It is a… Find out where Ed Snowden was, you know? So things changed. By the way, I had a wonderful dinner with Ed, and he’s thriving. He has two sons, four and five. He’s got a newly son life. His wife, it’s a love story. His wife came and joined, his lover came and joined him. They’re married and they’re living, they’re living quietly, but they’re having a really good existence. He’d like to come back, of course, in hopes for a pardon. But it was a wonderful dinner. I had a real good chance to renew acquaintances.

Oh, good. He’s a great human being and a bona fide American hero, I think, at some point of historic proportions. Do the Russian people, by and large, still support the special military operation? Can you tell? Or are they losing patience with its duration? Well, just another word about Ed. He does want to come back trying to put the things in motion so that he’d be he’d be pardoned. But he’s very active in staying up with things. And he gave us a briefing on AI that even I could understand, complicated as it was.

And with Oliver there, there was a comradeship. Of course, Oliver made a movie, Snowden, so they knew him well. That was just a very warm thing. [tr:trw].

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