➡ The text discusses the issue of biological males participating in girls’ sports, arguing that it’s unfair and discriminatory towards female athletes. It also raises concerns about privacy and safety in locker rooms. The speaker mentions widespread support from the public against this policy, and mentions a lawsuit filed to address the issue. The text ends with a call for common sense and fairness in sports and school policies.

➡ The speaker praises a woman named Laurel Libby for her courage and conviction, suggesting she would make a great U.S. ambassador to the U.N. for women’s issues. Libby encourages people who disagree with the “woke agenda” to speak up and not back down. She invites people to follow her work in Maine through her Facebook page and other platforms. The speaker wishes her luck with her lawsuit and thanks her for her efforts to uphold women’s rights and promote a reality based on science and biological facts.

Chris. I’m Chris Farrell and this is On Watch. Welcome to On Watch everybody, the Jewish Watch podcast where we go behind the headlines to cover news and information that the old legacy media really doesn’t want you to know about. We try to recover lost history and explain the inexplicable. Today we truly have something that is inexplicable to plumb the depths of and to try to try to work through. We’re very fortunate today to have Laurel Libby a Republican member of the main state House or House of representatives, representing District 90. Laurel has the unenviable experience of having been censured by the illustrious members of the Maine House of Representatives and, and she’s going to tell us why.

Welcome to On Watch, Laurel. Thank you so much for having me. It’s a pleasure. We appreciate you taking time to talk to us. You’ve made a statement or I guess took a position that your colleagues in Maine in the state legislature just found totally unacceptable. And your position is obviously so radical, so unbelievable that they decided to censure you. What in the world did you do to get the ire and wrath of your legislative colleagues? Really tremendously shocking. I made a post with a picture stating biology, stating biological facts that a biological male had won a girls pole vault state championship.

And after I made that post, instead of having a conversation around the policy, which is what needs to happen in Maine, as our policy is unacceptable, instead the Democrat majority censured me. They’ve muzzled me, said I cannot vote and I cannot speak on the House floor regarding legislation until I apologize. It sounds more like you’re in Bolshevik Russia or a Stalinist phony Soviet Congress rather than an actual real legislature of one of the states of the United States. Those tactics are, well, I mean it’s an overused term, but they’re really, they’re Orwellian. You can’t vote and you can’t speak until you apologize.

That is the declaration of the speaker of the House, Ryan Fecto here in Maine. It was a party line vote and their stance is that this post was so objectionable that yes, until I apologize, I will not be able to fulfill my duties as a sitting legislator elected by my district to represent them. And it is truly Orwellian. I don’t think that term has been over overused in the month plus since then. It should shock us that by a simple majority vote a duly elected legislator could be silenced and her constituents, 9,000 of them, not have representation.

So your Democrat colleagues, they’re suffering from this very peculiar Sort of mind virus where they deny the scientific fact of XY and XX chromosomal, scientifically validated composition that makes up men and women. I mean, it simply is. And no matter how many times you say you’re a man, that’s not true. And no matter how many times I would say that I’m a woman, it simply is not true. Now you can sort of act out and you can have these various dysphorias, and there’s people that are struggling with this. I’m not making fun of it, I’m not belittling it.

I think there is a legitimate sort of disordered behavior and an emotional or psychological condition that people need to come to grips with. And there’s probably a variety of different ways to do that. And I’m certainly not qualified to, to spell that out, but I do know that there are people who work through this in some way via counseling and other methods. But that doesn’t deny the reality, the scientific reality of there being men and women, period. Do your colleagues in the hallway or in the cloakroom, is there any kind of frank conversation with you or are you just shunned? My Democrat colleagues that I have talked with, they are absolutely dug in on this.

I am shunned. And frankly, I’m a Republican who crosses party lines. I vote with Democrats on privacy and other issues when it is common sense. And when the policy position makes sense, I cross party lines and I vote with the Democrats. And that’s common knowledge. And so I have relationship with some of these Democrat colleagues, and most of them no longer talk with me since I made this post. They are so dug in on defending this biological unreality that they can’t even talk about it. Now, who? I mean, how do they benefit? Why is this the Hill to dig in and die on? Why is this the most important issue for Democrats to just refute science and reality and insist.

And frankly speaking, this is really a tiny, tiny, sort of boutique gender ideology issue. This is not the civil rights fight of a generation. This is a very narrow, very particular argument to fight. And so why dig in on this? Why is this so important? I wish I understood why they’re digging in on it. I honestly can’t answer that question, except to say that they’ve backed themselves into a corner. And I think to come back from that would require at least some level of humility and an acknowledgement that they were wrong in this stance. And so I don’t see that happening.

I think everyone knows about the conflict between our governor, Governor Mills, And President Trump at this point, where our state doubled down and to back off from that would be embarrassing. Right? And so it doesn’t matter that over 60% of Mainers do not support biological males participating in girls sports. They have continued to double down on allowing biological males to participate, even in the face of losing significant federal funding and knowing that Maine people don’t support their stance. So I can’t explain it. I can tell you, you know, I have heard from members of the at least LGB community in my district saying thank you for defending biological reality.

Keep up the fight. Right? And so they don’t have full agreement across the board on this and are way out over their skis, but continue in this indefensible position. It’s also, I think, viciously demeaning to women. I mean, if you take this position, you’re taking certainly a lot of girls, young women, but certainly women of all ages. But in the school context, whether it’s elementary school, high school, universities, younger women, and I mean, there’s instances, there’s reports of actual physical jeopardy, you know, where 6 foot 2, 200 pound male is competing in a physical way against, you know, I don’t know, a 5 foot 2 female.

Just the odds, just size, weight, muscle mass, strength, radically different. But it seeks to really make women invisible, to zero out. It zeros out accomplishment and achievement. It zeros out opportunity. How do they defend that? How can they be so rabidly anti woman? And that’s exactly what it is. It’s an anti woman position. When you look back at history, even history in athletics, about 50 years ago, the first woman ran the Boston Marathon and she ran it when she wasn’t allowed to. Women were not allowed to run the marathon. And so as she ran the marathon, the race director actually tried to physically forcibly remove her from the course, and her husband and others had to defend her physically and help her stay on the course.

And now, 50 years later, we are telling two girls who placed second to a biological male in the pole vault state championship here in Maine that they don’t matter because there is a boy, a young man who competed last June and prior as a male and now has decided to compete in the female category. And they don’t matter because he should be allowed to participate as a female, win the state championship and displace them from their rightful first place. It is mind boggling. And this goes also to scholarships, right? There’s people, there are young ladies who are training and just, you know, fighting like hell to be in a position where they’d be recruited by various universities and colleges to play any number of sports for those universities and colleges.

And this skews that completely. And my daughter, who’s now grown, married, children of her own, but when she was a kid, she was a junior Olympian swimmer and had done very well, all kinds of opportunities because of that, played water polo in university, she had a tremendous set of opportunities. But if there was some guy, and she’s no Wilting Daisy by any stretch of the imagination, she’s very strong, very tough. But if there’s some guy in the pool with her who is 30% larger, 50% greater lung capacity and muscle mass, how in the world does anybody think that’s fair, how that’s evenhanded again, does anybody have any data? Does anybody, anybody on the other side come back to you and say, well, listen, here’s where you’re wrong, and they give you some kind of facts, you know, scientific studies, journal articles.

Can anyone substantiate this to argue against you? What I hear from the other side is it’s not very many. So there’s not very many biological males participating in girls sports, so we should allow it. And so, no, that’s not statistics. But right now, here in Maine, there are two. Are two biological males. There are others who have participated in girls sports prior. I’m sure more to come. But at this moment, in indoor track and Nordic skiing this winter, there were two biological males participating in girls sports, both of them displacing females from the podium. Both of them, One of them, sorry, previously displaced females from the podium in cross country.

So this is ongoing. What I hear from the left, the ultra progressive left is it’s only a couple. Well, you know what? That’s a couple young women. How many young women is acceptable to discriminate against how many main women and girls? What’s the acceptable Number? Is it 2? Is it 5? Is it 10? What’s an acceptable level of discrimination? Right, right. On this policy, I would say zero. And as far as numbers go, there are a lot of numbers that say this is a much bigger problem than these extremists would like to acknowledge. For example, the UN has numbers from, I believe last year that indicate that there are 900 medals and podiums that have been taken from athletes across the globe in the last few years in 27 or 29 different sports.

So, no, this is not a small problem. It’s not an athlete here and there. This is a growing issue that we need to acknowledge and root out and ensure that our girls have A fair, safe and level playing field. And even beyond sort of the podium and metal question, there’s the much more sort of mundane and routine situation of just locker room and bath, you know, shower room, locker area, bathroom privacy, safety type issues. I mean, my guess is that high school girls really don’t want some dude in the same locker room, you know, changing, showering with them.

It’s just, for lack of a better term, I’m not going to be very technically accurate here. It’s just freaky, right? It’s a creepy thing. You got a 16 year old girl, some 18 year old guy changing, pretending he’s a girl. I mean it’s just weird, right? It’s a safety issue, it’s a privacy issue. Isn’t absolutely is the only experience I can liken it to is I was a cross country and track athlete in college, a very mediocre one, but had to change in the locker room and I barely wanted to change in front of my female peers, let alone if there had been a male in the locker room.

And I recently heard a story of a young woman here in Maine. She’s in her senior year of college and since all of this has broken, she’s spoken up and she told the story of having to change in a locker room with a boy in the locker room pretending to be a girl in seventh grade. I cannot fathom. I have kids that have been in seventh grade and it is appalling and shocking to me that those, the folks who are in power in our state and across the country are insisting on policies that put our children, our girls at not just safety risk, but also the embarrassment in the position of not knowing what to do because those in power are putting this policy in place.

So what do you do against that? I believe outside of Chicago recently, there’s a really horrific instance, and you’re probably familiar with it, of girls being forced to change. The teachers or administrators got involved and forced a locker room situation where the guy was in there and they made the girls change. I mean that’s a level, that’s child abuse, that, that’s endangerment in my opinion. And I mean this is people taking it to such a bizarre extreme that they’re really harming others. This is not just, oh, I don’t like your opinion, we disagree. There’s real harm being inflicted here.

And what are these girls to do when this is the authorities in their life telling them this? Right. It’s an incredibly powerless to be in. Right. The people who are supposed to be protecting you are the ones inflicting harm. And yes, I agree with you inflicting abuse in this scenario. And I know a state rep in Illinois, this child’s state rep is a different one from my friend and has essentially called her a liar. And so it’s, it’s remarkable you have people who are finally willing to speak up. Right. And talk about the atrocious things that are happening, whether we’re talking about Chicago or Maine or anywhere in between, and they’re being called out, being called liars, being told we don’t believe you because it’s an issue we’re on the other side of.

It is appalling. And it does explain why more people don’t speak up and are reluctant to speak up because of the treatment that they anticipate if they do. Well, I anticipate that it’ll be a very cold day in hell before you apologize to your Democratic colleagues there in Maine. That is very accurate and I congratulate you and I thank you for sticking to your guns on that because there’s a lot of other politicians who would. Whichever way the wind blows, they’ll jump on board. So I congratulate you for doing that. But let’s, let’s take it a little step further.

So who’s on your side? Who says Laurel Libby’s got guts and she’s brave and strong and we should support her? Is there anybody doing that? Absolutely. I can tell you, hands down, I have heard from, I think at this point, thousands of Mainers who not just appreciate the stance, are urging me to keep to it. And while it already was going to be a cold day in hell before, I apologize, certainly I’ve heard enough urging, stay the course, fight, fight, fight, continue that. It will be a cold day. And so Maine people, huge support. Incredible. I don’t hear much from the Republican Party, unfortunately, in our state.

My colleagues in the House did all vote against the censure. But I would say the strongest support that I have felt has been from Maine people who have proven to me that they absolutely do not support this absurd policy of allowing biological males to participate in girls sports. And interestingly to me, I even hear from liberals who, they may not appreciate the way I went about my post, but they do not believe I should be censured. And they also agree that biological males have no place in girls sports. Any, I don’t know, any national endorsement or encouragement, not just necessarily from political leaders, but even from so called, I hate using the term, but influencers, people who have the ear of others or get Notice, I just don’t think from my perspective, I don’t want you hanging out there in the breeze by yourself.

You know what I mean? You people should rally around what you did and just support objective scientific reality and somebody who has the guts to say it. And you shouldn’t just be sort of this one off unusual case. That’s a historical footnote. You should not be a footnote. No, I’ve learned in the last month and a half for sure that there’s a lot of folks out there fighting this battle and have felt the encouragement from many of them, including Riley Gaines and others, and so appreciate that. And I can tell you as far as across the country, I particularly have heard from a coalition of legislators in Montana.

I think I’ve heard from just about the whole Republican caucus out there encouraging me to stay the course. I’ve heard from other legislators across the country. I’ve also heard from a tremendous number of Californians, which is interesting considering the vote that just happened in that state today. But I’ve heard from so many Californians, I’ve kind of given them their own category. And the phone calls or voicemails and emails all start like this. Hi, I’m from California, I’m a Democrat and I totally agree with you. It’s some version of that. Californians, and particularly California Democrats have got their own special place.

I’ve heard from so, so many of them. That’s very good to hear. I’m hoping that while your governor locks horns with President Trump, President Trump should probably come out and give you an endorsement as well for just common sense, realistic science, fact based, you know, you need endorsement and encouragement. Is there any sort of political solution for you or is this, you’ve now, you know, been dropped down the memory hole. You’re in a political never, never land forever. Or is there some effort to without you apologizing? Without, is there some way to rehabilitate you and bring you back into the active political world? Well, absolutely.

Two things that I would reference there. One is that certainly while I haven’t talked directly with the Trump administration, felt their support, as we’ve seen, federal action is starting to take place here in Maine. There are investigations that are ongoing into biological males participating in girls sports in Maine. And we need the Democrats in Maine to back down and do the common sense thing because otherwise Maine students are going to be losing significant funding that we can’t afford to lose. And then as far as remedy, I have filed suit and our hearing with the district court judge is on Friday of this Week.

So very much looking forward to our day in court with the federal district court and getting that ball rolling, because my constituents need remedy. I have 9,000 constituents without a voice and without a vote. And that is. That’s absolutely unacceptable to me. I agree with you 100%. If I were somebody in the Trump administration, within the structure of the United Nations, I believe that There is a U.S. ambassador to the United nations that deals specifically with issues pertaining to women and girls. It’s like a women’s interest because there’s a number of UN Agencies dealing with that.

And if I were in the Trump administration, you’d be the next U.S. ambassador to the U.N. for that, that portfolio, because you’ve earned it. Right? You’ve got the courage of your convictions, and you’re obviously very talented and bright and accomplished, and you’d be a great representative for us. Well, I certainly appreciate your endorsement. I’m going to give you the final word. People that are watching us or listening to us on our different platforms that we go out on, we reach a ton of people that via this podcast thanks to the great support of people who like Judicial Watch.

What is your message for the average citizen who feels either bewildered or frustrated? And what can they do to follow you? And what can they do to kind of advance your position on this? You know, I think so often those of us with common sense feel like we’re in the minority. And really the minority is this very loud group of folks who are talking nonsense and advancing a woke agenda that we don’t agree with. The quieter majority needs to speak up. And so I have certainly seen over the last month and a half, many folks encouraged to speak up.

And that’s yet another reason that I will not back down from my position. We need to stand and take a stand and then not be moved. So folks can follow what’s going on in Maine at my Facebook page, Representative Laurel Libby. They can also find me on X, formerly known as Twitter, and also@standwithloral.com and I really appreciate you having me on today and highlighting what’s going on in Maine and across the country as we seek to protect our girls and ensure a fair, safe and level playing field and ensure that women’s rights are upheld after the many years of fighting that women have had to get to where we are today.

Laurel Libby, you’re a brave, smart lady and the people of Maine are lucky to have you. And I wish you all the best going forward with your lawsuit and finally dragging Maine back into reality, one that’s based on science and biological facts. Thank you for your time joining us today. Thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure. I’m Chris Farrell on.
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