Okay, well, well, then they drove out the other US manufacturers. And so so now Boeing is completely dedicated on the Chinese market for the parts to build their aircraft. Now they’re going to get hit with a 65% tariff, and it’s going to make the price of Boeing aircraft much more expensive than Airbus. And so 70% of Boeing’s sales are outside of the United States. So so basically, China screwed the Boeing and they’re kind of like together, their marketplace. And so just two days ago, you know, Boeing is already reacting to that they laid off 17,000 workers.

Wow. Wow. So 17,000 workers that were voters in the unions that were on the aircraft, they struck a deal, they got them back to work, then they laid them all off. Wow. So what can people do? I mean, it sounds like the price. I’m just hearing prices going up and up and up. What can people do? They still want to travel, see the world in the next couple of years. So there there’s there’s two different there’s domestic travel. Okay, and we have to look at these in two different buckets. Okay, and the first bucket is is is your listeners that that are planning to take holidays and travel either by car or by train or by plane.

And then with the lower energy costs, which are going to be part of the elimination of the Green New Deal sort of thing, it is going to make a fuel cost cheaper in the US. So so actually, and also the the the economic messages that Trump’s putting forward is he wants to put more money into workers pockets. So actually, wage growth should actually be up. Fuel costs should be down. So domestically, I really don’t see a change in the airfares than what you’re currently paying now. But there is some deregulation of the airlines. And so, you know, Trump is more merger friendly.

So you’re going to see some mergers in the airlines, which is going to decrease competition. But also, they’re gonna have more of a free hand for the pricing. There’s going to be there. There’s going to be less incentive for them to hold prices down because they have less market. So one, I’m actually optimistic about domestic travel. And the second thing is, is that for international travel, it’s a good time for European for United States people to go abroad, because the dollar is going to be strong. The airfarers are going to be about the same. But then the price of the aircrafts are going to go up.

And I believe that the airlines are going to increase the prices of different travel, you know, because of the of the tariffs that are going to be placed upon them. The second thing is, is that the planes that are going to be used, there’s a lot of people that have a lot of orders in to get brand new planes, which are much more fuel efficient. With the 65% tariff on China, that means that it’s going to be much more expensive to buy a new plane. So what they’re going to do is they’re going to just buy the parts, possibly from third party countries like Mexico to bring in different areas to try to get different parts to keep their planes going.

So I believe that they’re actually going to put off the purchase of more planes, and they’re just going to fix up their planes for the next three or four years, because it’s cheaper, and then they’re going to give the money directly to China. Hmm. How, how does how do points come into this? This is, I have to say, when we first started working with you, this is the part I didn’t quite understand. But you use points and various strategies to help liberate people from from relying on the status quo and the economy in order to travel.

Yes. Well, one is everything I just spoke about are all for the people out there, your listeners that actually paid for travel. Now, for me, I’ve never paid for an airplane ticket in the last 10 years. And I’ve traveled the world, I’m in the 65 countries, I travel internationally, and I travel in business class, and I travel for free. And the next question is, you’re going to ask me is, Roger, how do you do that? How do you travel for free? Yeah, it’s the secret. Teach us, teach us. Yeah, and that is, is you have a strategy.

And the strategy is is from spending to get frequent flyer points that actually use those frequent flyer points instead of cash. So you get outsized value of your money. I mean, some of these business class tickets, about six or seven or $8,000 a ticket, you know, and if you can pay for that by a fraction, or even at the economy ticket price, especially everybody in here knows how much ticket prices gone up over the last few years. And so one sense is, I don’t pay that because you pay in points. So points is a much better way to do this.

So the training and the the the classwork or the instruction that we have is to teach people about the system and about how airlines work. And it’s like when to book your tickets and also how to book your tickets. And also, how do you do like a plan B flight and work for your plan a flight that you want to fly. So one sense is, you know, we’re on your side. You know, we want to have the airlines, you know, to make sure that you get the best experience possible, or even fly a little bit better.

So so so we teach people that are in our training courses. And this is for everybody, right? This isn’t just like business travel or anything like this. Anybody can can benefit from your mentorship here. Steve, that’s a great question. Because actually, we have two tracks. Okay, the first track are primarily for individuals. So so it’s like an individual, which is a person that they just said, you know, and people say is like, Do I have to be a millionaire to do this? And we’re saying like, Look, you know, you’re just not spending your your your what you’re currently spending your money on wisely.

And so so what we say is like, here’s having a more strategic way of spending the spending that you’re currently doing to achieve your travel goals. Okay, the other group of businesses, okay, the businesses are are we have a whole area about how to leverage your business to let your business generate points for you and your family. So I know you have a lot of listeners out there that are small business owners. And I’m telling you that they’re not leveraging their businesses enough to achieve travel for free. And we show them how to do that in our training videos.

Well, that’s what we found out when we had our crews and I should tell you guys that Roger was very gracious to work with my wife a bit to help secure a ticket from my daughter her first time her first solo trip to Japan, which they did. My wife was incredibly grateful for Roger’s mentorship. This is wonderful stuff. I mean, what we try to do here on this channel is to show you what’s going on in the world, the economy, the politics and the like, and then position yourself in the most optimal way so that you can, you don’t survive, you flourish.

So Roger’s company, Miles mentor, they’ve helped thousands of people, myself included, travel the world. And here’s the key for free. This is that’s our dramatic reduction in price. He has he has systems training education to help you avoid the elitist price hikes in the coming years and maybe even travel more than you ever have before the fraction of the price. It’s a win-win. So scan the QR code, click the link description and learn how Roger can help you travel more frequently and for free. Roger, thanks so much for being with us. Great to see you again.

Thanks for the time. I thought this was an opportune time because there is a lot of change and it’s like all I want to do is get this information out to your listeners. And you did. It’s awesome. And you’re exactly right. We’ve got two months before the big days where let’s position ourselves optimally to enter into the golden age. Thank you, Roger. Thank you very much. I’ll see you then. [tr:trw].

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