Um, I also saw that other story that you had about… We have Attorney General. It goes after the… Yeah. Yeah. There’s more sheriffs than I thought at this time that are actually coming out against Trump’s deportation plan. And they don’t want to participate. And it’s more than I thought, even though I still think it’s minimal. But this is the thing. We’ve had sheriffs helping for a long time with deportation. Sheriffs can cross-deputize with any federal agent they want. Do I recommend that? No. U.S. Customs came to my office when I was sheriff and asked to cross-deputize.

I said no. I said, whatever you need from me, you let us know, and we’ll help whenever we can. But I refused to cross-deputize U.S. Customs. First of all, the border is 120 miles away from where I live, from where I was sheriff. If you go to the southern part of the county, it’s maybe 95 miles, okay? So I didn’t see any need. But now we have 287-G, which was a program that locals, chiefs of police and sheriffs, could participate with turning people who were arrested, people they had trouble with, and turn them over to ICE.

Okay? Fine. During the Biden administration, it was stopped. And there were still some sheriffs who even did it then. And there’s still some sheriffs doing it now from who were sheriffs during the Biden administration who were still doing it. There’s only four in Arizona out of the 15. So why they didn’t get after it more? I’m not sure I understand why. But I do know why two or three of the Democrat sheriffs in Arizona did. They were Democrat hacks. And that’s all they cared about. They didn’t care about national security. They didn’t care about dropping the crime in their own communities.

They cared about supporting the Democrat Party. Okay? I get that. Do I agree with it? Hell no. But that’s the way it goes. So now we have the attorney general of Indiana who’s suing a couple of sheriffs there who are refusing to cooperate with the deportation effort of the new administration. I will say this. It’s up to the sheriff how he enforces the law, or whether he enforces it at all. You can’t make a law saying, here’s the law, and sheriff, you shall enforce this. Folks, if the sheriff doesn’t enforce the laws that the people in his community want him to enforce, he’s probably not going to stay sheriff very long.

And they can handle it. We do not need other politicians or other bureaucrats or other elected officials trying to control what the sheriff can and cannot do. He doesn’t report to the governor. He doesn’t report to anyone else except the people in his community. If the sheriff doesn’t want to help with deportation, then he lives with the consequences. Do I believe that a sheriff who willfully hides an illegal alien from the federal authorities that he could be investigated and arrested for that? Yes, I do. I do. Would that happen very often? No. But it’s up to the sheriff.

Is there a law that the sheriff, if he sees someone running a stop sign, that he has to write them a ticket? Or what kind of enforcement methodology he will apply to resolving that issue with the traffic violation? No, there is not. And if there was, we’d all find a way around it, because it’s called police discretion. And how I enforce the law is up to me. And if there’s a murder, and if the sheriff refuses to investigate a murder, or he writes it off as a suicide, can he be arrested for that? Can he be forced to do something about that? No, he cannot.

That’s up to the people who hire and appoint the sheriff in that community. What’s really going on here is that the sheriffs, the past 10, 15 years, have caught on to their power and their independence, and that they know and understand, in a large part because of the work that we have done, we have made the term constitutional sheriff a household term now. And sheriffs are starting to pay attention, and they have been for the last 15 years. And they go, oh, yeah, well, I don’t report to anyone else. And just like Kelly Martinez in San Diego, the sheriff, a female sheriff in San Diego, called the Board of Supervisors there, I don’t report to you.

You cannot tell me I can’t help with deportation. You’re not my boss. Folks, that was wonderful. She’s probably a liberal, but she knows her own office. And she knows her own independence and that she answers to the people. Wonderful. Way to go, Sheriff Martinez. I left her a phone call. She didn’t return it. She doesn’t answer to me too, or me either. She doesn’t. So would we love to help? Would we love to help her and many other sheriffs involved in this? Of course, we already have been. Okay? So, folks, we still want you to make sure you get our template from Sheriff Bob Sanger about the posseys and get it to your sheriff.

Just pass it on to email it to him and say, just so you’re aware, this is one posseys that’s worked very well. [tr:trw].

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