SPIES AND LIES: ITS THE AMERICAN WAY | Gerald Celente

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Summary

➡ On January 29, 2025, Gerald Celente interviewed Judge Andrew Napolitano about the potential loss of privacy rights under the new Trump administration. They discussed ZeroClick, a software that can access personal digital devices without the owner’s knowledge, which was banned from being sold in the U.S. under Biden’s presidency. However, with Trump’s reelection, there are concerns that the ban might be lifted. They also discussed the history of spying in America, which became prevalent after World War II with the enactment of the National Security Act of 1947, leading to the creation of the CIA and other spying entities, and how these agencies have violated their original agreements and invaded the privacy of American citizens.
➡ The text discusses various political issues, including the manipulation of public opinion against Russia, the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, and the role of the U.S. in these matters. It criticizes the fear tactics used during the Cold War and questions the effectiveness of current U.S. foreign policy. The text also expresses concern about the potential for escalating conflict in the Middle East, particularly involving Israel and Iran.

 

Transcript

Hello everybody, this is Gerald Celente, and it’s Wednesday, January 29th, 2025, and we have with us again, a man of men, someone with real heart and soul and spirit of what used to be called America, when there was a thing called the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. We’ve got no rights anymore, and rip up that Constitution. I’m in charge. I’m the president. I’m whoever. We have Judge Andrew Napolitano with us today again, and Judge, thanks for being here, and you have a very important article coming out. We have a new Trump administration that’s taken over, and you think we’re going to lose more of our rights, or is he going to give them back to us? You know, Gerald, good morning.

It’s always a pleasure to be with you, as you know, no matter what we’re talking about. One of the few decent things that Joe Biden did in his presidency was to prevent the government from buying, and to prevent an Israeli company from selling anywhere in the United States, something called ZeroClick. ZeroClick is insidious software that allows the owner of it or the possessor of it to gain access to your mobile device, your desktop, your laptop, your mainframe without tricking you into clicking onto a link. It is the most intrusive software on the planet, and there is no known way of identifying it.

It’s stated differently. If somebody has ZeroClick and has your ID number, they can download the entire contents of your digital device without you even knowing about it. When Biden learned that the FBI under Trump had purchased this, he ordered them not to use it. He told Congress. He did exactly the right thing. Congress called Chris Ray and then the director of the FBI. So while we didn’t buy it to use it, we bought it to see how it worked. Nobody believed when he said it. But the FBI agreed not to use it. The Israeli people wouldn’t take it back.

So the FBI, you’re ready for this? It sounds like Tony Soprano. The FBI stored it in a warehouse in New Jersey where it’s still there. Fast forward to Trump’s reelection. It’s the tail end of the Biden administration. The Biden people want a ceasefire deal. The Trump people want a ceasefire deal. Biden wants to take credit for it. Trump wants to take credit for it. He sends Steve Whitcoff, his billionaire real estate developer buddy from New York, who he says is a great negotiator, and bingo, there’s an agreement. Well, there’s an agreement. There’s also a side agreement not reduced to writing.

And according to Israeli sources and openly discussed in the American and Israeli intelligence communities, the side deal is, you guessed it, the Israelis can resume selling zero-click. Well, it’s hard for me to imagine that a president who was victimized by warrantless spying by the FBI before he was president, by the FBI while he was in the White House, is going to unleash this warrantless spying on the American public. But that is what’s happening. You know, you have an article coming out tomorrow, A Republic of Spies, and of course you write about this, and about the deal that he made with Netanyahu.

And you go on to discuss that this was never a part of America until after World War II. We did not engage in spying except during wartime, which is perfectly understandable, absolutely constitutional, and certainly legal when we’re spying on the enemy. Until 1947, when Harry Truman, with the support of Republicans and Democrats, turned us into a surveillance state by enacting the National Security Act of 1947, which founded the CIA and spawned the 17 other spying entities that the federal government now operates. But in order to get the votes, Gerald, of both Republicans and Democrats in the Congress, Truman and the drafters of the legislation had to make certain agreements.

One, the CIA would never operate in the United States. Two, it would never be engaged in law enforcement in the United States. Three, it would only produce evidence from foreign sources. And four, it would never be physically present in the United States. All four of those have today been violated. The CIA is in your kitchen. I kid you not. When he was the director of the CIA, David Petraeus, that David Petraeus, gave a speech boasting about how effective CIA spying was on microchips in microwaves and dishwashers. And an agent for the CIA who was listening to the speech, furious about what they were doing, taped it and revealed the contents of the speech.

So we know the CIA is in your kitchen. We also know from two governors to whom I spoke that they told me that the CIA was located in their state houses and the CIA people in their state houses told them we’re in all 50 state houses. So the culture of spying is so endemic to the American government today, so contrary to law, so contrary to the Constitution, so violent of the Fourth Amendment. Everybody does it, even the present president who was egregiously victimized by this spying before he was president and during his first term. That’s where we are today, Gerald, and that’s where I wrote this column.

You know, it’s disgusting what’s happened. You mentioned that guy, Petraeus. How about Betrayed Us? That’s what he should be named. David betrayed us. An arrogant, arrogant, arrogant piece of crap, as far as I’m concerned. This is a slime ball, the same guy that was the, brought over there by Obama, the Nobel Peace of Crap Prize winner to Afghanistan. The Afghan troop surge. And he was the head of it, bragging about the victory that they were going to have. That little lying piece of scum. David betrayed us. That’s who he is. I’m sure he lived a regret to give that speech.

In fact, six months later, he was no longer the director of the CIA, but it was very, very telling what he inadvertently revealed. I mean, when I wrote a piece about this, back when he said this, it was called, Is the CIA in your kitchen? People at Fox thought I was crazy. What do you mean, it’s the CIA in their kitchen? I said, did you read the piece? No. Well, read the piece. Because they’re in your dishwasher and your microwave. Not, of course, physically there, but digitally there. Why do they need to be there? Why does the CIA need to know about the conversations that you and I and everybody watching and listening to us now have in our private homes? Why does the CIA know what conversations state governors are having? This one governor, I can tell you who it was because he’s told the story.

It was Jesse Ventura. His first day in office is the governor of Minnesota. Yeah, he’s a good guy. His assistant said that somebody here wants to see you. We don’t know who he is. He’s got an office in the basement, says it’s private. Ventura says, I’m not afraid of him. Bring him in. He’s not supposed to see anybody alone, but this guy comes in. He says, I’m here from the Central Intelligence Agency. Ventura says, get the F out of here. And the guy says, OK, I’ll leave, governor. But my replacement will come and he or she will not introduce him or herself to you and you won’t know who it is.

So it’s probably better off that you know that I’m here and know who I am. Are you guys everywhere? Well, we’re in the other 49 state houses as well. Now, he told that story to me on air. So it’s obviously public. I don’t want to tell you who the other governor was, but he told me a similar story as well. But this other governor is no longer the governor of his state either. But it just shows you what has become of this country. And even though we have a president who was victimized by it, he still goes along with it.

Why, why, why? The CIA must have the intelligence community must have such dirt on people that everybody’s afraid of it. Justin Scalia told me that the government was spying on the court and he knew that every phone call he had. And he once said to me, including the one I’m having with you now, Andrew, it was being listened to by the feds. You know, when you look at this, again, what what it costs us. What since 1947, probably several trillion dollars in investing in these. Another thing, Gerald, the Constitution says no money shall be spent from the public treasury except that which is approved by Congress and recorded in a public journal.

Try to find the public journal that records what the intelligence community spends. You can’t find it. It doesn’t exist. And look at the great accomplishments that they’ve achieved. Name me one. Name me one that the NSA, Homeland Security CIA, tell me the great achievements that they in order in order to answer that question, the FBI engages in stings. They find these loner dopes and they persuade to think that they’re going to attack the government and they give the guy talcum powder and he thinks it’s an explosive. And then they have the cameras ready from the local television station and they swoop in the last minute and they save this guy from igniting the talcum powder and they claim they’ve saved the day.

Yeah, this stuff is farcical and they do it over and over and over again. I don’t know if Trump’s nominee, Cash Patel, is going to allow this to continue. I hope he stops it before he was the nominee. He condemned it. Again, there was someone that happened over here in Newburgh, remember that one was something like that, too, where they set these guys up. Yeah, interesting guys. They gave him money and then they make a big deal. But again, they’ve accomplished nothing. And in your article, and again, everybody got to go to Judge and Freedom, by the way.

The people that Judge Napolitano has on, you’re not going to find anywhere else what they talk about, how they talk about it, the facts that they’re giving, and the articles that he puts out. And you’re going about the whole CIA thing over here, and again, how it began. And it began to say, we just helped Russia defeat Germany in World War II. And our Russian ally, which was bankrupt and had lost 27 million troops and civilians, suddenly became so strong it needed to be kept in check. And you go on to say how they began this thing, and Ed Truman, in 1945, bombs away over Nakasaki and Hiroshima.

One of his targets was the Roman Catholic Cathedral. And I’m thinking about this, and how they taught us to hate the Russians. And again, nobody, when you think about America won World War II. No, it was the Russians that defeated the Germans first, after they killed almost 27 million. And it was both of us, both countries together. But you remember when we were kids, how they taught us to hate the Russians, they had a fighting under death? Oh, God, I remember my second grade teacher demonizing Nikita Khrushchev as if he were a monster of some sort.

And all he was trying to do was to keep those American missiles out of Turkey aimed at Moscow. Never heard that in the press. I didn’t know about that until many, many years later. Remember they had us hiding under a desk? Yes. I remember that. And Adam Baum went off. Yes. You scared the hell out of me. When I was a kid, every time I’d see an airplane, I was afraid. Yes. Imagine the stupidity, and it’s the same missiles in charge, hiding under a desk in case an Adam Baum goes off. It’s going to make a damn difference if you’re under a desk.

We shouldn’t laugh because this technique imbued in generations of Americans a visceral hatred for Russia, which now manifests itself in things like $260 billion of military equipment wasted in Ukraine, and 750,000 to a million Ukrainian young men slaughtered because of this type of hatred. So we can laugh about the foolish things they taught us, but it worked. It terrified us. When I was in high school, they didn’t think we were too big to go under the desk. They used to have us stand against the wall with our hands behind our back. And they’re saying, and if you see a flash, don’t look at it.

If I see a flash, I’ll be dust in seconds. Right. That was the stupidity of these arrogant pieces of scum. And they just keep selling more and more hatred. But you’re talking about the Ukraine war. But listen, let’s face it. Trump ended it. He said he was going to end it in 24 hours after he got elected, so it’s over. So what are you talking about? Great war anymore. Still sending equipment there. And he’s increasing the level of domestic spying. So the more things change, the more they stay the same. So where’s the outrage that he lied is lied.

He said he’s going to end it in 24 hours. Then after he got elected, I’m going to end this war before I even get into office. Oh, Gerald, this will aggravate you even more, even though I’m sure you know this. One of his earliest executive orders was to stop all foreign aid to all countries, except Ukraine, Egypt and Israel. I know it’s in the Trends of Journalists Week. And again, look what’s going on. Oh, everything’s going to be fine in Israel. There’s just stealing more land. Israel says it will occupy southern Syria, quote, indefinitely. That just came out.

Well, that is not consistent with either the ceasefire with Hezbollah or the ceasefire with Hamas. But what is Netanyahu care? I mean, he’s a notorious liar. And murderer. Right. And visitor to the White House next week. Oh, by the way, they also said in one of the articles I just read this morning that, and I’m totally supporting of it, Trump says to get all our American troops out of Syria. That would be great. But how are you going to spill the oil if you don’t have the troops over there? Correct. But again, this whole thing in Lebanon, they’ve killed, by the way, since the ceasefire, they’ve killed over 100 Lebanese people, and they’re not allowing the Lebanese to go back into southern Lebanon.

Israel’s not. I don’t know how this is going to end, because Trump has beholden to that Mossad asset, Miriam Adelson. Utterly and totally beholden to her. I mean, she was seated right behind Hillary Clinton on the dais at Trump’s inauguration. And Trump himself chose who was going to sit on the dais and where they would sit. No, so he’s going to be coming to the United States next week, and they’ll probably give him another big round of applause like the last time they brought him in. How many standing ovations did he get? Oh, he had 58 standing ovations in a 56-minute talk.

The core of which attacked Americans for exercising the freedom of speech. So we’ll have to see where this is going to go and hopefully, you know, go in the right direction. But I don’t think it’s going to. I think Israel is just going to keep ramping up this war. And I’m concerned that Iran is next on the ticket. And if that happens, it’s going to be, you know, it will be horrible. Agreed. Agreed. But we’ll keep monitoring and keep talking about it. Okay, Judge, thank you so much for being on. Thank you so much for all that you do.

Remember, everybody, go to judging freedom because this is a man, the judge, that knows the facts, gives them to you, and the people that he has on. Two of your biggest admirers today, Phil Giraldi and Colonel Douglas McGregor. Oh, yeah. Yeah, give him my best and thank you again, Judge. Thank you, Gerald. All the best. All the best. [tr:trw].

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