Mon Memorial Day 27May24 UNABRIDGED | The David Knight Show
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Using free speech to free minds. You’re listening to to the David Knight show as the clock strikes 13. It’s Monday, May 27, year of our lord 2024. Well, today we decided in the last minute to take the holiday off with family and friends. So we’re going to do a best of interviews broadcast, you know, for Memorial Day. It’s a time that we remember those who died serving their country. But does the government value those who serve? We’re going to begin today with our best of interviews. We’re going to begin with Davis Jantz, who defended military service members from unconstitutional unlawful orders to force vaccinate them.
And of course, the fight is still going on for over a quarter of a million military personnel. We’re going to talk about the film seals beat Biden that tells that story. Next we have Katherine Austin Fitts joining us to talk about the rising resistance to digital slavery and the key to that fight, financial transaction, privacy. Aaron Day will be joining us to talk about the fight against CBDC and Jay Warner Wallace on his new book, the truth and True crime. Stay with us. We’ll be right back. Have a good holiday. I don’t know that I’ve ever done anything or been involved in a team effort, because that’s what it was, a team effort that had more return on investment than that one in which we engaged it.
The capital of Afghanistan. Bell to the top. If you want a better new normal anytime soon, Americans need to put on a mask. He told me that there was no chance that my religious accommodation or that any religious accommodation would be granted. And sure enough, within hours, I was terminated. I had no income. I had no healthcare benefits. I had no job. They come in handshaking, angry, telling us that they don’t want to hear about our rattlesnake religion, saying that we never wanted to be seals and that we’re not courageous enough to fight war. Anything below 95% capacity in a rate is considered critical.
My rating, the rescue swimmer, we were at 89%. And the commandant is ready to cut these guys loose over a vaccine mandate for an untested shot. The oath is not for the easy time. The oath is for the hard times. And it’s whenever you have to make that choice between doing what the constitution says or doing what someone else is telling me to do. Be a patriot. Protect your fellow citizens. Citizens. I took an oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States. Every military member does that. So if military members rights are not protected, they’re not protected for the rest of society.
These are the individuals that are actually willing to risk their lives to fight for the constitution. Are you willing? Would you be willing to throw your stars on the table over a principal? Would you be willing? And that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter, so help me God. And I meant it. Sealsbeatbiden.com and that is a very powerful documentary. And you saw our guest in that documentary, David Schottz, because he was involved in that fight. And we’re going to talk about that. And that’s what we were showing at the beginning, the trailer for the new documentary that’s coming out, talking about this struggle that you’ve been involved in very heavily from the very beginning.
You’re in the trailer there. Seals beat Biden, that documentary. Tell us a little bit about that documentary, and then we’ll talk a little bit about what the current status is of, of these things. So tell us a little bit about the documentary. Davis yeah, absolutely. So seals beat Biden was a concept that was developed. It’s a relatively new news media outlet called the Republic Sentinel. And they came to me, they came to former Navy SEALs and others and said, hey, we want to tell this story. We want to tell the story of what happened. We want to do it well.
We want to honor these people, but we also want to do it in a way that we can prevent things like this from happening and also shine a light on the implications of everything that happened with the COVID mandate on the rights of all american citizens. So that was sort of what, what was behind the project. So the Republic Sentinel was fantastic. What’s out now currently is part one. It’s a three part series. I’m not exactly sure when the second part is going to be released. It should be released very soon. And then there’ll be a final third part that’s released as well.
So you can follow what’s going on@sealsbeatbiden.com. dot it’s free. You just have to give them your email address in order to log in there, but you can set up an account and watch it free. It’s very, very well done. And I think some of the most powerful aspects of it are just telling the stories of individuals like Asa Miller, one of the Navy SEALs I represented in this, talks about what it was like for those guys to go through this talks about people being put in isolation, being essentially in solitary confinement, what it was like for him.
And Ace is in a great position to tell that story because he was one of the Navy SEALs from the very, very beginning that said, I don’t believe this is right. I don’t believe this is constitutional. We need to take a stand, not just for ourselves, but for everyone in the military that’s afraid to speak up because they’re not a Navy SeAL. And for the american public. And he was willing to be court martialed. He and I sat in a room together and I said, if you don’t follow this order, you understand what could happen. And he was ready and willing to be court martialed if that’s what it takes.
So I’m so glad that he’s able to be in it and tell part of his story. And there’s other people that were critically involved in sort of rallying people to this cause and creating just not just a rally point, but a way for people to get this information out there and have the courage to take a stand within the military. So it went from, you know, isolated individual military members working on this on their own to at one point, and I think we’ve talked about this number before, but even the DoD admitted that there were two, over 260,000 military members that were not compliant when the mandate came out.
Right? Over 260,000. That’s over 13% of the total military force that were not compliant by the time the mandate came down. And that’s the DoD’s numbers. So how far we trust that? I’m not sure how far we go on that. But SEALs B. Biden is an effort to sort of tell the story of what happened. And then as you get into episode three, I’m told the goal of that episode is really to talk about the future and how we take stands against things like this in the future and learn from what happened. That’s excellent. And it all begins with the individuals.
And, you know, I’ve seen some articles. There was one I saw the other day, somebody said, you know, there. There are more people involved in all of this than you think. You know, just as they want to make everybody think, well, you’re the only one who had a family member die from this shot, or you’re the only one who got paralyzed from this shot. No, it was happening to everybody. They did such a great job of trying to isolate and atomize and, you know, cover this up with everybody. You point out 13%, 260,000 people, even according to their numbers.
And of course, you look at the things that they’re doing with the Bureau of Labor Statistics, how they rigged those numbers last week. It’s just amazing. But they always rig the numbers. They rigged the COVID numbers, they rigged the protest numbers and all the rest of this. But it really did come down to the strong, to the individual. When you make this stand, each and every one of us is going to have to make that stand as an individual and make that individual decision. And I like the way the documentary trailer started with that vice admiral, I think it was, who said, the most important fight he’s been in, and it is true, because this is a fight for our country or fight for our constitution and for everyone’s individual rights.
And I like the way they came back to him and he said, you got to be willing to throw those stars on the table over the principal. And the sad thing about it that bothers me, Davis, is the fact that they have pushed so many good people like that out of the military. I think that’s a big part of the agenda. What do you think? Yeah, you know, and I didn’t want to believe that, right? And very early on in this, people started talking about a purge or otherwise. But I was, you know, I was a jag, I was a lawyer in the military.
I was a lieutenant colonel. I submitted my religious accommodation request. I trusted the process. And then it was denied. And it was denied improperly. It was denied for the wrong reasons. And so I had great pause. But I’m like, okay, I’m going to appeal my own, you know, religious accommodation. I’m going to help everyone else do it. And I quickly realized from the beginning they weren’t going to be granting these religious accommodation requests. The goal was 100% compliance, no matter what. And then it doesn’t take very much imagination to start thinking about, okay, if you have a significant portion, you know, 10, 13, 15, whatever the real number was, percent of the force that is objecting to not just to being vaccinated, but being.
But objecting to the way this is being done and the way it’s being forced on the american public and on the military for their moral, ethical and religious reasons. Then you have to realize, wow, who’s leaving the military then? It’s people that are willing to question orders. It’s people that are willing to say, no, I took an oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States. I’m not going to turn my back on that. And people don’t fully understand. The documentary helped us tell this story, but I can just rattle off examples of how this policy was in direct violation of constitutional rights and in direct violation of federal law, and they knew that and they refused to stop.
I mean, the best example and it’s almost humorous if it wasn’t so serious for so many people. But the Department of Defense inspector general, the inspector general’s office, supposed to be the watchdog for the Department of Defense, and they work for the man. So you have to wonder how independent they really are. But even they did a cursory review of the religious accommodation process and they said, Department of Defense, you are not doing this correctly. It is impossible for you to be doing the individualized review that’s required by law. There are not enough hours in the day, days in the week, you know, weeks in a month in order to do this because you’re spending, you know, they did a calculation.
It’s like even if you were working ten hour days with no breaks, you’re spending minutes at most on each one of these individual accommodation requests. That’s not what the law requires. The DoD IG wrote a memo, sent it to Secretary Austin, the secretary of defense, and said, you need to see this because our initial analysis is you’re violating the constitutional rights and you may be violating federal law by the way you’re doing this. And it was ignored. Yeah, yeah. It was ignored by the secretary of defense. And no one even knew that that memo existed until it came out through a FOIA request almost two months later.
In other words, they were kicking people out, ending people’s careers, continuing to do this without even, like, a strategic pause to say, okay, hey, we need to look into this. They simply didn’t care. And so that, you know, if there’s no other lesson that we can learn from the documentary, from what happened with the COVID mandate in the military, is that we had an executive branch and military leadership that were willing to ignore federal law and the constitutional rights of military members to accomplish a goal which was 100% compliance with an experimental vaccine. Yeah, yeah. And we had a lot of people who were scientists or people in the medical community, and they didn’t wake up until they’re working on it and said, yeah, we got this other thing over here.
Maybe this works, and maybe that works. And that happened in many different ways, many different places, and they were immediately shut down. We have one solution, and you’re going to do this. It’s like, wait a minute, there’s something wrong here, right? And so you’re seeing that everywhere. But fundamentally, what happened to people in the military? It’s essentially the same thing that we see in private companies or we see in the hospitals, for example. The government bribes people with money, and then it says, and then you’re going to do this or we’re going to take that money away.
And so it ultimately comes back to what that vice admiral said. You got to be willing to throw those stars on the table over your principal. And that was the same thing that happened to nurses and hospitals. You know, they hold your career, they hold your livelihood and your lifeline up to you, and you have to make that decision. Am I going to stand by the money and the career, or am I going to stand by my principal? And that’s why this is a story for everybody. The military or outside the military. And a lot of people have gone through this fire.
And the good thing about this is they’ve come out on the other side. And I’ve talked to so many people who have absolutely no regrets about whether they lost their job. Many of them found something else to do. They’re happier about that. The people who have regrets are the ones who had their arm twisted and went along with the coercion. Those are the people I see over and over again who have regrets. Yeah, absolutely. And there’s just been tremendous community built out of what happened. And, you know, this idea you were talking about earlier of isolation, you know, during this whole military fight, there were so many times when someone would call me and they’d be like, I’m the only person on my entire installation.
My chain of command is telling me I’m the only one. I’m the last holdout. What do I do? I’m all alone here. And I’m like, nope, you’re not alone. I have talked to five other people that are your same installation, that are being told the same thing by their command. They’re being lied to about that. But just even the idea, and that was part of the whole idea of what the Navy SEALs like Asa Miller did and were willing to do, is they were willing to risk their careers in order to get the word out there, hey, you’re not alone.
You’re not alone. You’re not isolated. There is a whole community of people that are taking a stand. And the idea is courage is contagious. And one of the things I think is a difference, and maybe this is hyperbole, maybe it’s not. But people like Asa Miller being willing to take a stand and say no and not comply is a difference. Other people throughout society that took a stand, restaurant owners, gym owners, doctors, nurses, small businesses, they took these stands. And the fact that they were unwilling to comply, churches as well, is why we didn’t have concentration camps like they had in Australia, in the United States, right? Because there was not the political will to do that because there was enough people, even though it was a small percentage, saying no and not complying with this government overreach.
And so the government didn’t have the political ability to carry out as much as they could or would have without that. That’s what we need to learn from this. We need to have communities of people willing to come together, willing to rally at the local level, using the doctrine of lesser magistrates to take these. And if nothing else, I think that’s a lot of what is hoped to be, you know, taught and talked about through the documentary. Yes, they’re so focused on speech and controlling our communications with each other because they want to do that isolation thing.
And, you know, when you look at the military, I think about it, how much they, they’ve got to be. It’s got to be an especially difficult thing for people in the military because they spend so much time trying to create this cohesiveness. You’re part of a unit. You know, you’re not just an individual out here. And that was part of what you others were saying about this. By isolating these people and making them the other, you’re really harming that kind of cohesiveness. But I imagine the people who are being ostracized and isolated over all this stuff, they really feel that to a greater degree than somebody who is just working in a civilian job, because in a civilian job, you’re not trained to have that kind of a team unit idea.
And now you are kind of leaving the team and betraying the team is the way they’re portraying it to people, wasn’t it? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that was part of the pressure that was put on myself and so many military members. And when you get down to people like Navy SEALs, the team, the cohesiveness of that team, that small unit tactics, all of that comes together. And it absolutely was. There was a lot of pressure put on individuals to say, well, everybody else is doing it. Just go along, go along, go along. And not everyone else was doing it, which was part of this.
But the other thing is, you know, again, you have to understand these individuals, so many were motivated by the fact that they believed this was wrong and all they did was start asking questions. Right? That’s all a lot of us did is just ask some questions. And you weren’t even allowed to ask questions. As soon as you started to ask questions, then you were, you know, you were faced with tremendous pressure. And, you know, I’ve seen it over and over and over again. Where all just the mere fact that you’re asking questions has been met with challenges from the military, isolation from the military.
And it went past Covid. I’m still trying to fix people who lost their security clearance not because, you know, the mandate was repealed, so they were in good standing with the military again, but because they had written a detailed memo to their commander explaining why they felt it was unlawful to order military members to receive an experimental, you know, medical procedure, a medical product under federal law. Why? They believe that then they were being challenged as being disloyal or exercising poor judgment, and they’re trying to revoke their security clearances. So most of those cases so far, we’ve won and we’ve gotten the security clearance back, but that was sort of like the next level.
And again, when you see things like that, you start to say, that really does feel like a purge. Then if you’re not just. If you’re not just saying, oh, you survived the COVID mandate, but now we’re coming after your security clearance because you dared say that you think this order might be unlawful. You know, you’re not allowed to do that. That’s the exact opposite of the way our military was built and designed and just the DNA of our military. We used to have a military that really focused on the small unit, the platoon, the platoon sergeant, and individual freedom of action within your area of authority, even on the battlefield.
We’ve won battles historically as a nation because it didn’t matter if a small unit was cut off from the chain of command or communication. They had the freedom, and they were expected to exercise good judgment and carry on the mission even without a general officer telling them what to do. That was the difference between the allied military on D Day and the german military. No one would wake up Hitler to release the tanks on D Day, or the Germans may have pushed us off the beaches. But again, there was this command structure where they had no freedom of action.
That’s what we’ve moved to in our military. So on a very practical level, Covid exposed that punishing commanders and anyone who asks hard questions, that’s a dangerous thing. That’s something we need to be working hard on in our military as well. We need to go back to a concept that we want free thinkers who, within the structure of the law and the constitution, feel comfortable doing their job and doing it well. That’s what’s made us have the best and most powerful military when we’ve been successful. Oh, yeah. And that’s what makes our economy work. Not having central planning, not having total centralized control, and yet that is the essence of what they want to do.
Well, you’ve got a lot of different things that you do there at your website is yonce law. That’s younts law. You’ve got a lot of military experience. You help people who are christians who are being persecuted. People can also follow you on x at Davis Yonts. Y o u n t s again, and tell us a little bit about what, we’ve only got about a minute and a half. Give us a little bit of a commercial for what you do at Yahnts law. Yeah. So we are focused primarily on representing military members. So we help military members with all kinds of things rising from the level of administrative actions to court martial cases we have pushed into since COVID a lot more religious freedom issues.
So we’re able to do that and we use our experience. I’ve added another attorney to the firm, Caleb Byrd, who is a former senior army prosecutor who’s outstanding on these issues as well. So that’s our goal is really to support military members. We want to be in a position to encourage military members to do the right thing and to help them navigate the process. So that takes us all over the world, and we hope to be able to continue to do that as long as God allows it. And as you pointed out, I mean, there’s just no end to this.
They’re so tenacious. Yesterday I was talking about how Alvin Bragg, Manhattan DA he’s coming after people over Covid stuff still. And so the military is, especially, as you pointed out, taking security clearances of other people. They are out to get their revenge against anybody that push back against their narrative for centralized control, and it just keeps going. So thank you so much for what you do. David shots yachts Law.com and you can also find him on Twitter or xavisyance. Thank you so much for what you do, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you. God bless you. Thank you.
Have a good day. All right. Joining us now is Katherine Austin Fitz. Always great to talk to Katherine, and I especially want to talk to her as we go into a new year. And she’s also got, she’s working very hard to try to help people get financial transaction freedom. We’re going to talk about what that is. She’s got a tour that’s coming around Tennessee that’s going to be happening there. Katherine, in case you don’t know her, she’s president of Solari Incorporated. And that’s solari.com. that’s solari.com. she is a former assistant secretary of housing and federal housing commissioner at the US Department of Housing and Urban Development.
And the first Bush administration was the president of Hamilton Securities Group. And she has designed and closed over $25 billion worth of transactions and investments to date and has led portfolio and investment strategy for $300 billion of financial assets and liabilities. She understands the financial landscape and she is committed to liberty. So joining us now is Katherine Austin Fitz. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, David. And I’m excited because I’m coming. I’m headed to Tennessee this month, and I’m hoping when I come through, I’m spending more time on the eastern side of the state these days.
I’m going to come through and meet you. And I’d love to do that. I’d love to do that. And you got the tour that’s coming up and let’s talk about that. But first, let’s lay out what financial transaction freedom is. But let’s talk about 2024. And also, looking back at 2023, how do you see the top stories? As you were talking off air, you said you have your top stories for the year that you typically cover. What did you see as the top stories for 2023? So we are great believers in open source intelligence. It’s Larry.
And every week we pour into our databases the top headline. So we’re constantly pouring. If you do a search for the David Knight show, you’ll find a bunch of stuff. So we have a new media list and we’re pouring in headlines from all different sources. We get people sending us links all over the world. And then weekly I do a show called Money and Markets with Titus, and we pick out the top 20 stories and talk about those for that week. Then when we get to the quarter and the year. So every quarter, but the last one is the annual wrap up.
We have a team of four people who synthesize all the stories and sit down and say, okay, what are the most important stories that people, individuals, or families need to know to navigate this environment? What’s important? And every time I come into one of those efforts, and it takes us about a month to build out to the top 20 stories for the quarter of the year, I think, well, I know what’s going on. I’m on top of it. I’m watching the news. And yet we go through the process and we realize after weve collected everything different together, its like, oh, I didnt realize how big that was or how important.
Anyway, this time, normally our top story is on the financial coup d’etat or the going direct reset. This time, our top story was not only very different, but typically we put all the top 20 stories on one page. This story was so big and so long, it had to have its own page. And the other 19 stories, the second page and the title is 2023, the year of Pushback. Wow. And what I didn’t realize, David, until I pulled it all together in all the different categories, the extent of the pushback, it’s almost like 2020, we get whacked.
2021, we realize something’s fishy. 2022, we decide to take action and we start 2023. You see the lawsuits filed, you see the. The different businesses started or initiatives started. There are many different categories. But what happened is the pushback blossomed. And then if you look at how it’s blossoming and who’s doing what, what you realize is 2024 is going to be explosive. It’s beautiful. That’s going to be the case. The question is, who’s gonna be putting the plunger down? Well, that’s funny, I said when I was talking about it, because we do a recording, and it’s a mega recording with Doctor Farrell that we’ll publish next week with an analysis of all the 20 stories.
But I said, this is like a big game of Texas chicken, where the establishment is trying to centralize, and the pushback is not only pushing back, but saying, you know something? We’re going to do our own reset. I call it the building wealth reset. You’re doing the going direct reset. We’re going do the building wealth reset. We’re going to build wealth bottom up. Family wealth, community wealth. We’ve had it with you guys destroying and stealing everything. So you got these two cars going together at 60 miles an hour, and the pushback team is looking much stronger than I ever realized until we did this.
I came out of the process so enthusiastic. I think it’s going to be a great year. Or quote for the commentary for this year is from a preacher down in Texas. He said, our situation is defined by extraordinary opportunities brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. That’s like the guy who, the american general who was surrounded, and he goes, that’s good news. We can attack them in any direction, right? I guess that’s where we are right now. They’ve done their best to surround us. Well, that’s the thing. I look at it and I get frustrated because it seems like there’s so many people who don’t know.
There’s a lot more people who don’t care. And then even amongst the people who know and care, a lot of them don’t really know what to do. And that’s what I like about what you do, because you’ve got some action items to take. And especially focusing on the money part because that is such an important aspect of control. You know, it is central to the control. Yeah. So we just have subscribers. You know, we had these hats called their orange hats, and say, make cash great again. And people are sending us pictures from all over the world.
Here’s make cash great again on top of Mount Kilimanjaro. But they’re sending us pictures, including of their kids because they’re having their, giving them the kids. But we get stories from all over the world how people are using cash and sort of dialing back the systems. And it’s so inspiring to hear all these stories because not only are they using cash, but they’re beginning to engage with local businesses to talk about, okay, what are we going to do? How are we going to do? You know, they’re talking to their banks, they’re talking to their credit unions, they’re talking to the local businesses, and it’s almost like they’re coming out of the trance and getting ready to transact their way back to freedom.
Good. And it’s good. We did a great, I did a great interview in 2022 called where to stash your cash in 2022, and we’re going to redo it this month, where to stash your cash in 2024. But it’s sort of helping you build resiliency in your day to day life. And we also have a program called building wealth because, as I said, we do need a reset, but we need a reset that rebuilds and builds family wealth. And family wealth is the basis of community wealth. That’s right. The problem with what’s going on is we basically have an organized crime operation that’s stealing and taking our wealth.
So that’s got to be reversed. So you’ve got to push back against them getting financial transaction control. And then if they get that, David, they will take everything. Everything. They will take everything. So it’s slavery or freedom. But we also, when we say no, we reject your complete control. We have to take responsibility bottom up to build the kind of culture and economy that we want our kids and grandkids growing up in. That’s absolutely true. I’ve said many times, I forget who said it. I said, you can’t win a culture war if you don’t have a culture.
We don’t have a culture. We just sat back and let them feed us a culture. And we just kind of watched. Right? You can’t run a financial system just with law and enforcement. You know, the enforcement, the only productive enforcement comes from a moral culture and institutions that will allow their people and encourage their people to be moral. You know, it’s funny, I just did an interview today with a gold company here, and I’m in the Netherlands right now. And they’re a wonderful company. I’ve only gotten, I’ve only done maybe four or five transactions with them, but each time totally clean, totally professional, high speed, no monkey business, no dirty tricks, everything clean as a whistle.
Everybody down to the drivers are great. It’s like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And you think this is how it should work. But they have, if you look at who owns them and how they operate, they’re highly moral. And it’s culture that’s going to drive that. I don’t know if you saw it, but we did this wonderful panel with ChD Tennessee in Rogersville with Senator nicely and Representative Halsey. Oh, how could you do that? Oh, it was a hoot. Can I tell you? It was so great. First I did a speech, then we did the panel.
If you watch it, just cut to the panel because Halsey and nicely are great. But Halsey gives this whole description of how the constitution came out of a culture and a morality. And unless we, you know, unless we protect and nurture and enforce that culture, nothing good can come from anything. And it’s very eloquent. I agree. It is very important to have people that you trust and everything. That’s why we work with Tony Ardeburn at Wise Wolf Gold and he’s even set up a website, Davidknight Gold. And we were just talking about that yesterday, how Costco, they sold, what was that, 100 million or 300 million? I don’t know what it was.
Amazing amount of gold, you know, but Walmart is getting in it now. But it’s like you want to deal with people that you know, and people. I don’t want Walmart knowing what I own. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. You go down to Walmart and you can buy it with your JP Morgan card, you know, and make of America card. And that’s, that kind of defeats a lot of the purpose of that. You say forward to your financial transaction freedom. You have a quote from William Faulkner says, we must be free not because we claim freedom, but because we practice it.
I thought that was really profound. You know, we always talk about, well, you know, we got the constitution, we got this and that. You know, well, you know, they had the Declaration of Independence, but they still had to fight the war to get that independence. You can’t just declare your independence. You got to make it happen. And that’s really what this document is about, the financial transaction freedom. Tell us a little bit about that. Tell us, first of all, give us your definition of that. So there are two big documents in this, in this wrap up, and the first one, interestingly enough, came from Tennessee.
I was meeting with a group of state legislators and some of the government officials, and there’s a wonderful guy who runs the revenue department and a really smart guy, and he said, would you write a memo for me on financial transaction freedom? What is it, what threatens it, and what can we do to protect it? And that was a harder job. I got my general counsel and I. And we wrote it. And so let’s start with what is financial transaction freedom? Financial transaction freedom is the ability to trade, to trade money for goods or to barter swap, and to do it in a way where, one, it’s private, two, you have multiple options.
Three, it’s liquid, and nobody’s stopping or controlling you by controlling your financial transactions. So we all know the story of what happened to the canadian truckers. That is financial transaction control. Now, what I believe, if you go to Solari and you down on the right, there’s a panel that says videos on financial transaction freedoms and cbdcs. And it’s a list of 80, 80 short videos that show you what the central bankers are planning on doing, including asserting total control of your money. So that, one, they can make rules centrally and enforce them centrally with AI and software on all digital systems that control your money.
So if they decide they want to raise taxes, they just take it out of your account. If they decide it will help with inflation, they just freeze your account, you know, and they describe the deposits in your account as an expression of central bank liability. It’s not your money, it’s their money. That’s number one. Number two, they want to program money. So if they don’t want your money working more than 5 miles from your house, or they don’t want you buying pizza because they think, you know, it’s not good for you, then your money won’t buy pizza.
Your money, your digital. Your digital cards and digital transactions and bank transactions won’t work, you know, if you’re more than 5 miles from your home. So it’s called programmability. Anyway, so if you look at the first couple videos, there’s also one of the great videos there is a video from one of the presidents of one of the twelve fed banks saying, I understand why China wants cbdcs, but why would Americans ever let this happen? Because you’re talking about a slavery system. If they get financial transaction control and control of the food supply, which is part of what they’re up to.
And if you look at some of our wrap ups, we’ve written a lot about that recently as well, because it’s part of the same play. If they get financial transaction control, David, and they can control your bank account and institute taxation without representation, then they can dictate anything. They can dictate what drugs you’re going to take. They can dictate whether or not you’ve got to take injections. They can dictate where your kids go to school. They can dictate that your kids can’t live with you anymore. They’ve got to come to XYZ, government boarding school, whatever. That’s right.
You’re talking about a slavery system. And the fourth video in the stack is Richard Warner, the top central bank expert in the world, in my opinion, academic expert, explaining that one of the top central banks heads in Europe told him that it’s a chip they’re planning on putting in our hands. So, and we’ve seen discussions at the World Economic Forum with the head of Nokia and others talking about how we’re going to all be chipped. Yeah. For convenience, you know, for convenience. And it really is for their convenience. Yeah. Yeah. You want to have, I played the video over and over again from, that was produced in Ukraine and they said, well, you know, after we get past this war and we’re victorious, 2030 is just going to be great.
You know, when you, any interaction that you have with other people, but especially all the different things that you’re required to do with government, we’ll just make that so convenient because we’ll have a, a CBDC and we’ll have your, everything that you have will be on your phone and so forth. And it’s like, wow, this is totally comprehensive. But as you pointed out, they’re going to be able, with the programmability, make your money invalid if you’re not in the correct area. It’s all about enslaving and imprisoning this, right? So when the World Economic Forum says it’s 2030 and you have no assets, the question is how do they strip you of all your assets? How do they strip you of your property rights? How do they strip you of your assets? And the way you do it is.
If you can get total financial transaction control, then you can strip people of all their assets. You just turn off their money. That’s right. Yeah, we already saw a little bit of this. You mentioned the freedom convoy. That was a big wake up for everybody, because now it’s no longer a conspiracy theory, it’s a conspiracy reality. They’ve already done it. Then we saw January 6, we saw bank of America creating a Stasi list of, here’s all the people that had financial transactions within this area on January 6. Oh, and oh, by the way, here’s our records of all the people who use our credit card to buy guns.
You want to put those together? FBI. So we know how they’re going to use this. It’s very sinister. And when you look at it, it’s almost as if the bank of America was asking them, would you like us to confiscate their money and lock up their accounts? Right? Exactly. Yeah. It truly is amazing. So when we look at it, there’s some other things on it as well. I’m looking at the memo, and there’s a downloadable PDF that you have at. It just says financial transaction freedom memo. And we have it in PDF, and you can download.
We sell hard copies for free, or we put it in the wrap up. You can buy that, but if you’re a subscriber, but just download it for free, print it out, make as many copies as you want, spread it everywhere. And so you just define what financial freedom is. You got to have multiple different ways outside of their system, a lot of different options and things like that. Privacy and no surveillance and that type of thing. But then you also have action items, because I talk about CBDC. Go ahead, tell us about the action items. The next step.
Well, to understand action items, you have to understand what threatens financial transaction freedom. Because it’s not just central bank controls and cbdcs and digital ids. It’s also power outages, okay. It’s cybersecurity attacks. There are all sorts of other things. When the cyclones hit in New Zealand, the governor of the central bank there gave a press conference afterwards, and he said, thank God for cash. If we hadn’t had cash, we would have been. And I, you know, I never. I’ll turn to John Titus that week. And I said, I guess he didn’t get the memo, but remember when there was that huge power outage in Kentucky? Oh, yeah.
For weeks. If you. If you didn’t have cash, you were in real trouble. Okay, so there are multiple things that can compromise because what we’re talking about doing is not allowing digital systems to get control. Yes. And that’s why we always say to people, the first thing you can do is to roll back digital systems. Stop being so dependent on digital systems. You want to have analog alternatives and you want to be resilient in the face of real hiccups with digital systems, whether it’s a power outage, whether it’s government sanctions, whether it’s central bank intervention, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
But build that resiliency into your life. There are many ways you can do it. So the first thing we talk about is using cash and starting to engage with local businesses, particularly your farmers and your farmer markets fresh food. Because the most important thing you need to do in this environment is you need a good, strong, clear brain and healthy body. And that starts with good, healthy, fresh food. And as we know, there’s terrible deterioration in the quality of the food. So, you know, line up your food locally. The second thing you can do is bring transparency.
We have a wonderful post. We link to it from that memo called I want to stop cbdcs. What can I do? And it lists eleven things you can do, but one of the things you can do is tell your family and friends. So we have these eleven, well, we have a link to these CBDC shorts. And they’re 1 minute, you know, the first three are 1 minute each and the fourth one is two and a half minutes really short. And in those three 1 minute videos, they will scare you to death. And I defy anybody to think they don’t need to take action once they see those.
So you don’t need to read a lot of books or watch a lot of long videos. In three 1 minute videos we can communicate to you why you got to do something about this. That’s great. Another thing people can do that is exceptionally important is talk to your financial service providers, talk to your CPA, talk to your attorney, talk to your bank, talk to all these people and get them realizing that they’ve got a push back. If the state banking associations start to push back and protect people from transaction control and compromise of their financial transaction freedom, they can have a huge impact.
And they should do that because if you look at what the central bankers are up to, they intend to consolidate the banking system. They’re rolling out, the Fed is rolling out the fast payment system. We saw what they did to a group of banks last week. They’re going to consolidate the banking system, which is going to be terrible for the small business economy and terrible bottom up for the health of the economy and family wealth. So get your banks, get your investment advisors, get your cpas, get your lawyers, get all your financial professionals lined up and educated, bring transparency and get them on board.
The next thing you need to do is there are ten plus states in this country that have legislative agendas that are filing and knocking through bills that are going to protect the financial transaction freedom of the people in those states. UNi are in Tennessee and Tennessee is absolutely leading the way. It’s one of those states. And they’re working on sovereign payment systems or banks. They’re working on bullion depositories and a way for citizens to store their gold and silver but transact their gold and silver within the state in a way that protects, absolutely protects financial transaction freedom and voting gold and silver to be legal tender.
So we can’t get locked into a CBDC system, you know, where we don’t have legal tender unless we use cbdcs. They’ve already taken in many states. In Tennessee, the sales tax off part of that legal tender bill is to make sure gold and silver are protected from capital gains tax. They’re taking, they’re doing moves to protect and build analog payment systems so again, that you can have your digital systems shut down or controlled from out of state. They are now bringing nullification laws. I’m sure you’ve talked about that, changing the definition of money so it can’t be, you know, cbdcs can’t be included in the definition of money.
Nullification bills. I mentioned nullification already nullification bills to make sure that constitutional, any law that’s unconstitutional under both the federal constitution or the state constitution is included. And then, yeah, let me interject there. Last time I talked to Senator nicely, we’re talking about this pistol brace thing. And he goes, we’ve already got taken care of. We passed this nullification thing saying that if the federal law conflicts with the Tennessee law. And he said, and then we passed a, they can’t do it, they can’t enforce it. And he said, then we passed a law to make pistol braces legal.
So they’re on top of it. They really, really are on top of it. They are on top of it. Talking about educating the banks and your CPA and anybody that you deal with financially. And it’s a really, last time I talked to him, he was saying it was difficult to get the local banks to understand that a state bank was going to help them like it did in North Dakota, where they have a lot more local banks than any other state. And they have worked to help them. And he goes, but you talk about a state bank and they think it’s some kind of competition.
So he came up with the idea of calling it a Tennessee reserve system. And he said, he’s brilliant at that, isn’t he? Yeah. I think, Senator nicely, our team at Solari, our number one goal this year is to support financial transaction freedom, because we want to be free. And if we don’t get financial transaction freedom, we won’t be free. And for us to be free, we need everybody to be free. And I look around and I say, who are the most astute politicians who can understand and move this kind of build this infrastructure one bill at a time? Because it’s going to take many, many bills and quite an education.
And I think Senator nicely is the most effective politician I have ever known or dealt with Washington state politicians, global here in Europe. I’ve never met a more effective politician in my life. Oh, I agree. I absolutely agree. Yeah. And so, you know, we’re talking about, you got to see this panel in Roger Ville because he also happens to be one of the funniest people alive. Yeah. At one point he was talking about, about his, you know, I said to him, Senator nicely, you know, I hold you personally responsible for the traffic problems in Tennessee because for the last ten to twelve years, you keep lowering taxes.
And he said, yeah, my wife says, you know, he’s married to a texan. He says, my wife says, if we lower taxes anymore, he said, everybody’s going to move in here and it’s my fault that we have all these Yankees and Californians moved in. But I tell my wife, this is, you got to watch it. It’s so funny. He says, I tell my wife, he said, you know, I don’t mind the Yankees moving in because one thing we know about Yankees, they will fight. And we learned that the hard way. He really does know his history.
That’s the other thing. Very interesting about Serenda nicely. But, you know, you were talking about the pushbacks. And one of the things that you mentioned when you were talking about pushbacks was, and you touched on it just now, the definition of money and UCC’s. And you mentioned that South Carolina had done that. I know that. Yes, Carolina moved to Bill Florida and said, so how many have changed the definition of money to say it’s not a CBDC, but it’s going to be, but we are going to allow this and that as a definition? Yeah, I don’t know how many.
I know Florida’s done it. I know South Carolina has done it. We have a team that’s trying to collect up and identify who has done all in 15 different legislative categories, who has done what in terms of a state bank, a sovereign bullion, depository, whatever. As we do that, we find more states. I will say this. One of the things I would like to have more capacity in is understanding how to protect states through the UCC. Because a lot of the monkey business happens through the UCC, the uniform commercial code. So if there are UCC attorneys out there who are willing to help, please, you know, this is a call for help because the UCC is, you know, it’s state by state, but it’s highly complicated, as you know, David.
And I think a lot of the games are happening inside the UCC. Well, I remember when I first heard about that in conjunction with the CBDC, it was Christy Noem in South Dakota who said this thing came across and we vetoed it. But be aware that there’s more than 20 some odd states that have had that pushed out in. The next thing I saw was that DeSantis went the opposite direction. What they’re pushing out was legislation to say that CBDCs would have to be accepted as money. DeSantis went the other way and said they will not be accepted as money, but we will accept bitcoin and cash and all the rest of this stuff that we currently have.
Now South Carolina has done that as well. That’s good news. There’s so many different ways that we can push back on this and point back. There’s a lot of pushback lawsuits against the companies because of damage and things like that. It is a constant struggle and it really is hard to try to keep to get a sense of whether people are waking up. I got to the point where I just thought, nobody’s ever going to wake up in 2020. A tremendous number of people are waking up. If you look at the pushback, I’ll tell you, one of the greatest pushback clusters is the state ags and treasurers.
The treasurers are pushing back like crazy against ESG. We just had the treasurer of Utah write a letter to the SEC to try and stop, stop or delay the proposed comment rule ending on natural asset companies, which is another talk about real trouble coming anyway. But the pushback by the state ags, Missouri versus Biden is a great example of litigation filed by Louisiana and Missouri. But the state ags and the treasurers are on the move and they’re teaming up. So if you look at the filing of the Utah treasurer in at the SEC. His letter was signed by himself and 23 other treasurers.
So they’re teaming up groups of ags and groups of treasurers. Larry Fink and Blackrock have had to roll back their whole ESG initiative because so many treasurers have pulled money or I think, won. Now, I think Tennessee is suede. I don’t know if it’s the treasurer. Somebody in Tennessee has sued the. I think it’s scarmetti. The attorney general said it is fraudulent because you’re telling people that they’re making an investment. So therefore, you’re going to be trying to do things that are exercise, care, fiduciary care, the financial side, but you’re completely ignoring the financial side, and you got your own agenda over here.
Well, there’s something else. Blackrock is making huge fees off the state pension funds. And if you look at the hypocrisy of what Larry Fink is saying, it’s extraordinary. I did a wrap up in 2019 called can ESG turn the red button green. And basically what I was describing was all the hypocrisy in the system because they’re using it to enforce central control as opposed to enforce real standards that improve, in my opinion, the governance of society. So Larry Fink has gotten called out on his hypocrisy. That’s great. That’s the treasurers who are coming out and saying, we’re going to move our investments away from them, putting financial pressure on them.
And then you got some attorney generals, attorneys general, who were saying, well, this is fraudulent, and we’re going to sue them because they’ve told people that their company is about this, but it’s actually about this other thing. Well, here’s the thing. At the very heart of the pushback, in all these different forms, what you’re seeing is people on the ground who want to be productive. People want to go to work and do a good job without having to share bathrooms with the other sex and get into that conversation. They want to go back without, they want to be free to say something without being fired for offending hate crime.
All this stuff is destroying productivity, and they’ve had it. So what they’re saying is we. So if I’m a treasurer, I’m looking across the state and saying the guys in Washington and Wall street and Basel, Switzerland, are using climate change as a ruse to shut down our businesses, take control of our markets and steal our money. Why should I finance them doing that? Because they’re not doing what they say they’re doing, they’re just using this to assert central control. Just like during the pandemic, you shut down ten small businesses. You leave Costco in the same shopping mall open.
And on the theory that the magic virus only operates in small business, but it doesn’t operate in large, publicly traded stocks, and you scarf and steal the market share from the small businesses had nothing to do with health. It had to do with shifting significant market share out of locally owned and controlled businesses into publicly traded stocks in a way that made Larry Fink a lot of money. It’s a scam. Yeah. That made me so angry when that was happening because I had lived that with my wife and I. We had a video store business back in the early nineties, and we had a hurricane that came through and took power out for several days.
And we finally got it back in one area. We opened up that store, and then the police came by and said, you got to shut your store down. I said, well, Walmart is open right across the store, right across the street. You got to shut your business down because you’re attracting people to come out and drive around. They shouldn’t be out driving around now. It’s like, well, who you make that decision, number one? And number two, you’re telling me essentially what Trump said. You’re not a senator. You know, Walmart is essential, but you closed down because, you know, they want.
Yeah, you know, basically, it’s the big guys stealing market share from the little guys. That’s right. It’s very simple. That’s right. It’s a steal. It’s called a taking. Yes, yes. And it’s, you know, hurting Main street in order to help Wall street, the big companies that are central. And so when I saw that, I’d already lived that for, you know, just a couple of days, and it made me so angry to see that they were going to be putting people out of business who had poured their sweat and energy and capital into this and worked it for years just to be told that they’re non essential, that I still get angry when I think about that.
But talk about some of the other things you happened in 2023, in 2021, people agreed to play along with that, or 2020 because they thought the government had a legitimate reason. Once you understand that this is just a mafia trying to steal your business, that’s when you say, oh, two people can play this game. So you, the municipality, are going to shut me down. Great. I’m going to audit your books. I’m going to get all your financial disclosure and I’m going to dig into your money and I’m going to dig into the money of everybody on the city council.
By the time I’m through, you’re all going to be gone. So we have a wonderful woman who works for us in Tennessee. She was in Knoxville. She tried to get the mask mandate canceled and couldn’t do it. And so she went in and figured out the committee in government that was deciding this. She figured out how they were formed and she got the committee canceled and they canceled. There was no mask mandate because the committee that was supposed to implement it was gone. That’s great. That’s what really needs to happen. That’s the thing that concerns me is that in so many cases we have seen people who are just, oh, I’m so glad that this isn’t happening again.
They realize it was a fraud. They don’t want to play along with it. But now that it’s ended, as you point out, everybody just wants to get on with their life, right? Instead of going back and rooting this out, they want to be productive. They want to build family wealth. And that’s why you have to give them ways of pushing back that they can push back in a way that helps them build family wealth. So what we’re saying is make yourself more resilient, make yourself more successful, lower your dependency. Every time you pull money and market share out of the companies that are doing this and the support the politicians who are doing this, you make yourself more powerful, you make yourself stronger and they get weaker.
So it’s like having a tapeworm. What we’re saying is detox the tapeworm to make yourself stronger. And anytime you can do anything that lowers your dependency on their systems, like using cash. Using cash is really can save you a lot of money. We’ve proven again and again, if people use cash, they spend less, they’re more careful, think through their purchase decisions. But you can also build up incredibly great relationships with your local business in the process of transacting with them. It’s a much more intimate way of transacting, and you find all sorts of opportunities when that conversation gets going.
People are busy and this is an exhausting environment in many ways because of the compliance and rules. And people don’t like to fight and add friction because that doesn’t get them anywhere. A lot of times they see a lot of people fighting in ways that aren’t effective. They don’t want to be a part of that. So you need to give them ways of pushing back which help to build their strength and power and wealth, I go back. The most important one is they have to be healthy. And that means if I encourage anyone to invest time in building wealth, step one is getting the knowledge you need to take responsibility for your own health and making sure you’re getting clean water and nutritious food.
And you are not get poisoned, because we are in the middle, particularly in America, the great poisoning. And people are getting sick from being poisoned and they need to understand what the process is and how to protect themselves and their family. And if people are really good at protecting themselves from the great poisoning, David, they have ten times more energy. That’s right. So step number one is get yourself off the poison treadmill. And when you look at it, it’s going to cost you more to get this other food right, but not if you compare that to what’s going to happen if you get sick.
And you got to engage with the healthcare system that just blows away. You can buy organic food all day forever before you have your first hospital bill. They’re going to really fleece you, talk about destroying you financially. That’s what happens with the hospital system. If you can stay out of that and clean food, you’re way ahead of the game, even financially, let alone in terms of enjoying the health. Absolutely. Our annual wrap up last year was called pharma food, and it was on synthetic food and lab grown meat. And it was the hardest thing I’ve ever had to read.
We hired this wonderful dutch journalist, Elsa von Hamelin, to write it, and she did an incredible job. And when she came back with it, it’s the first time in my life I couldn’t read a draft the whole way through because it’s so easy. If you see the hundreds of billions of dollars they’re throwing at making $30 hamburgers that are created with 3d printing, it’s so horrible. You can’t imagine that they want anybody to eat this and nobody’s going to eat it without financial transaction control because they’re going to mandate the only food you’re allowed to buy, or sort of bugs and synthetic meat.
Anyway, we published it and I thought, David, it would be the least popular wrap up that we ever published because it’s so horrible and gruesome. We published it and it’s brilliant. It really warns you about what these guys are up to and why you can’t allow financial transaction to control happen, because this is the food they’re going to try and feed you. And anyway, we published it and it was hugely popular and successful because all the fresh food. People used it to market. All the people at the farmers market are like, like, here’s what they’re going to do if you don’t support us.
And I had one subscriber write in this one, we get these great emails and they said, I have tried and tried and tried to get my husband to buy from the local farmers and farmers market and really develop our fresh food supply locally. And he says, it’s too hard work and it’s too much money. I gave him pharma food. He said, I am all in. It’s great that you got that. A shame. After we moved here, we finally found a local farm that was doing clean local food and everything. And, you know, raw. We could get raw milk as a membership club and things like that.
Oh, wonderful. And we only did that for a couple of months. And then they said, we just got to close. We can’t, can’t keep it going. There’s not enough demand. And that’s the key thing. It really, it was so sad. So now we’re looking again, you know, but it is so sad to see how difficult it is for them to maintain that and. But how important? I don’t know if edible Communities has a magazine for your area. Look at the edible communities. It’s a franchise of local food magazines all over the country. And I thought I knew every fresh food farmer in my area until I got the edible communities magazine for Memphis.
And I found so many great sources after I got it. So I would check that out. And, of course, check out the Westin Price club, where you are, because there are western price chapters all over the world, and they have the greatest networks into knowing what the great food is in your area. They’re the ones who’ve led the campaign on raw milk. And raw milk is one of the great success stories because we’re now up to 46 states where there is a pathway to buying raw milk. And that is extraordinary. And it’s been the rest and price guys who really did that.
Oh, that’s excellent. Yeah. And of course, the other part of this, and Thomas Massey has been involved in this, and I reported he is my hero. Thomas Massey was hero of the week three times on this report in 2023. Yeah. He’s by far and away the best us congressman that’s out there. Absolutely hands down. But he’s focused on this whole thing about the fact and a particular amish farmer. As a matter of fact, there’s an update that just happened. This guy that’s been harassed by the USDA because he wants to butcher the meat there on the farm and do it cleanly.
I’m sure. I can’t remember the guy’s name, but I’m sure you know the case. Yeah, I know they’ve come back and hit him again. Because very important for them that you’ve got to go to their centrally controlled meat processing waterhouses. Yeah, exactly right. And it’s much safer. A good local operation on the farm is much safer. So, you know. So Massey has the. What’s the name of. Is the prim act. Yes. So we’ve been supporting for several years trying to get the prim act passed. And, you know, it’s funny, one of the things I do, you know, it started with Ron Paul, but then it went to Massey.
Whenever I’m depressed, you know, I’m just thinking, oh, God, it’s. You know, I’m fighting with. I call the force the nothing. I’m fighting with the nothing. You know, I have to do something to make myself feel good. And I’ll send a donation to Massey. It’s like, okay, I’ll put fuel in the leader’s pocket, and I’ll feel better. He’s a good guy. He’s a guy, and he stands like Ron Paul. He stands alone if he has to. What is it in the water in Kentucky that we. You know, we get that because rampalls in Kentucky. Massey’s in Kentucky.
Yeah. He definitely stood up, and he stood up against that trillions of dollars that Trump wanted to put in. Trump wanted to get him out, but he didn’t get him out. So that’s good. I think the people. My favorite, if you go to Solari and do a search for Massey, you’ll pull this up. One of the heroes of the week was Massey absolutely slaughtering that idiot from Texas. Not many idiots come from Texas, but this one is the secretary of transportation on electric cars, because Matthew is an MIT engineer, and he knows the whole. Electric cars are, mathematically, the math of the energy, the math of the environment, the math of the economic.
They’re absolutely insane. They make no sense whatsoever. Yeah. It only makes sense in the scientific term if your degree is in political science. And that’s what he also did, too, if you want total control. So if you want to be able to turn off people’s cars. So if I lock you down, you can’t go more 5 miles from your home. Your car will turn off, and it won’t work more than 5 miles from your home. I know exactly what it’s about. Digital concentration camps. Yes. Right, right. That’s true. Yeah. Yeah. He had John Kerry on and he was debating John Kerry, and he pointed out, he says, so you got a science degree? Well, yeah, he goes, political science.
Right. That’s what it was. John Kerry’s got a political science degree because there isn’t any, you know, there isn’t any science between these. I call them MacGuffins, which is what Hitchcock called them. You know, it doesn’t really matter what it is. It could be the maltese falcon or be something else, but it’s whatever motivates the people to do this. So it could be the virus or it could be the climate, but they’ve always got the same solution. You got to get an id and you got to put them in charge and beg them permission for everything.
But it doesn’t matter what the Macguffin is, it’s interchangeable. Just whatever you use to motivate the people. It seems like it always comes. So when I became assistant secretary of housing, the secretary wanted to do a big housing bill. He wanted a big accomplishment. He wanted a big housing bill. So the goal was, how do we get the definition Democrats on board for? And we got Jim rouse around Fannie Mae. I’m sorry, Jim Rouse, who ran the Enterprise foundation, and David Maxwell around Fannie Mae. They had done a big commission on housing that proposed a lot of decentralization.
They were both big Democrats. So we got David and Jim to come in, wonderful men. And Kemp, the secretary, was trying to persuade him into a new housing bill. And a lot of what Kemp was proposing was more centralization. And David and Jim were. They’re wonderful people, very big hearts. And they were saying, well, Jack, you’re a Republican. Republicans believe in decentralization. And we proposed a lot of decentralization. And so we think you would like what we’re proposing. And he had these two little assistants from the Heritage foundation who were truly frightened, and one of them said, so Jack is proposing more centralization.
The Democrats are proposing decentralization, which is supposed to be the opposite of their ideologies. So they said, don’t you want to decentralize? Why would you want to centralize? And one of the special assistants bursted out. He says, yeah, but we’re here now. That’s it. That’s it. We’re here now. It’s like, that’s why they never change. Bring the blood to the empire headquarters. Bring the blood to the empire. More extraction. More extraction. That’s why I had to leave Washington. That’s why I moved to Tennessee. I was like, you can’t decentralize from Washington. That’s right. That’s right. You got to nullify it.
You got to have some things at the local level. So you’ve talked about some of these things. Sovereign State bank, I’m looking at your list here. Actions that can be taken to secure financial freedom. You start out with state and local government, but then you talk about having some local organizations to try to help this maybe because we don’t want to all be in. You can’t get too much done on your own. So you’ve got three different sections. There’s state and local. You got what you can do with small associations and then things that you can do as an individual.
It’s a great. And what you can do as an investor. I do want to mention the second memo in the document. In the financial the future of financial freedom wrap up is our sovereign state bank memo by Richard Werner. Outstanding. And explains to you why you do not want to let the central bankers consolidate the small banks. You do not want that to happen. And the pandemic was hard on the small banks and we want a strong small banking. And it explains why the health of the economy and the small business economy in Main street depend on lots of healthy small banks.
And so one of the most important things, and this is what Frank understands and I don’t think that the banking associations understand yet. They don’t understand what a threat CBDC and digital id and fast payment systems are. And I want to stress again, what we’re trying to get is financial transaction freedom. CBDCs is not the only problem. Fast payment systems and what they can do with credit cards and banking accounts without CBDCs, that kind of control is a real problem. It’s a real problem now. So as we saw with the tennis truckers. So anyway, so this memo on sovereign state banks is very, very good and important.
And it helps you understand why you want the state to be able to transact without the feds or the central banks being able to shut them down and to afford that protection to the local banks and the local citizens. You want financial liquidity that the feds can’t kill. That’s right. That’s right. And right now we have, as you’re well aware, we look at the situation, how the deficit has exploded about that earlier we were at only about $10 trillion, about 15 years ago now has exploded up to $34 trillion. But I’m sure that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
As I point out, there’s all these other things in terms of obligations that the federal government has, there’s this massive system that is really not sustainable and corrupt. What happens as we start to see it’s also another thing that’s happened, is the debt deficit is going up. And as we’re using the dollar as a weapon, fewer and fewer people are using abroad or getting off of the dollar as a reserve currency. What are going to be the implications? If that continues and accelerates, what’s going to be the implications? Higher prices. Higher prices. Higher prices. So as the squeeze comes on the value, basically, the reason everybody’s been going along with the crime is the criminals have been sharing crumbs with us.
So if you talk to a state legislator, why can’t we establish. So Tennessee is considering rejecting federal education aid. There’s an addiction to the money. That’s right. So the central banks print money and use that money to buy us, even though that drives up inflation. So at the end of the day, we don’t end up better off, but we have this addiction to getting federal money. So we’re on the, the dole, and as we stay on the dole, our economies get weaker and weaker and weaker, and we become more and more dependent on that dole. So there is a financial addiction going on to central bank printed money, and that is going to.
The question is, when is the pain great enough that we’re willing to walk away from that money now, as they share less and less crumbs and prices go up and up from this sort of inflation game, when are people going to realize we are better off creating the conditions of sovereignty, rejecting that money? And what I will tell you, David, is in the nineties at Hamilton securities, I did a lot of simulation of what we could do if we took government money and we re engineered it to optimize economic health as opposed to central control. Yeah, that’s right.
And if, you know, it’s going to be a rough transition because we’ve delayed it for so long, but if we go through that transition, we can build a much more moral and productive society. Oh, I agree. I agree. Yeah, that’s always been the case, and it’s been difficult. I’ve had this frustrating thing feel like I’m banging my head against the wall when I talk to people about what happened in 2020. They said, well, Trump didn’t do it. I said, no, you understand it’s the money, right? That’s how they get every, that’s how they get around the 10th of amendment.
They bribe people, they get you addicted to the money, and then they pull it back and say, well, now I’m going to blackmail you. If we look at what happened with Trump, you know, he’s out there. His administration, they’re giving a 20% bonus. If you identify somebody as Covid, they’re giving you a bonus to diagnose them at $13,000, $39,000. You put them on ventilator, 20% on everything that you do. And then when Biden comes in, and now that they’ve gotten used to this money, he says, well, if you don’t get everybody in the hospital vaccinated, I’m going to not give you any Medicare or Medicaid.
I’m going to shut everything off. That’s the way it always works going back into the nineties. But I’m going to be tough on Trump because he swung $10 billion of taxpayers money into a military program that completely bypassed all the safety things that are implicit in health care law to poison millions of Americans. That’s right. That’s right. Yeah, he’s the poisoner in chief. Absolutely. No doubt about it. It was a military operation. That’s what I was, a military operation. And he put 10 billion, he put $10 billion behind it. And he appointed to run it a man who was a brain machine interface expert from GlaxoSmithKline.
Yeah. And they’ve been practicing this since two months before 911. They’ve had their annual germ game thing, and it’s coming from DARPA. So of course they’re going to have the widespread thing be a military thing. Really difficult to get people to understand that. And sometimes I explain, you know, when I was, when we were doing homeschooling of our kids were now grown, I know that there were a lot of people in the homeschool facility community that wanted to say, well, let’s have, let’s, let’s fight to get our kids into the sports programs and band programs and things like that.
And I said, you know, there’s going to be strings attached to all that money and all those benefits that you’re fighting for. They’re going to use that to blackmail you. And that’s exactly what they do. They get around the 10th amendment by offering people money, getting them addicted to the money, and say, okay, now put the boys in the girl’s bathroom or we’re going to take the money away. It always works out that way. Really. So one of my favorite quotes is from Franklin Sanders. Who’s that? Wonderful. I don’t know if you’ve had Franklin on he’s wonderful precious metals dealer and pastor in middle Tennessee.
He says all government money comes with a sock in the jaw. That’s a good way to put it. Well, tell us a little bit about the tour, because we’re about out of time. It’s going to be, you’re going to have. So I’m coming down to Tennessee. I should be there by the 23rd. And then I’m heading over to middle Tennessee. I got a lot of meetings in Nashville and some of the surrounding states. I’m going to drop down to Mississippi and Alabama, and a lot of the states around Tennessee are talking about doing the same thing and talking about how they network together.
Yes. That’s a key thing, too, having a network of states. That’s one of the things senator nicely has talked about. You got to get several states. The network of states is, I don’t want to call it the Confederacy, but anyway. Well, technically it would be, I guess. But now you’re talking about something that’s much more bottom up, where the states cooperate and coordinate deal by deal transactions. So you, so you have, you know, so you have relationships where you’re helping each other do a better job, go faster, and they’re, you know, given the different strengths of the different states, there’s so much that can be done to cooperate between those states that will really help advantage each other.
That’s right. So, you know, I think it’s pretty exciting. And if you look at the, you know, we have an extraordinary number of very capable and talented state legislators who have been, you know, they haven’t gone up to the federal level. They haven’t become senators or congressmen because they’re too clean. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They’re too clean, but they’re very, very competent and they’re very capable. And it’s taken a while for them to realize, oh, I’m more competent to engineer this than all these hotshots. They’ve got a control file. They’re on a leash. I can do this.
And so everybody, that’s what’s important is that the state and local races is far more important. You have far more leverage than you do with Washington. So I’m telling you to spend almost all your time and money this year on your state and local races. That’s right. Don’t worry about the federal election because this will be decided. And if you’re in a state that, where there’s not going to be financial transaction freedom and you can move, you miss get your. I don’t want to say that because the traffic problem in Tennessee is really bad. Think about what happened in 2020, and that’s where you can see that it, where the rubber meets the road is at the local level.
So your schedule is going to be there. As to I’m coming at the end of January and I’ll be over, I’ll be in Hickory Valley for the first week or two, and then I’ll move over to Shelbyville and be going up, spending lot of time in Nashville. And then I’ll be networking around the state for lots of meetings and then head up to New England for the end of February. I’ll be there for a week and then come back to Tennessee. But I’ll also be going, we’ll be going around the country and we’ll, at some point we’ll put up our schedule by the end of the month so people will know where we’re going.
We’re really responding to clusters of people, particularly Solari Report subscribers, who want to meet up. And it’s great because when one of the things that happens, and this is one of the reasons I want to do this, is we have these wonderful subscribers and they’re in a place and they say there are no like minded people around. And I’ll look at our database and I’ll say, look, there are a ton of like minded people around because they’re all subscribing to this layer report. So we’ll go there and meet up and then everybody meets. And it’s so amazing to watch it, David, because literally you can be in some of these meetings and within, within an hour, they look like they’ve known each other for 20 years.
It’s so fabulous. It’s so fabulous. That’s great. Anyway, so we’re going to try and do a lot of meetups and make sure people can find each other in their local areas. Good. So people, check the checksalari.com, dot your schedule as it gets finalized because you’re still building that. So that’s great. Looking forward to seeing you at one of, of these. And I’ll be checking the site to see where that’s going to be coming. Thank you so much for joining us. Katherine Austin Fitz. Thank you, David. I just love what you do. I’ve always loved what you do.
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We’re both of the same mindset. And as I said earlier in the program, I saw his article on brownstone, and it was actually an excerpt from his book. So we want to talk to him about that. But as he was running for president, he made CBDC the central point of that. Thank you for joining us. Aaron Day appreciate it. Thank you for having me. And we were talking off air, and I wanted, my first question was going to be, you said you have suspended your campaign now. But my first question was going to be, what was your take on how some of the candidates have talked about this issue? Of course, we’d had DeSantis talk about it.
We had Ramaswamy talk about it. And we’ve had Trump recently talk about it. Tell people your take on this and tell people your story about what happened after you suspended your campaign. Sure. Well, I ran for president specifically to bring this issue up. In fact, my goal in running as a Republican was to try to get into the debates so that I could elevate this issue on the national stage. Little did I know that the debates were going to turn out to be mean as people wouldn’t watch them. And they were going to be structured in such a way where you couldn’t even talk about issues like CBDC or anything that happened with COVID But in the process, I did chat with many of the other candidates.
And in fact, I’ve given copies of my book to several of the candidates. The most interesting one was with Vivek. He actually read my book and we discussed it. I gave him a copy of my book in June, and I actually have interacted with him on a number of different occasions when he dropped out and endorsed Trump. One of the first things that happened was he had consulted with Trump on the CBDC position. And so Trump came out in New Hampshire, in Portsmouth, actually, which I’m in New Hampshire, that’s where I live. He came out and adopted an anti CBDC stance.
So I was grateful for that. And I hope that, in a way, my book and my conversations with Vivek actually helped push that issue and put a sense of urgency around it. And the other candidates, as you mentioned, Sanctus has been anti CBDC. RFK Junior has been anti CBDC. Haley has not spoken about it, although based on her idea of, you should have a, you know, need a digital id in order to access the Internet, I guess she’s going to be on the wrong side. I think she would say, if you’re going to buy something, I want to know your name, because she wants to know your name if you’re going to get on the Internet.
So. Yeah, I think. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. But part of the conclusion of my book is that I believe there’s a greater than 50% chance that we’re going to have a CBDC implemented before the 2024 election. A big part of what I’m doing in this book and in doing workshops across the country is trying to educate people on what they can do outside of voting, which is to exit the dollar and move into self custody, crypto gold and silver, and start using, using it in a parallel economy. And part of what happened as traveling around the country, I spoke with Senator Ted Cruz, who is the leading opponent of CBDC in the US Senate.
He put a bill out there to try to stop cbdcs and halt cbdcs, and it failed. And he said flat out, there aren’t the votes in the United States Senate to stop cbdcs. Basically, the Senate is currently. Isn’t that amazing that they won’t vote for it? I saw that Tom Emmer, who’s the House whip, you know, he came out in opposition to CBDC right about the same time as DeSantis did. And I thought, well, that’s good. And that’s interesting. Where is he coming from? And then I realized that he’s got a lot of ties to cryptocurrency.
And of course, there is this, you know, the pushers of CBDC, like Liz Warren and Biden, all the rest of them, they want to shut down the competition from cryptocurrency out, obviously. And so I kind of got the sense that Tom Emmer was talking about CBDC in order to defend the people that he’s allied with in the crypto industry. Before, his motivations were, I thought it was, it was good that it was happening. But isn’t it, isn’t it depressingly strange that nobody in the Senate will support something that has the ability to turn us into the worst dystopian novel that anybody has ever imagined, worse than anything people have imagined in the past? Well, it’s strange and it’s really discouraging because one of the things that Ted said was that he thinks that there’s a reasonable shot that Elizabeth Warren becomes the chair of the finance committee in 2024, depending upon the outcome of the election.
And in fact, Cruz himself is only ahead by two points in Texas. And so there’s been a lot of discussion about the amount of money Soros is putting into Texas and everything else. So Cruz is actually, believe it or not, on the hot seat there again after his challenge from Beto last time around. So, yeah, he said, absolutely. So there really aren’t the votes. I mean, Cynthia Loomis has been one in the Senate who’s also been pro crypto. But I’ll tell you what I think is going to happen is we’re going to have a situation that is going to gain bipartisan support for pushing a CBDC, and that’s going to be around terrorism and money laundering.
You’re already starting to see the discussion around that. That is an issue. So let’s say now that Biden has decided, we’re going to begin our military excursions in the Middle east, if there’s a terrorist attack in the United States, I could see us having CBDC implemented in a matter of a couple of weeks here in the US. If there’s a terrorist attack, because they’ll say, well, it’s about money laundering and terrorism. Crypto is bad, they’ll say, because it’s used for terrorism, which isn’t true or not even close to the scale that cash is used. But then they’ll say, well, we can’t have cash either because cash can’t be traced.
And so this is going to be the typical reason of using a fear based event to push something that absolutely strips us of our rights. The question is, how is Obama going to get billions of dollars to the Iranians if he can’t send them a plane filled with cash? Foreign currencies especially. Maybe it would be the other foreign currencies from other people that he’ll use to pay them off. The problem with these CBDCs is their CBDCs are not like bitcoin, where there’s a transparent ledger of all the transactions and a fixed supply. The kinds of CBDC they’re looking at implementing, they’re going to have control over how much they’ll be able to digitally print it and they’ll be able to, excuse me, program the money in ways that we’re not going to be able to see.
So in some ways they’re going to have even more capacity, capacity to do nefarious things based on how it’s structured. Yeah, we didn’t start with that in terms of the features. And listeners of this program pretty much know about CBDC, but kind of lay out the case against this in a nutshell, when you would present this to people who didn’t know anything about it, because as I pointed out in the past, a lot of times people didn’t know what CBDC was. But if you described the functions to them, and it’s the potential risks of this, the downside of it, they didn’t want to have anything to do with it, but they didn’t know it was CBDC.
So what would be the nutshell case that you would give to somebody who’s kind of coming into it cold? Yeah, I mean, basically central bank digital currencies, or CBDCs, are basically a form of digital money that can be programmed, monitored and censored by the government. So basically, the way you’ll hear the globalists present it is it’s all about financial inclusion and convenience. But in reality, they will be able to see every transaction you spend. They’ll be able to even control how you spend money in the first place. So if you’ve ever had a health savings account, a health savings account is basically a debit card that you’ll get from Visa or Mastercard, and you can only spend it on certain health related items.
Well, imagine that concept except applied to everything you buy. So in other words, if you’re trying to buy something with this digital cash and the thing you’re trying to buy isn’t already on an approved government list, you can’t buy it. It’s also the gateway to other things like social credit systems and everything else. So in the future, if your social credit score drops, if you say something on social media people don’t like, if you use too much CO2, based on whatever their guidelines are, they can actually restrict your usage of cash. If in the future the government decides they need to stimulate the economy, they can actually say, and I’ve seen this in the EU and some of the language around how they’re looking at their CBDC, they can literally just say, use it or lose it.
If you have money in your account in the form of cbdcs, if you don’t use it by such and such a day, we’re literally going to remove it from your account because this is the way that we want to stimulate the economy. It is complete control over human behavior using digital cash that’s controlled by the government. To me, it is the single biggest threat to human liberty, which is why I ran for president and it’s why I wrote the book. Yes, yes. And of course, when we look at it, it’s by knowing everything that you’re doing, they can ration things to you like food, meat and things like that.
They want you to have too much of. It’s also, it hearkens back the beginning, the excerpt that you had in that article that was up on brownstone. The excerpt from your book begins with life. And these people are living in this smart city, 15 minutes city, something like that. And unfortunately, the husband says something that the political authorities take exception to. And it reminded me very much of what we always would hear about Stalinism. You know, they control your job and therefore your, your money, but they also owned your house. So you didn’t, you know, you couldn’t work except with their approval, and they were the ones who were providing you with a home.
So if the political authorities didn’t like that, you were homeless and you were penniless and you were out on the street. But this is far worse than that because they have so much more visibility as to what you’re doing. And we talk about the 15 minutes city issue. That’s another aspect of the CBDC. They can determine where you can spend that money. So maybe you couldn’t spend that money outside of your little 15 minutes area or maybe the larger smart city that they have put you in, you can’t go to another place and have anything to live off of when you, you go there.
So it’s about a kind of control that people have only theorized about in dystopian science fiction models. But it is that and more. It is really a horrific thing, Nate. Well, it’s that more. And actually, if you look at the UN 17 sustainable development goals, you can actually get a sense what I did is just an exercise, as I said. Okay, well, let’s look at all these 17 sustainable development goals. If you were going to turn that into a social credit score, what would you measure and what types of incentives and penalties would you put in place and how would you tie that into a tracking system and into CBDC? And when you go through that exercise, what comes out at the end is something that looks a lot like what already exists in China today.
I think one of the big issues with this and my big urgency on this, again, the reason I’ve been a serial entrepreneur and a political activist for a long time, I dropped everything to focus on this because really two things. One, I saw the person who introduced me to bitcoin in 2020 2012 is now spending eight years in federal prison for the act of selling bitcoin. Another friend of mine who started a company called Library or Odyssey, you may know it, it’s a platform for content. He was targeted by the SEC and basically put out of business because he was using the blockchain technology and was using tokens.
I started to see that not only was the government was, is cracking down big time on decentralized cryptocurrency. And I wanted to look at, well, why are they doing this? Because my friends who are suffering through this weren’t doing illegal activities. They were actually very much hardcore liberty activists that were just engaging in voluntary activity. And then when I studied how far cbdcs had gotten, then I saw, well, wow, the alarm bells went off. Because as of today, there are 1.3 billion registered CBDC accounts globally. People are not aware of this. Yeah, I did. Yeah, go ahead.
China has deployed cbdcs. They’re gradually, they started out with 265 million accounts. They’re rolling it out to the rest of the country. There are eleven other countries that have already implemented cbdcs. There are 130 countries that are at various stages of either exploration or piloting cbdcs. And to put this into perspective, bitcoin has been around for 15 years, and there are multiple different types of crypto. There are 580 million people globally using decentralized crypto. There are 1.3 billion CBDC accounts. So the growth rate on this is phenomenal. And of course it’s forced. So it’s a little bit different than whatever voluntary adoption might be, but it’s eclipsed crypto.
And the more alarming part, and I actually wrote an article thats on zero hedge about this, is the United States has completed three successful CBDC pilots, and this does not hit the mainstream news. And if you ever hear Fed chair Powell talk about CBDC, he does one of these. Well, we dont even know if were going to consider it seriously. It’s still at the discussion stage. The reality is they’ve done three successful pilots. The first pilot is called Project Hamilton, and it was done as a joint venture between the MIT Media lab and the Federal Reserve of Boston.
And this is basically what would replace cash. This is basically what, that’s the substitute in their pilot that they did from 2020 to 2022. They got the technology to work, and it can handle 1.7 million transactions per second. So, to put that in perspective, the current financial system does between 50 and 100,000 transactions per second. So they’ve developed a CBDC that is more than ten times the capacity of the existing financial system. And in the conclusion, what they said is, well, the technology works, but we need to figure out the legality and how to market it.
Which to me says they’re waiting for a crisis to put it to work. But people aren’t aware of that. Now, this gets even worse, because. Because this MIT multimedia lab, the chair of the MIT multimedia lab was a guy named by the name of Joy Ito, who famously received funding from Jeffrey Epstein and visited Epstein’s Island a couple of times. And the article that I wrote about this goes into some. I’ve uncovered some things that were really astonishing. And not to go into too much, I don’t know how much technical detail your audience is used to on crypto or getting into any specifics.
Go into the specifics and go into the details. They can handle it. So I’ll say this. I got involved in bitcoin in 2012, and I’ve been using it. In fact, in New Hampshire, there are stores and restaurants where you can actually use, or could use, up until about 2017, you could actually use bitcoin to buy and sell things. In the state of New Hampshire, something happened in 2017 where there was a big split in the bitcoin world. And the white paper for bitcoin. Bitcoin says in the first sentence that it’s supposed to be used for peer to peer digital cash.
It’s supposed to be used for people as a means of exchange, a means of, basically, it’s a currency. And all of a sudden, in 2017, the narrative shifted from bitcoin being about digital cash to it being about digital gold. Now, it’s something that you hold to preserve your value. It’s something like gold. You don’t use gold typically today for day to day transactions, but you use it to preserve your wealth as the dollar keeps on losing its value, as we keep on printing more money. Well, it turns out that the developer, one of the main developers who was involved in making this technical change, switching bitcoin from cash to gold was also one of the authors of the white paper for Project Hamilton, the CBDC.
And the funding came from this joy Ito guy from MIT Multimedia Media Lab. And I found an article, the only article about this, where Epstein was interviewed, where he talked in 2017 while all this was happening, about how he liked bitcoin but didnt think it was a currency, but instead thought it was a store of value or digital gold. So we have a situation here where this MIT multimedia lab with funding ties to Epstein and Gates, because Gates was actually funneling money into the MIT multimedia lab through Epstein. So it’s like, it’s real incestuous. Wow. Was involved in both developing the CBDC pilot and I would argue hobbling bitcoin at the same time.
And there’s one common developer that was involved in both of those tasks. Wow. So there’s that. There was another CBDC pilot called Project Cder, which is a wholesale CBDC pilot. So it’s basically banks communicating with one another for larger volume transactions and doing cross border transactions which are very expensive and cumbersome. How does that fit in with FedNow, which is what Fed now is sold as a wholesale thing? Was that preliminary to fed now and project? No, that actually was launched after Fednow. Fednow is technically not a CBDC. Fednow is an infrastructure. It’s basically makes real time settlement possible between banks in the United States.
So the focus of it is domestic. This project Cedar is about programmable money that is cross border. And then there’s an even more dystopian pilot called regulated liability network. And I find with these things, if they give it a really boring name, then there’s probably, probably some real nefarious agenda behind it. Because it took me several times to read the white paper on this thing to fully understand what it is. The idea behind regulated liability network is it’s one database, basically to track all cbdcs and non CBDC transactions. It’s basically like an Uber database that tracks everything, whether whether it’s cbdcs from one country to another, or it even contemplates bitcoin.
And what is really frightening is the idea of tokenizing everything. So this is a big movement right now, and you’ll see Blackstone talking about it, real world assets and everything else. But basically we’re moving to a model where people are tokenizing everything, tokenizing stocks. This computer that I have in the future could be tokenized. Every asset you have could have a digital token associated with it. And through this regulated liability network, you’re going to be able to have multiple regulatory agencies monitoring, censoring and tracking transactions across different blockchains and cbdcs, as well as these digital tokens.
So in the future, not only could they shut off your money, but if I go to the store and I buy a new Apple computer and it is associated with a digital token, if the government decides my social credit score drops or they don’t like what I say on social media, they can not only shut off my money, they can shut off access to my computer or in my ability to even sell the computer. So it’s the next level dystopian infrastructure that they’re putting in place. Those three pilots, all three of them have one commonality, which is funding from the MIT multimedia lab.
Wow. Wow. Yeah. One network to rule them all, essentially. And there’s also funding from DARPA going to Microsoft for something I talk about frequently, the Coalition for Content Provenance and authentication. That is there to, quote, unquote, push against disinformation, misinformation. It’s there to shut down free speech. But what that does is that marks anything that you do. And it’s a coalition of hardware and software manufacturers as well as a coalition of gatekeeper media companies that are allied with the government. And so when we look at this, every aspect of our life, free speech and any kind of commercial transactions, they want to centrally control and be able to shut down anything and everything that we do, our speech, our movement, our financial transactions, everything.
But the CBDC is right at the center of all of this. And of course, the Biden administration began, what was it, March 9 or something, 2022, where he, he tells everybody in the federal government to got four areas that we, everybody had, all of the bureaucrats under the executive branch, the deep state, they all had one of four areas that they needed to report back on to back to him in six months. It was how are we going to completely redesign the financial system? How are we going to do the software to make this thing work? Law enforcement had one of the different branches.
How are we going to enforce this, enforce people to do it? And finally, they were going to market it with environmental issues because that’s one of the tactics that they use against cryptocurrency, to say that the crypto mining is too inefficient. But of course, these are people keeping dossiers on everything and everybody in the world and keeping them at their data centers as well as constant surveillance and data mining. So that’s kind of a sham. But they’re very serious about that. And as soon as they did that, they started rolling out Fednow. But you believe that this is something that may happen even before the election? I think it’ll happen before, it could happen before the election.
This is why I’m so passionate about this and trying to get the message out. But yeah, Biden passed executive order fourteen zero six seven, as you just described, which contemplates both pursuing a CBDC and also regulating all of the other digital assets. And they’ve been following through on that. There are numerous exchanges that have, in fact, most of the exchanges have gone under. There are numerous tokens and projects that have been targeted by the SEC, like my friend who started library and my other friend who’s in jail for selling bitcoin. So they’ve actually been cracking down on bitcoin.
ATm’s. Your ability to buy and sell. The IR’s just passed a new thing which says that you have to fill out paper paperwork for any crypto transactions in excess of $10,000. And of course they did that and then didn’t provide the form. So in other words, there was, you can’t comply. Basically there was no way to comply. And so basically you couldn’t do, it’s essentially a way of saying you can’t do any transactions north of $10,000 without risking criminal penalties and going to jail. So they have been very successful at hobbling decentralized crypto and adoption. And again, these pilots are sitting there, technology is sitting there waiting to be deployed.
And Fed now is the infrastructure on top of which they can put a CBDC, or I guess technically they could, if they wanted to be backhanded about it, they could. Actually, Congress is required in order to put through a new currency. But there’s nothing that says that the banks can’t regulate how the existing currency is sent back and forth. So you could get effectively a de facto all of the negative aspects of a CBDC by regulating, regulating the way money is transmitted through the Fed now system. So I’ve thought about that as a possibility as well.
So from my perspective, when I look at again, Biden and what he’s decided, we’re going to take military action in the Middle east. You can imagine a situation where if there’s a terrorist attack on american soil, you will get bipartisan support for a CBDC on the basis of stopping money loss laundering and terrorism. And as an example for this, the Patriot act was passed 45 days after 911, TARP was passed 18 days after Lehman Brothers collapsed. And the $2.2 trillion CARES act was passed 15 days after Covid was officially declared a pandemic on a voice vote.
Many people are still in Congress have voted for all three of those things. So the idea that they wouldn’t usher in cbdcs in an emergency, I think there’s a high probability that they could bring it in an emergency. And from my conversations with Ted Cruz, Cynthia Loomis, and then some of the folks like Warren Davidson and others in the House, the votes are simply not there before the 2024 election to stop something like this. And again, if it’s done under an emergency, it’ll probably get bipartisan support. Wow, that is amazing. And of course, an emergency could also include some kind of a financial emergency.
That’s what many people, people have been talking about. And I’m sure you kind of war game that out as well. Do you see this possibly happening with some kind of a financial emergency? Because they certainly have created their conditions ripe for a financial emergency, just like they’ve created conditions ripe for world War three or a terrorist attack. Well, yeah, my opinion is that what we’re seeing is an actual intentional controlled demolition of the existing financial system, because it’s the typical problem reaction solution model. They create the problem, they try to generate a reaction, which is usually fear, and then they already have the solution waiting in the winnings.
They already know they want to implement CBDC, they’ve already developed the technology, and clearly the world is going in that direction. A financial crisis, if you look at it, the dollar has gone from being backed by gold to banks being required to hold at least 10% of customer deposits in reserves. We have a fractional reserve banking system that was eliminated under Covid, so banks are no longer required to have 10% of customer deposits on reserve, which means that, okay, if you go in to take your money out of the bank, where is the bank getting the money to be able to satisfy your withdrawal request? Well, they’re getting it from a principal and interest.
On what? Commercial real estate, which is failing. Residential real estate, which is struggling consumer debt. Student loans, which were just restarted recently, and 46% folks said, well, I’m not going to repay my student loans right out of the bat. So the bank is already in a situation where they have no reserves and basically their source of liquidity is drying up. So I think our banking system is in an incredibly weak position. And this at a time when Russia announced today one of their strategic plans for 20 to 24 is to get off the dollar as soon as possible.
The BRICs are moving aggressively to get off the dollar. So you basically have pressure on the dollar, on fiat currency and on the banks from multiple directions in a way that we haven’t seen in modern history. I think that collapse is the baseline scenario. And the best thing that we can do is actually to get out of the dollar and start using, using self custody, crypto gold and silver in a parallel economy to protect ourselves or otherwise we’re going to get forced into CBDC. That’s how we get forced into CBDC. All of a sudden one day it’s, oh, your fiat currency is now CBDC.
That’s going to be a bank’s holiday and that’s it. Yes. And we have, one of our major sponsors is wise wolf gold and silver. We set up Davidknight gold. And whenever I talk about it, Aaron, I say I dont look at gold as really they can manipulate the price of gold, they can manipulate the value of the dollar. So these things are constantly fluctuating and fluctuating for their advantage. And you try to time this, youre going to get burned. I said no, I look at it as a necessity because of CBDC. I look at it and youre talking about crypto gold and silver.
It really is necessary. You talk about the fragility of the banking system, commercial real estate that you pointed out that is heavily, heavily impacting the small and medium sized banks. And they’re already shaky because of the rapid escalation of interest rates that left them trapped with t bills and things like that as we saw several bank failures. So the entire banking industry, except for the really big guys that are going to be too big to fail, they’re going to be partnering with the Federal Reserve and they will make sure that they, the Jamie Dimon and these people continue and they’re stuff.
But the rest of the banking industry is incredibly fragile at this point because of these volatility in the interest rates that caught them out and because of commercial real estate stuff, that again hearkens back to Covid. Let’s talk a little bit about Nigeria. Because of all the countries that tried this stuff, Nigeria was one where they did an early experiment. People didn’t like it. What can we learn from that experiment and what did they learn from that experiment? Because I’m sure that they have fine tuned the way that they’ll impose it on us after what they saw with Nigeria.
So what are your comments about Nigeria? Well, Nigeria is an interesting case and actually talked to several people on a Twitter space from Nigeria about this as it was going on. One of the things that you’ll find. And one of the things I talk about in the book is that there really is a push here towards one world global government. And there are specific organizations involved in pushing this, specifically things like cbdcs. And those organizations include the WEF, the UN, the International Monetary Fund and the World bank. And in the case of Nigeria, Nigeria is one of these examples where nobody in the country wanted a CBDC.
Nobody was asking for a CBDC. The CBDC was pushed on them by the World bank and the IMF with strings, as those organizations often do, as they go in and help destroy property rights and destroy countries for purpose of enforcing their own standards and their own will. So Nigeria was not set up from a technological perspective to have cbdcs. So just from a basic perspective, so it doesn’t really apply as much here because obviously most people here are using online banking or have cell phones or whatever. I mean, we’re already, from a technical standpoint, able to handle the actual adoption of it.
But in Nigeria, they literally didn’t have the technical infrastructure. And so people were going to ATM’s and all of a sudden couldn’t pull out cash and you had fires and rioting and everything else. And so it really, I think in that particular instance came down to this was a country where they weren’t technologically enabled for it and they handled the marketing and the rollout of it in a horrible way. And if I recall correctly, I think the head of their central bank is in prison right now because there are also claims of corruption involving a whole variety of different issues.
And so I don’t know that we can take much from the nigerian experiment and apply it here. And because there are 1.3 billion people on the planet that now have CBDC accounts, a lot of the arguments are of the complacency is, well, yeah, maybe they’ve done it in some of these smaller countries, but they can’t do it here. Well, no, if they can do it in China, then from a technological perspective, they can do it here. And again, the tech already exists. So if people were willing to take vaccines for a doughnut or a medium order french fries, then they’ll use the carrot.
They’ll use the carrot and the stick, or the stick. It depends on the situation. So either we’re going to have some fear based events and it’ll be pushed in to keep everybody safe, or they’ll try to make it one of these things where I’ll get 1.3 digital dollars for every $1 you have in your bank account. And most people if they’re unaware of what’s going on behind the scenes, will actually take it because it seems like a good deal at the time. And all of their marketing is about convenience and financial inclusion. These are their buzzwords.
I’m going to do another article that talks about the doublespeak and provides a guidebook to what these terms mean when these people are pushing this out. Because the biggest one you’re going to hear, we heard it at Davos again a couple of weeks ago. You hear it at the UN. It’s financial inclusion. This is all about financial inclusion. That’s how they try to market it. And it couldn’t be anything further from the truth. Yeah, they want to exclude you from everything because you’re not going to be a stakeholder. They’re going to be the people that have all the stakes, that they’re holding all the stakes on us.
That’s the type of thing that gates worked with India on with the Aadhar system. And he came in saying, you know what? These people are just not included in society. They need to have an id. It’s like, oh, I didn’t realize that was what was missing from my life, some kind of government id. And so they incentivized it with the poor people saying, if you take the number of the government, the number of the beast you’re going to get, you can get some welfare, you can get healthcare and that type of thing. And we’ve seen this, Aaron, with worldcoin, Sam Altman is out there saying, well, you let us scan your eyeball or whatever, we’ll give you some free world coin.
And so I think there’ll be a stage. And when I look at Nigeria, maybe they tried to roll it out slowly, kind of incentivize it, thinking, well, maybe we’ve got some poor people here. We can offer them something and do it that way. But people didn’t really want it. So then when the bribery doesn’t work, they come out with the bands and the blunt instruments and start beating you, you know, into coercion. And that’s, I think, really where the emergency scenario that you talked about, I think people are going to rapidly catch on to what this is about unless there is an emergency.
And as you pointed out, when there’s an emergency, everybody’s brain just shuts off because of the fear. And they’re grasping for anything. No matter how obviously, obviously dangerous and risky it is. They will grab for that, you know, because this is not even something that’s going to directly affect their health like a vaccine. This is something that is a danger to their freedom, a danger to them politically and legally in the future. And so, of course, they’re not going to have as much resistance to it, I don’t think, as they did to taking the shot when they were told there was an emergency.
And it works every time. Fear works every time. And they know it works. And I will tell you one of the things that’s interesting. I traveled to 20 states last year meeting with various groups of people, and I will say 80% at least had never heard of CBDCs. That’s right. So this is not a phrase or a concept or a topic that has hit the mainstream at all. But I’ll tell you something even more alarming, and it’s really changed my strategy with this. I originally thought early, well, maybe it’ll be the younger generation that will adopt this because, because they’re more used to technology.
But I’ve actually, I’m focusing more of my attention on boomers and Gen X for a variety of reasons. One, they have all of the wealth. I mean, I think boomers have 53% of the wealth in this country, but they also have some kind of remembrance of privacy, or concept of privacy and individual rights. What I’m seeing with Gen Z, and even millennials to a certain degree, is a complete disconnect. There’s a, I think Katie Plato had a report out that said something like 35% of Gen Z would be okay with the federal government installing security cameras in people’s homes to monitor for domestic violence.
I remember that. Yeah, big brother. Big brother. And so the idea of privacy. So they’re going to be more inclined to be like, yeah, well, whatever, this is more convenient. It’s digital. Why wouldn’t we use this? So I’m actually focusing my effort more on boomers and Gen X at this point. Not that eventually we need to get everyone, but the barrier is even harder for the younger generations because they don’t have an expectation of privacy and they don’t value, they don’t value it as much. Think about it, and I’ve mentioned it many times, I thought it was very interesting how they, and I don’t believe it was a coincidence.
I believe they started all the big brother stuff that the reality tv, and it was put out there when these generations are very young, and a lot of them consumed that. And then, oh, by the way, now we got social media. You can do, you can be a big brother celebrity too. You might get a lot of followers. And so it really kind of helped to break down those barriers. And people became kind of exhibitionists about their private life, and they weren’t careful about what they were putting out there publicly. And so they don’t really care about privacy.
They would much rather be known by everybody that that’s out there. They don’t get the big picture. You know, when DeSantis talked about it, he had about a 20 or 30 minutes press conference, and he had the sign up that said big Brother digital money. And I was absolutely blown away that after he gives this presentation, talking about what we’ve been talking about and all the downsides of how it could be used and abused against people, the first question was, yeah, but what about President Trump and Alvin Bragg in Manhattan going on with that trial? And it’s like, it’s total non sequitur about that.
And so everybody is caught up in the, in the, in the theatrics of politics and everything. And, and, you know, nobody there. The press was really interested. Maybe they were, maybe that was a millennial who was asking the question. It’s like big brother, who cares? I love big brother. That’s one of my favorite tv shows. You know, it’s like there’s this total disconnect from reality, total disconnect to all these existential issues that are popping up very quickly. And even if they had debates, as you pointed out, the debates, that the same questions are being asked that were asked 30, 40 years ago and they’re not really relevant today, but they control everything.
And then they, this time around, they’ve even shut down. The debates are going to shut down, essentially, the presidential primaries. Talk a little bit about, you said that Ramaswamy read your book and pass it on to Trump. Now, you know, when I saw Trump make the announcement, he just mentioned central bank digital currency and our reaction to it. And one of the listeners said, so I guess he got ahold of some of those analytics out there that said that some people are aware of this and he needs to talk about it. But maybe it was Ramaswamy whispering into his ear.
But I don’t really, you know, I don’t trust the fact that he’s going to do anything about it because it was in his administration that Steve Mnuchin, treasury secretary, and Jared Kushner were talking about CBDC and what they could do to afford it. So I think this is a bipartisan thing. As you’ve pointed out, not very many people in Congress have any concern about this, even if they know what it is. And this might be something that they may talk about. But, you know, can we really trust any of these guys doing anything about it? And as you pointed out, they could very easily roll this stuff in before we even have an election.
Speaker one. Yeah, so, so rum Swami did bring it up to Trump, and in fact, Trump gave him credit for it. Trump explicitly gave, gave vibe credit for pushing him on the CBDC issue. Do I believe him? No. I was arguing with somebody said, well, didn’t repeal Obamacare, we could go through the building, the wall and have back to go through all the laundry lists. But am I going to rest safe and sound thinking that he’s not going to do this? One of the things that I have found that Trump does is he’ll make a promise and then he’ll go back on it, but then he’ll claim it’s because he’s really good at doing deals.
And this is how you get good deals done. And then his followers will just accept that he never gets any accountability because of that. Somehow he’s been able to use this device of being the art of the deal. He’s been able to craft that into a kind of a scapegoat for not following through on principle. But more importantly, and this is one of the areas that Vivek and I disagreed on a little bit, which is I actually put out a candidate pledge. And the pledge was, yes, if elected, I will veto and do everything in my power to stop a CBDC.
But there was a second part to the pledge that says, if they try to implement it before the 2024 election, I will do my best to promote the idea to the american citizens directly that they should move into self custody, crypto gold and silver, as a way to stop it before the election. And that was a sticking point with me and Vivek. I was actually trying to get him to sign that pledge. And this is the bigger point. So is Trump, is he on this issue because of the analytics? Because it’s something that it looks like he needs to actually say in order to get elected? Or is he really going to be willing to, even before the election, if they try to put it in, use his megaphone to encourage people to take direct action to stop it? I do not believe he will do that.
We need to talk before we run out of time about self custody on some of these things. And as you point out, you’ve gotten completely out of cash. Just, just real quickly, though, it’d be interesting. Did you have any discussions with anybody, any other candidates besides Ramaswamy that were running, and besides Ted Cruz, who has talked about any other politicians that you’ve talked to and what might be their responses? Well, I’ve got a dozen or so state reps in New Hampshire that have signed my pledge. I’ve talked to state reps in different, you know, Montana, Texas, and a variety of different states at the local level.
And there’s a big push now at the state level to try to make gold and silver legal tender at the state level. So I’ve been talking to some of the people involved in that. They’re working heavily on that here in Tennessee, even trying to get a state bank and a state depository and trying to get the state government to own gold in case there is some kind of a financial emergency. Yeah. So there are efforts. I’ve also, I debated, ironically, I couldn’t get into any republican debates, but I had multiple debates with various libertarian presidential candidates.
And so the libertarian presidential candidates, not surprisingly, are all against CBDCs. And a couple of them, Mike Tirmatt and Michael Rectenwald, have actually signed my pledge. So if you actually look at it right now, RFK Trump, the leading candidates in the race, everybody but Biden, has at least stated their anti CBD. So that’s something. But again, to me, it’s something, but not enough. It’s not enough. I know. It’s more interesting that these people would even just turn their back on it. I mean, a pledge is easy enough to sign, and when they don’t do that, that tells you a great deal about people like Nikki or whatever.
But let’s talk about the self custody and things that we can do as individuals, because there really isn’t anything that we can do. I think that there’s not much we can do in Washington. It’s difficult to get anything done, even at the state level. What can we do as individuals? What have you done? Well, what I’ve done. So I got into crypto in 2012. In 2019, I exited the dollar completely and moved everything into crypto, gold and silver. In fact, I’d been a political activist for a long time. I’d given up on the political process as well.
I helped get people elected. I’ve run for a number of different offices and like, look, this is done. I’m going to move into crypto. I’m going to move into this technology and start thinking about parallel economies and everything else. And then Covid happened and a variety of other things. And then I saw, well, this isn’t just about having decentralized alternatives. They’re taking perverted forms of this technology and using it to create complete tyranny. So there’s no coexisting, there’s no going and hiding in a cabin in the woods when your opponent wants a one world global technocracy where they have control over every aspect of humanity and control the land, air and the sea, that doesn’t coexist with hiding out somewhere.
So I realized we actually have to confront this head on. I’ve been using, and my book goes into specific details on which cryptos to consider. Wallets with gold and silver. In fact, this probably won’t, probably can’t see this, or you can see this. I’m holding a gold back. I don’t know if you’ve seen these. This is one 1000th of an ounce of gold. And I’ve actually. I give these to people if I go to a restaurant or something, I will typically give these as a tip with some kind of an explanation so that, you know, you now have.
Because one of the big concerns about gold is, well, how are you going to, what are you going to do, go to a grocery store and, you know, slice off a piece of gold? And. And so these gold backs are a way of putting gold into a. Into a usable form. I’ve also used silver. You know, even you can get silver in one 10th of an ounce increments. And so you can use that actually for day to day trade. And again, I’m in New Hampshire, where there’s a lot of receptivity to these kinds of things. With respect to crypto, I recommend, I’m not selling or promoted by, I only recommend cryptos that are based on the bitcoin white paper, that are decentralized, that don’t have a centralized corporate structure, because those cryptos can be easily shut down by the government and in some ways aren’t even materially different than the existing system.
Something like Ethereum is completely centralized, and the way that it operates, the transactions can be reversed. It doesn’t really offer any real true innovation with respect to Preston, and many people have talked about maybe Ethereum might be the substrate in which they build something real quickly to put it out there on people. I did not realize that the Ethereum transactions could be reversed. That’s interesting. Well, they can be reversed, because now, instead of it being this proof of work model where you have computers competing to solve math puzzles, to see who adds the next block of transactions, these are now more controlled by whoever has more coins, has a greater say in adding the transactions to the next block.
So it’s kind of like a normal system where it’s controlled by a smaller group of elites. It’s also very expensive to use. Yeah. And arguably, it could be in illegal security. So what I’m looking for are specifically, and I want to be clear about this, I’m not making investment recommendation advice. I’m talking about the use of cryptocurrency as cash, as a replacement for cash, which is different than as a speculative investment. So bitcoin, which I mentioned, went through this thing in 2017, where there were some technological changes made to it, made it unusable really, as cash.
There is a period of time in 2017, you had Expedia, Microsoft, Overstock.com, dot, you had major companies and websites taking bitcoin directly as a payment option. And what happened was, because of extra use, the transaction fees went up to as high as dollar 55. So if youre going to spend dollar 55 and in some cases ten to 14 days to complete a transaction that made bitcoin unusable as money. Now, they had an option. They had an option which is they could increase what are called the size of the blocks. So basically make it so that every ten minutes you can handle more transactions, which is what basically the bitcoin white paper and some of the other discussions contemplated.
But instead of doing that, they decided to implement this completely alternative system. And so bitcoin has not recovered from that peak in 2017, where it was being used directly as a payment option. They now have this thing called lightning network and all these other things that are complicated, hard to use, and have a variety of other issues associated with it. I found myself using predominantly bitcoin cash. Bitcoin SV, Ravencoin and Litecoin are the main cryptocurrencies that I’ve been using as cash, with bitcoin cash being the one that I’ve used the most. So bitcoin cash actually split off from bitcoin and has.
So its essentially the same as the original bitcoin model, except with larger transaction capacity. So thats what ive been using. And what you can do is there are certain stores where you can use bitcoin cash directly, and you can also convert bitcoin cash to a debit card if you need to, and use that to make transactions. Then there are services like Bitpay where you can actually pay, in certain cases, your mortgage and other bills directly, directly using crypto through a third party application like Bitpay. I outline all of this in my book in terms of how you can actually acquire these cryptos and actually use them for day to day transactions to pay your bills.
Preston, do you address having an offline wallet and that type of thing? Because that’s the other way that they can shut this stuff down. Of course, shutting down the Internet and shutting down these online transactions. And that’s one aspect of this as a boomer whos not gotten involved in this, that I dont understand, and that is the wallet offline. Is that something that you use? Is that something you talk about in your book, Preston? Well, one thing I didnt mention, I stress self custody. One part about this is that you want to get a wallet and you dont want to have it in an exchange like coinbase.
That may be where you need to acquire the crypto, but you want to have it on your own device. Or there are things called hardware wallets or other options where you can store your keys and basically have in your own possession your cryptocurrency. I get this question a lot. Well, what if the grid goes down? I mean, to be honest, if the grid goes down, then we’re going to be after 90 days in a state of cannibalism. That’s not even a joke. I know. So there are other things you can do around that. There are things that you can do like create mesh networks, and there’s whole other side to this, which ways of being off grid and creating alternative networks to maybe keep some of this stuff going.
But this is why I recommend crypto, gold and silver. I’m not recommending just crypto or just gold or just silver. I think to predict that any one crypto or any one of these things is going to win out at the end of the day would be foolish. It’s good to have a balanced approach. And when I do my workshop, at the end, people will have a gold back, they’ll have silver, and they’ll have a self custody crypto wallet with some crypto in it just to get them started with the process. But it’s something you have to monitor on an ongoing basis.
I mean, I’m constantly, there are more. I saw this Rodney Dangerfield joke. It was, I went to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out, and I feel like I went to a political debate in a bitcoin fork war broke out. I mean, there’s so much division and infighting within crypto, and it actually makes it hard for me. I’d like to be able to say to somebody, buy this crypto, and here’s the solution. I can’t. What I can do is I can educate you on a variety of options and ways of looking at this and to say you need to stay up on it, because I’m staying up on it.
It’s changed. It changes so rapidly, and it’s going to continue to change based on government crackdowns. There are lawsuits going on within the bitcoin community. One coming up called the Coppa versus Craig Wright lawsuit, which has huge implications, depending on how that goes, that will affect bitcoin and the derivatives of it. And so there’s just a lot to stay on top of. But I do encourage people to, as I outline in the book, get some small amount of crypto and put it in self custody and start figuring out how it works. There’s no substitute for experience and playing around with it.
Well, that’s good. And your book is the final countdown. Crypto, gold, silver and the people last stand against tyranny by central bank digital currencies. And in that, you not only lay out a fictional scenario of what it’s going to be like so people can understand, so they can talk to other, other people about this, but it also, you got some practical tips in there as well. And were there some comments there, Travis, that people had? Let me read these comments to you. We got just a little bit of time left here. This is, this is from Serge the purge, who has also has a podcast.
Thank you for the tip surge. He says, david, I strongly feel this is the wrong mentality with CBDC. I’m 24, I’m Gen Z, and my parents are Gen X. And most Gen Xers I’ve talked to think there’s nothing to see here. A lot of them think that they’re still on the eighties. If anything, we must educate people in my age group. We’re the ones who are going to have to live with this in the future. Trump is hope porn. I personally wouldn’t even entertain him in the conversation of stopping CBDC. All just talking points. Call me back.
Call me black pill. But this is such a serious issue. I think rather educate on gold and silver and help people my age understand the severity of the future through CBDC. Most boomers I’ve talked to literally told me to my face they’ll be gone anyway. You know, I hear that all the time, Aaron, when I talk to people about taking away cars, taking away your ability to drive cars, and they said, well, yeah, I think that’s going to happen, but it’s not going to happen in my lifetime. And then I would have people at auto shows who were 18 years old who would tell me that.
And it’s like, and we look at this stuff, and we look at how they’re cracking down on this and the types of narratives that they pushed to us. I think everybody needs to be concerned about this. And I think the book that you got there and the scenario that you’ve laid out, I think that’s very important. Again, the final countdown. Is that available on Amazon? I guess it’s available on Amazon, and it’s in kindle form, hard hardback, paperback and also audiobook. But to address the question that you had, I’m not just focused on boomers. The book is made to be accessible to everyone.
There’s a very specific reason, though, that if anything, I’m spending a little bit more time. It’s this. It’s the banking collapse as it is staged right now. It’s a controlled demolition of the banking system. In order to stop the acceleration, we actually need to accelerate the banking system collapse. And the way to do that is the boomers have all of the wealth. So this is just a simple math problem of if you’re going to try to get people to take money out of the system and move it into these alternatives, boomers and Gen X simply have more resources in the bank.
It’s not a question of, of millennials and Gen Z. And I mean, I have 13 year old twins, and so certainly I don’t want to leave anybody out. But so the material is accessible to everyone. But I’m focused on where we can get the biggest impact. And I’ve talked to a lot of boomers that are actually take the opposite view. They’re very concerned about their kids and their grandchildren, and they’re very concerned on the other end about what’s going on. I’m Gen X. So you see these memes where it’s like boomers fighting with millennials while Gen X kind of just sits there and relaxes and has a martini while watching it.
And I’m not saying that that’s what it’s like, but there is more. Well, and I’ll say this, too, we look at people, people who retired. All my life, I’ve noticed this. The people who retired have got more time, and they are not as busy with life as the younger generations are. And so many of them will get involved very heavily and be very knowledgeable about politics. And as you pointed out, a lot of them are concerned. I think the best of them are going to be concerned about future generations, people who are only concerned about themselves.
They’re not going to be a part of the solution in anything. It’s only going to be the people who are looking after, who wants to not ruin the future for future generations, for their children, for their grandchildren especially. Those are the people who can make the change. As you point out, they’ve got most of the financial assets. They’ve got time that they can get involved in this instead of playing shuffleboard or something. And they can have a real positive effect for other people. I do see that. I do understand and agree with that. You also sell your book at your website, is that correct? Do you want to give that to people? Well, my website is day two zero two four dot com dot.
That’s my old campaign site. It just links to Amazon. If you want to see what I was campaigning about. It’s a good place to go, a good centralized resource for that. Well, a very interesting discussion and we’ve let it go over a little bit on time because it was so interesting. But thank you so much for joining us again, folks. Aaron Day and the, the book is final countdown to CB. Final countdown. The crypto, gold, silver and people’s last stand against tyranny by CBDC. So that is actually spells it out so you can find it there on Amazon.
And of course, Aaron Day, you can look by author. Aaron, thank you so much, Aaron, and good luck to you. I certainly hope you can get the word out. We need to get that word out. It’s one of the reasons why we talked about the political position on this. And it is important to know who the people are that are so dead set against our liberty that they won’t even make a worthless campaign pledge. That is cheap. That is cheap to just say, yeah, I agree with you. Sure. Shake your hand, oh, I absolutely love it, and then go do something else.
But the people who won’t even, even do that, we need to mark those people. Thank you so much, Aaron. Appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Bye. Thank you. The David Knight show is a critical thinking super spreader. If you’ve been exposed to logic by listening to the David Knight show, please do your part and try not to spread it. Financial support or simply telling others about the show causes this dangerous information to spread. Father, people have to trust me. I mean, trust the science. Wear your mask, take your vaccine, don’t ask questions. Using free speech to free minds.
It’s the David Knight show. All right. Welcome back. And joining us now is J. Warner Wallace. He’s been a guest once before. We’ve talked about his background. He was a cold case detective. This is somebody who goes back and investigates murder cases, things that don’t have a statute of limitations murder cases where perhaps all the witnesses have died, and he’s just going back looking at the physical evidence of it. He’s now written a book called the Truth and True Crime. And I love the tag line here. When investigating death teaches us about the meaning of life.
It looks like a fantastic book. And so I wanted to get him on to talk about that one as well. Thank you for joining us, sir. Well, thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. This is my favorite book I’ve written so far, so I’m glad to talk about it. Oh, it looks like a great angle and something that really affects all of us, and everybody loves the crime aspect and the things that you glean from it, too. Really interesting. I think. Yeah, I think there’s actually some hidden. Like, I was not a Christian through all my career, but through the first eight years or so, I was not a believer until I was 35.
I became a believer by examining the gospels kind of from a forensic perspective. How do we know, or why would we trust, if we tested these people as eyewitnesses, why would we even think, number one, that they are written by eyewitnesses or even anybody who had access to eyewitnesses? And if you did believe that, how would you test them to see if they could pass the test? Now, once I was in, I started to look at human behavior a little bit differently. Right. If you work murders, you are seeing people at their rawest point, the point at which all of the kind of bars are off.
I mean, this is, sadly, when you get to a point where you’re willing to do something crazy like this, it’s probably because you’ve been pushed to a certain limit and your true nature is now going to be revealed. And it really, I think, exposes all of our true nature. So I wanted to write a book that just talked about, like, what are these attributes, the 15 attributes of human flourishing that I discovered in 15 separate crime stories and then talk about, you know, is that something, number one, that, yeah. Secular people, they do studies on this and they confirm that this is, these are 15 things that if you simply embrace these 15 principles, you will have a better life.
But it turns out these are 15 ancient descriptions of human nature from scripture that people, for the most part, think they’re discovering them in the last three decades, when, in fact, these have been on the pages of the New Testament for 2000 years. And so I really wanted to do a book where I kind of demonstrated that. That’s amazing. Yeah. And why did you do a forensic investigation of Christianity in the first place. Well, I was 35, so it’s probably about 1995 or six, right in that range. It took me about 18 months, I would say, to complete that stuff that I was so skeptical and not raised around christians or anybody, really, who believed in God in a way they could articulate.
So I didn’t have, like, a leg up, like somebody who could say, hey, look at this, or look at that. I had to come at it raw. And so I bought my first bible. I was 35, and it took me a while to kind of go through the gospels, and I was just tearing them apart from just word usage, you know, all the attributes. I wrote about this in a book called Cold Case Christianity, and that book just kind of covers that journey. But that’s something that it’ll get you to the point where you might believe it’s true.
Look, I think that as a boomer, as somebody who’s older, I have a high value for whether something is true or not. And there are people in my generation would probably agree, but I don’t know if that’s the case for young people, Gen Z and millennials. I think they’re not as concerned about whether something’s true because they’ve co opted that word. That word doesn’t mean it’s true anymore. It means it’s true for me. That’s right. It’s true based on my lived experience, or it’s true based on how I have applied it to my life, doesn’t mean it’s true for them.
Now, when I use the word true, I’m using it in a more objective way, but it’s true for all of us, whether we like it or not. I think that this generation I’m talking to now is more concerned about whether or not it’s good, because they believe they’ve been sold by the culture that Christianity is the source behind every evil intent. Misogyny, racism, homophobia, whatever it may be. It’s really. They were going to attribute it to this traditional western culture worldview that we hold as christians. So I wanted to show that. Yeah, but if you didn’t believe in Christianity, you’re probably already employing its teaching if you’re flourishing.
And the more you detach from its teaching, the more you’re going to struggle. So I just. Look, this is what we’re seeing in culture. So I wrote a book this time which really looks at all of the data. So most of my books I spend a lot of time researching. And although this book has about 50 pages in the printed edition of footnotes, there are 200 pages in the PDF file we provide online. Why? Because I want you to see that if I’m making this claim, it’s supported by the data. But it turns out that that data simply supports what was claimed in Scripture 2000 years ago.
So it’s eye opening for me to realize that our human, it makes sense, though. Think about it. If we are designed by a creative creator God who knows something about us and we are in his image, then it turns out that that book we have called scripture, called the Bible, ought to describe us the way we really are. And if it does describe us the way we really are, you could consider that as least. I was listening to a pundit who usually talks about politics recently who is jewish. And when asked when he defends why he is jewish, he says, well, because it turns out that these principles work.
Oh, that’s interesting. And he sees that as an evidence that the worldview is true. Okay. And by the way, that may or may not be an evidence that your worldview is true. But it strikes me that if your worldview is true, it ought to describe you the way you really are. And so in that sense, it could provide you with some insight into your human nature and how you could flourish. Yeah. It would be necessary. Not necessarily sufficient, but it would be necessary for. For that. Yeah, true. Right. That’s right. Exactly right. Yeah. What is, what’s the most surprising thing that you found out about human nature in investigating this? Well, so every, so every chapter is a crime story, right? So in one of these stories, I talk about celebrity and how sometimes when you are a local, especially in the gang cultures, if you’re somebody who’s known locally, you kind of become like a celebrity in your own neighborhood or at least in your own clique or your own gang.
And I’ve got one of these stories here to show how detrimental our pursuit of celebrity is. And the reason why I wrote that chapter is because, because I don’t think it’s just, it’s not just a few of us who are seeking celebrity anymore. I mean, there are no gatekeepers. You know this. Even think about it. We are able not to develop our own personal platforms without a gatekeeper at NBC, ABC, or CB’s that used to be, or Salem, whatever the radio station was, that used to be the gatekeepers that kept people from becoming a celebrity. Those are gone.
So now all of us, if we can develop a following, we can make it from zero to a million listeners without any support. And that’s where I think we have to be careful. It turns out that one of the most powerful attributes that we could adopt as humans that would change your life. As a matter of fact, if you simply embraced this virtue, you will have increased flourishing in every single metric that we use to actually measure human flourishing, longevity, mental health, physical health, the deepness of your relationships, that improvement will improve your marriage. They’ll make you a better employer, a better employee.
You’ll learn at a higher level, you’ll get better grades, you’ll make more money. I mean, every way that we measure flourishing improves if you simply adopt this one thing. And it’s really the opposite of celebrity. It is the attribute we know as humility. Now, they’ve been studying this for about three days and looking at all kinds of studies that are out there that talks about how humble people succeed at levels that are far higher than the rest of us and why that might be true. Okay, fine. But it turns out that humility is one of those things that I think if I asked people, hey, what do you think is the one attribute you could adopt that would help you in every aspect of your life at a higher level than anything else? I don’t think many people would come up with humility, but it turns out, yeah, it is actually the thing we need to embrace.
Now, what’s interesting about that, think about every worldview that’s out there. None of them leverage humility like the christian worldview. What I mean is, if your theistic worldview, your spiritual worldview, encourages you to do these certain things to reach the highest level that your spiritual worldview offers. In other words, if it is about earning something, thats a transaction between you and God, a transaction between you and the universe. Theres no way to avoid pride in that kind of a system because at some point, youre going to look across the room and say, im doing better than that.
Did we measure based on our achievements? Right. And I have a friend whos now no longer with us named Mike Adams. Mike and I would travel and do a lot of events together. And he used to always tease. Ive written this book, how to become humble in ten easy steps, and how I made it in eight. It’s like this. There’s no way that you can pursue humility without at some point doing just the opposite and becoming prideful. So it turns out that humility is something, it’s an assessment. Spurgeon calls it the proper assessment of who we are before a holy God.
Now, Christianity leverages this because it’s the one worldview that says, no, it’s not a transition transaction. There’s nothing you can do to earn this. As a matter of fact, if whatever the highest thing you think you hope to achieve in your worldview is, we’re going to give it to you. It’s a free gift over here. Why? So that Paul says, no one can boast. It’s an antidote to pride and celebrity. It’s an antidote to, look, what I did is look what’s been done for me. This view requires us to begin in humility, because if we have to say, okay, there is God, it’s not me.
Well, that’s a very humble position. I’m not the God of my own. I’m not the center of my own decision making universe. Well, this begins and ends. And our savior says, have this. Paul says, have the attitude that Jesus had, who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but instead emptied himself, taking the form of a bondservant. Taking the form. In other words, it’s all humility, start to finish. And as difficult as that is for us to achieve, if we don’t recognize its power in our lives, we’ll never even try to submit.
We’ll never even begin to let go of the things that possess us. So I just want to spend one chapter in these 15 chapters talking about the role that celebrity plays. And by the way, almost every crime you’re going to, well, every crime you’re going to commit is driven by these three. That’s a different chapter. But these three prideful motives, it’s the pursuit of money, the pursuit of sex, or the pursuit of power. Now, that pursuit of power, that’s a huge category of misbehavior, and that’s where celebrity fits all of us. Look, you and I both, would we like more people to listen to what we’re saying? Of course we would.
So, although we might protect ourselves from the pursuit of money and the pursuit of sex with knowing that that can derail us, we dont usually protect ourselves from the pursuit of celebrity. In fact, what we typically do is want to increase that area of our life so we can argue, oh, because I want to reach more people with this divine message. Really? So we will increase the celebrity. Now, heres the danger in it. And this is a different chapter. But theres a danger in this. I have never known anyone of those three motives for misbehavior, and there are only three.
There’s not a fourth motive. There isn’t. And you can discover this secularly working as a homicide detective. Or you can discover this on the pages of scripture because John writes about it in one of his letters. But the point is, these are only three motives out there for stupid. And if you don’t protect yourself from those three motives for stupid, you will eventually do one of them. Now, here’s what I’ve noticed. If you begin to scratch one of those itches, you will eventually scratch the other two, because the other two become available to you on the basis of what you’ve achieved in the third.
So you see this in even christian leaders, right, where they fall for someone. Why? Well, here’s why, in my opinion, is because as a congregation or as your deacon board or your elder board, they’re trying to protect their pastors from the sex and money. But everyone wants their pastor to be known more so they can build a bigger church. And when you increase your celebrity, you only open the door to the other two. So you’re. This is where why I’ve struggled with this, even in writing this book, because as I’m writing this book, if I’m going to heed my own advice, I have to do less of this.
Because it turns out all of this talking about a book you’ve written, is about you trying to amplify your platform, amplify your influence and culture. And that’s. I think there’s a good. By the way, all three of these things have been designed by God for his glory and for our good. We just happen to distract, distort them. So sex, money and power is something that God is giving us in a positive way. This is another chapter in the book. It’s a chapter about a guy who was basically homeless and was killed. And I’m thinking, what are these three motives? What did this killer have to gain from this homeless guy who was so sweet? They called him Santa Claus because he looked like Santa Claus and he was as sweet as Santa Claus.
And what does he offer in terms of sex, money or power that would be worthy of killing him? Well, here’s what happens, is that when we focus on those things that are given to us by God instead of on the God who gave them to us, we’re stopping one level short of our worship. And we all worship. Everyone worships. Whether you’re a believer or not, there is something that you think is of utmost importance, that you dare not take that from me, because that’s the thing that I covet. And this idolatry is what causes us. So in this particular case, this poor guy had slipped over.
He was was recycling stuff. Every day, he would go out, spend the first half of his day picking up trash cans, going through trash cans, picking up recyclables. Then he would take them to the recycling center and get just enough money to go. And he would buy alcohol and food in the afternoon. And that was his day, every day, very, very workmanlike. And he had slipped into an area of our city that another guy who was doing the same thing felt was his alley. Dont be picking trash out of those two cans. And although the amount of money that Santa Claus probably got from that was pennies, dollars, maybe it was enough.
So he confronted this guy. He confronted Santa Claus and said, don’t be doing that anymore at a recycling center. And Santa Claus kind of just blew him off. Well, it turned out in that one moment, he had triggered the two of the three things. Number one, he had disrespected him. So the idea of power, authority, respect, that’s in the third category. Now, I’m upset because you disrespected me in front of my peers. You’re taking pennies or dollars. But because I’ve turned both of these things, I covet them at a high level. I’ve now turned them into idols.
You dare not try to destroy my idols. And that night, he stabbed him to death over virtually nothing. This is the power of idolatry. And by the way, it’s not just people you work and work in homicides. It’s all of us and so on that chapter. What I try to do in every chapter chapter is show you, hey, if this is your struggle, whatever these things are, heres a way for you to address it. And in this chapter, I just ask 15 questions. Like what? You want to know what your idols are? Because we all have them.
Ask these 15 questions, and youll probably identify them. And then once youve identified, and you can start to actually think, okay, look, its something that God has created, rather than the God who created it. We simply have to transfer our worship up one level, just from the level where stopped in God’s creation and back to the creator. And so it’s something that if you do it, you will flourish. Number one, you’ll protect yourself from stupid. And number two, you’ll actually start to pursue the things that contribute to a meaningful life. You do that with thankfulness, because when you say, thank God for what that is and sincerely think about what it is that God has given you, you look at it as is not something that you’ve achieved, then that does move it to the higher level.
And, yeah, there’s this with that right now, again, I’m going to, I’m skipping across a number of different chapters here. But yeah, I think you’re right. I think that part of it is, is that what I’ve discovered, and it’s true of all of us, is the least thankful people are the people who think they have nothing to be thankful for, or the least forgiving people are the people who think they have nothing to be forgiven for. So it does turn out that a proper assessment of who you are, because it’s really easy for me to think, well, everything I’ve got in my life, I achieved that.
Yes, I am the reason for all my success, the reason for everything I’ve ever possessed. Okay, if that’s your view, well, that kind of pride is, it doesn’t lead any more positive. That’s right. Because anytime anyone challenges that, that might not be the case, you’re now offended. And so it turns out that whatever it is we’ve worshipped that becomes the master. The master that you dare not question, the master that I’m now willing to give up tons of time for resources for. And I can say that, you know, I had that early on when I was young.
I had a lot of success with a lot of stuff very easily. And I did think it was what I had done. And I got to say it was such an amazing blessing for God to take that away from me, humble me, you know, and that’s exactly what it was. And I thank God for that. Taking that away from me, one of the biggest blessings of my life. And you’re absolutely, and I think you and I as guys, we are even more prone to this because, and this is a different, this is chapter two of the book.
It’s an identity issue for us. I mean, a lot of it is, is that I don’t have my, as a Christian, I ought to have my identity in Christ. But, but the way we form identity, and I covered this in the book, we don’t typically form it that way. What we typically do instead is we form it as mental in our achievements, in what it is weve achieved. So if I asked, who are you, David well, youre going to say Im the host of the show. If you said, who are you, Jim well, im a cold case detective.
Is that who I am? Look, I havent been in a dateline episode in three years. At some point you need to say, who are you really, Jim? And this struggle of identity is so key to how we function in the world. Because identity really exposes our forms of worship. Because I guarantee, as men, we typically form our worship based on what we do. Identity, when you study it in the surveys and the research on this, it’s inseparable from value and purpose. And unfortunately, a lot of us form our identity based in reverse. In other words, we ask the question, where am I valuable? What am I good at? What do I have purpose in? That’s who I am, rather than say, well, no, who am I? I want to form my value and purpose based on my identity first, not my identity based on my value and purpose.
Because that’s the problem. Because there’s nothing but pride that comes out of forming your identity based on what you’re good at. Because it’s about what you’re good at. Yes. And it’s the biggest. One single move that leads to contentment is to reform your identity not based on what you can achieve, but based on what you receive from a holy God. That is amazing. When you’re talking about that, you say, how do you define yourself? Is it the show that you have? Is it the book that you’ve written? Is it the career that you have? It makes me think back to the austrian empire when they would have their emperors die.
They had these big, elaborate funerals, and they would take them to this amazing crypt. Actually, I’ve been there with my family to see this thing, and it truly is amazing. As they bring the body into the crypto, they would knock, and the person inside would say, who goes there? And they would give all of the big political titles. You know, he’s an empire emperor of this and the king of that and all the rest of the stuff. I don’t know him. And then they would knock again, and they say, who is it? And he would give family relationships.
Right. That he has. I don’t know him. And then he’d knock a third time, and it would say. And he’d say, a humble sinner, Franz Josef. I know him. Enter. You know, that’s kind of an interesting thing. Awesome. Yeah, that’s an awesome. Just a word picture of what we’re talking about here. No, this is something that is. And I don’t know how much time we have on this, but let me just say I’ve got a friend named Joe Martin who’s a doctor, who is a philosopher and a theologian. We got plenty of time, by the way.
Okay, good. He says that men are all about the Asians. When we have conversations, it’s all about the Asians. And I think it does expose how we form identity. So, for example, he would say, when we meet another guy, we shake hands and we say, what do you do? The first nation is occupation, okay? That’s the firstation. And when we’re not really asking, what do you do? We are, because of how we form identity as men. We’re asking, who are you now? As we ask that all identity, remember, is comparative. It’s not about, well, how wealthy are you? It’s how wealthy are you compared to this guy or everybody else? That’s how you know if you’re wealthy, how smart are you compared to others? Sadly, identity is formed by comparing.
And that’s why it’s so prideful, right? Because we have a tendency to say, well, I’m better over here, I’m better over there. So occupations the first nation. And then what we’re measuring, we’re saying, okay, well, I know what that job requires in terms of education, secondation, where now we’re saying, well, he’s better educated, or I’m better educated measuring. Here we are in that first conversation with another guy, and by asking, what is your occupation? We’re starting to measure the other Asians. Second one is education. Third, well, we’re asking, well, I know what that makes. If you’re a surgeon or if you’re an accountant, whatever it is you’re measuring, compensation.
That’s the nextation. So at some point, then you’re asking too, how good are you, you at this? You could be a doctor, but just be a terrible doctor. Reputation is the next ation. What are we doing here? Well, we’re measuring based on, we’re assigning value based on the answers here. And if you’re a guy, if you’re a cop, especially, you could be somebody that’s got nothing more than a high school education and you’re working as a parole officer and you’re not even making that much money. You’ve never tried to do anything other. But if you’re six foot eight and cut like a greek God, you’re still the biggest dog in the room.
Because now it’s about intimidation, the lastation. So I think he’s got a point. It’s very enlightened, I’m sure that for all of us, if you’re not a guy, you’re a woman, and you’re listening to this, then there’s probably some other level of, but be honest. We do this all the time. And because identity is comparative, it really takes, it rears its head, most notably in group gatherings where you’re introducing yourself, because now you’re getting the opportunity to compare. Well, there’s the danger in it, and identity becomes the thing that, sadly, is behind so much of our trauma and struggle.
This is a separate chapter of this book, but I’ll give you an example of this. We would do a lot of work now with. With officers through Billy Graham association in the summer. So we’re getting ready to leave in two weeks here to do the first of six weeks of counseling for marriage resiliency for officers who have been involved in critical incidents. And now they’re struggling in their marriage. And sometimes they don’t even get there before they get a divorce. They get a divorce. They say, we’re not coming. I always say, just hold on. Just try to get through this trip first before you make a decision that big.
But this is the dire straits they’re in. Okay. But I discovered probably three or four years ago that the thing that is the biggest struggle for officers is, especially if you’re injured, is identity. It turns out that if you were to look at all of the trauma in your life, whatever it was, if it was an injury you suffered a divorce, loss of a job, a child being lost, whatever you lost, whatever it was, you suffered in a trauma, you’ll see that at that same point you were suffering the trauma, you had a relatively dramatic shift in you identity.
You thought of yourself as married. Now you’re divorced, you see yourself differently. Identity is simply how you continuously see yourself. The self is at the issue. And every time you suffer a trauma, you suffer an identity shift. So it’s interesting that trauma typically causes an identity shift, but the opposite is also true. An identity shift often causes trauma. So if you wanted to protect yourself from trauma or minimize the kind of trauma you’ll experience, you need to put your identity in something that can’t be shifted, stolen from you, taken from you, bruised in some way, damaged in some way.
And of the three ways that we form identity, inside out, outside in, or topside down, only one of these three ways is stable enough to protect you from shifting. If you’re forming your identity outside in, where you say, like, this is how the ancients did it, you know, this thing outside of me existed before I was ever born. And I’m just going to reach out and grab that and form my identity. So it’s a tribe. That’s the tribe I was raised in. It’s the name of my family name. It’s the profession of my family. We’re all cops, so that’s who I am.
Okay. That’s outside in identity. And all of us do some of that inside out based on my desires, my preferences, even my sexual preferences. I’m going to ask you, outside of me to identify me based on my innate heart’s desires. Okay? That’s inside out identity. Both of those are unstable because at some point your job ends, you’re going to retire. Then who are you then? Or you’re going to get injured or your desires are going to change because your heart is fickle. It’s just the nature of it. Well, then get ready to suffer some trauma in the course.
Now, if you formed your identity topside down where you put it in something that’s transcendent and un unchanging, then youre going to have lows in your life, of course, but theyre going to be not quite as deep because the day before you suffered the injury, you were a child. You were in Christ. That day. The day after you suffered the injury, youre still in Christ. Youre still the same. God sees you the same way. Now, are you going to struggle because youre injured? Of course. But who you are hasnt changed. And it turns out thats the thing that we struggle with the most.
Even in an injury. Its not so much just the pain, the injury. It’s who am I now? And, and that’s why we have to really be serious about our identity formation or we’re going to find ourselves. It’s about human flourishing. It really is. Yeah. And of course, you know, it’s about integrity. And we often think about integrity is how other people perceive us or something, but it really is how you perceive yourself. Do you have that integrity? And you have that integrity if you’re thinking about that from top down, this is so wise. I’m really enjoying, enjoying listening to you talk about this.
And I think about how unique things are right now. As you began talking about that, you said this lure of being famous or a lot of people following you, that all comes as a social media stuff. It truly is amazing to me to see that and how that has transformed younger people. And it is such a transformational thing to think that there is some value in having a bunch of people that you don’t know, you know, following you and everything that you’re focusing on that. It’s amazing. Yeah. That is something that we take for granted, David.
We take it for granted because, yes, we are now in an age. The information age has become the identity age. Why? Because, so how do we start? If you go on our social media platforms, what’s the very first thing, we have a moniker like what is the public name? I’m going to adopt that. I want you to see me as. Yes. Second, we’re going to put a bio now. We’re going to list a series of priorities, identity priorities, in the bio. So all of this, then we’re going to spend the next how many years on social media posting? Only in a way that amplifies the way I already want you to see me.
That’s right. So I’m not going to reveal something of myself that violates the identity I’ve already established. And even if I’m not even thinking about it, my posts always expose who I am. And there were times in generations prior where you didn’t know who people were and the way you know who they are now. Having access to everything we think gives people complete access to who we really are. And I think we know that if we’re a public figure and so we’re careful. You know, I never post anything about my family on social media media. I stay pretty focused in that area of what it is I’m trying to communicate related to the gospel, and I just stay focused on that.
Now, that gives people a view of me that’s not actually true. It’s the view that I’m crafting for them. We have to be aware of that. But everyone does that. I see people, I follow who you think all they do is eat. But it’s really. That’s not just that we are in some way, forming and sharing our identity. It’s that we are also revealing our idols. We’re revealing our priorities. We’re revealing the stuff that we think is so consequential, so important that we are willing to proclaim it. That’s one of the ways you can see what your idols are.
Ask yourself, look at your social media streams. If I want to know what your idols are, I can figure it out. If you’ve got a social media platform, right? That’s right. Yeah. We got a full lifelog that is up there. Yeah. You know, it’s such a shallow things we’re talking about with social media. It’s there so that, you know, you can glorify yourself. Isn’t it interesting that in the last days, people become such lovers of self that we’ve never had those tools to never have the tools to magnify. Exactly. Level. Yeah. And I think at some point we are going to have.
We’re going to see that this is not beneficial to our well being, and we’re going to voluntarily pull back a little bit, or we’re going to reach a point in our lives where we’re going to burn out on it and we’re going to pull. So you might be more active on social media at some point in your life than you are later, but I’m also trying to be very careful not to be the old guy who’s just shaking his fist at the moon. Right? Because I use social media as much as anybody else. But I do want us to be very practical about it.
Like, look, if we’re trying to protect ourselves from what causes us to do bad things, we have to have a very honest assessment of who we are. Are we by. And this is a different chapter in the book, but are we by nature innocent born innocent born virtuous? And we are corrupted by our families, by our environments, by the systems that are in place, even from government systems? Is that who we are? Or is the flip truth that we are by nature fallen and depraved enough that no matter what system you put us in, we’ll find a way to corrupt it, even religious systems.
Which of those two things is true? We need to figure that out. Because if the second is true, which has always been the claim of the christian worldview that we are by nature fallen, well, now we can explain certain aspects of what happens in culture, and we can put our resources in the the right direction. Look, Luther, put it this way. We are so inwardly focused that we can take even things that are good and corrupt them and do them for selfish. You can even behave uber morally, but you’re doing it for selfish reasons. Even our efforts to do something godly are entirely depraved and selfish is what his claim is.
This is what you find also in the modern studies about altruism, people are trying to figure out, how could it be that someone who could be a Pulitzer Prize winner can also kill his spouse or her spouse? How could that be? How could it be that there’s somebody who, for the last 30 years, has been an exemplar in our community? The deacon at the church, the doctor who delivered my babies. Yet 30 years ago, he killed his wife? How could that be? There’s no way he could be that duplicit, is there? This enigma of man has to be sorted out.
Now, what I see in the studies is that, yes, we. We do have good examples of the altruism of humans. Humans are capable of great altruism. They are until it doesn’t serve them personally. So, in other words, I’m usually. The studies show that humans are usually pretty generous until resources get tight. Then we start hoarding toilet paper. Well, why are we doing that? Because we are at our base, nature, self serving. And even when we are doing good for others, it serves us in some way. That’s why we’re doing it. We want to be seen a certain way.
Very seldom do you see people who, you know, do good things who aren’t proclaiming to you that they do good things. That’s how you know they’re doing good things. Well, it’s because that’s, that proclamation is what they’re really after. Yeah, okay, that’s the trick. If that’s the case, then now we can make a proper assessment of our own condition. Number one, it causes me to know that I am not trying trustworthy, that I am no different. Number, it leveled the field for me. So I never went into an interview. Once I had this realization, I never went into an interview and thought I was somehow better than the guy I was interviewing.
No, I knew that we’re all the same person and but for the grace of God, my buttons haven’t been pushed the way that this poor guy’s buttons have been pushed. Now, look, this is not to try to elevate people who do bad behavior. I’m a justice guy, so we’re going to take care of this. But I recognize that I am just like him. We are all just like him. When you watch an episode of Dateline, I’m hoping you’re not sitting there going, yeah, what an idiot. I hope you watch it with a certain amount of introspection and you’re thinking, oh, that could easily have been me.
Because that is where humility begins. It begins when you realize the proper role. By the way, if you know the fallen nature of humans, if you know that’s really true, well, that also changes the way you establish systems. This is why our country was built in a way that had the kinds of checks and balances between the three arms of the federal government. Why is that there? Because the people who formed it knew. You can’t trust people. You can’t trust humans. We are by nature fallen if we don’t have a way to check and balance each other, if we don’t have a community.
Basically, this is why the christian worldview has not lived a nice isolation. Because this is why marriage is so. This is another chapter of the book, why marriage is so important. Because I have close enough to another human that I have given her permission to tell me where I’m wrong. I’ve given her permission to help shape me toward what it is God wants for me. And if you’re not in a relationship with somebody who you know well enough to have given them permission to tell you what an idiot you are, right, right now, and you don’t have true friends and you don’t have the kind of relationship that’ll urge you towards something better.
So it turns out that those are other things that sociologists have discovered. It was a chapter in here about true friendship. Well, why? Because I’ve worked so many cases where people were killed by somebody they thought was their true friend. Well, so what is the nature of quality relationships? What do we, what you need to kind of dig into that because it turns out out that there are some relationships that if youre listening, that youre holding right now that are hurting you, that are detrimental to your well being. And that might at some point, by the way, likely, if Im the first thing Im going to do, if Im working your homicide is Im going to look back at all your relationships because the chances are that its somebody you knew really well who killed you.
And in the end, we have to ask the question, what am I doing wrong that Im hanging out with somebody who I have not in some way vetted better? You know? So I think a lot of this is important for us as christians to say, yeah, by the way, the scripture has an antidote for that. The christians got great guidance for that. We just haven’t been paying attention in this generation, it seems. Yeah. You have a statement. Many crime stories are centered around poor relationships, not having a relationship or having a relationship that’s going to, I guess goad you into that, right? Some way.
Yeah. I mean, this is, so if you’re looking at what causes, and we’ve got enough time, I think here to cover this. If you look at what is causing, what really describes relationships that will cause you to flourish. It turns out that studies show this, one of the longest studies ever done on human happiness, looked like 60 year study that was done and really revealed that it is your relationships there at the key, the core of what causes you to feel content, to be happy, to have satisfied life, satisfying life, not just any kind of relationship.
It turns out it’s the kind of deep relationships that you cannot have with hundreds of people on social media. So there’s three things, three things that lead to flourishing in your relationships. Here they are. First, you need deep, committed relationships with people. You’ve given permission to be like a brother to say, hey, you know what, dude, you’re off the rails here. And that has to be with a small number, number of people. You can’t have those kinds of deep committed relationships because they require a certain amount of vulnerability and a certain amount of time. So if you’re somebody who says, I know lots of people, I got lots of friends, well, they’re probably not then these kinds of friends, you need to have a small number of deeply committed relationships with third piece, virtuous people.
Now here’s the reason why. I’ve met lots of folks who are deeply connected to others who are not virtuous, and they’re basically part of their crime family. And so you can have deep connected relationships that lead you astray because there’s no virtue. Now here’s the tricky question is what do we call virtuous? Who gets to decide? So there’s a code of ethics amongst gangsters. Is that what is virtuous? What they say is because they would say, hey, if you offend us, we’re going to come over there and kill you. That’s just the code. You knew better before you did that.
You should have known that was coming because you know that’s what you’re going to get. And so who just gets to decide what is righteous, right or wrong? Virtuous? Who gets to decide that? Is it a group of people or is it a single individual? Or is there something that transcends all of us, that it overarches all communities? So it turns out that virtue is something that does require a transcendent, unchanging, overarching virtue giver the authority that we would actually say virtue is grounded in. Because if we say it’s grounded in groups, then get ready for all kinds of stupid.
And we’re already seeing this because what’s virtuous to, even politically, what’s virtuous to one side or the other is very different. Then we’re arguing as if there’s no transcendent, overarching virtue. So this is one of those areas, your relationships, that does benefit from a world worldview in which you can ground virtue objectively. There’s a couple of places where that happens in this book, but this is one that’s very important because we can say, you tell your kids all the time but don’t be handled, these are bad people. Who gets to decide they’re bad? This is now suddenly caught is going to have to cause us to think about how do we ground good and bad? How do we ground righteousness? And if you’re going to ground it in just the opinion of people, well, that’s every case I work point, you have to be wiser than that.
And that’s why I think it’s important for us to adopt the one worldview grounded in humility that provides you with an objective, transcendent source for virtue. That is such great wisdom. I’m really looking forward to reading this book. And of course, it’s just come out, but it is available now, right? Yes, it’s available now, and I appreciate it. You can learn more@thetruthandtruecrime.com. comma, thetruthandtruecrime.com dot. And because I so sensitive to the idea that this should not be about us just building a platform and trying to sell something, what we do with that website, you’ll see there’s a ton of free stuff that comes with a purchase.
We simply wanted to try to level that a little bit so that you don’t feel like this is about spending money on a book. I really want to advance the causes that are in the book, and that’s the challenge, of course. Excellent, excellent book. Again, it is the truth in true crime that’s in not and the truth in true crime. And I just. Before you go, I know you got to go. This message is from guard Goldsmith on rock Finney says thank you both. Cold case Christianity is excellent. And in the conversation today, I’m reminded that the trap that even catches people who try to spread freedom messages or biblical messages, it seems that one must beware of commoditizing oneself.
Difficult to promote one’s work, even freedom or biblical work, without that promotion becoming self promoting rather than praising God. That’s absolutely so good. So good. Yeah. That’s a great observation. He’s written me before. He loved colcase Christianity, which he got the first time I interviewed you. But I’m really looking forward to the truth and true crime. And again, there’s a website, thetruth and trucrime.com dot. Thank you much. Thank you so much for joining us, sir. Excellent stuff and such wisdom. It truly is amazing. Looking forward to reading it myself. Myself. Thank you. Well, I’m indebted to you.
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