➡ In this interview, the host and his guest, Bart Sabrell, discuss their skepticism about the moon landing. They question the authenticity of NASA and the moon landing, suggesting that the U.S. government may have staged it to appear more advanced than the Soviet Union during the Cold War. They also discuss various conspiracy theories, including the idea that the CIA was involved in the JFK assassination and the Vietnam War. The guest, Bart, shares his personal journey from being a moon landing believer to a skeptic, citing various reasons and evidence that led him to question the narrative.
➡ The text discusses the challenges of space travel, questioning how we managed to land on the moon with limited technology in the 1960s. It points out the difficulties of landing rockets vertically, surviving deadly radiation, and having enough fuel for the journey. The text also criticizes Elon Musk’s failed rocket attempts and questions the credibility of scientists who insist we went to the moon. Lastly, it suggests that the truth about space travel may be suppressed due to financial interests.
➡ The text discusses skepticism about the Apollo moon missions, with the speaker suggesting that even intelligent people can be deceived. The speaker recounts a conversation with Buzz Aldrin, who allegedly hinted that the moon landing was a hoax. The speaker also criticizes a podcast interview where he felt the host was overly protective of a guest who defended the moon landing. The speaker believes that the guest was intentionally lying about his knowledge of the speaker’s moon landing skepticism.
➡ The filmmaker argues that the moon landing was faked, using evidence from photographs and videos. He points out inconsistencies in shadows and the size of Earth from the moon, which he believes can only be explained by the use of electrical light and a studio setting. He also mentions a video that appears to show astronauts faking a view of Earth from space. The filmmaker suggests that these deceptions were made for reasons beyond just winning the space race, possibly for propaganda or misinformation purposes.
➡ The text discusses a conspiracy theory suggesting that the moon landing was faked. The author presents a story of a man who, on his deathbed, confessed to witnessing the filming of the moon landing at a military base and killing a coworker who planned to expose the truth. The author also questions the technology used during the moon landing and the destruction of related data. He suggests that those involved in the mission could not differentiate between a real and simulated flight, further supporting his theory.
➡ The text discusses a filmmaker’s belief that the moon landings were faked, based on his own investigations and interviews with astronauts. He suggests that the government is covering up the truth and may use the lie to introduce the concept of aliens. The filmmaker also believes that admitting the moon landing was a hoax could restore public trust in the government. He further theorizes that UFOs are real but originate from Earth, not outer space, and are demonic in nature.
➡ The text discusses the idea of rogue planets and the belief that the universe is designed by a higher power. It also delves into conspiracy theories about the moon landing being faked, hidden symbols in logos, and the belief that world leaders are influenced by Lucifer. The speaker emphasizes the importance of repentance and living according to God’s commandments, and expresses concern about missing children. The text ends with a call for truth and honesty in society.
➡ The podcast host praises Bart for his bravery and dedication in revealing truths, despite the risks involved. Bart, who initially declined the project due to fear, changed his mind after reading the Bible five times. He believes that exposing the faked moon landing is crucial for humanity to learn from its mistakes. The host encourages listeners to visit Bart’s website for more information and to support his work.

All right, folks, welcome to Nino’s Corner tv. I am joined with Bart Sabrell. And I gotta say, Bart, Bart, you are a huge, huge moon. Moon landing denier. Right? And I gotta say, so am I. I’ve watched it all now. I’ve seen everything. And I’ve come to the conclusion that I can’t buy what they’re selling. Right? I just can’t. I watched you recently on the Danny Jones Show. I’ve had you on my show before, and I really thank you for coming on again. I watched you on the. On the Danny Jones show with Apollo 16 astronaut Charles Duke, who claims he’s the 10th person to walk on the moon in 1972.

And I gotta be honest with you, it wasn’t very convincing on his part. Just gonna say that right now. Bart, thank you so much for joining me. No, no problem. Nino, how are you doing? Great. I. You know, this is. This may strike a nerve for a lot of people, but, you know, I’m actually questioning the complete reality of NASA, you know, as a psyop. I mean, I’m just gonna be honest with you. But what started it all for me was the moon landing. I mean, let’s. Let’s get started with you first. Let’s just go. Let’s just unpack from there.

But what made you want to dive into this? Let’s go back to your earliest history. What made you want to get into this and question the entire moon landing scenario or narrative? Well, if I may first interject something that came to mind when you use the word deny. I don’t know that that’s the right word. I’m acknowledging and proclaiming that the federal government is so corrupt that. That they killed their own president, faked the beginning of wars, and staged mankind’s alleged greatest accomplishment. I’m not denying anything. I’m proclaiming that they are that corrupt. And I grew up believing, like everybody else, that the moon missions were genuine.

And I guess there’s nothing wrong with making that assumption. You know, it’d be better to believe your spouse if they say they weren’t committing adultery. And it’d be a better world if you believe your government to have integrity. And the number one reason I hear as to why the moon missions must be real is that the federal government wouldn’t lie about something so important. Right? And the fact is, there’s no independent press coverage. It’s not like reporters can be there to verify everything. They didn’t even have live pictures during the landing. Suddenly a picture comes up, and as you know from my book@sabral.com we have an eyewitness who said as he was dying, that he participated in the filming of the fake moon landing at Cannon Air Force Base a year beforehand in 1968.

So not only did I believe at first that the moon missions are real, I was, you might call, a fanboy. My father was in the Air Force, and I grew up around Air Force bases and technology. And my father got a VIP package from the United States Air Force about Apollo 11, 29 by 12 color prints, and they became my cherished present. I put them up on a wall all together, and it was like a shrine. And we moved about every two years. And wherever we went, I saw those pictures. You know, if I only saw them once a day between the age of four and 14, that would be seeing them 3,650 times.

I probably saw them three times a day. So that’s like seeing the pictures 10,000 times, believing that they’re real. And then when I’m 14, I see one of the first guests on the Oprah Winfrey Show, a gentleman with security clearance second only to Von Braun, who was the Nazi from World War II who they put over the space program. And he said he read and edited a memo from von Braun to the Pentagon warning them that the odds of going to the moon on the first attempt is like a 1 in 10,000 chance. I mean, just the South Pole here on Earth.

There must have been about six crews that died trying to reach the South Pole on Earth before it was successfully done. And when I hear this guy saying they spanked it, kind of like poker. If you’ve ever played poker, you can win with a bluff. And that’s what they did. They bluffed, at least temporarily, the Soviet Union into thinking we were more advanced than they were. They gave Americans a pep rally. Richard Nixon, president at the time, said the number one threat is. The number one threat to the federal government is not China, not Russia, but it’s American citizens protesting the federal government, largely about war.

So we got an eyewitness who saw them film it. And he knew the code name, which was called Slam Dunk, which was originated by President Johnson, who was actually filmed the last year of Johnson’s term and then approved by Nixon. And he called it slam dunk, because instead of having a 1 to 10,000 chance of succeeding, if you fake it, you have a 100% chance of succeeding, which makes it a slam dunk. And that’s why Johnson did not run for reelection when he was eligible. That Only happened one other time in American history. The guy’s popular enough, you know, Lyndon B.

Johnson. Two big conspiracies behind that guy. Right. The JFK assassination and now and the moon landing under this guy’s belt. Well, yeah, I mean, we just look at Robert Kennedy Jr. Okay? He has more access to the JFK files than Oliver Stone does. And he said with 100 certainty. The CIA, his uncle, the President, United States. And then a couple of Years later, Robert McNamara is brought in as Defense Secretary under Johnson, who rescinded the end of the Vietnam War. He restarted it. He canceled so many things that Kennedy had initiated, one of which was to put an end to the Vietnam War.

Johnson restarted it and then he went to his defense secretary and said, look, the public isn’t behind what we want to do. We need something like Pearl harbor. Well, on December 6, 1941, 90% of Americans, 90% were against entering World War II. One day later, 90% wanted to get even, right? Yeah. So Robert McNamara said before he died that he went to the CIA and they completely made up, fabricated a North Vietnamese attack on an American ship in the Gulf of Tonkin. Congress passed a law called the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution based on an event that never happened.

So if our representatives are being deceived by the CIA and voting accordingly. We don’t have representatives. Only the CIA has representatives. You see that? The CIA killed the President. That’s parents, isn’t it? The CIA started a war based on a fabrication. So they killed their own president. They killed 58,000, 220 of their own soldiers. So I don’t think they’re going to have a problem faking a video image of the moon. And at that time, at that time, we were in a race with the cosmonauts, right? We were in race with Russia. We. We had to beat them to the moon.

That was the whole premise of it, right? Of the faking of the moon landing, correct? Yeah, that was really. It was more than that in a way, because Kennedy had boasted that they would go to the moon by the end of the decade. He told this story. He was Irish, and he told the story of an Irish fable of two brothers. One brother challenged the other brother to climb this wall. And it’s like, I don’t know if I can do it or not. So the brother took the younger brother’s hat and threw it over the wall and said, now you must.

And so Kennedy said, by proclaiming the deadline of going by the end of the 60s, we are forcing ourselves to do it, but it proved to be a technological impossibility as it is to this day, otherwise there’d be bases all over the moon like there are at the South Pole. Right, okay. But astronauts do say we go to space, right? They go to the lower, the lower orbit. Right? They’re not. Yeah, but that’s only, that’s only 250 miles above the Earth. So pick a city that’s 250 miles away from where you are, make that vertical, and that’s as far as they go into space.

You know, the proof that they faked it is right there in logic. Because today, with five decades better rockets and computers, the farthest that NASA can send an astronaut into space is only 1000th the distance to the moon. So that’s like saying in 1927, Lindbergh flew across the Atlantic 3,000 miles and 55 years later, not a single airplane can fly over the Atlantic. And the best airplane can only fly 3 miles. Makes no sense. There’s never been a technological achievement like breaking the sound barrier or splitting the atom that no one could repeat 50 years later.

It’s never happened. It’s never happened where you have greater technology in the past and in the future. Because after they split the atom, I think it was two years later the Soviets split the atom and just ten years after the first atomic bomb. Atomic bombs were 1000 times more powerful. That’s the exponential increase of progress. So if they could go to the moon on the first attempt with 1,000,000th the computing power, cell phone, we would have been on Mars 10 years later. We’d be in another solar system by now and there’d be bases all over the moon.

I mean, come on, I’m not disagreeing with you, but I will say, yeah, Elon Musk. I was just going to bring up Elon Musk. Elon Musk keeps sending these rockets into outer space and they keep coming down broken and fizzling out. And I mean they’re just, it’s just a disaster every time I see it. And I’m wondering to myself, how is this guy, you know, the modern day Iron man, quote unquote, not able to send a single rocket to the moon, but yet we landed on the moon, went through the Van Allen belt, made it to the moon.

How many miles away is the moon from Earth? It’s about, depending on the apogee of perigee, but about 239,000 miles. Okay, so and space station is only 1,000th that distance at about 250 miles. Now, Elon Musk in order to land a rocket vertically, like they claim they did on the moon, with one millionth the computing power cell phone. In order to land a rocket vertically, he had 600 million times more computing power than the lunar module. 600 million times more computing power with six engines all around it, gimbaling the thing to land vertically. The first time it blew up.

The second time it blew up. The third time it blew up. The fourth time it blew up. And he finally did it the fifth time. So how did they land a rocket vertically six times in a row in the foreign atmosphere of a moon with 1 millionth the computing power cell phone, which is like 1 billionth the computing power that Elon Musk had, which took him five attempts. But do you even believe Elon Musk did it? That first one? The CGI looks a little odd to me, but that’s what I’m saying. They show the little. A little possibly contrived.

Well, hold on, hold on. They show the rocket blasting off and then everything else from there like a video game. It’s a cgi. Like what camera following this rocket in space and recording the whole thing. How do you even land on the moon and then have the propulsion system to lift back off of the moon? None of this makes sense to me at all. Any way you spin it, the whole thing. And then the question comes into my mind, isn’t space a vacuum? How does a combustion engine work in space? How does a rocket work in space when it’s supposed to be friction, freezing and a vacuum and there’s fire, needs oxygen.

How is it even working? I don’t get it. I’m sorry. There are fuels that will burn, you know, in a vacuum of space. But the point is they didn’t have enough fuel. Elon Musk just published an article that said in order to go to the moon today, you’re going to need 15 fuel trips to a space station. First we have a video. Go to sabrell.com S as in SAM IB as in BOY R E L sabrell.com you’ll see a video by Von Braun says the same thing. The biggest rocket they can build can only achieve Earth orbit.

Then after that, you’re going to take multiple fuel trips to a space station. Elon Musk just says it will take a minimum of 15 fuel trips in order to go to the moon. And then when you land on the moon, they certainly didn’t have enough fuel left over to come back and meet the rocket that was allegedly orbiting the moon at about 3,000 miles an hour. They didn’t have the computer power to synchronize from 0 miles per hour to 3,000 miles per hour because if they were off by more than 1/10 of a second, they would Mr.

Target and be dead. This is why they destroyed all of the schematics, all of the blueprints, all of the diagrams from the moon rocket. One of the clips, my book Moon man, which I read myself and audio kinder la print. It’s interactive with about 18 video clips. One of them is a NASA astronaut saying they intentionally destroyed all of the moon landing technology. Now if you spend an equivalent of $250 billion to go to the moon and it worked six times, I don’t think you want to throw that into the furnace. I mean if you were ever going to do that with technology, maybe the atomic BO for the sake of world peace, but they didn’t do that.

So just the fuel trips alone discredits all of it. And then second, the Van Allen belt. I mean how would we even get through the Van Allen belt, the radiation belt? Well, you know, this is a problem too. Most people don’t even know it exists. But about a thousand miles above the earth and about 30,000 miles beyond that is a field of highly deadly radiation that you’d have to go through to the moon and back. One of the clips@sabrell.com is the engineer of the Orion spacecraft saying that the radiation is dangerous or deadly and the technology to go through it has not been invented yet.

He says we must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space. So the challenges have not been solved, number one, meaning they don’t have the technology to survive the radiation. And number two, you have to do that before you can go through it to the moon. So how did they go to the moon in 1969? So how do they avoid it? They didn’t go to the moon. How do they even avoid the micro meteors, things flying at them in space in the technology in the 1960s. Technology I don’t understand. That’s a long trip, 200 some thousand miles to get to the moon.

I don’t understand how you avoid the catastrophes along the way. I mean just that alone in an unknown uncharted territory that we’ve never been through before, they just go there. It just doesn’t make any sense to me. What do you think about people like Neil Degreese Tyson that comes out and says, well I know we went to the moon because we had enough fuel. That’s what he said on Joe Rogan’s show. What do you have to say to people like that? Well, Neil Disgrace Tyson is probably the worst, you know, scientific representative of the United States of America, and he needs to turn the tables on himself.

He says anyone who thinks the moon landings were falsified, it doesn’t live in reality. He’s the one who doesn’t live in reality. I talked to a college professor who said if Neil Armstrong confessed on national TV that the moon missions were fake, he would believe he went to the moon anyway. So these people are worshiping the works of their hand, the false God of Apollo, which Revelation 9:11 says is a name for Lucifer the liar. Right. And how ironic and sad. The most powerful nation on Earth is falsifying mankind’s greatest accomplishment, and naive people like himself are defending their own gangsters who are enslaving them.

It’s pretty sad. It’s like these, these scientists are, like, working for the government. There’s shills. I mean, I would imagine they’re probably all level, high, high level masons at the very top there, right? Well, a few of them, you know, are alive today who know that the moon missions are fake. They’re surviving Apollo astronauts and Eugene Kranz and people like that, people like Tyson. He is sincere but sincerely wrong. And, and I don’t think he’s the best spokesperson for science. There are probably other people who would do a better job. He seems to BS his way through a lot of things, but that’s just my opinion.

I’m sure he’s a great guy personally and a wonderful family man and everything like that. Well, not if he’s lying. He should know. Clearly wrong. He. He should know better than anybody else, being a scientist, that it’s. We’re not. We were not capable of going in the 60s for. So for him to deny that or to be perpetuating a lie makes him, in my mind, a criminal to humanity, to be honest with you. Well, the problem is with that term you used, you know, scientists. If I, if I buy a used car and it has the Used Car association of America’s seal of approval, does that mean it’s a good used car? No, it’s just marketing.

And to call someone a quote, scientist, and therefore you must believe, you know, everything they say and keep out, you know, greedy and advertising and marketing and political influence, you know, is naive. And the fact is, you know, science is corrupted. They’re taking down papers. There was a paper that was published in a prestigious medical journal recently that said the MRNA technology can contribute to cancer and as soon as they published it, their website was hacked. People don’t want the truth because Pfizer is making something like $100 billion a year. And so that’s a lot of money at stake.

And people are killing one another for $20 at the ATM. Imagine what they’ll do for billions of dollars, which is the Apollo program costing today’s dollars, $250 billion. And they want naive Boy Scouts like this guy, you know, assuring people and believing themselves that the moon missions are real. If you look at the New Testament, if you’ve ever read it, I would say probably 75% to 90% of it is rebuking people who call themselves Christians. In fact, the Book of Revelation, of the seven churches, five out of the seven, I don’t know what percentage that is.

Sounds like about almost 80% is 80% of the churches God is saying are not going to go to heaven. Right. Just because they have Christian seal on them doesn’t mean they’re Christians. And just because someone has the science seal on them doesn’t mean they’re intelligent or knowledgeable or can’t be deceived themselves. People, intelligent people, are deceived all the time. And he’s one of them. You know, I remember Buzz Aldrin was speaking to a child, and she said, why haven’t we gone back to the moon? And he says, well, we didn’t go to the moon. I mean, he admitted it to himself.

I’m also going to say something that a lot of people I. I’ve said this before, but I met Buzz Aldrin in Dancing with the Stars, at Dancing with the Stars. And I told him, I go, I know we didn’t go to the moon. And he patted me on the shoulder. He was smart, man. And then he just walked off. It was the craziest thing ever. And I knew right there, there was sincerity. So that’s when I was like, okay, I know I’m on to something here, but it’s almost like they’re hinting to us that they didn’t go.

Right? And I don’t think they can live with their conscience, their conscious, knowing that they’re lying to billions of people. I think it’s affecting them, it’s wearing on them. Well, have you seen Buzz Aldrin do a TV or podcast interview in the last two or three years? No, because he. He no longer can control his tongue. And he has accidentally said on more than one occasion that the mumissions were falsified. So what do they do? They Bring out instead, who’s been doing all the podcasts since I did the Joe Rogan interview last year. Right. It is this new guy who has the seal not only of Science, of Christian, therefore you must believe him.

The guy intentionally lied repeatedly during the interview. I talked to Danny Jones, who’s a great guy, who told him 10 times over the telephone he was going to be having a discussion leading advocate who says we didn’t go to the moon. And yet he pretended like he was surprised. Let me capitalize on that. That interview, I was watching it. I watched the whole thing. I watched the whole podcast. And it’s like all of a sudden the guy was in just aloof to the entire podcast and didn’t know why he was there, although he was, you know, stating why he went to the moon.

But every time you question him, he goes, I don’t understand. What does he not believe we went to the moon? I mean, he kept stopping. The point is, that’s his act. He’s lying. How? One minute before they started recording, the guy reminded me, quoted me word for word of a private phone conversation we had 20 years earlier where I told him I found proof that they didn’t go to the moon. He knew that a minute beforehand. He was told it 10 times before the interview. It wasn’t like a surprise guest. And yet he lied about five times during the interview by acting surprised that I believed we didn’t go to the moon.

Which means he’s intentionally lying because he said he knew that a minute beforehand. Danny Jones told him that 10 times in the 10 weeks leading up to it, and yet picked him up from the airport and told him, you’re coming on to debate about going to the moon. He understood. He told him 10 times before that, you know, and it wasn’t really a debate because, you know, Danny Jones is a good guy, but he was so overly protective of the guy because he’s elderly. He didn’t want to make it look like you’re beating up an old on an old man.

That’s. Yeah. So basically, he not only told him 10 times, he would be facing me, who believes we didn’t go to the moon. He also coached him, which is wrong, of a moderator on how to respond to my questions. Danny Jones, coach in advance. In advance. What? And yeah, how do you know that? Danny Jones told me so? He said I coached Charles Duke. Correct. He said I coached him on how to respond to some of your answers. And during the interview, how many times did I ask Charles Duke a difficult question? And Dan and then Danny interjected and answered it for him 10, 20 times.

You know what I mean? Why would Danny Jones do that? Why would he need to, if they really went to the moon, Right. The guy should speak for himself. This. These events happened before Danny Jones was born. Why, why, why would an Apollo astronaut need a guy who, who, you know, was born after these events to defend him? If they really. Do you. Do you feel like you were treated unfairly and on that podcast? Well, according to the rules of a debate, absolutely. You know, from. From a cordial, you know, hospitality point of view, no. Danny Jones is a great host, great person.

I think he just overreacted. He was super, super cautious. He was very afraid that his podcast would turn into. What was that? That guy who would always have people punching each other on their show. Jerry Springer. Jerry Springer turn into that. And he was. That’s one thing. All right. I mean, yeah, so he was. He was tiptoeing around that, you know, like, you know, I could go in a china shop too, if too afraid. And. And as a result, overreacted. Coaching him in advance was very wrong. And so was answering the question. I asked Charles Duke a question.

What count? What machine today? You know, telephone, microwave oven, radar detector, whatever, that has a counterpart in 1969. That’s better quality in 1969. You know, I asked Charles Duke that question, and then Danny Jones starts answering for him. I point, I make a point, you know, at the beginning of it, and then Danny Jones, you know, defends him again. I noticed during the debate. I noticed that. But another thing I noticed too was I already have the nsa, the CIA, the NASA, the entire trillion dollar federal government against me. I don’t need Danny Jones piling on top of me as well.

Well, the only evidence this guy had, really, the only argument he had was that he collected the moon rocks. He was there while I collected the moon rocks. I mean, I was there. I mean, it almost looked like this feeble old man that just. As a matter of fact, I was there. And like anybody who questioned him, it looked like you were beating up on him. That’s the way. But I think the old man was smart. He’s wise, right? He knows. He knew how to play it. He knew how to play. Well, you know what, what’s sad is that he claims to be a Christian and to have the Charles Duke ministry.

That’s the sad thing because, you know, that’s dangerous spiritually, you know, to be. I guess that’s part of the game. He’s the one they bring out on Glenn Beck, because Glenn Beck says he’s a Christian. And if Charles Duke says he’s a Christian, then just like, you know, if you put the seal of scientist or Christian on and it must be true. And that’s his part of his act. He intentionally lied multiple times during the interview, just about not knowing whether or not I was the guy who said we didn’t go to the moon. He reminded me of it one minute beforehand.

Danny Jones told him 10 times in the 10 weeks leading up to it. And then he acted five times like he had no clue that I was the guy who said we didn’t go to the moon, which is intentionally lying. So if he’s intentionally lying five times about not knowing that I’m the guy who said we didn’t go to the moon, then what else is he intentionally lying about? Right? Yeah, Clever, clever moves because he, he was playing. He was trying to play, in my mind, the old man card. My dad’s 91 and he’s sharp as attack.

My dad could probably see right through that interview as well. But to you, what was the first big, besides blatantly looking at what we saw on the footage? I mean, now with, with today’s technology, looking at the. The footage they have to show us, it looks pathetic. I’ll be quite honest with you. And the common sense to know, like, we can’t even make it to the moon without 15 stops to refuel and the Van Allen belt, all that. What was the first big evidence that was glaring you in the face that you were like, wow, okay, we didn’t go.

That you knew right then and there, we did not go. Well, I’ll bring up a slide here or a picture. You can go to sabral.com and, and see it as well. But I’ll bring it up here. I’ll share a screen here. Give me a second to share a picture. Okay, so I’m going to click share screen, entire screen, this one. Share. Drag this over here. And here we are. Well, I’m a filmmaker for almost, I guess, going 40 years, pretty much. I’ve won best cinematography award and best editing award from the American Motion Picture Society. Over here on the left is how shadows should look in sunlight.

The sun is about 93 million miles away. It’s about a million times bigger in volume than the Earth. These are two telephone poles about five feet apart. You’ll see the shadows run, even going uphill. They run the same direction. They don’t change course. They’re always parallel. It’s impossible for Shadows to intersect if they’re lit by the sun. They claim they only use sunlight on the Moon. After all, it’s 10 times brighter than light on Earth because it has no atmosphere. Here’s an astronaut shadow going at 9 o’ clock and a rock shadow going at 9 o’.

Clock. This is a, you know, a 90 degree difference in shadows from objects five feet apart. This is all the proof you need. This picture on the right cannot be duplicated in sunlight. It can only be duplicated with electrical light, which means it was taken with electrical light, which means they’re on Earth, not the Moon. There we go. It just proved it mathematically and dare I say scientific, that the Moon missions are fake. We did it in one photograph. Well, there’s also. There’s also, to me, the fact that, you know, they also, when they were showing the Moon landing and then showing Earth in the distance, Earth looked like a little ball to me.

The Earth would be enormous if you’re on the Moon and the Earth is that much bigger. The Earth would be the whole skyline, the whole. You know what I’m saying? It wouldn’t be. It’s not going to look like the Moon. It’s not going to look how us on Earth looking at the moon. That’s not how the Earth looks to the moon. When you’re on the moon, the Moon, the Earth would be enormous, correct? Yeah, I think it would probably be about six times bigger than a full moon on Earth. And yet they never actually showed the Earth in the background except on one mission, one time, way high up, even though that was Eugene Cernan’s mission, where it shows it almost straight up like high noon.

He said during an interview that I did, which you can watch@sobrell.com, that the Earth was always over the. Right there, over the horizon the entire time. And yet, if you go to, let’s say, Paris, how many pictures are you going to take of you standing in front of the Eiffel Tower? Lots. How many pictures are there of astronauts standing in front of the Earth with the Earth rotating and the cloud patterns going by zero? Because they couldn’t fake the Earth rotating with the proper, you know, cloud patterns to match. They couldn’t do it, so they didn’t talk about it.

Now, those photographs showed to me that the pictures were taken with electrical light. And yet I still wanted more proof. I got a million dollars from an investor who builds rockets for NASA, who knows the moon missions were fake to produce A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon, which you can see, @sobral.com, if you go back to my screen, I’ll just touch it up here. Here’s my website, sobral.com and on the home page you can see a funny thing happened on the way to the moon. We’ll just go to YouTube and we’ll watch it here on YouTube.

And I’m going to bring the volume down and I’m going to do a side by side here of this particular screen. So here is the Earth. Yeah, this is allegedly the Earth floating in space. Now we have the unedited version of this. So someone from NASA sent me the unedited version here. According to NASA and the line Apollo astronauts, there’s only one window that faces the Earth and it’s filled up with the TV camera because they are halfway to the moon and they want to show this by showing the Earth at some distance away. So let me do a new window here and do a side by side comparison here.

This is from my film as well. So this is what they claim on the left is the Earth from 130,000 miles out. But here are the outings of an astronaut’s arm getting in front of the window where they have put a photograph of the Earth taken from a satellite over the circular window and even insert a crescent piece of material to look like the terminator line. The camera’s actually at the back of the spacecraft. The lights are off. And so we have them faking being halfway to the moon. This other shot will reveal it completely. Again, on the left, he just said this is 130,000 miles out.

On the right is the unedited version. The lens is not at the window, it’s at the back of the spacecraft. The lights are off and you’re going to see them break down this special effect. Up in the left hand corner, you’ll see a work light that they diffused just enough to see camera controls, but not show any of the spacecraft walls. You’re going to see Neil Armstrong break down part of the special effect there in front of the window. Then you’re going to see the iris opened up and the real location of the Earth, which is right outside the window.

They’re in Earth orbit. So he just showed them faking being halfway to the moon. Wow, look at that. And so if you’re really going to the moon, why would you be faking any of it? And if you’re faking being halfway to the moon, it’s because you cannot go, go halfway. You cannot leave Earth orbit. And What a surprise, 55 years later, you still cannot leave Earth orbit. And here we are. We’ll do full screen on that so you can see it one more time. This is them faking being halfway to the moon with a one foot model of the Earth.

They’re doing it from Earth orbit. That’s actually the circular window of the spacecraft. And you’re going to see Neil Armstrong break it down right there. He’s breaking it down in front of the window. The camera is really at the back of the spacecraft and you’re seeing part of the Earth outside of a circular window. It looks like the Earth floating in space. It’s a very convincing special effect. But when the iris is open, you see the real location of the Earth right outside the window. This is what convinced me finally that they did indeed fake the moon landing.

When I saw that, I said, oh my gosh, they really did fake the moon landing. And I, I cried. I’m like, oh my gosh, how sad is that? I just wept for mankind, not America. Mankind. We’re so juvenile. Our leaders are so juvenile. But do you think there’s a deeper reason than just achieve. What was that? Do you think there’s a deeper reason to fake the moon landing? I mean, is there a Luciferian reason? Is there a, is there, is there a reason they would want to trick humanity into believing we went to the moon besides just the obvious of beating the Russian astronauts? I mean, is there a deeper reason behind this? Why, why fake it and perpetuate the lie? Well, what did they do first? Okay, World War II came to an end.

And during the war propaganda was legally allowed. So you could fudge the truth, you could lie for the purposes of misinformation in order to win the war. In 1946, Congress said that is now illegal. This is the United States. We’re going to have freedom of speech. You can’t have the newspapers intentionally lie. And then you had, in 1958, a quiz show scandal. Time magazine had on their cover a picture of a guy and the label was the smartest man in America. And he was the smartest man in America because he got the answers to the questions in advance.

And so they rigged it. Because he was popular. They wanted to give America something to cheer about. He was the all American guy, like Neil Armstrong. So they gave him the answers. Time magazine was wrong. Time magazine said men on the moon, they were wrong. Time magazine said, smartest man in America. They were wrong. So Congress reiterated the 1946 law, and they specifically said, television, it’s illegal to deceive people through Television. How was the moon landing, you know, falsified by television? One of the clips of sabrell.com is Dan Rather describing the Zapruder film two days after the assassination.

He says, we’re not going to show it, but just trust me. And when he says the third and fatal shot, you see Kennedy’s head go violently forward, it actually goes violently backward. Go to sabrell.com See that clip? So Dan Rather used television to deceive people. He said the exact opposite of the truth about one of the most historic events in US History. And then years later, they lied about the Gulf of Tonkin. A fake attack to start a war. And then they lied about the moon landing, which was easier still. You had to deal with 200 eyewitnesses on the ground, and they still got away with it.

You had to deal with international eyewitnesses of the Gulf of Tonkin, and they still got away with it. This is on the moon. There’s no independent press coverage. They don’t even show a live picture during the landing. Suddenly it comes on and people want to believe it. They want their team to win. It’s like giving a child candy. They’re going to grab it. And I’ve come along, I try to take that candy back and say, no, no, no, it’s. It’s really manure. And they. They’re defending it because it’s their entire belief system. But you’ve also gotten a confession from somebody on their deathbed, correct? I mean, this is big.

Yeah. I mean, you can show the clip, you can insert it. At this point, there’s. Go to sabrell.com on the homepage is a gentleman relating his father’s deathbed confession. We have a. A source who was chief of security at Cannon Air Force Base. And I can show the picture if you want. Share. This is his son confessing. Did you talk to the man himself that confessed, or did you talk to the son? I talked to the son. He had died by the time I got involved. And there was a video recording of his father’s confession, but the CIA, whoever, burned the house down to get rid of it.

And then after he confided in me, his house was broken into again. And CIA agents showed up at this guy’s house threatening to kill him and his family if he ever spoke to me again. The faking of the moon landing, according to my original source, this is the guy’s son right here. That’s what people are looking at. Correct. And my source at NASA said the moon landing was supervised by the United States Air Force. Well, this man’s father was chief of security at the Air Force’s most secure top secret base, their intelligence division, or special operations division, which is Cannon Air Force Base in Clovis, New Mexico.

Right up the street from me. Oh. As his father is dying, he says, you know, I’m fearing the judgment of God. I need to get something off my chest. The first thing he says, I killed somebody. His son is shocked. Dear old dad killed somebody? He said, yeah, I killed a fellow co worker at Cannon Air Force Base in 1968. The son, to the chagrin of the father, brings in the military police to investigate this homicide, to give the family of the victim closure. Maybe they said he disappeared or ran away or whatever. So he’s there during the interrogation on his father’s deathbed.

They get the name of the person he killed, when he killed him, where he killed him, how he killed him. And then they asked him, why? Why did you do it? And he said, well, we both eyewitnessed the filming of the first moon landing and a fake lunar set at Cannon Air Force Base. What? And my friend thought it was morally wrong. And so I killed him because he was going to go public about it. The chief of security got a list of 15 people. He stood beside President Johnson, who showed up for the first of three days of filming, gave him a list of 15 VIPs who are allowed in to witness the faking of the moon landing.

He saved the list as a souvenir. We published it in the book@sabrell.com. neil Armstrong was on the list. Buzz Aldrin was on the list. They only observed the TV images being filmed. They had doubles in the spacesuits, People who were super fit who could endure being in that spacesuit with no air conditioning it for several hours. Somebody, a source of mine, says he thinks one of the people inside that spacesuit, believe it or not, would was Bruce Lee, because of his stamina. And Bruce Lee died, I think, five years later on the fifth anniversary. Wow. On July 20, I guess 1973 or 74.

And that’s when he died. So he. They killed him on the anniversary of the moon landing. It’s kind of interesting. And so we have an eyewitness now. We already knew from the shadows intersecting that the moon missions are fake. We already knew from that footage of them faking being halfway to the moon that the moon missions were fake. We already knew. Logically, you can’t have greater technology in 1969 than today, when they can only orbit the moon. With mannequins, Right. How can you drive cars and play golf on the moon with 1960s technology never been used before? And 55 years later, the best you can do is have mannequins orbit the moon behind schedule.

Right when they’re originally going to have people. They said in 2014 and 2018, we’re going to have people orbiting the moon. And then in 2022, behind schedule, they only had mannequins orbiting the moon because of the radiation. And then if that weren’t enough proof, NASA’s saying they destroyed the technology, which you would never do if you went. But that’s exactly what you would do if you were covering up a fraud. Not only they destroyed the videotapes, the telemetry data, not only do we have NASA saying the technology to survive the radiation on a trip to the moon has not been invented yet, then we have an eyewitness who confessed as he was dying to get right with God and the reason was to cover up the moon landing fraud.

All that’s in my book you can see at the website homepage. But the book is the behind the scenes story. I want to pose some questions to you. How did they, how did they dupe everybody in Houston Control? I mean all the people there that were applauding and cheering? I mean, were they watching something fake on the monitors? I mean, they were all duped? Yeah. Eugene Krantz, flight director I’ve spoken to personally, he said someone in the command center can tell no difference whatsoever between a quote, real flight and a quote, rehearsal flight. It’s just a bunch of numbers going by on a screen.

In fact, if you watch my film, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the moon. There’s this dolly shot past the computers seconds before they go to the moon for the very first time. And they’re all kicked back watching TV like everybody else in their living room. If a guy in the command center cannot tell the difference between a real flight and a simulated flight, the fact that, quote, 400,000 people are involved doesn’t matter. If you add up every secretary, every food vendor, every office supply person from every subcontractor and their billing department and every possible person you can upon together maybe 400,000 people.

But it doesn’t matter if someone in the command center doesn’t know the difference, can’t tell the difference between a fake, fake flight and a real flight. All they’re doing is running a simulation program when they claim to have gone to the moon. There’s no independent eyewitnesses except Three people. And one of the questions I asked Charles Duke right away is, what’s your security clearance? Top secret. So why does an Apollo astronaut on an alleged civilian mission have top secret clearance? And then I said, as top secret clearance, you cannot tell your wife and children your secrets.

Correct? He said, correct. I said, oh, so you mean you would lie to your own wife and children and church members in order to do the bidding of the corrupt federal government? He said, yes. So there you go, Bart. You’ve also been threatened, correct? I mean, someone even said on tape that they were gonna. They were gonna get the CIA to whack you. I. I saw that on Danny Jones. I was actually just dumbfounded. I was. My jaw hit the floor. I was like, wow. I mean, you have it on, on video, on audio of this man saying, hey, do we get the CIA to whack him? Because what, you were asking questions.

How did that go down? Well, after we produced the film, mind you, I was given a million dollars by someone who builds rockets for NASA who knows the moon missions were fake. He thought it was his patriotic duty to expose it. I was producing the film under the theory it might be true that they faked it. I didn’t know, but I knew there was a lot of suspicious things. Three and a half years into the seven year project, we find that footage I just showed you of them faking being halfway to the moon with the one foot model of the Earth.

And I realized, oh, my gosh, they actually did fake the moon landing. Then everything falls into place and. I’m sorry, let me. That was a build up. To answer your question, remind me of your question again. The question was you, were you threatened by a man after we produced the first film called the Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon that shows all this evidence that they did fake it. I have the idea from maybe watching, you know, TV courtroom dramas as a kid, get these guys to swear in a Bible. So he produced a second film.

Not as artistic, you know, as the first one, but basically I tracked down as many Apollo astronauts as possible, put a Bible in front of them, and ask them to swear to God whether they walked on the moon or not. We have this footage of them faking being halfway to the moon. There’s one interview where I show it to Buzz Aldrin in Astronauts Gone Wild. He says, oh, and this makes you a real famous person for having discovered this. What an ego you must have to want to propel your career like this. Well, how could I become a famous reporter if they really Went to the moon, and I’m uncovering nothing.

So that was an admission that I was correct. And then later, he said we were only passengers. Talk. The NASA administrator, meaning he never landed on the moon. He just orbited the Earth under control of NASA. And then when he realized he had made two dimensions of guilt, he said, if I showed those admissions to anybody, he’d sue me. Those are in the film Astronauts Gone Wild. You can see it for free@sabrell.com it’s one of the clips of my book, the True Story of the Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List. Because on one occasion, we went in to Edgar Mitchell’s house, we put up a monitor.

We showed him the fake footage of them faking being halfway to the moon. He turned beet red. He started cursing. He said, get out of my house. He says, I don’t hit people. Then I turn my back to him, and he kicks me from behind. He can’t even go five seconds without lying. And then in the commotion, we leave a high quality wireless microphone on him. And in the commotion, my camera operator forgets to hit stop record. So while the camera’s in the backseat of the rental car, it’s still recording the private conversations on the wireless microphone inside the astronaut’s house with the door closed, where him and his son are discussing whether or not to call the CIA to have me killed.

Do you want to call the CIA and have him whacked? Is what he says. You have the audio, correct? Yeah, it’s in my film, Astronauts Gone Wild. It’s one of the clips of my book, Moon Man. It’s interactive. All those clips you can see. It’s a broadcom. If you get the book, it kind of does them gradually. Read a chapter, go to clip one, read a chapter, go to clip two, and so forth. One of the clips is NASA saying they don’t have the technology to go through the radiation belt yet. Another clip is the, you know, threatening to be killed by the CIA.

Another clip is Bruder film synchronized with Dan Rather. Seen him say the exact opposite of the truth on national TV about one of the most important events in US History. They’re doing it again. They got away with it. They’re at large. You see, they killed Kennedy, got away with it, faked the Vietnam War, got away with it. Faked the moon landing, got away with it. They’re emboldened, they’re arrogant. They’re gangsters and criminals, murderers, liars, embezzlers, and they run the country. Really, the number one key to stopping the corruption in Washington D.C. is to prove the moon landings are fake.

For a president with guts to force one of the astronauts to confess or go to jail. He can give them all amnesty, which I’m for. But if the truth came out that the American public was duped, their hard earned money, their sweat was used to deceive them and then to pay the salaries of CIA agents, people to keep it a secret. That’s part of it. I think there’s something bigger here and I think that’s just part of it because they’re going to be introducing aliens and they need you to believe the moon landing happened because next is aliens.

And that’s going to be the biggest. Maybe it’s the other way around. Maybe they’ll tell the truth that the moon landings were fake in order for you to believe them about aliens. You see, then they’ve established truth. I don’t think they’re ever going to come clean with the moon landing, if you want my opinion. I think it’s just going to. They have to double down on that now and triple down on it to go forward with the alien card that they’re going to play. And I think that’s coming next, probably the next year, two years where they’re going to use who knows what kind of technology.

If it’s blue, was it blue beam or whatever Project Blue Beam or holograms or whatever it is that they’re gonna have to really AI all of it, really push the alien card on the American people, on the global population. They cannot say they, they lied about the moon landing. I mean, I, that’s just my opinion. I think that’s what’s coming next. What’s your thoughts? Well, how many congressional hearings are there about who shot JFK? Because in 1976 the Senate Intelligence Committee on Assassination said there was a second gunman. So they admitted. The federal government admitted a murderer of the United States is at large.

So why isn’t he number one on the FBI’s 10 most wanted list? So they admitted that was the case, but there’s no hearings about that. We have 3,000 architects and engineers saying it’s mechanically impossible for a pinhole to go through a grid skyscraper like an airplane and cause its collapse. Just look at Oklahoma City bombing. Half the building blown away, still rock solid, and yet nothing is done about that. No hearings about that. Where are the hearings about the moon landings that they falsified, embezzled money, misled the American people? Zero. So there are hearings about UFOs.

Well, why are there hearings about UFOs and none of these other top secret events because they want us to believe in UFOs. They’re juicy morsels giving people what they want to hear. Von Braun, the Nazi who faked the moon landing, told his best friend that the federal government is planning on faking an alien invasion. Boom. There you go. My personal opinion is if 75% of Americans believe Oswald did not kill Kennedy, Right. There’s a vast majority of Americans doubt the integrity of the federal government. So I believe what they could do, if they’re clever and gutsy, is they come forward and they admit they said, we’re going to do a house cleaning, we’re going to tell the truth, that the moon landing is fake, and then you trust them.

Imagine if a political party came forward, was started, and they acknowledged they have an astronaut, confessed, they pardon him, or however they want to reveal it. And that’s the party you would trust. That’s the leader. You know who they would trust right now? Trump. If Trump. They would trust Trump. And then if they say, you know, and then here’s something else we want to disclose. We’ve been in touch with aliens since 1947 and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I would be more inclined to believe them to tell you the truth. If they told the truth about the moon landing, I think many other people would think the same thing.

Look, they’ve come clean about that. That was pretty embarrassing. So if they’re coming clean about this, it must be true. So I wrote a second book, if you go to sabral.com it’s called aliens from Planet X. I did a decade or more research into aliens and rogue planets, and I researched the top two UFO researchers and came to the conclusion that they came to. It’s like, I’m not a virologist. So if a virologist who’s the VP of Pfizer concludes certain things, I trust him. And so I studied the top two UFO researchers and they came to this conclusion.

UFOs are real, but they’re not from outer space. They’re from Earth. Inner space. I mean, inner. Inner terrestrials. I guess we could go. Not extraterrestrials. Inner terrestrials. Correct. And they’re demonic. And so the Bible talks about this, that there’s a bloodline of. That’s Luciferian. It says in Genesis 3:15 that God will put war between the seed or future offspring of Adam and. And the seed future offspring of Lucifer. It says in Genesis 6 that there were inbreeding between fallen angels and humans that created a deformity as giants. And that’s what the Bible talks about. God says in Leviticus, I think 19:19, not to cross breed species.

Right. Humans and angels, for example. And when you do it anyway, you take a horse and, and a donkey to get a mule. The mule is sterile. Yeah. The mule can’t breed. Correct. So every time you want a mule, you got to go back to those two and do it again and again and again. This is why alien abductions harvest sperm and eggs. Because they’re sterile, they have to constantly go back to the source, you see. And so this is what my second book is about. It has I think 29 video links that are interactive. And then half of the book talks about rogue planets.

They’re now saying that there’s as many rogue planets in the universe as there are those that orbit stars. And prior to 705 BC, the year of the Earth was 360 days. Right? That’s 12 months, 30 days every month. That’s why there’s 360 degrees on a compass. That’s why the Hebrew calendar is 360 days. And after 705 BC something happened. The Earth was pulled slightly farther away from the sun, causing it to be 365 and a quarter. Now prior to that, let’s just say right now we had a 360 day year. 30 months times 30 days times 12 months.

How could you argue there’s no God? How could that possibly happen by accident? How could you have 12 months, 12 tribes of Israel, and each month be exactly 30 days? It has to be by design. So planet X, Lucifer, you see, that’s the name of the planet. Planet Lucifer destroyed the testimony of God’s creation. You see, it’s symbolic. It’s what came between the sun and the Earth. When Jesus was on the cross, it eclipsed the entire Earth for three hours, which means it’s 6.66 times bigger than the Earth. And if it came around once before in a comet like orbit, it could come around again in the last days.

And even though it’s a dead planet, if it comes around again and aliens appear, they can with misdirection, claim they came from the planet as their spaceship, when in fact they’re demonic and been here all along. Because how could you really prove if someone’s an alien from some light planet light years away, 300 light years away, it’s a claim that can’t be verified. Right, right. And then I hear all along, you know, I’ll be honest, I’ll even go a bit further than that. And, and I have a big question mark on all of it. I, I, I, I think there could be permanent.

I, I, I, I, I, I don’t even believe anything they tell me that’s out there. Bart. I mean everything that you’re saying, I mean I, I go right back to the Bible. I go right back to the Bible and I, I think these outer space aliens, what they’re getting ready to tell us is invading humanity or the Earth or whatever, Three Eye Atlas, the whole thing, they’re conditioning us right now with ancient aliens and three eye atlas. The whole thing. I think 100% it’s biblical and it’s, they’re the fallen. And I think, yeah, I think that’s why the moon landing is so important.

That’s why it was so important is for such a time as what’s coming. Yeah, it’s interesting. The ancient alien, I thought it was a one time TV special. And then I find out like three and a half years of programs saying the same thing over and over again. The reason why that program was started is they did a blood study about 20 years ago called the Eve Project where they took blood samples from every nationality on Earth. Eskimos and Swedes and Africans and Americans. And with the new DNA technology, they can trace it backwards in time.

And they scientifically proved that every human who ever lived is alive or will ever live came from one woman, no one before her. She suddenly appeared just like the Bible says. Wow. So the people around the world don’t want you to believe in God. So they said, okay, we can’t deny that fact, but we’re not made by God, we’re made by aliens from outer space. So they don’t ask the question that I would ask as a third grader in three and a half years, which is, okay, if we were made by aliens, then who made the aliens? And according to, I think it’s Isaiah 14, it says that Lucifer wanted to ascend to the throne of God.

So if fallen angels are aliens, then what they’re really saying is mankind was made by fallen angels, their leader is Lucifer. So what they’re saying is mankind was made by Lucifer instead of God. You see what they’re saying? Yeah. And one of these clips@sabrell.com shows all these political world leaders doing the devil hand sign and 666 hand sign, there’s 666 and the Google logo, there’s 666 on the world Economic Forum logo hidden in plain sight. And then they look for it and then it’s. Then you can’t not see it. It’s like, oh, it’s right there. They firmly believe where we are going to.

They’re going to be going to war with God and they’re going to win. I mean, they really do believe this. I’m not going to place that bet. You know, they say, don’t put your eggs all in one basket, but I do. All my eggs are in the basket of God and I repent daily. You know, we are saved by grace and we take hold of that grace by repenting. John 3:16, People love to quote. Yeah, Bring up the CERN logo if you want to, Alex. Right. Bring up the CERN logo. Bring up the World Economic Forum logo is a good one on everything.

So while you’re doing that bringing up World Economic forum logo, John 3:16 says, Whoever believes will not perish. Okay? But it later says, this is belief is to obey. If you obey, there’s 666, then you really believe. If you don’t obey, then you don’t believe. Jesus says, why do you call me Lord? Lord like Charles Duke does, but not do what I say, which is repent of lying. And then after John 3:16, it says, but this is the verdict. Light has come into the world. But men love darkness instead of light because their deeds are evil and will not come into the light for fear their deeds will be exposed.

So you have to repent in order to take hold of God’s grace. Both are true. We are saved by grace. It says, Jesus died for the whole world, but most of the world continues to hold on to their sin and therefore cannot take hold of God’s grace. It says, repent and be baptized. You have to repent in order to take hold of God’s grace. You told Charles Duke, I believe his name is the astronaut. Like, if you claim to be a Christian, come clean right now. You gave him the option. You, you gave him that choice.

And he just still went like, I don’t understand why he keeps thinking I didn’t go to the. Well, we. What are we here for? What are we here for? I was like, wow, man, what an act. You can’t look at the Owen world, the Owen Economic. The Owen Forum, this is a multi billion dollar organization that can make their logo any way they want or bring it full screen. They’re making a six out of the O in world. A six out of the. Oh, there it is. And a six out of the O in forum 666 by the people who run the World.

You know, it’s hard for me to believe. I mean, it’s so preposterous. They faked the moon landing. But they did. The faking of the moon landing is more historically significant than if they’d actually gone. And if we don’t admit it, it’s like having cancer and ignoring it. It’s hard to believe that they did it, but they did. And it’s hard to believe that the people of the world actually worship Lucifer. But we just showed you proof that they did. There’s 666 in Google, 666 in CERN, 666 in the world Economic Forum. These are the billionaires who run the world.

And what’s God’s first commandment? Before sin entered the world, what did God say do or don’t do before sin even entered the world? No, he said, be fruitful and multiply. And what are the people who run the world who are Luciferian? They want. They want to do the exact opposite. Because they’re outnumbered. The sons of Adam outnumber them. Do you realize a half a million children go missing every year in the United States? 5 million children every 10 years. They just disappear. Where do they go? What happened to them? Yeah, why is that not the number one story on the evening news? Until that problem is solved, this really is a spiritual war.

This is it. I mean, people like Trump or whoever need to live for God and not man. It might be embarrassing, it might be whatever, but it’s the truth. If the truth makes us free, then lies make us slaves. We can’t live in a country that constantly says the moon landings are real when they’re not. We can’t. That is not a country I want to be a part of. That is not a country that God loves. That is not a country that God will bless. And it will inevitably fall unless the house is cleaned. It has to be done, or we’re going down the toilet.

That’s just the way that it is. Bart, this has been an amazing podcast. I really appreciate you coming on. I know Alex probably he feels the same way. Alex, you there? Wow, thanks. All right. Yeah, I’m liking it back. That’s pretty good. I got as. I, I mean, I, I, I didn’t know it was gonna take so many twists and turns out, but this has been an epic podcast. One more time, could you put on Bart’s website so everyone can see it? I’ll also put a link down there below for Bart, I think you’re doing an amazing job trying to wake people up.

You’ve. You’re definitely risking your life, so I commend you. You definitely have a warrior spirit. Bart, I really appreciate you. Come on. Coming on my program. It’s an honor for me. Sabrell.coms I b r e l.com folks, go over there and load up on some information and get his books. This, this man’s doing a huge, huge honor to humanity. I appreciate you. Bart. Coming on. Thank you very much, sir. No problem. God bless. And we have to remember we’re gonna die anyway. Die as coward on a good note. Or do we wanna. Or do we want to die heroically? We’re going to die regardless.

I turned down this project originally for fear of my life. And then after reading the Bible five times, I changed my mind. Because the faking of the moon landing is more significant than if they had actually gone. And that truth needs to be known to mankind to show us our error. Otherwise we’ll die from that error. Thank you, Bart. God bless everybody. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for tuning in.
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