➡ The hantavirus strain from the Andes has spread from rural areas in Argentina to several countries, raising concerns about potential person-to-person transmission. This strain has a high fatality rate, making it a serious threat if it becomes a pandemic. However, it’s not traditionally efficient at spreading from person to person. Experts advise monitoring the situation closely, as symptoms can range from mild to severe and the incubation period is quite long.
➡ The French government is investigating a potential case of illness in a citizen who was an airline passenger. The symptoms are common and could be mistaken for the flu. There’s a question about whether the disease could be spread by touching surfaces the sick person touched, but this is not confirmed. The situation is being closely monitored, and people who were in contact with the potential patient are being traced and monitored for symptoms.
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This is the first time the hantavirus in the Andes strain has moved from the small rural areas in Argentina. And now we have cases from a dozen different countries. Canada, Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand. If we start seeing clusters in those countries, it’s starting to get outside the box and it’s starting to move. You really don’t want these viruses to just have the opportunity to replicate again and again and again because that just opens the door for potential changes with this strain. There’s mounting evidence to point that this is person to person transmission, but it is serious.

We’re talking 25% on up to our 40% fatality rate. If this were a pathogen that became a pandemic, it would be a civilization killer. World War Three is already happening. This is a house of cards and it is in the process of collapsing right now. You’re going to see an economic crash the likes of which we’ve never seen. Hi folks, Canadian prepper here. Today I’m joined Once Again by Dr. Robert Nisgoda, an epidemiologist, professor and public health Expert with a PhD and a Master in public health. With new concerns around hantavirus and questions about whether or not this is an overhyped scare or something worth watching, I thought I would bring Dr.

Nisgoda back on here to help us separate the real epidemiology risk factors from the media driven fear. Dr. Nisgoda, thanks for coming out. Well, thanks for having me. So can you tell us a little bit about this hantavirus? I haven’t been paying a lot of attention to it, but it seems like somebody somewhere thinks it’s something worth paying attention to. Can you tell us what exactly it is? And then we’ll get into the, the minutia and the, the deeper underlying questions. Okay, first I’d say, you know, this is a serious situation, but I don’t think we’re quite at the oh crap moment.

Right. So I think it does require us to kind of watch what’s happening because I think over the next several days and weeks, you know, things will be unfolding. We just need to pay attention. There are several strains of huntovirus on most continents. They are, you know, endemic in many places. Reservoir is, you know, different types of rodents. Most of the time these zoonotic viruses just are transmitted from the different types of rodents through, you know, feces or urine. It could be from the saliva of the rodents. People get contact either through eating contaminated food or when the excrement and the urine, whenever it gets into dust, it gets dried out.

And people start cleaning up areas where mice have been, these rodents have been, they aerosolize those particles, inhale it and they get exposed that way too. But most of the time it’s just from the rodents and those droppings of humans. And there’s no human to human transmission. Okay. The exception is with this strain. It’s the strain from the Andes called Hantavirus Andes. And it is basically from, I think one of the first identified outbreaks was in 1996. And at that point, you know, since then they were looking at, you know, subsequent outbreaks. It’s only been a handful down in Argentina, but they have been looking at the different outbreaks and you know, there’s mounting evidence to the point that this is person to person transmission with this particular strain.

So what’s happening on the cruise ship just kind of adds to that evidence that, you know, there is some, it seems like there’s some person to person transmission going on here. Signs and symptoms, Fever, fatigue, muscle aches, headaches, chills, dizziness, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. With symptoms initially being mild and then increasing into potentially more severe systems getting symptoms, getting into the respiratory tract. Just a question for you. They call that shedding when the virus tries to infect somebody else. Is there a lot of shedding that happens here? And what about the incubation period? Incubation period is Fairly large, so one week to eight weeks, some people say one to six, but the median is 18 days, which means most cases are going to be around the 18 day point and probably know within a few days.

So they, they don’t use average, it’s median because averages are kind of prone to being influenced by extreme values. So I think that what we can, you know, usually expect is that most cases can be around that 18 day period. Right. Depending on different things. If you have a really large infective dose, that’s probably going to lower the, the amount of time. If you’re an older adult, you have an immunocompromised system, that’s probably going to mean you’re might have a shorter incubation period. Right. Based on what I’ve seen, the person is communicable, meaning they’re able to transmit it from one person to the next when they start showing symptoms.

What was that word you just said? Communicable. Communicable. Okay. Yeah. So once you start having symptoms, that’s a point where your body is starting to shed those viruses. Right. And there are some pathogens that you can actually start shedding the virus before you show Symptoms like influenza. In this case, they primarily say that it is once somebody becomes symptomatic, then at that point they’re able to spread from person to person. It seems like the spread is from respiratory droplets. So you could have somebody that is in close contact with the first two cases you have husband and wife, they’re in the same cabin.

They’re probably, you know, lots of contact in terms of, you know, breathing, talking, that sort of thing. So, you know, that type of contact is what they usually say that is going to open the door for transmission for personal person. However, if you look at what the news is saying, they have a flight attendant, attendant that has been identified. And I just read up that she actually tested a negative for hantavirus. Doesn’t necessarily mean she’s out of the woods yet because, you know, there have been false positives or false negatives in the past. So they’re probably going to watch her cond and if she starts to recover, great.

But if she starts to deteriorate, I imagine they’ll probably do some more testing on her. So how long before, like when a person gets it, how long does it have to be in your system before you’re going to test positive for it? That’s something that is more like a clinician laboratory. Yeah. So typically, once you start showing those signs and symptoms, your body’s going to start producing an immune reaction. Right. So they could start testing for IGM or igg. IGG is typically an antibody that shows up in later infections. But Those acute infections, IgG or IgM will be present and they test for those.

They’re probably tested using the PCR test, which I know a lot of people don’t trust those, but they are useful. They are, you know, they will identify the pathogens there. Okay. And I will say the caveat to that is a lot of people, they just look at the PCR test, they say, oh, it’s a case or it’s not a case. Well, you should look at the PCR test as well as signs and symptoms. So if you have a positive PCR but there’s no signs and symptoms, I kind of say, well, is that a true case or not? Right.

So, but if they have the signs and symptoms and it looks like hantavirus and it’s a positive pcr, I would say with confidence that that would be a true case. Right. So you got to look at the whole picture when you start diagnosing people and having that case definition to say, this is a case, a confirmed case, this is a problem Case, this is a suspect case. Make sure you kind of go by that. You just can’t willy nilly if somebody has symptoms. Oh, that’s whatever. You have to think about exposure and other things to kind of put them in those different case categories.

But yeah, so usually, you know, unfortunately this has a fairly high case fatality rate. We’re talking anywhere from. I’ve seen 25% on up to 40% being cited. So it is serious. I mean, this is. If this were a pathogen that became more effective going person to person and it became a pandemic and you had a case fatality rate that high, it would be civilization killer. It would be not. It’d be really, really, really, really a bad day. Right. But fortunately what we’ve seen with this is it’s not and traditionally it has not been a very efficient goal from person to person, which is a positive thing.

Right now looking at the, the news, what I’ve seen today is that there have been quite a few interesting things happen. There was a Spanish woman that was confirmed with Hana virus who was on the plane with the ill passenger who was on that, that flight to Johannesburg from the ship. That was one of the early passengers. I think it was the wife. Right. She ended up passing away. But we’ve had a, a Spanish woman being confirmed she was on that flight. So she was sitting. Was she sitting next to the person or. We don’t know.

I don’t know. She was on that flight. And there was a news article from the French government said they had a French national. It’s a suspect case with mild symptoms that was also connected to the airline passenger. They’re doing testing now. So is that just a, is it a case or is it not a case? One of the challenges with this is those early symptoms are fairly genetic. Right. We’re here in Missouri and North America kind of coming out of flu season, but if you had fever, fatigue, muscle aches, headaches, chills, you’d probably think influenza. Right? Just a quick question for you with respect to the shedding.

Sorry to mess with your momentum there, but so this woman who was on the plane, she must have been shedding then in some way. What was her symptoms? And they. And again, this is kind of what I’m just kind of pulling out of all the various different pieces of news from different news articles from the World Health Organization, from different official and unofficial kind of sources. Right. So they said initially she got off the plane with gastrointestinal symptoms and then that was on. So she could have used the Washroom and somebody could have went into the washroom and then touched the surface and acquired it that way.

That would require full mic transmission. And they haven’t necessarily said that that is a way that it’s been transmitted. Right. For my transmission is when you shedding those viral particles, whether the respiratory droplets or in this case feces potentially you have those contaminated surfaces, somebody comes along, they touch that and then they basically self inoculate by touching their mucous membranes around their eyes and their nose and their mouth. Right. So or basically nose or mouth with this one so that you could self inoculate that way. Theoretically. I don’t know if they actually confirm that as a possibility.

I’m probably guessing that that is going to be a fairly low possibility because if it was fomite transmission, you probably have a lot more sick people on that boat right now or that ship. Because fomite transmission is very efficient. We don’t wash our hands. Well, I wash my hands quite a bit. But most people, they don’t wash their hands and they’re touching all these services they eat. They do all kinds of stuff with, with potentially contaminated hands. Right. So I’m guessing fomite transmission is probably not that much of concern. I will say this though. If you are dealing with rodents and they have the contaminated services, you can, you know, self, you know, inoculate that way.

So this is where you get into that situation where theoretically it seems like it should happen. But I don’t think the science is caught up to say, hey, it definitely is a way to transmit this from, you know, a contaminated surface to yourself. It seems like it would. Right. Just theoretically, but I don’t think the evidence is there yet. But I would say that if you do have somebody that is sick, contaminant services would be a concern. They should disinfect and clean and that sort of thing. But I don’t know how efficient that mode of transmission would be.

With hantavirus, something like norovirus, very contagious. That is a very hardy viral particle. It’ll live on those surfaces and it will stick around for weeks. Right. Hantavirus might be something that when it gets on those surfaces, it quickly desiccates so it dries out really quick. It’s not a hardy virus that might live on the surfaces. That’s just my idea. I don’t have any sources to back that up. But I suspect that the reason it’s not so efficient is that there might be. It might not be able to, to live on surfaces and other things. So there’s probably several different things with the virus that limits its efficiency, but to go from person to person.

But right now, thankfully, it appears that it’s not that efficient. And the limited cases we’re seeing is, is a good thing. But there are instant things here that are kind of making me kind of sit up and say, hey, this is something we need to pay attention to. I don’t think we’re at that point where we have to say, oh my goodness, they’re going to start shutting things down. We’re probably several steps away from that. But if we start seeing that, we’re already seeing kind of these people that were on that initial plane from and Johannesburg with that, that second case that passed away, we’re seeing those people.

You start seeing transmission in those communities where these contacts ended up going back home and multiple other passengers from those flights that could indicate that, you know, it’s going to be a really big problem. Now the other thing that’s kind of in our favor is this incubation period, right? With a median incubation period of 18 days, that gives public health investigators to do the contact tracing. And they’re going to be able to identify people enough time, hopefully before they start showing symptoms, they would be able to make that initial contact, have the person monitor their health through the period of the incubation period.

And if they do start showing symptoms, they’d be monitored and they’d be identified quickly and then initiated treatment and isolation, that sort of thing. The concern I have is you, you could potentially have situations where there was some contact that occurred that is problematic. For instance, we had a period of time in this first case when he got sick. He initially started showing symptoms on April 6th. He passed away on the 11th. There’s a five day period there where my question as an epidemiologist would be, you know, what did he do during those days? Initially he’s going to show mild symptoms.

He’s on vacation. He paid, you know, probably quite a bit of money to be on the ship. He’s there to have fun. If he’s up to it, he may go down and have a cup of coffee or meet some friends and have, you know, some sort of contact with people. That would be probably a point of that. Investigations found exactly what contact he had with everybody on that boat and tracking those people down because at that point, with him being symptomatic on those five days on that ship, who do you have contact with? And they need to definitely identify those people because they would be at high risk There was a period of time between when the second case data onset on the 24th, she got on the plane on the 25th.

I’d want to see exactly who had contact with her definitely on that flight and who sat around her, like you were saying. But also what did she do from 24th to the 25th? You’re right. If she went to a public restroom or she was standing in a, or to public transportation, you know, 15, 20, 30 minutes on a bus, that would be, you know, a concern because she would be symptomatic at that time. Right. So there’s lots of different things that, you know, tracking people’s movements to identify who had contact, who didn’t, and then trying to identify those people to make sure they’re not having symptoms and following them through the incubation period, depending on where these people are located.

Some countries have fairly strict and enforceable quarantine rules, other countries do not. So again, we’re at that period of time where a lot of people that are on the boat. We’re not quite at the 18 day period, just quite yet. Right, so. And that’s just an average. Right? Yeah, exactly. So, you know, thankfully nobody on the, the, the ship has right now has symptoms. At least that’s the article I, I just read. But there still have, you know, several weeks here to, you know, continue on. So I think that they’re, from what I’ve been reading is the passenger is going to be quarantined for 45 days.

Okay. So that would be the, you know, three days after that eight week period. Right. So there’s so, so I think that if they’re able to identify the passengers on the airlines and the ship, the, those modes of transportation, passenger manifests, they’ll be able to identify the person where they’re, where they live, have some contact information and they’ll probably be able to find those people fairly quickly, which is a great thing. Right. But then you have to start thinking about if you did have people on that plane that goes back to the 25th, on the 25th, that flight, you could have some people that are showing symptoms right now who may not know they’re on that flight with that ill passenger and they might be showing symptoms, but if they’re mild initially, they may still be going to work, they still may be going to school.

So you have to kind of think about what’s, what might be happening out there that we don’t know about. And this is kind of where we have to, you know, wait, we’re, we’re In a period of time where the incubation period is. We have to kind of watch things at this point because there could people that are exposed and potentially showing symptoms here shortly. Contrary to popular belief in the apocalypse, most people aren’t going to die by the hands of marauders. In fact, you’re probably going to die from disease. This is why you need antibiotics. The problem is getting them requires a prescription.

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Is it possible? Because we’ve seen human to human transmission of this particular virus before. But why are they. I guess the question is why are they talking about it now? What’s different about this? Has it evolved? Is it possible for it to evolve? It’s definitely possible to evolve. This is a RNA virus. So with RNA viruses they tend to, you know, shift and drift a lot more than DNA viruses just because rna, when it replicates, it’s a lot sloppier than DNA. Right. It hasn’t evolved yet. Right. Like so it’s been around for a while and it hasn’t evolved.

So what would have been change now that it would suddenly evolve? Well, it could be that this is just a different environment for it. Right. Because in the past those outbreaks that we had, they were like in smaller communities. I think the three that I saw were in one was in a fairly, well, not a fairly large city, but a decent sized city, about 19,000. The other one, the city was about 1700 population. So in those smaller communities you probably have a densely packed environment. You probably have people that were exposed someplace and then they might have just household connections that might be, you know, having the virus transfer from person to person.

Now we have people on, you know, 100 and some odd passengers with additional crew members. They’re all on a ship, right. So you have smaller cabins, you have people interact with one another in dining facilities, through the hallways, elevators, lots of different places where people can congregate. So it might just be that the environment on the ship is that you have a more densely packed environment where people are able to kind of share their viruses. That’s kind of what we see on cruise ships with norovirus, right. It goes quickly from person to person because of that environment and also the characteristics of the virus.

With this, you know, I’m sure they’re going to be doing some genetic testing on it to see if it has shifted or anything like that. But I haven’t heard any studies yet on that. But that would be the concern is has the virus, you know, this particular strain, is it that much different than what we’ve seen in the past? And if it has been, then that would, if it is something that has shifted and there is these a major change that makes it more efficient to go from person, that would be a significant concern. Because if it is, if it becomes more efficient to go from person to person, you know, in those cases, typically the case fatality rate drops.

But right now at 40% if it dropped down into the single digits, it would still be a nightmare scenario would be bad. Yeah. So yeah, my immediate thought was, okay, if there was such a high virulence, it’s likely not going to spread because it kills the host before it can kind of transmit. And if, if it was seen, if we’ve seen human to human transmission in Argentina before and it didn’t really amount to much, then there’d have to be something, you know, different this time that caused the virus to mutate to make the, the transmission transmissibility easier.

And it may be just, it might just be the environment. Right. So you have, you know, when we look at the, the epipyramid or triangle basically to see how a disease basically transmits dynamics, you look at the agent, host, the environment, right? So the agent necessary, it has its characteristics, right. And it can still remain the same. But if you have a situation where the environment becomes more favorable or the host population is more susceptible, then you can have a disease transmission. So for instance, so you need all three of those to work together for disease transmission to occur.

And in this case it seems like we have a ship with passengers who were probably older adults. So I think the one case was 69. You had people in their 70s. The crew is probably going to be younger. But if you have a large number of older adults, it could be that they might be more susceptible to that respiratory pathogen for a number of reasons. Their immune system might be suppressed, maybe there’s some comorbidities that might lead to more severe disease. So you kind of think all Those. So the virus itself may not have changed. It could just be the environment.

I think we have to wait and see once they start doing more studies on this particular strain to see is there any difference between what we see in the past. And so again, we have to kind of wait, unfortunately, if we put on our tinfoil hats for a second. Back In December of 2024 in Australia, there was a few vials of various types of viruses that went missing. And I believe it was the. I think it was even the Australian prime Minister that came out and gave a statement about it or something. And one of those, of course, was hantavirus.

And then of course, the rumor mill is already swirling about Level 4 lab in Argentina and all this stuff. I mean, is this possibly another Wuhan situation developing here, or do you think it’s just a. A natural thing at this point? I don’t know if, you know, this would not necessarily be the most ideal and efficient way to kind of release a biological agent. Even if it was unintentional, though, like, it could be, you know. Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t know the travel history of that, the initial couple. I don’t know. You’d be getting out into the, the conspiracy theory with that one.

I. I don’t know. I think that at this point, the virus is not showing anything that would make it unexpected. You know, I mean, in terms of what it’s doing. You know, a lot of times when you have a biological agent, it’s going to be either more efficient than what you would expect or it would, it would have more severity or something like that. I think in this case, the, what we’re seeing is typical of a hantavirus. So with COVID for instance, 19, that virus, SARS CoV2, it just appeared. Right. And it was very capable of moving from person to person.

That was very surprising. You know, it was kind of like, you know, where’d this thing come from? Yeah. Usually if you have a virus that is in an animal infects people, it’s not necessarily going to be that efficient. Just, you know, immediately it’s going to have to develop. So kind of what you see with H5N1, you have a virus that infects a couple people and then it kind of, you know, it waxes and wanes. Right. With, with its efficiency. Right. So it’s still out there and it may or may not officially eventually become a pandemic strain, but it’s something that it will.

It’s just probably not just going to suddenly appear to be efficient virus. And I think in this case there’s not that much or probably anything that’s unexpected with this other than the fact that it’s on a cruise ship and it’s, and there have been, it seems like some cases that are connected to that flight. And that’s something that I’m kind of concerned about because studies that I’ve seen looking at measles, which is a lot more efficient spread, as well as TB with people on airlines, there hasn’t been that much transmission or hardly any between the person that was contagious and surrounding passengers or anybody on the plane.

So with having potentially two people or potentially three people that have symptoms on that flight, my question is what exactly happened here? Were these patient or passengers that were sitting close by or do they have some sort of, I guess significant contact with the person? Maybe if she was having difficulty, maybe the flight attendant or other people had assisted her somehow and got real close. I don’t know. So I think that would be the next question of what exactly happened on that plane, where was she sitting and where these other passengers sitting. If we start seeing a lot of people sick on that plane, then I would have to question what did this virus in this case become more efficient somehow? Because right now to have three people on that flight potentially start showing symptoms, that raises a question mark in my mind.

So I don’t even think we’d be having this conversation if it was nothing like the who with the statements seemed to really be reminiscent of what we’ve seen in the early stages of COVID My, my knee jerk reaction to all this was okay, this is another monkeypox, it’s another benign nothing burger. But then I just started seeing the increased amount of attention towards it. And to me, that, I don’t know, my conspiracy brain starts going and I started thinking maybe somebody wants us to, to be paying attention to this because it is that they know it is going to be a problem.

And like you said, that there’s something novel about this perhaps that hasn’t been disclosed yet. I mean, we’re just speculating here. But yeah, I just, my intuition is that maybe there’s something going on here because more often than not this would have already fallen off the media cycle. I think I, and I mean, I still think there’s a high likelihood that could happen. Even Donald Trump’s statements about it were rather muted considering, you know, his whole history with this sort of thing. He said that we hope it’s not a big deal and he was really being kind of ambivalent about whether or not it was a problem, whether or not we’d be able to deal with it.

So it seems like a lot of people seem to think it may be something which is definitely a point of concern. And I think, and I’ve seen this locally when I was working in public health practices, the media latches on the stories because, you know, they’re profit driven, they want viewers, right? So it could be just an instance that they found a story that has captured people’s imagination, right? So they might just be pumping things up because they’re seeing that the viewers want that content. Right. So that could be a possibility. It could be just also the possibility that.

I don’t know. That’s the first thing that I had kind of thought in my mind. It’s just the media is picked up the story, the viewers want more, so they’re giving them more. Right. If it’s something where, you know, it could also be just the, the effort by the government to keep people informed, again, I’m thinking, you know, that government agencies are willing to be benevolent and help people, which is, you know, I think there’s still good people out there that want to do the jobs and communicate what’s happening to people. So being informed. But at the same time, you know, I think it is a concern because it’s something that we need to kind of think about and be, you know, take seriously.

Because this is the first time the Haunter virus, the strain, the Andes strain, that’s able to go from person to person has moved from the small rural areas in Argentina onto a ship that, you know, went on a transatlantic voyage. And now we have cases from many different Western countries or people that were passengers who were on that ship traveling by airline to a dozen different countries. Canada, Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand, St. Kitts and Nevis, Singapore, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Turkey, the United States. So that sounds like the beginning of Apocalypse movie. Yeah, it does.

And so the question would be, you know, what’s going on with this particular virus? You know, so I imagine they’re, you know, they probably have samples that have been sent to laboratories to kind of look at the, you know, the genetics of this to see if it is that different from previous strains. They’re doing a lot of contact tracing. They’re trying to basically, you know, and they. I think they’re doing a pretty good job tracking down people that had been on those airlines, the previous passengers, and seeing if they’re symptomatic. And we’re at that time period where you could have some of these people start to show symptoms.

If this comes from an indigenous community in Argentina, is there something about these viruses that if you expose, like a broader population who’s never had any contact with it, are they more vulnerable? Are they more likely to act as a. I don’t know what the technical term is, but a environment that it could potentially mutate more efficiently. Like, is there a genetic component to this? You have all these, presumably a lot of European people on this, on this cruise ship, they’re being exposed to this virus, which is sort of native to this region. Does that factor in here? You know, I haven’t read any studies looking at the seropositivity of the population in Argentina, those rural areas where this virus is endemic.

There could be certainly something, something to that where. And maybe the population there might come in contact with it more routinely. Therefore they might have some sort of level of immunity to it. But I haven’t seen these mistakes that. Now, if it. I would say the concern would be once you get a virus that starts getting into more people, it’s replicating more, right? So once it starts reproducing itself, going from person to person, there’s always that possibility that it’s going to have some sort of change to it, right? So you really don’t want these viruses to just have the opportunity to replicate again and again and again because that just opens the door for potential changes, right? Because again, it’s rna, it’s sloppy when it reproduces itself, so.

Or within cells, it hijacks the, the cellular structure in order to reproduce itself. But anyway, that, but the idea is once it starts replicating itself, there’s always that possibility that it could have some sort of change to it. And a lot of times the changes that they, that they’ll have within, when they’re reproduced, a lot of those go nowhere. A lot of times it makes them less efficient. But, you know, people win the lottery all the time. They get struck by lightning. It’s a possibility that something, you know, could happen to where you get a change that makes it more efficient, you know, so that would be my concern with the more people that, that are involved with this.

So I’m not sure if you’ve seen the scuttlebutt circulating. It’s kind of went viral today about hantavirus being. I didn’t really give it too much thought, to be brutally honest, but hantavirus as some sort of symptom of COVID or something like that. Did you hear anything about that? No. I mean, I. If you look at the. The symptoms, I mean, a lot of those are line up with COVID Right. So I think a lot of these viruses, whether it’s influenza, you know, Covid, Hantavirus, even Ebola, when, you know, early symptoms, it, you know, they all kind of have those same nondescript kind of things.

Body ache, like. I guess what I’m trying to ask here is that, does Covid have something? Could that have primed people for this in some way, or is there no relationship whatsoever? Yeah, they’re different viruses. I don’t see any kind. I mean, if one thing and just, just in general, if you’re. If you have comorbidities, if you’ve had other infectious diseases and it impacts you, you know, long term, for instance, your immune system is going to take some time to recover. So you could be more susceptible, you know, if you had. If you have cancer. Right.

You’re getting more susceptible to different types of infectious diseases. Right. Because your immune system is trying to battle off that. If you have a respiratory disease and you are exposed to a respiratory pathogen, you know, you’re at higher risk for different complications and more severe disease. Right. So I don’t necessarily know if it’s just because I wouldn’t say, you know, Covid was. I just think in general, if you’re. If your body is trying to battle off some other condition, some, you know, the comorbidity is going to lead to you being more susceptible to something else. That makes perfect sense.

Yeah. So just one last question for you. Probably something we should have talked about first, but what is, like, the difference between hantavirus and a coronavirus? And how does it, like, kill you? How does it, like, what does it do in the body? Yeah, that’s a little bit more towards the virologist type and maybe some clinician, but it is in a separate family of viruses. It is completely different in terms of. You said it’s gastrointestinal. No, the hantavirus is respiratory, but it does have some gastrointestinal symptoms to it. So it’s going to have fever, fatigue, muscle aches, headaches, chills, dizziness.

You also have nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain. And then later on, once, potentially it progresses after about four to 10 days, you could have cough, shortness of breath, and you have fluids building up in your lungs. So that’d be the hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, I think, but also could affect. There’s also, I think, a renal syndrome with that as well. So once you start having those. Those generalized symptoms, if it starts to get more severe, then you’re going to have severe respiratory distress. And, you know, potentially at that point, you’re in definite need of oxygen therapy as well as potentially intubation.

So it works the same sort of way as Covid would to. Yeah, I mean, it, It. It could potentially damage your respiratory system and lead to difficulty breathing and stuff like that. So. Okay, and so what’s your. What’s your prognosis here? Do you think this is. It’s going to be something. Give me a P Doom here, like, of what you think this is gonna amount to? Are we at 10%, 50%? You know, I think it’s on the low end because we got a lot of things going for us. The virus is still seems to be fairly inefficient going from person to person.

If that changes, we have a problem. You know, we should watch for clusters in these secondary cases. Right. So we’ve seen it go from the one case to airline passengers. If we start seeing in those areas like Spain and France, the Netherlands, where you’ve had people that were exposed on the plane, not the ship, and you start seeing clusters in those countries, that’s a big concern because at that point, it’s starting to, you know, it’s starting to get outside the box and it’s starting to move without containment. So now it’s. It’s still. We’re still talking really low numbers, so we’re going to be able to potentially get our hands around those secondary clusters.

But if you see those clusters start going wild with the numbers and cases start going up, then we have a really big problem. But I think right now they’re responding really well. They’re able to track down people based on the ship and the ship manifest and the airline manifest. They’re going to be able to, I think, find the people. But there’s always that possibility that something happens and it gets, you know, out there and their problem. Okay, well, this has been very insightful. I appreciate you coming out today. Hopefully we’re not talking about the same thing next week again, but you never know.

At this day and age, it seems like we’re oscillating between one major global crisis to the next. Where can people find out more information about you? And are you going to be doing more podcasts like this? You know, I’m just open for interviews, but I don’t have any plans to do anything along this line. But, you know, who knows? Yeah, if you want to contact me, I’m open for, you know, good conversations, but. Or any possibilities for research. You may just be a very busy man, but let’s hope we got a little bit more time. Either way, many people seem to think that this sort of thing is inevitable and that is why we’re prepping as we are.

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