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All right, welcome back. And joining us now is Matt Trojuela. He’s a pastor out of Wisconsin, I believe it is. Is that right, Matt? I think that’s right. And I really appreciate what Matt has done and he’s done a great job in terms of making the point. He’s got a book, a very well selling book, and it’s a very quick read and it’s really packed with information. Not that it’s. It’s not dense in that sense, but it is dense in terms of the richness that it conveys in a very small book that’s easy to read. And he talks about it from a Christian perspective and even from a historical perspective.

Even pagan Romans understood what we no longer understand in this country, and that is that there are higher moral laws. And we’ve had this discussion recently about should you follow illegal orders. I don’t know why that’s a controversy, but the fact that it is a controversy shows just how much we need this book from Matt. It’s called the Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate. And how do we control that? We have the people at the top that have gone bad. And you can find that at. Is it defytyrants.com is that the website? Matt, I’m just going from memory here.

I shouldn’t have it in front of me. Okay. Defytyrants.com and so I would highly recommend that you get that book and read it. It’s a small paperback. It’s a great handout to law enforcement and other people. And that’s the way Matt has used it. But I’ve had him on several times. And Ryan, for the love of the road, sent us an email and said, you know, I’ve seen Matt on many times. And then I looked him up, looked up his background and he said, I think it might be interesting if he gave us his testimony. And so Matt, you said you’re willing to do that, let us know.

How did you become a pastor? What was life like for you before you became a pastor? Yeah, let me begin by saying I have a website where I wrote out my testimony what Christ did in my life. I was 17 years old, nearly 18 when it all transpired. But I go into my life early on and the website is How Jesus Changed My Life Calm. And I got that website probably six years ago. You would have thought that URL would have already been taken, but it wasn’t. And so I got it for $2.99. How Jesus changed my life dot com.

And also Pacific Garden Mission has a show Called Unshackled. It’s on in over 50 countries around the world. And they also did a radio dramatization of my conversion to Christ. Wow. And I also have the testimony of my mom. I did a short sermon about my mom. She was the first one in our family to come to Christ. And that’s also at that website. Howjesuschangedmylife.com so I grew up in the city of Detroit, Michigan. I was born in 1960. And while I was living there, a transformation was taking place in the neighborhood. Busing started in 1973, I think it was.

There was all kinds of racial tension within the city. And where I grew up, I was a minority. So very different. I live in a country that the macro culture, I’m in the majority, but where I lived, I was in the minority. And so what ended up happening was as a young man, I got involved in drugs. And I never saw the reason to buy drugs when you could sell them and make a lot more money. I began to deal drugs and then had all of the free drugs you wanted on top of that. And then I got involved more with the bad crowd, you know, stealing cars, robbing people, fighting other gangs, burning down buildings.

These were all things that were part of my life. My dad had left when I was 11 years old. On Christmas Eve, he left my mom. And that had a huge transformation in life at our house. And so I can’t emphasize strongly enough how important it is for men to be in the home, for there to be fathers in the home. It has a huge impact. All the studies that have been done, David, show the negative impact upon sons and daughters when the man is no longer in the home. And. And unfortunately, by time your Average American turns 18 in America, more than half of them aren’t living with their biological mother and their biological father.

That’s how broken down family is in America. Yes. Imprisonment, drug use, crime, all this type of stuff becomes far more prevalent in young men or when there isn’t a father in the home. And as I said, every statistic proves that and was true in my life. And so I was living that life, and all of a sudden my mom threw me out of the house when I was 14 for dealing dope. And I went to live with my dad. He still lived in Detroit also and didn’t have anywhere else to go. And he let me stay there for six months.

And then after six months, he threw me out of his house. So I wasn’t doing good there. And so I decided, I’m gonna go back and see if my mom will take me in. And I remember we hadn’t seen each other during that six months while I live with my dad. And I remember standing outside her home, and I was just a punk, you know? And I was thinking, man, you gotta go in here and put up with her mouth and all this. And I didn’t really want to knock on the door, but I didn’t have anywhere else to go.

I’m 15 now. And so I finally walked up and I knocked on the door, and my mom opened it, and she actually smiled when she saw me and was so surprised. She said, matt, come on in. I got to tell you what happened to me. And I was like, wow. Okay. So I came in, I sat down on the couch, and she started sharing with me how Jesus has come into her life, forgiven of all her sins, how she’s flushed all her pills down the toilet, and she’s a new creature in Christ. And I sat there and looked at my mom, and I was like, I knew something.

This was not the same woman I knew six months earlier. Something dramatic had definitely taken place in her life. Understand, my mom was always on psych drugs after the divorce four years earlier. It was such a huge impact on her, David, that she had a nervous breakdown and ended up in a psych ward for four months. Our grandparents actually came over and took care of us at the house while she was in the hospital. Wow. And she tried all kinds of things after that to find peace, to find happiness. She tried silva mind control. She tried men, you know, tried everything that the world tells you to find fulfillment in and peace and those types of things.

And never. And so she was on these psych dregs to control her mood swings. Well, lo and behold, after I had left, she found out that my godmother. I was raised Catholic. My godmother, who was an alcoholic and had ruined her life, was put into a mental hospital. Three women came in, prayed over her, and God restored her mind, and she submitted her life to Christ and was radically transformed. So this news is all going around in the. In the family. That veil that was the name of my godmother has radically changed her life. And she isn’t drinking anymore and she’s out of the mental hospital.

So my mom calls her up and wants to meet with her, because my mom’s life is all messed up. So whatever happened to you, I want that to happen to me. Yeah. And my mom told me as I sat there on the couch that Val came over and they met at the dining room Table. And she asked her point blank, she said, how did you change? Who’s your counselor? Because my mom was always going to this counselor and another counselor and another counselor. And my godmother didn’t want to tell my mom that it was Jesus who changed her life, because she had been telling everybody that since she got out of the mental hospital.

And they were all like, okay, you know, well, that’s good for you. You needed that, you know, and things like that. So she didn’t want to tell my. Because of the negative response and kind of mocking response she had gotten from various people. But my mom kept begging her and saying, who’s your. Come on, seriously, who’s your counselor? And finally she just looked at my mom and said, there is no counselor in human form, Annie. Jesus Christ has radically transformed my life. And he’s healed me. He’s forgiven me of my sins. Radically transformed my life. And my mom said.

She sat there and she was just like. I looked at her and I said, you’re joking. My godmother said, I’m not joking. And so she took my mom. I don’t know if you remember back then, David, there was a huge revival taking place. A lot of Roman Catholics were being converted to Christ. There was the Catholic Charismatic Movement. She took my mom to that. And my mom was totally turned off by it. But she went back a second time, and she was completely transformed by the power of God and had become a new Christian. Flushed all her pills down the toilet and was beginning this walk with the Lord.

So she was the first one in our family to come to Christ. And when I sat there and I listened to all this from her, and she let me come back in her home, lo and behold, she gave me a book to read. She said, I want you to read this book. It’s called the Cross and the Switchblade by David Wilkerson, who, of course, was the man who started Teen Challenge, which is an international organization meant to help young people who were caught up in gangs and drugs. Yes. And he was a country preacher from Pennsylvania.

God called him to New York City, and he went and preached amongst the gangs. Nikki Cruz was his first convert. Huge transformation. So I started reading this book, right? The Cross and the switchblade. First 40, 50 pages. A lot of gang stuff. Okay. That holds my interest. And more of this Jesus stuff kept coming in, and I was just like, nah. So I threw the book aside after 40, 50 pages. So now another two and a half years go by. Matt Chuela keeps living in rebellion to God. My Life keeps going down like this. And I could tell you 100 stories.

And I have some of them in that website where I share my story. How jesuschangedmylife.com but lo and behold, I ended up getting arrested for. And I got put into the county jail because they decided, even though I was a minor, 17 years old, they were going to try me as an adult because of the seriousness of the crime. And so I went in and over the weekend, I got stuck in a holding cell with two black guys. One was 40 something. He was in there for child molesting. The other guy was 19. He was in there for armed robbery.

I was 17. All three of us knew a little bit about God. The old guy was raised in a Christian home. The young guy, his dad was actually a deacon in a Baptist church. And of course, my mom had come to know Christ. If I could ever replay those videos, like, when we get to heaven, David, I’d love to see three dumb pagans talking about God. And I don’t know where they were at, but I had a serious interest. I saw my life was in utter ruin. And so, lo and behold, I spent those two days with them talking about.

We all talked about God almost the whole time. Kind of reminds me, Matt, you know, we’re talking about. Kind of reminds me of the story about, you know, a blind man and you sitting next to an elephant and he’s like feeling around and trying to describe what this thing is that he’s never seen before. Yeah, it’s got this really little trunk, but, yeah, that’s kind of what it was like, I guess. So the elephant in the room, right? Absolutely. Yeah. The elephant in the room was Christ. Absolutely. Yeah. Sorry. So I was going through withdrawal. I was all messed up on drugs.

And we happened to be right where they had service. We couldn’t go to it. There was a guy in a suit who came by. And the one guy asked him for something to read. Of course, he brought us all Bibles. When I read the Bible, David, I didn’t feel any pain or suffering from the withdrawal I was going through. When I set the Bible down after a half hour, I’d start feeling all the illness and sickness again. So finally, on Monday, I get taken to the cell block. There’s nine guys to each cell. And I walk in and this guy walks up to me and he says, we have two rules in this cell.

There’s no fights. And if you start a fight, number two, if you start a fight, we all jump on you. And I looked around the room. And I was the smallest guy there. And I looked at him and I said, I like these rules. And he showed me where my bunk was. So I went and climbed up on it. And there’s a cement wall with a. Oh, a shelf, a metal shelf on it. And there’s one book sitting on it. And it was the Cross and the Switchblade by David Wilkerson. So here two and a half years have gone by.

And I picked that book up. I spent the next three days finishing the book, reading it. I had just put it down two minutes earlier. And my probation officer comes in. She takes me out in this side room to meet with me. She goes, yeah, this is the sentence you’re looking at. And we’re gonna try to get you into a live in drug rehab program for a year to begin with all these drugs. And she goes, the program that we’re looking to get you into is called Teen Challenge. So I had just put the book down.

That was the story about how this organization started. Yeah. And now here’s this lady, my probation officer, saying, we’re gonna try to get Teen Challenge. And that’s exactly what happened. I ended up in Teen Challenge. The courts put me there. I was sentenced to three years. I had to spend the first year in a drug rehab program. Move over here because the sun’s moving. And so I went to church the first Sunday after I was taken. There was an assembly of God church called Brightmoor Tabernacle on the west side of Detroit. So when I walked in, there’s probably a thousand people there.

And people are walking up to me saying how glad they are to see me. And I could tell they actually were glad to see me. It wasn’t like they were glad to see me just because I had a joint to smoke or something like that. Yeah, no, they were glad to see me because I was there. So then we walk into the sanctuary and everyone’s talking, which for me was odd because being raised Catholic, it’s like, shh, pin drop. Nobody ever says anything. And it’s quiet. And I was looking around thinking, these people all act like they’re getting ready to see a movie or something.

And then a lady came out and she sat down at the piano and started playing. And people began to worship the Lord. And they weren’t mumbling under their breath like I was used to when I was a kid at the Catholics. They were actually worshiping him with their heart. You could tell they really believe in him. They love him. It was astounding. And during the first Worship song as they’re worshiping. All of a sudden, I began to feel odd inside, David. And I thought, like, I was going to cry. I didn’t want anyone to see that.

So I sat down in my pew and I put my face into my hands. And for the first time in my life, I sat there and I felt really bad for all the sins I had committed, all the bad things I had done. And what it was was the Holy Spirit convicting me of my sin, showing me that I was a sinner in need of a savior, namely Jesus Christ. And so while I’m being convicted of my sin, at the exact same time, I’m tasting His love and his holiness, and I’m astounded. God actually loves me.

I didn’t even love myself. I didn’t even think my mother loved me. God loves me. I remember that being the overriding thing. I sat in that pew with my face in my hands for an hour and a half and wept the entire time. I remember I looked up one time and people were just staring at me like, are you okay? And at the end, they had an altar call and they invited people to come up if they wanted to give their life to Christ. I didn’t even go up. I already knew he had changed me, radically transformed me by the power of His Holy Spirit.

And so I decided at that time forward that I would live for Him. And that’s what’s happened. And that was a long time ago. I’m 65 now. That was when I was 17. Christ radically transformed my life. Wow, that is a powerful testimony. You know, Matt, I’ve said for the longest time, you know, when we see what’s going on down in Venezuela, it’s being justified with the War on Drugs. And I’ve said for the longest time, you know, I have real issues with the government being involved in prohibition because, you know, it didn’t work when they did it with alcohol, and alcohol was very harmful.

I’ve said many times. I would have supported that had I been back then, because it was so harmful. It’s like, yeah, let’s try it. And they did it legally. They actually, you know, amended the Constitution, so they had the authority to do that. Very different situation with the War on Drugs. It was just. And I think they called it. I honestly think they called it the War on Drugs because they didn’t want to use the term prohibition because it had been such a fake failure in terms of corruption of government and due process and creating gangs and all the rest of this stuff.

And I’VE said for the longest time, and I’ve interviewed people who are law enforcement against prohibition. And they said, this is not something you’re going to solve with force with law enforcement. And I said, this is a spiritual issue. And I tell you, your testimony really underscores the fact that it is. The drug war is really a spiritual war. And it’s not something that you’re going to fix with the police and the military. The answer to that is our society turning to Christ. It’s what happened to you. And so that’s really what we need to focus on.

And we try to take these shortcuts and we look at this and we say, well, we got this big powerful military and we’ve got this big powerful police force. And so we got this hammer where’s a nail that we can use against this, you know? And so that’s how we get into these situations, when the reality is is that that’s not the solution at all. All it does is give us other problems that we didn’t have before and it does nothing to fix. Here we are 54 years into the war on drugs and it’s only gotten worse.

We’ve got more intense forms of these drugs as well. But that’s an amazing testimony about the failure of our society and the power of Christ to really fix these things. Yes. That’s amazing. Yeah, absolutely. Something along the lines of what you’re talking about, to just affirm what you’re saying is so true, is that in the 1970s, about the time I was in Teen Challenge Detroit, Teen Challenge, the Teen Challenge was actually brought under scrutiny by the federal government for fraudulent claims. Understand? Really? Oh, yeah. This is when the government is running, the CIA is running drugs and all this stuff.

So they come after Teen Challenge. Wow. They go after Teen Challenge. And the average cure rate for in a cure is a year. After you’re out of the program, you’re still drug free. For secular programs, the average Cure rate is 3 to 4%. 96 to 97% of men and women who go into those programs are off drugs for six months, a year, whatever the length of the program is, within a year are back on drugs. Teen Challenge was claiming to have an 84% cure rate based on that same standard, 84%. So the federal government decides, oh, this is terrible.

This goss has to be fraud. And they had a commission that took over. And so the commission was to investigate the fraud of Teen Challenge. The woman who headed up the commission was a black woman. I forget what state she was From. And she wrote a book after they were done with their investigation, which went on for about a year. And so the way they investigated was they actually met with these people who supposedly were changed. That was part of their investigation to determine whether they had an 84% cure rate. So after it was over, the federal commission determined that Teen Challenge actually was lying.

They did not have an 84% cure rate. They had an 87%. And the woman who headed up the commission wrote a book called the Jesus Factor, and her whole book, and she ended up being one to Christ, interviewing all these men who were, you know, lives were ruined by drugs and now knew Jesus. She wrote a book called the Jesus Factor, saying that is the overwhelm. That is why they have an 87% cure rate. Wow. So what you’re saying is exactly true. The importance of us reaching out to people and sharing the gospel with people, pointing them to the Lord, talking to them about the things of God, because his Word addresses every area of life.

That’s right. That’s right. So you can bring him into just about any discussion. Well, it really comes back to. Yeah. And it really comes. Look at all the different problems that we’ve got. You know, the. The homes that are split up, which is the beginning of your problems there. And drugs. We have violence and we have shootings. All the rest of this stuff. What is the answer to all this? Why is this all happening? Because we’ve had these things before. We’ve had access, probably even more so to guns. In the past, we had access to guns in schools.

What is the difference? I really think it is the Jesus factor that’s really the issue. We’ve turned away from Christ. Our. Our society is rotten at the foundation, and that’s why everything is collapsing on us. And that is the solution. You know, you’re talking about when you were talking about your relative, and you said your mom asked your relative, who’s your counselor? And it made me think of the Messiah this time of year, you know. Yep. Wonderful. Counselor. Amen. Amen. Out of Isaiah. Yep. Same thing. Yep. So, you know, I. I talk a lot about civil government matters because most churchmen don’t.

I wrote that book that you had mentioned earlier, and. But I. I tell everybody everywhere I speak and where I go, there’s two things we need to do. We need to address our government from the word of God. They need to be instructed in. Yes. God’s thinking regarding civil realm matters. Yes. And at the same time, we need to talk about Christ and point men to Him. And so I have this little card that I always give out everywhere I go. It says, alone. Arrested in jail. I was living a life of emptiness, misery, robbery, arson, drugs and hate.

There had to be more to life than what I saw with my eyes. But what was it? Yeah, so that’s kind of like to draw them in. And on the other side, it says, my name is Matt. This is my story. And I have a little QR code with our website, how Jesus Changed My Life. And. And I get correspondence, David, from both unbelievers and believers who find the cards when I leave them around. And you never know how God’s going to use that in people’s life. And that’s something we need to do. It’s not an either or.

It’s not, oh, either tell people about Jesus or we get involved in civil government things. God’s word speaks to every area of life. That’s right. So we need to talk about both things. That’s right. That’s right. That’s the thing, you know, when you have an amazing testimony like yours. I remember there was a young woman in church once, people were talking about their testimony. She said, I just grew up in church. I don’t have anything to say. And she said, but then I realized one day that. Excuse me. I realized one day that God had saved me from all those things.

He saved me from them before I got into them. That’s it too, you know. Amen. That’s been the case. That’s been the case in America before God saved us, before we got into those things. But now we’re in a situation as a culture where God can save us out of those things. And so that’s why your testimony is so important. Really is. Again, the book is Lesser Magistrate, and you can find it at Fly Tyrants. Excuse me. I’m sorry. Things have gotten really rough with me after I’ve had my stroke. I have so much trouble controlling my emotions.

We’ll take a quick break. Thank you for having me on, David. Thank you. Thank you. The5tyrants.com we’ll be right back. You’re listening to the David Knight Show. I wish I had a Christmas Night album. You can get the Christmas Night album@the davidnightshow.com for just 13.99. It was right in the second floor there, see? What’d you wish, George? Well, not just one wish, your whole hat for. First, I’m going to the davidnightshow.com and purchase the Christmas Night album. Then I’m gonna listen to Christmas Classics like, are you gonna throw rock? I want the Christmas Night album too.

Hey, that’s pretty good. Hello, gals. Can’t you come out tonight? Can’t you come out tonight? Come out tonight. David’s Christmas night album includes 21 instrumental Christmas melodies like God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen, Silent Night, and is all new I’ll Be Home for Christmas. What do you want? You. You want the moon? Just say the word and I’ll throw a lasso around it. Pull it down, I’ll take it in. What? And then I’ll buy you your own download of David Knight’s Christmas Night album. That brings us to something that Lance found that I thought was very interesting.

And that is the brain. The brain interface transference here. That is a company that is called. Hang on a second, I’ll get it right here. Brain. It. Brain. It is their thing. And they’re not the only company that’s doing this. There’s a lot of different companies that are doing this. And let’s show people what this really looks like. Scroll down and show. Zoom in on those pictures. Now there’s pairs of pictures and you’ll see an image that the person is looking at. It says scene image. Right next to it is the reconstructed image. And look at that.

There’s a giraffe. And then right next to it is a giraffe. But the giraffe is standing in exactly the same position and same way and looked at from the same angle, looking kind of back over its shoulder. To be clear, the scene image is what the human is looking at. And then there is sensors connected to the brain that’s creating the reconstructed image. The computer hasn’t seen this seen image. Only the human sees this. And this is entirely constructed from a brain scan. That’s right. So they can sense what you are looking at and completely reconstruct it.

And look at how identical these images are. Now, you know, you got a stop sign and it got stop sign as well as the word stop. The only thing that’s missing there is the four way thing underneath it. It didn’t quite reconstruct that exactly. And then when you look at the pieces of pizza, it is a little bit more orderly in the way that it put the pizza together that’s there. But even when it gets some of the details wrong, it still has the basic orientation there. Scroll it up a little bit. The snow border that is there.

Take a look at the snowboarder. So here the basic orientation is right. Even though the snowboarder has one leg up, the arms are still Extended and still in basically the same orientation. It’s going down the snow with a shadow that’s main cast. But it is truly amazing. Yeah, show the baseball one. That’s another good one that’s there. So the baseball thing, you got three different people, and they’re all basically in the same orientation. The one again on the left is the actual picture that the human is looking at. The one on the right is a reconstruction by scanning his.

By monitoring his brain. And then the computer is reconstructing that one on the right. And so you’ve got a catcher who is squatting and he’s got one arm extended out, and that is captured again. And then the umpire behind him, who is in the same crouching position. Even though the colors change a little bit, it still has that there. And then moving up to the. To the room, the motel room. Look at that. Even has the same color bedspread there. And the one above it, we have the motorcycle still in exactly the same angle. And it figured out there’s a person on a racing motorcycle, even though it got the colors slightly different on that.

It’s truly. It’s amazing. Interesting to me because it’s little details that it gets wrong, that if you were to remember this image, you would probably get a lot of these same details wrong, like exactly the color scheme of their clothes, but it still gets the general color scheme across all three of them. Yeah, the three people saying there for the skiing thing. And again, the. The jet, the military jet. It gets a little bit of the details on the bottom that are different, but it basically has it all there. So it is pretty much getting the gist of it.

Just as Lance said you would remember that when you come back. Now, what is interesting about this, I think, is the fact that it’s not just one company that’s doing this. There are at least 11, we’ll say, a dozen companies that are out there. I bet you we didn’t look this up, but I bet you every single one of them has got grants from DARPA or. Or some federal agency, most likely darpa, in order to do this kind of stuff. You know, what is the use case for something like this and how’d they put it together? Well, this particular company is bragging about how superior their method is.

They use fmri. Fmri, The MRI scanner that you have. They put you in the machine and, you know, scan your brain and things like that. I had several of those done. This is functional mri. And what it does, instead of looking at the structure of the brain and Saying, you know, are there physical alterations to the brain after a stroke or something like that? It looks at changes in the brain that are happening dynamically over time. And so that’s what the functional MRI is about. Rather than looking at the physiology or the structure of the brain, it’s actually looking at the dynamic brain activity.

And so to train these models, one of the things that this company is bragging about is that they spend about an hour training it, and their competitors might spend 40 hours training it, and they get far superior results. It truly is amazing when you look at, at how long they spend training it and how much better their recognition is, being able to sense what you are seeing and thinking about and basically reading your mind. And so it is the brain interaction transformer, they call themselves. Bit. Now, what they do, what is the training? Well, it turns out that everybody has these localized patch level image features.

And so they call them the, they call them clusters. Okay? And so they’re looking at brain voxel clusters and they say all humans have this, but these clusters will be located in different places on different subjects, same thing, but it’ll be slightly moved around. You know, when you have a stroke, they call it brain plasticity. And so when you have a stroke, part of your brain dies. And if you get the functionality back, it’s because another part of your brain has taken up that activity, they said. So some very, very young children, maybe in infancy, might have a stroke that would affect, for example, their speech.

And what they found is that even though that might reside on one side of the their brain versus the other side of the brain, those young children, when they have the stroke that affects the side of the brain where normally speech would be, they found that as they learn to speak, the other side of their brain picks it up. And so that’s what’s called brain plasticity. In other words, it can adapt and train that other side of the brain to take over those functions. So that’s what they’re basically looking at here with these voxel clusters. They know that, you know, certain things are going to be fired.

They just don’t know exactly where that’s going to be in a person’s brain. So they spend an hour mapping those things out and then they get very, very accurate results. And what they do is they split it into two different aspects. One of them is the semantics. And I think what that does is kind of give them a context, you know, so when you look at how you got two people standing and they’re kind of standing in this particular orientation picks up that. And then the other one is about more about the details that are there.

And then they run these two different paths together. So first they have programs that are looking at the voxel clusters, creating a kind of semantic context. The other one is creating a context for the features. And then they take the output of those two things and put them into something else that combines and sums those things together to give them that kind of image. It’s pretty interesting in terms of technology that is there, but I think it is absolutely abhorrent that they’re doing this. I can’t think of any reason for them to do something like this now.

They’ll come up with some kind of a fake justification, just like they’re talking about with the creating babies with a hatchery. Oh, well, we’ll do it to save people from some kind of genetic disease. And they’re leaning into that excuse, leaning into that narrative by calling their company preventive. Right. But these are the kinds of things, you know, when we look at this, actually, you know, Lance, pull up the one that says it’s titled Brain Interaction Transformer. And when you look at that chart, you’ll see that in their chart, when they’re talking about the cross Transformer module, they’ve got that listed there twice.

And guess what? They misspelled Transformer. I’m being a little bit of a grammar Nazi here, but I got to just say that, you know, we’re talking about things like this. The little details matter. And I wonder what happens when you switch some of the stuff, reconstructing things, and it’s a critical mission. I don’t know. To be honest, this sounds a lot more like a Decepticon ploy than the Transformers to me, but what do I know? Yeah, it sounds pretty crazy to me. Look at one last one here. And that is comparing their images to these other models that are out there.

Their company is called Brain it, and they compare it to some other companies. Mind Turner, Mind Eye 2, Neuro VLA. And so look at this. They have the best mind reader on the market right now. Yeah, that’s absolutely right. So, you know, when you’re. The interesting one, I think is the last one, the Neuro vla, because it always gets the object correct, but it gets it in a very different context. Yeah, that’s right. Yeah. So that first row there, you’re seeing a bowl of some white stuff, maybe it’s oatmeal or something, and you’re seeing a banana right next to it.

And then when you look at the Neuro vla. They’ve got a bowl and then they got a banana. But it’s not at all in the same orientation and brain. It was able to do that. And you see that repeated over and over again. They kind of get some of it, but they don’t get all of it. You know, it’s kind of interesting. What it reminded me of was this. Mr. Vinman, Ghostbusters. Good guess, but wrong. Hear that from Bill Murray. And the mind reading thing opened up Ghostbusters. I wonder if they shock these people who created these models.

They get it right. Tell me what you think it is. Is it a star? It is a star. That’s great. And yet you can see from behind him that it wasn’t. Think hard. Circle. Close. Definitely wrong. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right, ready? What is it? Figure eight. Incredible. That’s five for five. You can’t see these, can you? No. You’re not cheating. Course that’s not what it was. No, I swear. They’re just coming to me. Okay. Nervous? Yes. I don’t like this. You only have 75 more to go. Okay. What’s this one? Couple wavy lines. Sorry. You got it right.

Hey, I’m getting a little tired of this. You volunteered, didn’t you? We’re paying you, aren’t we? Yeah, but I didn’t know you were gonna be giving me electric shocks. What are you trying to prove here anyway? I’m studying the effect of negative reinforcement on ESP ability. The effect? I’ll tell you what the effect is. It’s pissing me off. Well, then maybe my theory is correct. You can keep the five bucks I’ve had. I will, mister. Keep the five bucks. I wonder what they pay these people to go through an hour of mri. It’s the kind of resentment that your ability is going to provoke in some people.

Yeah, so? Yeah, that’s kind of interesting. But now they’re doing it for real. Okay? They’re going to use AI to read people’s minds. And again, when they list out a table and they compare themselves percentage wise to these other people, you see that there are 11 of these companies that are out there doing this stuff. And who is paying them? I bet it is some evil organization. Like, Is it all just about the winning? When we look at this, is winning everything and the only thing. No, I don’t think that’s the case. We really need to have meaningful moral reform.

You know, there’s an excellent article, and I’ve talked about William Wilberforce in the past, but there’s an Excellent article talking about what he wrote in 1807 when he stopped the slave trade. And we’re not going to go through all the details of it but just to make you aware of. Was called A Letter on the Abolition of the Slave Trade by William Wilberforce. It was published less than a month before the British Parliament voted overwhelmingly to abolish the slave trade. And it encapsulates two decades of relentless effort by Wilberforce. One historian aptly described that parliamentary vote as one of the turning events in the history of the world.

And it was. Slavery has always existed at every time and in every culture. But it was William Wilberforce who single handedly started to turn this tide. And he did it because of his Christian principles. And that’s the point of this article. To talk about how effective and how necessary it is for Christians to hold to those principles. It’s not just about winning. It’s not about that at all. The whole reason he did this fight and understand take the biggest things that are out there. This is like one guy taking on all of the technocracy or one guy taking on all of the oil industry or all the military industrial complex or all of the pharmaceutical or roll those all together.

Big pharma, big food, the military industrial complex. Roll those all together. That was slavery at the time in his country. He took all that on and he won. And he won because he stood on principle. Wilberforce’s work is not merely historical. It provides a timeless model for how Christians can and should engage in public life. It calls us to integrate faith, reason and courage into our engagement with public policy. Wilberforce’s approach to public policy was unapologetically grounded in Christian morality. By the way, this article is from Christian Post. He spoke boldly as a Christian and Parliament addressing his nation’s accountability to God.

Even in a society that might appear more receptive to Christian values than our own, such declarations were not always welcome. Yeah, not even in Britain at that time. Which is far more accepting of Christian values than America is now. Wilberforce begins and ends with a solemn warning. He said the slave trade was an abominable evil that placed the British Empire under the judgment of God. His moral clarity cut through the political expediency, challenging his contemporaries to see the slave trade not as an economic necessity but as a profound moral failing. Same thing is true of abortion today, isn’t it? And so many other issues we always have.

Culture is downstream from religion and politics is downstream from culture. Wilberforce paired his moral convictions with Meticulous research and evidence, he often spent 14 hours a day studying and gathering facts about the slave trade, a pace that he eventually moderated for the sake of his health. The rigorous preparation, though, allowed him to systematically counter every objection raised by his opponents. Folks, if you don’t read, you can’t lead. You gotta lead with the facts. Especially if you’re gonna do things on the name of, in the name of truth, in the name of morality, and do things in the name of God, you’ve got to lead with the truth and you’ve got to know what that is.

In his letter on the abolition of the slave trade, Wilberforce methodically dismantled pro slavery arguments, presenting a case so thorough, so compelling that it could not be ignored. His work underscores the importance of combining moral passion with intellectual precision. And a lot of hard work. He said it’s not enough to simply declare what is right. We have to also engage in reasoned evidence based advocacy. Whether the issue is religious freedom, the sanctity of life, or justice for the marginalized, we must be prepared to make our case with clarity and convictions for us today. He faced fierce opposition from powerful interests tied to the slave trade and two colonial economies.

And at one point he was challenged to a duel by a slave ship captain and he received multiple death threats. Yet he pressed on with unwavering determination. Wilberforce confronts his opponents head on in his book arguing that the abolition of the slave trade would ultimately benefit the economy. He declared that even if economic losses occurred, the moral imperative to end quote, the most enormous crime of slavery outweighed everything else. You know, we have to understand and the founders of this country understood that prosperity like liberty are a blessing from God. And that should be our first concern.

Our first concern should be to seek God’s blessing. And that means that we follow the principles that he laid out. As I say here in the Christian post, for Christians today, engaging in public life often means standing against cultural tides, enduring criticism and hostility. Wilberforce’s example challenges us to speak the truth in love, regardless of the cost. Transformational change is possible when Christians engage the public square with conviction and perseverance. That is the legacy that was taught to us by William Wilberforce. That’s right, boys and girls, there’s a post election sale on silver and gold. Trump euphoria has caused a dip in silver and gold.

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It’s called truth in truth nigeria.com and so you can find out what is happening there. We wanted to get it straight from. From Jud Judd. Tell us a little bit about this. I see that you went in 2011 and you first saw what was happening there. That’s 14 years this has been going on now. But tell us what you saw that got you activated. Well, what I saw that got me activated. So I went first to Nigeria with my grandfather, who was an evangelist and wanted to heard stories about Nigeria, wanted to go help serve on the mission.

And when I got there, people were telling us about these attacks that have been going on against them in their communities. And I personally saw the aftermath of some of these attacks when I was there. And it always just like, it just struck me to my core. Yeah, I bet. I was like. And I kept on asking questions. I was like, what are people doing about this? What are. What are other missionaries? Are there any other organizations doing something about this? What can be done? So over the years, I kept on serving with this other mission I was working with, but then in 2019, I started equipping the persecuted because, frankly, I’d had enough.

I’ve talked to pastors and other missionaries and other people there, and I said, what if we created an organization that actually wants to stop the persecution? What if we had an organization that trained village security teams? What if we had an organization that responds to these attacks within 48 hours? And they said, we need this yesterday. When can we start? So that’s what started equipping the persecuted. Because I looked around and I saw that very few people were actually trying to do something about the situation. A lot of people talking, but no action on the ground.

That’s right. Because the government doesn’t want to stop this. I mean, the government is kind of a silent partner in all this, from what I’ve been able to see. Is that correct? Would you say the government there? Yeah. Well, in particular. Well, we. There was President Goodluck Jonathan, who is Christian, that was trying to use Nigerian resources to fight Boko Haram and fight the Fulani terrorists. But then what happened was when Obama came into office, he then started sending Democrat operatives to Nigeria to get Muslim presidents elected over Christian presidents. And when you saw the Muslim presidents take over, you saw the killing increase exponentially.

Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I guess he was appropriately named Good Luck, Jonathan. I’m going to stop the Muslims killing Christians. Good luck, Jonathan. Well, yes. So what’s been going on is before it would be like you’d have a Christian president, Muslim vice president, Muslim president, Christian vice president. But in the last three presidential terms, what you’ve had is a Muslim, Muslim ticket. And the government has been laying cover for the terrorists and turning a blind eye to the killing and pretending it doesn’t exist. And so that was Obama’s influence. And so you could have a positive influence as well from the U.S.

but that’s not there. I want to focus more on what you actually do in terms of terms of equipping the persecuted. I heard you talk about emergency response teams, talking about village security. Tell us a little bit about those things. So currently, the Nigerian government, you have the police, you have the military, which are all nationalized. They’re all run by the Nigerian government. But what the Nigerian government did do is recognize village security teams. They’re called vigilante. Now, vigilante in the US Has a negative connotation, but the word vigilante has a positive connotation in Nigeria. And so these are people that are from their local villages that get together to defend their villages or the first line of defense.

But they get no arms, they get no training, they get no funding. And we’ve taken it upon our ministry to come alongside them and say, you know what, we’ll give you some training. How about we give you some radios, some locally sourced bulletproof vests, things that you can do to try to help defend your village. We can’t get in the arms business, but what we can do is come alongside them and give them training and some basic materials to help save lives. That’s good. Yeah, yeah. What we call that here in the US Instead of vigilantes, we would call it a posse, but of course they would be armed in order to be able to do something about it.

And that is not allowed there. I understand. And certainly your organization could not provide that. What about a quick response team after something like this has happened? Of course that’s going to be medical care and other things. Yeah. So what happens is, you know, the Fulani come in. Let’s say it’s a town of a thousand 1500. They’ll come in, start shooting, start funneling people in and kill as many as they can. But then you have a lot of survivors that are no longer allowed to return from their. To their homes because the Fulani have decimated everything.

They’ve burned the houses down, they chop down all the crops, they raise everything. Wow. Wow. And then all these people are put into these camps. Well, they don’t have any food, they don’t have any clothing, they don’t have any shelter. And so we try to, within 48 hours, is deploy food, aid and medicine within these attacks. And many times we come across a lot of wounded victims that haven’t been treated, people that have had bullets in their arms and in their bodies for over 48 hours, that need medical care and surgery. And we come alongside, pay for those medical costs and try to help the wounded.

Wow. That’s very important. You know, we get frustrated because it’s like, you know, nobody’s talking about this and certainly nobody’s doing anything about it. And, you know, it is. It is somewhat difficult. I’m sure that there’s levers that could be pulled if Trump wanted to do anything about it, but the US Government typically doesn’t. Now, Obama did. When you look at these. These people, they push. He pushed the Muslims in there. But is there also a Marxist component to this as well? I. It’s mostly just Muslims, I would say there’s a hint of that creeping in.

A little nationalized things do that. But I see more of traditional Islam. 101 Dominance is what’s driving this force. Now, the Nigerian government lately has been very cozy to the Chinese while the Biden administration and the US Government’s turned a blind eye to Nigeria on a lot of things. The Chinese are filling that void, providing a lot of money. They’re sending in some of their politics in, but they’re also capitalizing on. On, I would say on the crisis, because what we’re seeing now is Chinese mines sprouting up on what were once Christian lands and they’re illegally mining.

And, you know, the terrorists aren’t killing the Chinese because they’re probably taking some money on the back end for allowing the Chinese to mine in these areas. Yeah, that’s right. Wow. And just say that just recently, this is on Saturday the 25th. Christians are urged to pray as an American missionary pilot, Kevin Rideout, was abducted in Niger. This is very dangerous work that you do, isn’t it? Yeah, yeah, we’re praying for that pilot. I have some friends that are within that missions organization and I called them and asked them about that specific situation, and so far, there’s been no ransom asked for.

What we think is happening is that they kidnapped him and they’re using the pilot to do things for them. They don’t want to ransom them out. They want to essentially turn him into a slave for doing what their work is. That’s what I’m. That’s what I’m hearing on the ground. Okay. Because there has been no ransom called yet for that gentleman, and it’s very dangerous. We have to travel with armed security. Wherever we go in Nigeria, we have armed security teams. And we know, especially now, I’ve been speaking out against what’s going on in Nigeria publicly.

You know, there’s more of a risk there. But we go by God’s grace and his mercy and protection. Well, good for you. That’s fearless. And that’s what people of faith should be. Should be fearless. I played the clip before you came on of a pastor there, and we’ve seen so many videos on social media of the mass funerals that are being held with all the bodies that are there, because the killing has been just astounding. And is it increasing or how would you characterize it recently? Oh, no. The killings increased this year. Before, it would be between 4 to 5,000 Christians killed per year.

Wow. But this year, since January 1st, there’s been over 7,000 Christians that have been killed. Wow. Wow. The attacks are ramping up and the Nigerian government turning a blind eye to it, or I would just say they’re complicit and the mainstream media is laying cover for it as well. Wow. Yeah. It absolutely is a case of genocide. And of course, that’s what Bill Maher said, and he was right. We’ve been talking about it here as well. But they’re very selective about what they’re concerned about. And as we see you mentioned China coming in there, we see all the the time people would talk about what the Chinese are doing to the Muslim Uighurs that are there, or they talk about what they’re doing to the Falun Gong.

But rarely did they talk about what’s being done to the Christians in China. And so, you know, China, this is par for the course for China coming in, as you point out, in Nigeria, doing a deal with the government and putting mines on the land of the Christian villagers who’ve been killed in the. Their homes have been destroyed and that type of thing. It is. It’s truly amazing. Tell us what else you are involved in outside of Nigeria, or is there more that you want to talk about with Nigeria? Well, primarily my full time work since 2019 has been focused on Nigeria and in trying to raise awareness but also help the people on the ground.

One of the figures that I haven’t pointed out to you is that there’s between 3.5 million and 5 million Christians that have been removed from their homes, that are living in camps. Wow. That are suffering from disease, starvation and just awful, awful conditions. And they haven’t been able to return back to their homes because the Fulani Muslim terrorists have squatted on their land. And if these Christians go back, they get killed. Wow. That is amazing. Yeah. The Republicans are not interested in this. According to course the Democrats were in terms of equipping the Muslims to do this kind of persecution.

But the Republicans are just, I guess looking elsewhere with all this truly is amazing. We are gaining a little headway with Republicans, but we’re fighting a war of narratives. I think there are people, there are some in the Republican Party that are capitalizing off of, off of the well, they don’t want to solve the solution. They don’t want to solve the problem. I think they’re capitalizing on the back end. And we have other Republicans that are coming up and calling for US intervention on behalf of persecuted Christians in Nigeria. But there is a battle in a war of words and a war of narratives.

We’re fighting against. And there is a genocide against Christians in Nigeria. The, the, the, we have some Republicans and the Democrats obviously repeating Muslim talking points from Nigeria that there is no crisis, there is no genocide, it’s bandits or these unknown gunmen. Everybody refuses to name who’s doing the killing. And it’s Muslims killing Christians. Yeah, well, of course, as my producer says, we’re too busy blowing up boats to worry about Christians being genocided. That’s I guess, happening here. We have our different areas that we’re interested in and we have our areas that we have some financial interest in.

China, of course, is taking an interest in it. They’re looking at getting minerals out of this area. But my producer also says what about providing them with 3D printers where they could make their own weapons? They’d have to have electricity. Do they have electricity in these villages? No. That’s the problem. That’s the problem. Like we have solutions, but they don’t have the power, they don’t have the power source to be able to do these things. Power, especially in these areas. They’re lucky if there is a line run to their communities. They’re lucky it runs 10% of the time, they’re lucky to have power maybe 10% of the time.

The rest is just blackout. It’s awful. Wow. Talk to me as an evangelist. I mean, what is it like talking to somebody in an area where there’s this kind of a persecution for becoming a Christian? I mean, that’s like a death sentence. I would imagine that would be a pretty big obstacle to overcome when you’re talking to somebody about Christ. Well, actually, it’s not as hard as you think, because when you have people that already live in abject poverty and then everything getting totally taken away from them, you come in, meeting the needs, presented with the gospel, people are very willing to, to hear, and they accept it.

And the Christians that are murdered for their faith, that refuse to convert to Islam, have a real sense of Christianity that I wish most Americans. Most Americans couldn’t understand. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah. Where they get up in the morning thanking God, thank you for letting me. Thank you for allowing me another breath today. Thank you for allowing me to live. And they get up going, lord, we’re relying on you for sustenance. They have no choice but to rely on God, but they stay faithful to the end. And that’s what keeps me motivated, keeps me coming back.

And that testimony, actually, really, it makes it easy to share the gospel. These people and even the ones that are nominal, not fully saved. We’ve even seen Muslims come to know Christ because they’ve seen our kindness, they’ve seen how we treat one another, and we come to care for them. And we see many Muslims come to know Christ through this mission just because we’re shining a light into the darkness. That’s great. Yeah. Yeah. We have this life of comfort which is not conducive to a Christian life, really. When we’re struggling with hardship, that makes Christ so much more precious.

And we see him working in different ways in our life like that. And that is something that many people in the west, the affluence gets in the way of us being able to see that. And when you’re living hand to mouth like that, you really can see it. Do they speak English? Most of them. Do the educated Nigerians speak English. You have a lot of people in the rural communities that only have their tribal language that they know. They know some English, but majority of the country does speak English. So what about Bibles and things like that? Most of it is done in English.

Or do you have it in the tribal languages as well? We have it in English, but then we have Bibles printed in I say their dominant tribal language. So a lot of the area we work in is Hausa. And so we have Bibles printed in Hausa that we give to these people. And then Fulani converts, Fulani Muslim converts that convert to Christianity, we have the Bible printed in their language and given to them. And so with technology and the way things are, we’re able to get the Bible translated into several different tribal languages. And we get them out there, but if they know English, we give them English Bible.

If they don’t, we give them a Bible in their translation. Talk to us a little bit about the Fulani tribesmen. Of course, I see that phrase all the time. But. But, you know, where are these people coming from? Are they Nigerian or are they coming from another area, trying to take over areas of Nigeria? What’s going on with the Fulani, another Muslim? So the Fulani are not indigenous to Nigeria. They’re coming from way up North Africa, from the Sahel, so Niger, Chad. They’re nomadic herders, and they’ve worked their way south and going into Nigeria. And wherever these guys end up, they end up taking territory, killing, and continuing to gain political power.

They’re a conquering tribe, but they do it through Islam, I call it. They start with cultural jihad, where they move in, they become neighbors, they do business, kids go to school together. Then when they get the population and the political power, then they start the killing, and then they keep working their way further south and doing that. And so they’re not indigenous to Nigeria. They’re an invading tribe. That seems to be an established pattern for Muslim conquest. Isn’t it coming in and gradually, as you start to accumulate your numbers, you come in peacefully at first. Talk about Boko Haram, and of course, we’ve heard about them for quite some time attacking and kidnapping girls out of schools because they don’t want girls reading anything.

Getting educated. But give us an idea of where they’re coming from and what they’re about. So Bokan Rama are also Fulani? Oh, it’s the same thing. They’re Fulani. They’re. But they’re just. They’re. They’ve. They’ve. There’s. You know, how radical Islam, they have different groups that sprout up. So one is not as hardcore as the other one in their Islam. And they have rival groups. So you have ISIS of West Africa, you have Boko Haram, but they’re all Fulani. And they practice a Sunni. Wahhabi is form of Islam, which is a very radical Saudi Arabian form of Islam.

And Then they kind of battle it out here and there. But then the Fulani that aren’t necessarily affiliated with Aiswap or Boko Haram still coordinate together to go kill and take over more territory. Wow. Wow. So the Wahhabi, sometimes they have their. They have their little spats, you know, you know, one’s not as radical as the other, so we got to fight each other over here, but they still systematically conquer as they go. Yeah. Wow. So Wahhabists, not, not the Sunnis or the Shias, but they’re more like the Saudis. So imagine a lot of, you know, the Sharia law with beheadings and mutilation over theft and all the rest of the stuff that is there, as well as the, you know, putting hoods on women and all the rest of this.

So. So how can people support you? They can go to the website and they can get information about what you’re doing and how they can support you. Yeah, you can go to equipping the persecuted.org partner with our organization. We need all the help we can get. Like I said, our resources are. The need is great. Resources are small. We’re doing everything we can to help out our persecuted brothers and sisters. Sisters. And then if you want information up to date news on what’s going on in nigeria, go to truth nigeria.com well, I really appreciate what you’re doing and it really is important.

I mean, there is. Other than, you know, talking to politicians and complaining about what politicians are doing or not doing, you are actually getting in there and helping the people who have been attacked, who have been, you know, families that have been physically attacked, the people have been shot, give them medical care to help to rebuild their houses, I guess, as well as part of that. And that is really a key thing. And of course equipping them with a kind of a warning system since they’re not allowed to defend themselves in, in that country. But thank you so much for what you’re doing.

And again, truthnigeria.com and equipping the persecuted.org are the places where people can find out about what you’re doing there. Before you leave, though, you’re a filmmaker, so do you have a documentary about this that you have done? So we’ve put out a few. We’re working on putting together a series of mini documentaries about certain subjects in Nigeria. We put out one a few months ago called the Father’s Day Massacre, which took. Which was an attack that took place in June in Benway, Nigeria, on father’s Day, where 280 Christians were slaughtered. Half of them were burned alive.

The other half that weren’t burned alive were shot and hacked to death with machetes trying to escape the fires. Oh, that’s. And that was a very significant moment that we decided we needed to do, you know, cover and show that, show how horrific that attack was to let people know that this, this persecution is real. Wow. And it’s not just about, it’s not just about banditry and farmer herder conflict, that this is a real genocide. And we put that out in June. It’s called the Father’s Day Massacre. And then before that, I’ve done political. Where can people find that? Is that on YouTube or is it something right on our website? Equipping persecuted.org all right, good.

Yes. Well, it truly is amazing. And you know, before you came in, I played the one guy who was talking about 100 years. We won’t know anything at all, but Christ knows what they have done. Sam. Sa. Hi, my name is Brian Hooker and I’m the chief scientific officer for Children’s Health Defense. And I want to talk to you about an important initiative of CHD called the COVID Index. This is the information that the powers that be did not want you to see. This web repository refutes the narrative, the official narrative regarding COVID 19. It has a very, very, very comprehensive, easy to use search engine so you can search readily and also get direct excerpts from every entry in the COVID Index.

There’s so much information out there that needs to be curated and this is a place where it has been done and is being done continuously. So I highly recommend that you check out this resource at www.www.covidindex.science. all right, welcome back. And that was a little introductory video that you’ll find at that site, covidindex Science. I didn’t even know they had a dot Science. I guess they did that in honor of Fauci. It’d be interesting to get the domain name IAM Science. Joining us now is Dr. Brian Hooker. He’s a chief scientific officer at Children’s Health Defense, formerly the department chair and professor emeritus of biology at Simpson University.

And I have been following his very valuable research and the very valuable things that Children’s Health Defense had through this massive pandemic MacGuffin that we always talk about. And it’s good, you know, we can look at this stuff and, and we can understand the motivations of these people and we can sanity check it, but it’s important to have the scientific information that’s there as well. And that’s what Dr. Hooker provides. You know, it was actually Children’s Health Defense. And I think ICON that when they sued the cdc, the CDC is part of the the vaccine, holding them not responsible for any damage that they did to the kids.

I forget the exact name of it. The 1986 act, and you probably know what that is. Dr. Hoover, what’s the name of that official act? It’s called the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury act. And it set up the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. And the program was up and running at about 1989. And they were supposed to be tracking, as part of part of that agreement, they were supposed to track the adverse events and to make recommendations and so forth. And So I remember RFK Jr and Del Big Tree at ICAHN asked them, you know, we’d like to see your records and see what recommendations you have made and so forth and so on.

They stalled and stalled and stalled and wouldn’t comply with it. Finally, they had a judge that forced them to give the information. You could see that for 30 plus years they had not been concerned about any of this stuff. They’d kept no records at all. And so it’s very important when we come into this, if we understand what the priorities of these people are, that it’s not your health, that it’s the profits of the corporations and the revolving door that is there. That’s an important thing to start with. But what Dr. Hooker has provided is beyond that and it gives us the tools that we need in order to try to help educate people.

And they’ve got a new resource now, Covid Index Science. So with that long introduction, thank you so much for joining us. I really do appreciate you coming on today. Well, you’re very welcome. And I’m excited that Children’s Health defense is hosting COVIDindex science. It is such an amazing repository of information of all things around the COVID era. And now what’s going on the post, post Covid era, you know, the mess that was created by the whole pandemic needs to be cleaned up. And that’s, you know, the fallout. We’re continuing to see publications come out and publications that we feel are bad or fraudulent that are not good science, we want to make sure that those are critiqued in the COVID 19 index.

And then also the good science that’s coming out so people will know, you know, what’s going on with things like remdesivir, hospital protocols, the vaccine, the therapies that work that have been disparaged like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and vitamin D3 and zinc and, you know, so we’ve got sort of a historical basis, and we’ve built this edifice of information, and it’s a living database. We’re always updating the COVID index, so when things come out, then we can feature the new information and some of the information pouring out, like ties to things like autism, as well as neurodevelopmental disabilities for individuals that got the shot in pregnancy.

And also, one of the things that practitioners are talking about are turbo cancers. We’re seeing so many turbo cancers that we believe that the vaccine played a role in either causing that cancer or hastening the growth of that cancer. Yes, I remember. And I remember pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole talking in the spring of 2021 as it was really starting to roll out in a large way. He said, I’m looking at patients and I’m seeing that it’s damaging their killer T cells. And he goes, and that’s when I first heard the term turbo cancer. I think he was talking about that.

He said, it’s really going to cause that to explode, because that’s your body’s first defense against cancer cells, the killer T cells. And so I guess the killer. First question I would have for you, what about people who got the shots? Many of the listeners have, hopefully they haven’t gotten it, but perhaps they have family or friends who have. What types of things? Are there going to be resources there at covidindex science that would help people who have been exposed to this pathogen? Yes, there are resources on recovery from COVID vaccine injury that is a part of the database.

And I would also encourage those individuals that are suffering and they really don’t know where to go, because so many practitioners either don’t acknowledge that it happens, or they’ll throw up their hands and say, I have no idea what to do. So I would encourage those individuals to email us@infoildrenshealthdefense.org and ask that question question directly. You know, I can’t really recommend practitioners, you know, in an interview or in a particular setting, but at least we can let people know what practitioners are in the area or what practitioners are specializing in those types of cancers or in those types of difficulties, like, you know, long COVID vaccine injury is extremely prevalent.

A lot of people are having symptoms that are similar to fibromyalgia that either got Covid or got the COVID shot. And we’re finding circulating spike protein in these individuals that got the COVID shot for upwards to two years after they got their last vaccine. So things can be done and things need to be done. Yes. I had an interview years ago with an injured orthopedic surgeon who could no longer work because his hands were shaking. And, and he kept going to fellow physicians and you know, as soon as he would say he thought it was a vaccine injury and this is what they would, they would just basically, I can’t help you.

You know, they would run away. It just tells us so much about the state of medicine right now, doesn’t it? Even to the extent that he finally went to somebody and the guy said, all right, I’ve got some things here that I think will help you, but we’re not going to talk about what caused it. I mean that kind of fear is like a totalitarian Stalin esque state. I mean this is the kind of stuff that Solzhenitsyn talked about in the Soviet Union. It is. And you know, we were so fortunate. California had a bill to actually codify that so physicians and providers could not deviate from the standard of care.

They could not talk about things that were outside side of like Remdesivir or Paxlovid or Monopolviner that were the sort of, you know, patented technologies that were going to give the most money, you know, to government scientists. And so they could not deviate from that line. They could never talk about Ivermectin. That bill passed, but fortunately it was overturned by a court decision and the bill. The California legislature withdrew. Druid but many practitioners do not know that, that they have the freedom to be able to deviate from the standard of care. Many are afraid because of individuals that have been persecuted, that have lost their certifications, things like that.

But quite honestly, I know the practitioners that have gone through the persecution that have lost their certifications, they fight back, they win. And so many of them are still in practice today. And I’m glad for people like Ryan Cole, for Peter McCullough, for Pierre Cory. They’ve really fought the system and are still seeing patients, treating patients and doing a lot of good. That’s great. Yeah. It is horrific to look at how corrupt the system is. And of course they got a lot of different ways that they can come after you. I’m pretty sure it was a Children’s Health Defense article where they were talking about how the insurance companies will come after the pediatricians who don’t follow the vaccine schedule and get a certain percentage of Their children vaccinated on schedule, they will basically cut across the board what they will pay these pediatricians and basically put them out of practice.

Even if you don’t get some review board to pull their license, they can pull that economic trick on you. I think that was from Children’s Health Defense. They have done that and. And they threatened that all the time. We were able to get the incentive program for one of the largest HMOs in the United States, and it was Anthem Blue Cross. And what we found was that pediatricians stood to make over a half a million dollars a year. Year. If 63% or more of their pediatric practice was fully vaccinated, they could get $600 per patient. If they had 1,000 patients that were fully vaccinated, that was $600,000.

And that was a yearly incentive. So, you know, those. Those individuals that have been fired from pediatric practices because they haven’t been following the vaccine schedule. That’s why it has nothing to do with health. It has everything to do with a pediatrician on the take. Yeah, that’s right. And of course, we look at the whole Covid thing, I was absolutely amazed. I remember it was In August of 2020, the American Hospital association was saying, wait a minute, you told us you’re going to give us a 20% bonus, and now you’re telling us that we got to give you our PCR test.

You told us at the beginning that you didn’t have enough of them and that they didn’t work anyway. Right. This is amazing. You know, been shouting about that now for five years. And people just don’t realize how they use financial strings to get their way with people and how they were financially incentivizing people. So you just point at them and say, they got Covid $9,000. You put them on a ventilator, we’re going to give you $39,000. We’ll give you a 20% bonus on everything that you do. If you say this person has Covid. I mean, the whole thing was bought and paid for.

Wasn’t really was. And that, you know, there was sort of an economic dearth, right. During the shutdown because they were shutting down hospitals and telling and taking elective surgeries and things like that and telling them to stay home. So then they waived these incentive programs. Come, you know, July, August of 2020 to the providers, to the hospitals, and really, you know, force them into a situation where many of them just had to go along. You know, let’s diagnose Covid. Let’s Diagnose, you know, we’re not going to give effective therapies. We really want to put people on ventilators because they got more money for ventilated patients and that were in icu.

And so that forced many, many more patients into that whole system where they got worse and worse and worse. And I think a lot of them, David, died of bacterial pneumonia, but they, you know, they were never tested for the. I agree, I agree. Presence of bacteria and they were allowed to die. It was just a crying shame. And people should go to jail over this. Yes, yes. Putting people on the ventilator and that type of thing. We have Grace Sherra’s case and they’re reopening that again. And that was another one of these cases. Just basically, basically hospital murder.

Put a do not resuscitate, put her on a ventilator. But I wanted to ask you a couple of things because there’s been some disappointment on my part and as well as a lot of my listeners with what’s going on with Maha, disappointed that the MRNA jab is still there. I mean, we’ve had the process and I understand there’s a lot of inertia here. I understand there’s a real political fight there. I kind of watched this as it’s been developing in Florida with Joseph Latipo there. First they came back and they said, well, we don’t recommend it, you know, but, you know, if you get it, you can go ahead and get it, but they’re not going to ban it.

And they’re gradually moving into that, you know, first saying, we strongly, we don’t recommend it, we’re not going to force anymore, but now we strongly do not recommend it, but they won’t actually come in with a ban on this kind of stuff. And it’s so frustrating because we have seen in the past when a handful of people died over a vaccine or over a medicine, they would pull it. And that is not happening now. They will pull it. If you got a couple of children who die because of a faulty baby crib, they pull all of them off the market, but they don’t do that with this.

And so the question is, you know, what is happening? Why don’t we see ban of the mRNA? And of course, what Latipo has moved to is to say that now pointing out the fact there’s a lot of DNA contamination in the vaccines and say this is something that should cause you to pull this off the market, but it’s not. And so at what point do you think this is going to happen or is it going to happen? I want it to happen desperately. You know, we have things that, that are not on the open market, that are not sold or distributed ever because they’re poisons, we call them poisons.

And so when you look at the MRNA shot, it is, it is pure poison. It is basically, you know, and people unfortunately are up in arms that they want their Covid boosters. They want their Covid boosters. I know people personally that are on their seventh or eighth booster and they are addicted to, to these things. And you wonder like, well, why are you still around? Because they are so, so toxic. And we’ve seen so many people affected. You know, I believe that in the United States, easily, if the calculations were done, we’d see over a million people who have died because of the COVID shot.

But the HHS has been dragging its heels and I think that part of it is more the administration end of it and not the HHS end of it. Because I know Secretary Kennedy, I worked with Secretary Kennedy for 12 years before he became Secretary Kennedy. And it is his heart and his plan to be able to get rid of that technology because it never should have been rolled out. People knew historically that that type of technology was bad news. And it was a grand medical experiment, you know, basically a big clinical trial that was head up by Tony Fauci and it should have never happened.

That man belongs in jail. You know, we’re pushing as hard as we can push. And honestly, there are people on the inside of HHS that are rooting for us and, and saying, no, push harder, push harder. Because we have this behemoth of an organization that doesn’t want to change. We have deep state people in HHS that don’t want to change. So we need more pressure. And of course, when we look at this, I think we really dodged a bullet there with Susan Monterez being taken out of the cdc. And she was somebody who was at Barda and ARPA H and very focused on MRNA plus AI.

And we know that Trump was pushing that, unlike his first day in office with Stargate. He had Larry Ellison there saying, yeah, we’re going to do an AI assessment of you and we’ll custom make an MRNA thing there. So I was very concerned as to what was going to happen there. And of course that’s created a lot of pushback against rfk. And they said, well, you just fired her because of a, a personal disagreement or something, you know, insubordination, because he wanted some of these other people fired. And she said, no, no, I’m not going to fire them.

And so he fired her. What do you know about that? Do you think that. That he gets that, that he’s pushing back against the MRNA that’s basically being put out there for everything. I mean, we had at USDA with this administration, with the Trump administration, we had Brooke Rollins, who was with all this bird flu insanity in the mass culling of chickens. So that was happening with Biden. Her big solution was, well, we’ll give the MRNA bird flu shot to all the chickens and then that’ll be fine. And also to the chick, to the cattle, and to the pigs as well, all of our food supply.

And so she has the authority to approve that for agricultural issues. But on the other side, the MRNA things that are there, especially when you combine it with artificial intelligence. Very, very concerning. What do you know about the. What’s going on with Monterey’s and the rest of the stuff? When you talk about Deep State, I mean, that’s what I think of as Barda and ARPA H and these insidious programs that are out there. It seems like there’s a lot of people in the Trump administration. Trump is working with Larry Ellison and of course, Brook Rollins is in on all that as well.

What’s your take on that? Well, not, you know, not all that litters is gold, even in hhs. And so, you know, the. By Susan Monterez being fired and then other, you know, CDC officials taking their toys and going home. I mean, they did us a huge favor. Yeah. You know, they needed to be fired anyway. So it was like, okay, you know, don’t let you. Don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out. So we were, you know, we were very, very fortunate to. That there has to be more of a mass exodus of these individuals because MRNA technology is sort of this new play toy.

Yeah. And scientists think, oh, well, it’s plug and play. We can, we can just, you know, program AI to tell us what the next path pathogen is. And they have this buzzword that they’re hiding behind called universal vaccination. And so when you look at the buzzword universal vaccination, even J. Bhattacharya put it out in a memo talking about a new vaccine platform. It was MRNA written all over it. That needs to go, you know, I’ve already, you know, emailed him directly and said, you know what? Universal vaccination is code word for gain of function. And so that means that you’re weaponizing and you’re basically giving Permission for scientists in the NIH to weaponize H5N1, to weaponize SARS, CoV2 or whatever, monkeypox, so they can have the pathogen du jour.

And if that leaks out, then that’s the whole pandemic that Foushee is sitting on the edge of his seat waiting for so he can somehow swoop in and save the day again. But these are bad. These are horrible technologies. Nobody has talked about innate immune suppression. That happens when you get MRNA shots. Nobody’s talked about the effect of the lipid nanoparticle on the immune system. And I think you. Excuse me, I think you mentioned that at the very beginning. I remember in the fall of 2020, when they were talking about it, there was an article, and I think it was you that was involved in it, that questioned the idea of this pegylation, the PEG encapsulation.

And you said, this is going to create anaphylactic shock. And I’ve told this to people many times. I said, they told you to. You contacted the FDA in and said, no, we don’t care about it. Contact Pfizer. Of course, Pfizer doesn’t care if the FDA doesn’t care. That was you, I think, at Children’s Health Defense, was it? It was Children’s Health Defense, and I was working with a distinguished colleague, Lynn Redwood, on that. And it turns out that because of exposure to PEG, 75% of the population in the United States carries PEG antibodies. And so that means.

And you know that. And. And many people did go into anaphylaxis and, you know, sudden anaphylactic shock, shock after getting the jab. And so, you know, it was predictable. It was highly predictable. Why would you coat, you know, this lipid nanoparticle with a known allergen? You know, it’s a recipe for disaster, but it’s convenient. People say, oh, well, you know, you have immune reactions all the time. They frankly didn’t really care. They didn’t want to do the experimentation. They just wanted to roll out a vaccine. And they were paid handsomely to the tune of about $250 billion over the course of the pandemic in sales of those shots.

Yeah. Amazing how many billionaires they coined with that. But it just shows the utter disregard for safety and health that exists in these institutions and these corporations. I’ve got a question here from Flower Sower. Thank you for the tip, Flower sower. Please ask Dr. Hooker when children’s Health Defense is going to pursue and promote removing the protection the pharmaceutical industry Hides behind with the 1986 Act. Why isn’t this a priority for CHD? She asked. Well, I am so grateful for that question because, because we are working on it. We’re working with key legislators that we can’t name right now on, you know, being able to abolish the 1986 Act.

We’re also working with HHS who is trying to re envision the act. I mean, frankly, my own opinion is that it just needs to go, that it needs to go away. And then we need, we need guardrails for protection of families of vaccine injured kids. We need at least a one time look back for those that were denied justice, especially around the omnibus autism proceedings. My family, and this is why I fight this. My family was in vaccine court for 16 years. We filed our claim in May of 2002 and we did not get a decision and we were not allowed to even go to oral arguments because of a sort of a vendetta I believe that our special master had against our expert witnesses, you know, regarding the toxicity of mercury.

You know, my son got a full wallop of mercury from his vaccines that never should have been in there. And arguably mercury does cause neurodevelopmental disorders. Oh yeah. And so we were never, never given our day in court. There are thousands upon thousands of families just like that and they all need justice, they all need their day in court. They were promised that by the 7th amendment and the 14th amendment and they were never given it. And that’s one of the things that was the key aha moment for me when I found out about the 1986 act.

Very important. That’s why, you know, I’ve talked many times about Dr. Andrew Wakefield’s movie 1986. The Act, I think is the name of it. And it’s a dramatization of how it affects a family. When you do something like that, basically that shows what this is truly all about. And that should be the moment. I think we need to spread the news far and wide. If we can’t stop this, if people at least understand that they have absolutely no liability and that as we said before, if somebody had you got a crib and you might have one or two freak accidents with that crib, they recall all of them and massive fines for the manufacturers, but nothing for this.

No matter how many people they kill, it’s absolutely amazing the damage that they’re allowed to get away with it. And that is that type of stuff that, you know, I look at and it’s like, okay, I know what’s going on here. That’s how I make my decision decisions. But it’s always good to have a scientist who’s going to go through and tell people what the mechanisms are to get them to understand that. You know, there was just a recent article on Reason. I haven’t covered it on the show yet, but I was absolutely stunned to see this article from Reason saying, well, we were told we’re all going to die and look, I’m still alive.

I got the vaccine. I know a lot of people got the vaccine and they’re still alive. And again, this is another one of the issues. Why when you have the COVID index science, it’s good to have the truth that is out there. We had a lot of people who made predictions, said everybody that got this vaccine is going to be dead within a year or so. A guy that I used to work for said that. And that is making the. That is essentially an alibi for these people because they can point to that exaggeration and say that didn’t work.

And of course, when reason looks at this, they should know know first of all that the statistics are being suppressed. They’re being lied to about it. They understand that. They see that all the time, whether you’re talking about unemployment figures or we’re talking about inflation figures. They know the government lies with statistics. They should expect that the government is going to lie with statistics about this when they rush something to market. But the other part of it is the individual variation that we see from person to person. But there’s the third thing I wanted to ask you about and that is there was research that was done by Naomi Wolf and they went through and looked at the different batches.

I remember at the very beginning of this, again, back in August, September, the CDC was putting out information about a form that they wanted the health providers to collect information on about the vaccine. And so they wanted all your personal information, your address and so forth and so on. And the only other thing they kept about the vaccine was the lot number. And I talked about that at the time because I said it’s kind of ominous that they get all this personal information. And there’s a box there that says refused. I said, what are they going to do with that? And so I said, you know, be aware of that.

That’s there that you know they’re going to keep a record of you if you refuse. But they kept the lot information. And she went back in her research and they found a tremendous variation. I think it was like 30 fold from the least to the most active ingredients that were in there. Is that something you’re aware of? Is that something that is still going on? It is still going on. And lot to lot variability with this type of technology is, you know, very, very, you know, the margins for error are really, really large. And that’s not something you want to see in anything that you would put in your body.

We saw that, you know, the first batches that were rolled out had so many adverse events that you know, maybe 80,000, 60,000 would be distributed and then they would quietly pull them off the market and not tell anybody that that was a hot lot. And you can actually go, you know, to a tracking site that tracks the adverse events on vaers and just Google how bad is my batch? And that will tell you what adverse events have been reported for that particular batch of vaccines. That’s the lot information that you need. And we know that historically, lots and lots of vaccines, not just the COVID shot, have been subject to, to this level of poor biotechnology processing.

You look at the Merck MMR vaccine, MMR2, that was introduced, I believe in the United states in about 1978, nobody knows the exact concentration of virus in that vaccine. Nobody has ever really done the quality control. And so the lot to lot variability is very, very, very high. And the only thing that we do know because of whistleblowers that have come out of Merck, is that the maximum concentration of virus in that vaccine is much, much higher than what the FDA ever approved. And so it’s another grand medical experiment. And we know when that happened. It happened in 1999.

They started doing a process called overfilling the batches and boosting of virus concentrations. That’s when anaphylactic shock really started in earnest and death really started in earnest for the MMR vaccines after they boosted those virus concentrations. You can see it clear as the nose on your face if you do a VAERS analysis. Wow. And that’s the other thing too, you know, besides the fact they don’t have any liability, so they don’t have to care. It’s just the lackadaisical, haphazard attitude of this, of all things. Medicines and pharmaceuticals that are very concentrated, they are carefully controlled in terms of the amounts of whatever that it is that you’re getting.

I always looked at that and I kind of thought, Dr. Hooker, that maybe what they were doing was, that was maybe part of the experiment, you know, experimenting on everybody. Because when you’re trying to roll out something, you’re trying to find the sweet spot between Something that is going to, to be toxic because it’s too much, and something’s going to be ineffective because it’s too little. I said it looks to me like a massive experiment to play around with people, but it’s just absolute disregard for any standards of safety or medicine that’s there. Really. It is, it is abysmal.

And when you look at the level of contamination in biologics, you know, FDA is separated into two divisions, two main divisions or centers. There’s the centers for Drugs Evaluation and research and then the center of Biologics Evaluation and research. It’s called cber. But historically, those biotech drugs, they come from a soup that has been fermented with a particular genetically modified organism. A lot of times, times it’s E. Coli that is involved in that. So you get carryover of E. Coli proteins, you get carryover of yeast proteins, you get carryover of foreign DNA, and in the case of the MRNA jabs, then you have carryover of virus particles like SV40.

And SV40, we know causes cancer. It is known to be carcinogenic. Yeah, just awful. I’ve got a couple of questions here, several questions, as a matter of fact. In the audience, Jerry Alitalo says, please ask Dr. Hooker how he feels about ENF A K Y I L D I Z Public admission that Covid MRNA injections are nanoscale machines programmed for human injection. I don’t know who that individual is. Are you familiar with his work and that statement? No. How do you think I’m not familiar with the work? But you know, I will say I, I have not observed this directly.

I obtained some of the MRNA technology shots myself, examined them under the microscope, you know, just use face contrast microscopy to see what I could find, and then tried to incubate it over a period of time at physiological temperature. And the backs that I saw did not have that in it. I’m not saying that it doesn’t because again, you know, David, nothing surprises me anymore when I see the things that the government has gotten away with and knowingly gotten away with with, you know, with horrible poisons that should have never been introduced. Like Remdesivir. Remdesivir killed the organs that caused the lungs to fill up with fluid and then the patients had to be intubated to force the fluid out of the lungs because the tissue in the lungs was dying.

So so many different things have been foisted. Is that, is that technology readily available and off the shelf? Oh, most definitely. Most definitely. They could do that. Did they do it. That’s something I’m still investigating and I honestly do not know. Let me ask you this. This is something else I covered. I remember when it happened in Japan, they had two different batches of over a million each. It’s like one was a million, the other was like 1.2 million of these Pfizer or Moderna MRNA things. And they noticed that there were black particulates in it. And they also noticed that they interacted with magnets and they threw all of them away.

And that was briefly reported and then disappeared. And I was just wondering, are you familiar with that? Could you verify that, that that happened? Anything? I know individuals that you could do that experiment on and you know, at the injection site. And it was magnetic. What I make of that? Was there, you know, were there magnetic particles in the vaccine? Yeah, the technology exists. So it is it. We need all of the documentation of Pfizer. There’s a big, big reason why Pfizer wanted to steal those records for 76 years. Yeah. Because, you know, that is, you know, we’re going to find a witch’s brew in there.

Yes. And the connection with darpa. Yeah, connection with DARPA and Bard and everything right there, that’s that point is a witch’s brew of some sort. I was just wondering if maybe, you know, it showed up in Japan because of the long travel time. Maybe there was an issue with refrigeration because the unusual issue about how unusually cold it had to be kept. But it’s also, it seems like the Japanese are a little bit more open and honest about some of these things. They were the first ones to report about the biodistribution issues. And that was something that people reported on that got severely punished in the west.

But they reported it in Japan. Exactly. I’m thankful for that information because we didn’t know the biodistribution. We were told lies. And I think that they were bold face lies. I don’t think that they were just mistakes or misspeaking. I think those people had the distribution. They did animal studies. Surely they had the distribution information at that time. In fact, what was leaked in Japan was a Pfizer document. Yes, yes. Got another question here From Karen Carpenter, 27 with Knights of the Storm. She says question, Please comment on Susan Monterrez and the vaccine safety data link.

Is the VSD accessible for studies? That is a horrible mess. And I think that we need to apply pressure on hhs. I think we need to apply pressure on Congress to open up the vaccine safety data link. The vaccine Safety data link is a ongoing record of about 10 million patients enrolled in 10 different HMOs. It’s all de identified, anonymized, so you can’t figure out what patient is what. You can’t get any type of IP, any information from that. But the Dr. Daskalakis, I forget his first name, he hid, literally hid and then bragged about hiding the vaccine safety data link from Secretary Kennedy for the first seven months that Secretary Kennedy was in office.

And then Dr. Daskalakis then ended up resigning in protest with Montereyz that now we know it’s there, now we know that the vaccine safety data link is there, but there are contractual hiccups that keep anybody from getting data. From 2002 on, we do not have that information and we need to demand that information because, you know, there’s so many different things. There are so many different vaccines that were introduced that have never been adequately studied. There are even, even unvaccinated individuals in the vaccine safety data link because it’s not required. The patient enrollment doesn’t require vaccination.

So I know they have tens of thousands of records for individuals that have never seen a vaccine. So we need all that information. Monterey was hiding it. Daskalakis was hiding it. Should go to jail. And now they. The head of the immunization safety office, I believe his name is Mike McNeil, is stonewalling to allow Secretary Kennedy and his advisors to get access to that data. Again, it’s deep state gurus that have been there forever. They’re hiding this information. It needs to come open. Well, again, it’s the sort of thing in another field that I was working in, we were trying to get Climate data from Dr.

Michael Mann and it was something that he had done at a public university on their work computers and he had published the information and it had been used to create public policy, but he absolutely refused to show us the data. You know, when I see something like that same type of thing that we’re seeing with Susan Monorez and the CDC doing, trying to hide this vaccine safety data, that is an admission of guilt and it’s a admission, you know, science is not on your side. If you are afraid to show people the data and you just want them to do what you say because the position you’re in, that is the antithesis of science.

I’ve got another question here from Guard Goldsmith of Liberty Conspiracy said, I wonder if the doctor has any knowledge of breakthroughs for long Covid I still search finding some interesting hope. What do you think about that? I, you know, I am not a practitioner and I know many, many good practitioners that are starting to have breakthroughs using different cocktails of antivirals, anti parasitics and antibiotics. That, you know, that’s where I’m hearing the success. There are also, you know, and, and David, I thought I’d never hear myself saying this. There are also individuals that are using hypochlorite, hypochlorous solutions.

It’s not bleach. Everybody says, oh, it’s bleach. No, these are very, very dilute, very, very safe solutions. And they’re doing nasal lavage on patients. That is helping clear the virus, that’s helping clear the spike. And then there are myriad sort of recipes. Homeopathy is, you know, I’m hearing from those practicing naturopaths and homeopaths are having really, really good success with long Covid and COVID vaccine injury. So, you know, follow the rule. That trial, try it, do one thing at a time, see if it works. If it doesn’t work, ditch it and move on to the next thing.

I mean, you know, because you shouldn’t suffer. We’ve brought my son a tremendous amount of way with his vaccine injury that he sustained at 15 months. And my house is the house of many clinical trials, whether it’s allopathic, whether it’s naturopathic, you know, where it comes from. You know, I honestly don’t care if it’s a effective, you need to use it and if it’s not effective, then move on. I agree, I look at it and if it’s something that is not going to be harmful, you know, I’ll try it. You know, how much does it cost? I’ll buy it.

Going back to the old song from 1970s, let me ask you about what’s going on with autism because I know that you spend a lot of time with autism focusing on that. I’m looking at this Tylenol thing. To me it looks like a red herring and it looks like they’re trying to dodge the connection for the vaccine stuff. What is your take on that? I mean, I just don’t see that Tylenol has correspondent uptake in. Tylenol has changed radically. That would explain the radical change in autism. I just don’t buy that at all. What do you think about that? What do you think is that? Well, I think, you know, I’ve done a lot of research, research on this and spent a lot of time with the lead researcher in that whole field of acetaminophen neurodevelopmental.

Disorders and autism. His name is William Parker. You know, I actually sat down with him for five days and said, look, convince me, you know, because he was hounding me about this. And so the. The thing that’s really convenient about Tylenol is that that it is a quick solution to a not so quick problem. And I think that, yeah, there are cases that are definitely associated with some type of infection, some type of vaccination, followed by acetaminophen, definitely sort of a one, two punch. But Tylenol itself is a necessary component, but it’s not sufficient. You can’t just say, oh, you know, Tylenol is bad.

It is the individuals that have genetic susceptibility that then have a huge amount of oxidative stress, like multiple vaccines, all at the same time. And then you add Tylenol to the mix. That’s really the perfect storm. So you can’t just take care of one and say, oh, we’ve broken the chain. All of them need to be taken care of. All of them need need to be addressed. I think that the administration came out with regarding Tylenol because they thought it’s an easy fix, but, you know, it is. We didn’t get here just from Tylenol. We got here from years of abuse of the system, and that needs to be fixed.

And then we can see the autism epidemic go away. That’s good. Yeah. I feel like, you know, when you look at this, it seemed to coincide with a rapid escalation of the vaccine schedule. What is going on with that? You know, what is happening with that? I know you were involved with the measles issue, you know, where they said a couple people died in Texas and you investigated that with the families. I know the media is still selling that narrative. I think you effectively debunked that that was what had happened there. Yeah, yeah. They died of bacterial pneumonia that was left untreated.

Yes. But I’m still seeing mainstream articles say, oh, it killed two people and so forth. And, you know, so what are the chances of us pulling back on this vaccine schedule? I know that it’s tremendous support within the bureaucracy and the corporations and the media, and I guess that’s another part of it. What’s going to happen with the ads, the issue with that? I know that RFK Jr has talked about that. Well, my hope is that, you know, direct to consumer pharmaceutical advertising will go by the wayside. I mean, it’s gotten ridiculous. It is absolutely, you know, inane.

I watch news and old people tv. So, you know, my My wife is a serial addict to the Hallmark Channel. And so it’s. It’s all the drugs, biologics, and vaccines that you can push on old people. Yeah. You know, every day, every ad, it is very infrequent that you see anything else. And so those need to be pulled. They. And, And I believe that Secretary Kennedy is working stepwise to get there. I believe that they’re de facto fraudulent, you know, in the sense that, you know, ask your doctor. Well, you’re not. You don’t understand that they’re not giving you all the information that you need to make an informed decision.

And so it is really fraudulent what they are putting out there. Even if they have somebody rattling off very rapidly all the adverse effects that they are going to talk about is still not sufficient to be truthful, I think. No, no. It doesn’t tell you how effective that particular therapy is. It doesn’t tell you how effective the vaccine is at preventing that particular disease. I mean, we see, you know, over and over again rsv, shingles, pneumonia, pneumonia, you know, flu, over and over again. But they don’t. You know, the dirty little secret is some years that the.

When you get the flu shot, you’re more likely to get the flu than if you didn’t get the flu shot. Oh, yeah. And so, you know, they. They’ve seen that over and over again almost pretty much every year. People who get it, they get it right away. Yeah. And. And we know individuals that get the trivalent. The quadrivalent flu shot. Got them for their babies, and the babies died within hours. I mean, we’re investigating several cases of SIDS right now that were the quadrivalent flu shot. Wow. And it’s just. It’s such a shame, you know, when you see these babies die.

Yes. And then, you know, the entire system is there to cover it up. We want to be able to expose it. That’s just horrific. Yeah. I’ve played a clip several times of a lady that. That was on social media, and she said it wasn’t until she saw the sudden adult death syndrome stuff that was out there that it clicked with her. And she said, I killed my baby. And I said so many times, I wish I could talk to her. She didn’t kill her baby. It’s people who lied to her, people who knew better who killed her baby for money.

That’s the saddest thing about it. I got a couple more comments here. Real Jason Barker with Knights of the Storm said the CDC took down the publicly available tools that show excess death Spikes after the vaccine rollout. That’s very damning info right there in reply to person who said I can’t even get the excess death statistics anymore. I could in 2022 for every year since it started to be recorded. What’s going on with that and do you have that information there at CovidIndex Science that has been pulled down and I believe that that’s addressed in Covid Index science.

We do not have the new data regarding excess deaths. And it is weird because I published on excess deaths in dmad, the Department of Defense Medical Epidemiological Database. I published on excess deaths in 2022 from, you know, from the rollout of the vaccine and all of a sudden all this stuff just dried up. CDC was no longer reporting excess deaths on their website. There’s so many show games on. You know, you go to the national center for Health Statistics they never, they never say flu deaths, they always say influenza and pneumonia. They combine those two categories so people will get scared and get their flu shots even though they’re not effective at preventing death, preventing serious illness and many times not even effective at had during the flu.

So yeah, a lot of those databases are pulled down. I do encourage any and everybody to FOIA the CDC for specific information. It’s as simple as an email, just you know, FOIA requestdc.gov FOIA requestdc.gov you know, put very concise language of what you want, limit the ask to specific information and then by law they have to respond to you within 30 days. Yeah, I remember when they did that with the Defense Department’s database of D Med stuff. I remember some doctors that saw how things were exploding in a lot of different areas and their absurd reply was well, not that there was something going on with the vaccine but they went back and they looked at it and they compared it over five years.

They said well all of our data for five years is wrong. And it’s like come on. And then the next thing you know they pulled it all down. I mean if this isn’t the most juvenile cover up, it’s just absolutely amazing. It would be comical if it wasn’t so horrific what it’s doing to people’s lives. I’ve got, let’s see. Bulldog says they could have very specifically targeted people by lot number. Yeah, they could. SG Sutton, can Dr. Hooker tell us about the volunteer opportunity with the COVID index? Oh that is so good. That is such a great question.

If you look at the COVID Index science there is a box that you can click on to volunteer. And these volunteers, they’re basically individuals that go out and they get new information, newly published information for the COVID Index. They curate it. You know, it’s very, very simple. You fill out a very, very simple form and then once you filled out that form, then it goes to a very small committee and then they give you thumbs up or thumbs down, like, oh, yeah, this should go on the COVID index. About 95% of it does go into the index.

But that helps us keep it up to date. We have an army of volunteers that does that and we’re recruiting more volunteers. You get free Covid Index merch. You get free CHD merch. And we love our volunteers. We want, I mean there’s, I know there’s a lot of people out there that want to help. They’re really studious and nerdy like me, and they like to read this literature. And so, you know, if that is your vibe, if that’s the thing that you’d like to do, make sure that you check out that volunteer opportunities tab on Covid Index Science.

That’s great. That’s great. And again, yeah, Covid Index Science. And they have, I guess most of them are one minute videos that you can just very easily click on a thing and share it on social media. Get this information around. That’s the most important thing. People are not informed or they’re misinformed about what’s going on here. And so it’s very important to put, get those videos that they put together out there. I got one. One more question here from Karen Carpenter with Knights of the storm says, does Dr. Hooker think that ultrasound and Wi Fi EMF could play a role in autism? What do you think about that? I absolutely believe that it plays a role in autism.

A lot of autism researchers have looked into this and they find statistically significant correlations with EMF. You know, there was very little reason for 5G. 5G is basically there for surveillance purposes. So the. Not. Not so you can have better Internet, but so the government can know more about you. And so you look at all these, you know, new technologies, the Internet of things. So, you know, my phone can talk to my computer, my refrigerator and you know, my ironing board or whatever, uh, that is producing energetic signals. It’s producing energetic signals in the IR range, in the, you know, in the microwave range.

And that is bad for you. I mean, there’s nothing good about it. I mean, if I had my choice, my, my, my own house would be hardwired. Yeah, but what we do is we Turn off our devices and WI fi at night and have just like an old clock that it tells us, the one that you have to change during daylight savings time and just tells us what time it is. You know, just sleep with it off. Sleep. Just. Just start with turning your WI fi off. Because there is a connection. I don’t believe that it’s completely causal, but there is a connection with WI fi and with excitatory, excited, toxic processes in the brain.

And you don’t want to stimulate that. I agree. I mean, when I was going back trying to do some research on Moncef Slaoui, I found all these different conferences that he was speaking at, Fauci was speaking at, and Francis Collins was speaking at, and they were all talking about electroceuticals. And I thought, well, this is going to be the next big thing, electroceuticals. And it’s like, okay, well, if you’re going to treat people electrically with things like that, then clearly EMF is going to have a big effect on people. Yeah, it’s a tacit admission, isn’t it? Yeah, EMF does have an effect.

If we can manipulate it to, you know, do, you know, some type of medical intervention, then what is it doing every day? Yes, exactly. And, you know, we had Alan Fry, who worked for the Navy, doing experiments, and he documented the Fry effect, which you can. Certain frequencies, you’ll hear it like a clicking type of thing. You know, just like we had, you know, the military discovered microwave cooking, you know, the radar ranges of Amana in the early days. You know, they just notice that their coffee was getting hot. Well, if you see something like that, there’s a little bit of smoke there.

There’s got to be a fire there somewhere as well. I think I started looking at that in conjunction with the Havana effect that was out there because people were saying they were hearing a clicking stuff, and so like, oh, wait a minute, that sounds like the Fry effect. Maybe that is some kind of directed emf. Not sure. And I got another question here. We’re just about out of time. This is from Jerry Alitalo. He says, please ask Dr. Hooker how he felt immediately after listening closely to DARPA associated neuroscientist James Gandaro’s horrifying public lectures. Thank you.

You know, that one stumped me. I know of those lectures. I just don’t know enough about those lectures. I apologize. I should know this information. My defense is that we’re playing whack a mole with everything right now. That’s right. There’s so many. I mean, these people have billion dollar budgets and they’re constantly coming up with one bizarre Frankenstein experiment after the other. It truly is a scary situation that we find ourselves in this particular time. It is an interesting time and it is a very dangerous time. But thank you so much for the work that you do at Children’s Health Defense and for the COVID Index science.

Thank you, Dr. Hooker. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Sa. Sa. Well, welcome back. And our guest is Alex Newman, senior editor of the New American award winning international journalist, educator, author, speaker, nationally syndicated radio host and consulting consultant. He’s an award winning international journalist, educator and consultant. So we’ve had him on many times talking mainly about education, but we always get him on every year he goes to wherever they have these cop things. We’re now up to number 30 and this time we covered the, the road that they were building for the elites to go down and cutting down massive numbers of trees.

I don’t. What was it, a hundred thousand? Alex, what they cut down with those trees? Yeah, that’s the number I heard as well. Yep. But now, you know, they have. These people are constantly flipping their story and it used to be that trees were our salvation and you would pay an indulgence to pollute so they could plant a tree somewhere. But now Bill Gates wants all the trees cut down, not used for anything, but buried in the ground because they’re going to release all that carbon that they have absorbed. This is the most insane thing I’ve ever seen, but there’s a lot of insanity with that.

Did you get to go down that road? Well, we wasn’t ready yet, so nobody was able to go down it except, you know, the machinery that was building it. But it was quite the story. You know, they literally cut down an enormous swath of the rainforest, protected, virgin rainforest this was supposed to protect, be untouchable. And they decided that, hey, we’ve got a climate summit coming in. The city’s not very nice, the traffic’s horrendous. So why don’t we build these people some nice new roads so they don’t have to, you know, mingle with the riff raff and wait in the traffic like the rest of the suckers.

And unfortunately for the suckers, they actually didn’t finish the road in time for the climate summit, which is very typical of the socialist towers. And that’s our salvation. These people can’t build anything, not even a road in time. They all this for the vent and then they missed the time window. There they were very embarrassed about it, David. They actually put out military and police to try to guard this so people couldn’t get to it. We rented a car and we snuck through the rainforest in the middle of the night very, very late so that we would be able to get through there.

We actually had to go all the way out past where there’s cell service, past where there was even GPS reception, which I don’t even know how that works, but we did finally find it. And we found one of the local residents that lived in the jungle, and he was very upset. He said, we don’t need this stupid road. What we need is water and electricity, please. Yeah, we need water and electricity. But they’re building AI data centers. That’s what we get over here. Because now we don’t. They don’t care about energy usage or heat generated as long as it’s for AI, because that’s going to give them their control over us.

But tell us what else you saw there. I mean, a lot of people are saying after Bill Gates moved back, they’re saying, well, you know, this is it. These, these people have basically played out all their lies and they’re on the run. Do you see that, or does it look like these people are going to still keep coming? I think they’re going to keep coming. What do you think? No question about it, David. I was going to say that all of this reporting, we even saw some of it in the fake media. Oh, the climate thing was a failure.

Nothing to see here. Go back to your regularly scheduled foot football games. There’s nothing to worry about. You know, Bill Gates says it’s over. And I think Bill Gates just made a strategic decision. Like you said, he needs AI data centers to enslave humanity more than he needs the climate hoax at this particular moment. But the idea that they’re going to give up the climate hoax is utterly ludicrous. They actually did get an agreement this year. You know, the Trump administration boycotted it. State Department told us it was because the conference was designed to bankrupt the United States and we weren’t going to participate.

But there was a lot in the final agreement, David. One of the things they got in there was the carbon budget for humanity. It turns out there is a carbon budget that we can be allowed to emit. And this is crazy, David. They got this in the final tax agreed to by every government in the world. We’ve already gone through four fifths of it, and most of that has come from the United States and Europe and the West. And so what’s left? The 1/5 of the carbon budget that we still have left needs to be allocated to the mass murdering dictatorship in communist China and the Indian government and the Brazilians and the South Africans and so on.

So the biggest polluters on Earth. Yeah, that’s right. And prepare to have your CO2 emissions rationed slaves because that’s coming down the pike. They got the infrastructure in there to eventually create the enforcement mechanism. They went into this with the Marxist would be dictator of Brazil, Lula, saying that he wanted to create an enforcement body. He was to calling it the Global Environmental Council. They didn’t get that, but they got all of the metrics and tools and monitoring frameworks that they’ll need to be able to get that going forward. So that was big progress. And there was also a lot of side agreements, David.

A whole bunch of us allies got together and signed a declaration on information integrity basically promising to work together to censor us. They got more than half of the governments agreed to create a fossil fuel fuel phase out roadmap. So they’ll be having the first meeting for that in Colombia in April. And then for me, one of the biggest takeaways, David, it always is and nobody ever pays attention to this is the religious angle. This conference to me was the place where it was most clear. And I’ve been going to these for 15 years. We’re watching here an attempt to repaganize the world.

The basically the paradigm, David, is Christianity is to blame for the environmental and ecological catastrophe because Christianity holds that man is made in the image of God, that the planet is here for our benefit, that we are called in Genesis to take dominion of the planet and its animals and things like this for our benefit and for the glory of God. That’s the reason why Mother Earth is suffering so much. And so they paraded, I mean literally an endless parade of Native American pagans, you know, a lot of them from the rainforest. That’s why they held it in the rainforest, who came to enlighten all the delegates about how Mother Earth is angry at us for our CO2 emissions and we need to go back to appeasing the forest spirits and the river spirits and the rock spirits.

And we do that by basically repaganizing the world and cleansing it of Christian civilization. So this was a very, very, very significant motif throughout this conference. And I think it’s one of the big takeaways. You know, it’s been that way for a while and we’ve had again, they’re making it, you know, Keep propagating this. But we’ve had bits and pieces of this. Remember Jennifer Lawrence, the actress was very serious about Mother Earth being upset with us, though. You know, we had some natural disasters or something like that. They take that very seriously. The Gaia theory, that was done by James Lovelock.

I remember we were in the UK in 2001 and it was everywhere. It was, you know, science magazines we saw left behind on the train from people. It was all over that. And I took the kids to a children’s museum and they had this loop playing that was saying that, you know, Gaia, Mother Earth is this sentient being and that humans are like a virus and so therefore we need to be exterminated. Right? And so that that type of thing has been going for quite some time now. Interestingly enough, Lovelock, who came up with that analogy based on pagan religion, Gaia, Mother Earth, he has now moved back away from that.

He’s now recanted that. But these people are doubling down and going on with it. And it is a religion and they pursue it religiously. You know, that is the worldview in which they frame everything. You know, I think, Alex, I think what is going on, the way my take on all this, I want to see what you think about this. I think one of the reasons that they’re pulling back on this is because they’ve got to get the infrastructure in with AI and they’ve got to get the infrastructure in with digital money. You know, not cbdc, but they’ll be doing it through, through stablecoins.

That’ll give them the same kind of control and, you know, being able to observe everything that we do and control and prevent us from making certain transactions. I think they got to get that infrastructure in. And so they’re going to wait and do that and then they will roll in, come back to the population control stuff. And it is population control in every aspect of it, making sure they don’t have as many people. But then the people that are there, they want to control every aspect of our life. What do you think about that? Did you see stuff there about C40, for example, the thing that was put together by Sadiq Khan and Bloomberg.

When I saw all the angst about Mom, Danny and everything, I thought, well, we’ve already had a Muslim mayor and a communist in London and New York putting out this prescription for how they’re going to ration our lives to us. They call it C40 initiative. So I didn’t really see that anything was different about that. But what do you think what do you think in terms of why they have stepped back away from this climate MacGuffin? And I think they’re going to step back into it once they get these tools in place. Yeah. My take, David, is that they realize that the bitter clingers in America are not going for it.

You know, they’ve done the polling. I’ve seen the polling results. They know the majority of Americans don’t even believe that human activity is responsible for climate change. And then when you drill down even further, even the people who believe, even the Kool Aid drinkers don’t care enough to actually do anything. There was an interesting poll by AP Newark center for Public Affairs. Less than one third of Americans were willing to pay one single, solitary US Dollar on their monthly electric bill to fight climate change. Okay? That’s how little Americans care, even the ones who are dumb enough to fall for this.

So their strategy was really clear to me, David. They’re working through a variety of institutions. Institutions, but education is one of the critical ones. UNESCO had a big, big, big event there. They called it Greening Education. They partnered with the Marxist Brazilian government and the oecd, and they talked about how we are going to brainwash the children in every single country to believe this. And it’s not going to be optional. Right. You’re going to include it in your nationally determined contributions, your NDCs that you got to update every five years under Paris, they’re going to be including what they call climate literacy on the international standardized assessments, the pisa, as it’s called.

Pisa. And so basically, if your government isn’t brainwashing the little ones to believe that we’re all doomed from climate change and that they need to become climate activists, you’re going to look stupid, right, when you come out on these international assessments. So they were saying this openly, the top officials at UNESCO, the UN Education Agency. So I think that’s their plan. You’re right. The data centers and the AI is a critical component of this. They can’t restructure, structure the whole economy around carbon credits and your carbon footprint until they’ve got the computing power and the data to go with the computing power that makes this all trackable.

And then you got to combine it with the social credit scores. So you’re right. The AI and the data centers are a precursor to the ultimate flip. But they are 100% committed to this. I think the only reason it wasn’t covered in the American media is because they now know the. The more we talk about this, the more angry Americans get, the more likely they are to call their congressman and demand an end to all this foolishness. So I think that’s where they’re going. But, you know, to go back to the religion thing for a moment.

The first time I saw the paganism, I was just a young whippersnapper journalist fresh out of journalism school. It was in Cancun. The head of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, Cristiana Figueres, opened up with a prayer to Ixchel, whom she described as the goddess of terror, tapestries and creativity. I’m dead serious. She opens up and says, we need to pray to Ixchel that she’ll give us the wisdom and creativity to create a creative tapestry of climate solutions for this crisis. Whatever. So I whip out my laptop and look up this Eeks shell and she’s the goddess of cannibalism and war and human sacrifice.

Oh, there you go. It was a. Not just basket weaving, right? No, it was a prayer. We’ve got to get rid of the disease of on this planet, which is humanity. And so, you know, they’ve been set back by the fact that nobody believes them, but they’re going to go for our kids, they’re going to go for our churches, and they will be back with a vengeance as soon as enough of the older population dies off and they’ve got enough of the younger dupes ready to move into positions of power. I agree. You’re talking about the oecd.

It’s almost like inserting education in the E of education, inserting that into ocd, obsessive compulsive disorder, because that’s what they’ve done with the kids. And they can get a sizable percentage of kids. If you start them from an early age, you can brainwash them into this stuff. That’s why they had that Gaia video running in the Children’s Museum. But, you know, when you talk about the religious side of it, I remember Pope Francis when he was first, first getting in this, one of his first things he did was a climate encyclical. And then he got people upset with him because he had that Packamama thing from Amazon.

I remember some people then threw it into the river there near the Vatican. But so was Packamama. Was that featured in this particular one in Brazil? I didn’t see Pacamama, but I did watch the Papacy very closely because, you know, Francis has now gone on to eternity. I don’t know what that looks like for him, but the new guy, I was like, well, let’s see, is he Going to continue the environment crusade, the environmental holy war. And sure enough, he doubled down on it. I mean, before the conference, I’m sure you saw the video of him blessing this big block of ice.

Might have been the weirdest ceremony I ever saw, except for the pagamama thing. But then he releases this. He’s got the biggest delegation ever at a climate summit, all these cardinals and bishops. And the Secretary of State gave the big opening speech on his behalf and he produced a video. And I mean, people should watch it. It was only like two and a half minutes. He’s like, to the religious people gathered in the Amazon to save the climate, keep it up. But we can’t just have hope, you know, now we got to have action and really, really blatant collaboration with paganism.

And you also had the Muslims there, which was really interesting too. You had one Muslim leader lecturing everybody about how Muhammad was really a great environmentalist because this one time he said, we shouldn’t drink all our water, we should conserve resources. And clearly he was a climate activist. You know, he even had a word for it. I forgot what, what the word was in Arabic. But they’re bringing all the religions of the world, and I say religions of the world in the evangelical, biblical sense. All the religions of the world are uniting behind this climate foolishness.

And you had organizations purporting to represent over a hundred Christian denominations there, a lot of them led, of course, by the Vatican. But this is dead serious and Americans aren’t seeing it. Yeah, they talk about climate justice and things like that, and yeah, it is amazing. So that’s all alive and well still with the religious people. And it’s becoming, as you point out, kind of a world religion where they can pull them all in. I wonder if it ever occurred to anybody that maybe what Mohammed was saying about conserving water was because they’re in the middle of the desert, right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

So what is the status with the Paris Climate Accord? I’ve talked about this over and over again. I was so disappointed because in many regards, even the first Trump administration, there was some very positive stuff in terms of pushing back against some radical environmentalism. And of course, we’ve seen some good moves in this one as well, for whatever reason. But one thing that they did not do was to just say that the climate accord was null and void. And it was null and void because if you remember, it was just John Kerry who said, yeah, Obama and I just self ratified it ourselves.

And so. And I say the Republicans are just as guilty of this, as the Democrats are, because I remember had, I can’t remember his name now. He had somebody that I’d worked with before in terms of climate stuff. And he said, what niece happen is the Republican Senate needs to come in and say, we’re going to have a vote on this presumed treaty. We’re going to put it up for a vote. There’s no way that it was going to get the 60% votes that it needed. So they needed to do that and so they could shut it down, but they never did.

And the fact that there was never a single Republican that pointed that out, that said, this is a bogus treatment treaty, it is null and void, it has no effect. And then throughout the entire Trump administration, they pretended that they couldn’t get out of it, because I think it was deliberately put in, saying, if you want to get out, you got to wait four years knowing that that’s the term of the American President. So this time they say, well, okay, he got out. And then Biden puts us back in immediately again, violating the idea of treaties.

And then when Trump gets in now, he’s going to get out. But since his the second time, he’s getting out now, according to the treaty, he only has to wait one year, but we’re waiting that year to get out. Have you seen that? Has the Trump administration ignored these principles? Have they done anything to violate the climate agreement, or are they still complying with it for this year? Yeah. So this is a really important subject, David, and I’m going to try to break it down as simply as possible. They make it needlessly complicated so that normal people and even people who follow these things closely can’t understand it.

So there’s an underlying treaty. This was approved back in 1992. It came out of the Earth Summit that was held in Rio de Janeiro in 1992. George H.W. bush signed it on behalf of America, and that’s where we got the Earth Charter. That’s where we got the Agenda 21. But we got this 1992 treaty that was called the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, which is very confusing because that’s also the name of the bureaucracy that’s in charge of implementing the treaty. So every year, these climate summits are hosted by the unfccc. It’s headquartered in Bonn, Germany.

And that treaty was, at least according to the Congressional Record, ratified by the US Senate. I’ve heard some legitimate questions about whether the ratification was legitimate, but 1992, the US Senate officially ratified this monstrous treaty that George H.W. bush. Mr. New World Order signed. And so each year they hold these annual climate summits. This was the 30th one, as you pointed out, the COP30. And each year they come up with a new agreement. And each year they like to pretend like they’re just going to tack that onto the back of the 1992 treaty. And so we don’t need the Senate to look at this again.

It’s just part of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, because this is the mechanism that they set up. And so every year comes and they try to take at least one giant leap forward on the climate scale, whether it’s, you know, set up a carbon market, set up a loss and damage fund, have the United States plead guilty for causing the climate crisis. So each year they take a big new jump into usurping more power, et cetera. Now, the Paris Agreement was one of these supplemental agreements. They did not treat it like a treaty. They treated it as just an addendum to the 1992 treaty.

So here’s where we’re at now. And I talked to a lot of people in the Trump administration about this, including, including at State, including at epa, to try to get a handle on what’s going on. And I’m told by multiple people who are very well informed, people who were very much involved in getting us out of the Paris Agreement the first time, that there are now discussions about the possibility of withdrawing from the unfccc. That would be, as far as I’m concerned, checkmate for the climate cult, at least as far as the United States is concerned.

But here’s the kicker. We’re not out of the unfccc. So we’re down in Brazil at this UN UN Climate Summit. And you’ve got some of the top globalist puppets at this summit, like Cristiano Figueres, who I mentioned earlier, former executive secretary of the unfccc, said it’s great that Trump didn’t come. You know, his administration would have just been a big obstacle. There would have been a big roadblock. We might not have even been able to pass these agreements by consensus, which is what they do. And so, frankly, it’s fantastic that Trump is not here. You had Jean Sue, a very prominent legal mind on this.

Right now. She’s with the center for Biological Diversity, but she’ll almost certainly work for the next Democrat regime when they get the White House again says, hey, this is fantastic that the Trump administration didn’t send anybody. We’re going to pass a super ambitious agreement. And then the US Is still in the unfccc. So as soon as Trump is gone and we get the next president in, this will all be binding on the United States and we’ll enforce it all on the United States. So that’s essentially the situation right now. Trump has his executive order on day one.

This was January 20, 2025. Putting America first in international environmental agreements did get us out of Paris. It did get us out of all of these subsequent agreements that have been tacked onto the back of the 1992 treaty. But as of right now, it’s only a temporary measure. As soon as we get a Democrat or a RINO Republican back in the White House, all they got to do is whip out their pen, say we’re back into all of it, and that’s what they’re planning. By the way, that’s what Gavin Newsom talked about. You know, Gavin Newsom and his hair showed up in the Amazon and said that, hey, don’t worry, we’re still in.

You know, Trump is an invasive species. He’s not a permanent fixture of American politics. As soon as he’s gone, we’ll be right back in. And by the way, in the meantime, me and most of the American population and most of the American economy are still part of this, right? California’s gonna keep implementing Paris and all the other ones. They have this coalition, it’s called, called We’re Still In. It’s mayors, governors, CEOs, and technically they’re correct. If you look at their jurisdictions, like State of California, you add them all together, they do have most of the American population, most American gdp, and they’re pretending like we’re still in all of these subsequent agreements that were added onto the back of the unfccc.

So I know that’s super confusing. That’s where we’re at. I just want to add one thing, David. I am not a lawyer, but I play one on tv. No, but I have read the Constitution and I think anybody is capable of reading the Constitution with, you know, third grade level of education and intelligence, you should be able to understand this. The Constitution does allow the President to sign and the Senate to approve of treaties which are binding on the United States of America. But there’s a big catch that nobody ever talks about. And most of the lawyers haven’t even read the Constitution, so they probably don’t even know this.

But if you go to Article 6 where it says that the statutes passed by Congress and the treaties are part of the supreme law of the land along with the Constitution, it says that they need to be made in pursuance thereof. So statutes and treaties that are made in pursuance thereof, in other words, that are made constitutionally. Show me where the Constitution grants the federal government the power to regulate my CO2 emissions. Show them where it grants me them the power to shut down my power plant or create new emission standards for my car. They don’t have that power.

If they want that power, they need to go to Article 5. There’s two different options there for passing a constitutional amendment. And this has been, by the way, very clear, very ironclad from the beginning of our republic. Thomas Jefferson explained, if the treaty power is boundless. In other words, if they could just grab new powers by signing a treaty, there’s no point in having a constitution. And we have. Even in 1957, the Supreme Court ruled in Reid vs. Covert. The federal government cannot grant itself new powers just by approving an international treaty. So as far as I’m concerned, the UNFCCC is totally illegitimate.

Federal government never had those powers and we need to treat it that way. It’s a usurpation. It’s null and void. As even Alexander Hamilton said in the Federalist Papers, this is a fraud. We have no obligation to obey this thing. I absolutely agree with you. And you know, I would say that what they’re trying to do with this is kind of akin to what they did with the authorization for the use of military force. So we’ve done this one thing. Now we can have wars without having a declaration or discussion or vote on it or whatever.

So now we got into this treaty once back in 1992, and now we can amend it and extend it and we can do all these different things that are in violation of the US Constitution and we never have to go back and relitigate this or re approve any of these treaties. I reject that. Just like I reject the authorization for the use of military force. But the point that you made is that these treaties cannot amend or suspend the US Constitution that is the controlling document. The problem is that we’ve let them get away with this in so many different areas.

You know, just like we were talking about the war on drugs and the way this has extended. I honestly, I think, Alex, they called it a war on drugs instead of prohibition because they don’t want people to think, well, wait a minute, we had prohibition. There was a constitutional amendment required for that with the 18th Amendment. So they play these games where they just assume these powers and then it’s up to you to stop it and to somehow stop it Using other levers of government as they continue to say that they have those powers when they don’t really have them.

That’s the whole fraud behind this. But it really is about. I agree with you 100%. Yep. It really is about power. It really is about depopulation. I mean, I remember when this whole thing started. I was in high school when they started, had the first Earth Day. And I remember it was all about depopulation. And my friends who bought into all this stuff, they were just constantly wringing their hands. There’s too many people. There’s too many people. There’s too many people. And Paul Ehrlich is out there. How do we get rid of people? Well, wars are good, but disease is even better, you know, and so we need to have all these different ways that we can kill people.

But the governments look at it and although they like to kill people, they like to control the people who are still alive as well. And so I think it really checks all the boxes for the people in power. It gets them exactly what they want. And of course it’s checked the boxes for a lot of people, made a lot of money off of this stuff. What does it look like they’re lining up to do now with this? What kind of financial schemes are they rolling out on the climate change front? Well, a lot of the governments of the world are moving ahead of this, ahead on this, without us for now.

Right. And the assumption is, as I just explained, they’re saying this openly. The assumption is that they’ll just impose this on the United States later. So they’ve got several really significant financial arrangements and they got a of lot of these into the COP. $31.3 trillion a year is the number that they put in the final agreement agreed to by consensus, by the way. The United States wasn’t there to object so implicitly since we’re still part of the unfccc. We agreed too. Right. This is something nobody wants to talk about, but it’s true. 1.3 trillion in wealth redistribution per year by the year 2035.

So we’re talking 10 years from now, they’re going to be extracting $1.3 trillion from whatever’s left of the American middle class. If we, we still have one, whatever’s left of the middle class in Europe. That’s in addition to a tripling of climate adaptation finance, which is basically bribing third world kleptocracies to pretend like they’re adapting to climate change by putting money in their Swiss bank accounts and Buying nicer limousines and building themselves nicer mansions and things like this. That’s the way it works. Yeah, that’s exactly right. And so Joe Biden agreed to a loss and damage from fund, him and John Kerry, where we’re going to be paying climate reparations again, apart from all these other things and a huge development that almost nobody in the American media talked about, they’re now integrating carbon markets.

So the European Union and the Marxist Brazilian government came up with this big special event. They got a new agreement. I forget the whole title of it. It was like Open Carbon market transparent reform mechanism, where they are bringing together the European Union carbon market, the Brazilian carbon market, the chicom carbon market. They’re all going to start using the same standards so that they can all be integrated, so that a carbon credit in the European Union is the same as a carbon credit in Brazil is the same as a carbon credit eventually in the United States of America, when they think they can pass this abomination on us.

And for all the people who think this isn’t a threat for the next three and a half years, while we have Trump in office, I would just remind everybody that there’s a lot of people in the administration who have publicly expressed support for these things in the past. Howard Letnick, the Commerce Secretary, has actually been deeply involved in creating the infrastructure for the carbon markets. Elon Musk has been blabbering about carbon markets for years, and it’d be a big boon to Tesla, but he has suggested that carbon markets, carbon taxes, are a really efficient way of reducing our carbon emissions.

You’ve got a lot of people in the administration, and I’m sure Scott Besant is among them, who think these kinds of ideas are good and proper. So will they connections to George Soros? Yeah, absolutely. Of course. Yeah. And the cfr, the Council on Foreign Relations. I mean, the guy is, I think, through and through, suspect. But we need to realize that this is not a threat. That’s over. And I think that’s one of the dangerous narratives that has gone through the alternative media in recent years is like, oh, we won. All right, let’s go back to focusing on more important things.

The climate change hoax is still the pretext. Not a pretext. The pretext for completely restructuring the global economy, completely undermining national sovereignty and transferring power and authority to the UN and bringing all the religions of the world together so that we can save Mother Earth. And nothing has changed about that. They’ve just stopped talking about it in the fake media in America. That’s right. And when you look at Lutnick, you know, the fact that he wants this common, you know, think about it. How do we get the eu? Well, it all began with a common market, right? It begins with economic unification.

And then before you know it, you got a common currency. What’s that common currency going to be? It’s going to be some stable coins that are being done by Lutnik, so they can monitor everybody’s use and stop you from being able to spend if you don’t, you know, do it the right way. So it’s basically the way that they’re going to bring in the cbdc. When you look at people getting very upset about this, it’s primarily the power bills. And they’re going to continue escalating these power bills by leaps and bounds for the purpose of artificial intelligence.

And so they’re going to have that fight. They’re going to build that up as a necessity. And, you know, once they get that in, they’re going to use that to impose all of these carbon markets and carbon credits and anything for individuals. And that. That’s really where this is all headed. It is the perfect. I talk about it as being the MacGuffin. You know, Hitchcock always had. He said it doesn’t really matter what it is that they’re chasing. It could be the Maltese Falcon or whatever. They’ve got a different agent, you know, that. That’s what we’re using as our plot device for the.

For the movie. And so they got these different plot devices and they just keep moving them around, but they always seem to go in the same direction. Direction. You know, we had the COVID MacGuffin. It was all about getting some kind of a vaccine ID so they could track you and that type. So we got to have the infrastructure to be able to track people’s movements. We got to have the digital biometric infrastructure so we can see what they’ve done and keep records on people. So they always have this. It always comes back to the same solution for all these different MacGuffins.

And they just have a different panic mode that they’re trying to put people into. Truly is amazing. Yep, absolutely. And, you know, fear is, of course, one of the tools. Be afraid of climate change, be afraid of a Covid, be afraid of, you know, whatever the pretext is. Be afraid of drugs, be afraid of, you know, some people group in another part of the world that still lives in caves. Whatever it takes to make you very scared so that you’ll give up more of your Money, more of your freedom. And so this is the oldest trick in the book, right? I mean, you can go back 200 years.

Look at Frederick Bastiat, the great French philosopher lawmaker, said that these totalitarians are constantly concocting the poison and the antidote in the same laboratory. Climate change is the ultimate example of that. Create a fake crisis over here and then create fake solutions to the fake crisis over here, and presto, you take away people’s money and freedom. So how about that? Frederick Bastiat knew about the Dark Winter and Operation Warp Speed long before it ever happened, right? That’s right. He knew the pattern of politicians well enough to be able to identify it. Right. And unfortunately, today people don’t know this because they’ve been brainwashed in a government school.

You know, they really don’t know much of anything. They haven’t been trained in logic, they haven’t been trained in history. They haven’t been trained in analysis and reasoning. So, you know, someone on TV said, climate change is going to get you. And a big percentage of the population says, oh, no. What do we need to do, Master, to save me from this boogeyman? And here we are. Yeah. And that gets us really, I think, to the real anecdote of this, and that is education, which you focus on quite a bit. You’ve written a book, the Indoctrinating Our Children to Death.

And of course, you also have a blog, the Newman Report. Is that on substack? The Newman Report is on Freedom Project. Our substack people can find it at Liberty Sentinel. And we’d love to have people sign up two times a week. We up sign, send out the most important stuff that we’re working on. That’s great. Yeah, yeah. What do you see happening in terms of education? Where are the threats that you see developing? Or do you see any good news in education? Well, there’s good news and there’s bad news. As you mentioned, you were kind enough to have me on to talk about indoctrinating our children to death about a year ago.

This is, I think, more relevant today than ever. And amazingly, it’s been endorsed by a lot of great American patriots, including you. And so a lot of the things that we warned about that were going to come in this book are now materializing. So we’ve got another book coming out in January. I wrote it with Robert Bortons. He’s the CEO of Classical Conversations. It’s the biggest homeschooling organization in the world. Over 135,000 students, over a Million graduates so far. And the book is called Woken How Karl Marx Won the Battle for American Education and How We Can Take it Back.

And it does focus some on the history. You know, we go back to the first guys that seriously proposed that the government ought to be educating our children. And they were occultists, they were totalitarians, they were commies, they were weirdos, they were talking to spirit friends. And, you know, we got smoking gun evidence of all that, but we’re still going on today, so. Oh, absolutely it is. And I mean, they don’t even hide it anymore. Right. Shirley McCune, who George H.W. bush put in the Department of Education Education and start nationalizing education. She’s running around telling people she’s talking to spirit ascended masters who are giving her this secret wisdom into the new age and the fifth dimension.

Total bonkers. But that’s what they’re up to. Well, you got General Flynn, who is leading people in prayers to ascended masters and the seven Rays or something like that. He was plagiarizing Elizabeth Clare Prophet. He’s doing it. This reawaken American thing. So, yeah, there’s a lot of discernment that needs to be had out there and a lot of education. And that’s what I like about your book, Indoctrinating Our Children to Death. You go into the history of this so we can see the trend lines and where these people are coming from and what they said they wanted to do.

Very important. Yeah. So you got a new book coming out in January. That’s great. Yes, we do. Yeah. And the big threat right now, the good news is millions of families are continuing to flee from this corrupt, decaying government indoctrination system masquerading as a school system. The bad news is the UN knows this, the globalists know this, and they’ve got a plan. And we’ve got the reports where they outline their plans. And we’re going to give you free money. And all you got to do is surrender your freedom and take our tests and teach our curriculum.

The UN actually just released a report, David, about three weeks ago, maybe a month ago now, where they said homeschooling must, if it’s going to be allowed, it must be under the control of government. They have to be taught UN approved values. They have to use UN approved education content. It was literally prepared under a North Korean communist, and it says so in the acknowledgments. So they are absolutely coming for our children. And if we don’t take this threat seriously, I think all the other fights we’re engaged in. We might as well just raise the white flag because we’re going to lose over the long term.

We’ve got to deal with the education issue. I agree. It really is about the hearts and minds. I mean, that was what they kept saying during Vietnam War. It’s about the hearts and minds. Well, that’s what the education system is really about, hearts and minds of your children. They’re coming after them, and it is a war to take that. That’s why, you know, when you look at. And again, they’ll do it with money. They always do it with money. And that’s why I was absolutely flabbergasted when people didn’t get that about the lockdowns and about the COVID pandemic and everything.

Everybody would say, it’s not Trump, it’s the bad Democrat governors. And I said, he’s paying people to do this. He’s saying subsidizing the hospitals and he’s giving everybody else money for this. That’s the way they always get around the 10th amendment or any legal requirements. They give you money and then you do whatever they want. Once they give you that money, then you get accustomed to it and you don’t. And they own the printing press. They’ve got infinite money, and they know that as long as they can print some new money, you’ll dance to their tune.

I mean, it’s the greatest scam ever concocted in the history of man. Well, I tell you, Alex, I’ve said many times, it’s going to be really, really difficult for us here in America once we lose that magic money tree, that they can just print it all out of nothing. Right. But that’s the only way that you’re going to break the power of the federal government is if you break the printing presses. And so it’s going to be a good news, bad news thing. It’s kind of like the silver lining of the school lockdowns. I still think it’s funny to go back and look at people talking about the pandemic and the ill effects of that.

And. And look at. They kept the school. It kept the schools closed for a long time. And it’s like, yeah, to me, that was one of the big advantage, the only advantage of it, the only silver lining, that. And the fact that people could finally see what was happening in their child’s classroom. I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve talked to people and they say, yeah, I understand what’s going on over there in that other state or maybe even here in this state or maybe even in my particular school, but not in my kid’s classroom.

Well, this time they could actually see what was happening in the classroom and I think that was the big impetus. So the co author there is someone who’s running Classical Conversations. That’s an excellent program. We didn’t do that when we schooled our kids, but it really is an excellent rigorous curriculum there. Classic. Yeah, we’ve actually got our own kids enrolled in there. That’s how I originally connected with them. It’s such a good program. Watching the kids coming out of this, they’re so far ahead of the poor victims of the government schools, it makes you want to cry.

But you know, if you’re a parent and you’re looking for a good program to get your children a real education, that’s the one. Check it out. Classical Conversations. I agree. Yeah, I think it’s got a lot of great content in it. Well, it’s always great having you on. And again, people can find you at Liberty Sentinel. Is that correct? Liberty sentinel.org and then the newamerican.com is where most of our climate coverage is going to be. So for the folks out there who haven’t signed up for the magazine, encourage them to do that. At least the free daily headlines.

TheNewAmerican.com and then my website. Yeah. Liberty Sentinel.org okay. I just remembered the name of that guy. Steve Malloy. Steve Malloy was one about junk science.com I worked with Steve prior to Infowars and he’s really good guy and he’s really had his finger to the pulse of what’s going on with the environmental stuff, just as you have. Thank you so much for joining us. And, and it’s always a pleasure talking to you, Alex. And let us know when you got that new book on. Like to talk to you about that when it’s ready. Absolutely. Thank you so much.

It’s an honor and a pleasure to be here. Thank you, David. God bless you and Merry Christmas. Thank you. Merry Christmas to you as well. We’ll be right back, folks. Stay with us. Sa. Ra.
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