And that has not been done across the country. And we were the first group to begin enforcing this law privately, suing privately, to get the states to clean up. And in the last few years, it’s resulted in 5 million names being removed from the rolls. I call it dirty names. They’re dirty election rolls that have been cleaned up. In California and L.A., they removed 1.2 million names thanks to a settlement. In New York, we sued. See, we went in. They sued almost immediately. They’ve since removed almost a million names from the rolls in New York City.

We sued in California. I mean, in Colorado, in Pennsylvania, in North Carolina, Kentucky. They removed 3 quarters of a million names thanks to a settlement and consent decree. And it’s just, in my view, the tip of the iceberg. In Illinois, they’re not removing names. California, the rest of the state is a mess. In Oregon, they virtually removed no names from their rolls as the law requires. And the law requires not much, which is, you know, if you don’t vote in a federal election, they’re supposed to send you a card. And if you don’t respond to the card or vote within two federal election cycles, meaning four or five years, they’re supposed to remove your names.

They can’t be bothered to do that. And dirty election rolls are kind of a way and an inducement and an opportunity for fraudsters because it’s a lot of dirty names under who they could possibly vote. And that’s why federal law requires the states to clean them up. And the Justice Department hasn’t been doing any of this. For years, Judicial Watch was the first one to do this comprehensively. Now, Tom, the dirty – the voter rolls that had these illegal aliens on them are the predicate of how you steal elections. This is why Democrats – because everything around them politically is about illegal aliens.

But what excuse – when you go in and have – and Judicial Watch has to go in and take its resources and sue. What arguments did these states put up and the Democratic Party put up for keeping illegal aliens people obviously not eligible to vote on the voter rolls, sir? Well, there are no reasonable arguments. They fight whether we have the right to sue, and three courts have authorized our cases to go forward just in the last few months in Illinois, California, and Oregon. I mean, I just told you, you know, L.A. County agreed to remove a million names, New York a million names.

They don’t have an argument. We essentially come in and catch them, and they say – we say you haven’t removed the records. What’s the reason? And there is no legal reason, and they settle. Illinois, for instance, they’ve got – let me look at the numbers here for Illinois, because people are going to be – because if there’s one anecdotal thing – and I’m sure you see this – about people who move away, and they still get ballots despite them being moved away for 30 years. In Illinois, they – or actually in California, they’ve got a fifth of its counties removed fewer – few or no registrations under this law.

Nineteen counties failed to report any data regarding registrations removed because of the death of a voter. Illinois informed the feds that 34 counties simply failed to report any data about removals. So what we’re talking about is millions of extra names on the rolls despite our removing 5 million. I’m guessing there’s about 20 million-plus extra names on the rolls right now, and these are people who shouldn’t be on the rolls. And as I say, that’s a pool for fraudsters to draw from. Does it mean they’re all voting illegally? No. Does it mean they’re all fraud – they’re all legal votes? No.

It’s just the opportunity is huge for fraudsters because of this problem. I just want to make sure I got this. You guys have been fighting and using your resources. You have now 5 million names of illegal aliens off the rolls. You’re saying your best estimate, you think there’s another 20 million to go? Probably, yeah. Unbelievable. Now, is Harvey Dillon – That’s the fact that – She’s already some rights to be sure. It’s really incredible. Is Harvey – now, since she’s there, are you guys meeting with her? Is she picking this up as the Justice Department? Because as you know, this is top of mind for a guy named President Trump.

Are they picking up some of the slack there so we don’t have to have Judicial Watch burn through your resources to do this? Well, I’m not aware of any suits they filed to clean up the rolls directly. They started asking questions about the names on the rolls, right? Part of their efforts is to get information about what’s going on, and of course, the left is attacking them for doing that. So they’re way behind. I mean, they’re trying to begin, but as if it’s everything the Justice Department does, it’s really slow. Tom, I know you’re fighting on many fronts.

Can you get us up to speed? What’s the center of gravity of the current top-of-mind issues that you guys deal with every day over at Judicial Watch? Well, on the election thing, the other aspect of it is counting ballots that arrive after Election Day. We were just in the Supreme Court two weeks ago making arguments, and Illinois, they count ballots that arrive for up to two weeks after Election Day. And the courts there said the candidates don’t have the right to sue. So we’re trying to get the Supreme Court to say, yeah, candidates can sue to chop an election from being stolen, which obviously was the big issue in 2020, as you know.

And in California, they count ballots that arrive for up to seven days after election. We found out there that there were two Democrats in the House because of ballots that were counted after Election Day. And if I were in the House, I’d be asking, why is that the case? We should be seating the folks who lost due to this illicit vote counting. Because federal law states, you’ve got to count the ballots on election, or you’ve got to count ballots that arrive by Election Day. We have an Election Day, not an election week, not an election month.

You’ve got 20 states that do that. And these are kind of low – this is low-hanging fruit in terms of ensuring cleaner elections. Make sure the rolls are clean. Don’t count ballots that get there late. I mean, as Trump mentioned it in an executive order, he said it’s like someone showing up three days after Election Day and asking the ballots to be opened – you know, the polls to be opened up again. It’s not the way it’s supposed to work. And then, of course, the other big issue, Steve, is where are the prosecutions. I know there have been some prosecutions, but not on the core issues about the FBI trying to destroy a republic last year.

I don’t know what’s happening. I kind of do know what’s happening. To the degree the Justice Department wants to do anything, it’s hampered by their own internal machinations, the deep state, et cetera. And I keep on saying this, and you and I have talked about this before. The president has got to bypass the Justice Department and the FBI in these investigations of the law fair against them. A, they’re the agencies that did it, so they’re compromised and conflicted. Plus, they’ve got so many bad guys in their midst. They can’t even do it even if they wanted to effectively, efficiently, and really quickly.

And B, he has the authority – or C, whatever, I’m lost track of my letters – he has the authority to appoint a special counsel himself and run it separately from the Justice Department. How many stories do we need to hear about Justice Department prosecutors refusing to prosecute someone who they like, who is an avowed anti-Trumper, simply because they don’t want to do it? Tom, one more time. I want to give your concerns about – because you’ve been the tip of the spear in this on breaking the deep state. Your concerns are, unless a special prosecutor – and President Trump takes that directly to the White House, because he is chief law enforcement officer and chief magistrate, that it’s just that we keep hearing about grand juries.

But as you said, you’re asking the same departments that did this to basically prosecute themselves, and there’s tremendous resistance to this at the working level and at – embedded into the institutional history because they hate President Trump and they hate the magical movement. What would be your pitch to President Trump to get more active and actually designate a special prosecutor? Well, he should appoint a special prosecutor, reports to him – not to the Attorney General, not to the FBI director – staff him with – or her, whoever it may be, with federal law enforcement other than the agencies involved.

And they would have to follow all the rules any other prosecutor would. I mean, they can’t violate civil liberties. They have to follow the grand juries. All those protections are in place, but the question is, who does it, and who makes the call in the end about whether investigations and prosecutions ultimately proceed? It should be the President in consultation with the special prosecutor. And the Attorney General and the FBI, they have a whole lot of other issues to care about, and to be fair to them, there’s a lot else going on. And you see this internally, where the Justice Department is still protecting people.

If you don’t like Trump, you get special protections from the Justice Department as they try to derail investigations and prosecutions. And the judge is obviously – he can’t control directly, but you’re seeing it already. You had it out with Comey and Tish James. They’re already combining their vindictive prosecution motion into one issue, which is just crazy. They’re two separate cases. So he needs to get the best of the best working for him directly, because once they’re put into the Justice Department, there’s a whole other culture and politics that go on that, in my way of thinking, is going to prevent full justice from being done.

And that’s all we want is justice. And I fear, unless something dramatically changes shortly, it’s too late. Tom Fenton, you are laboring 24 hours a day, seven days a week, as the People’s Justice Department. Where do people go for all your content? You’re putting up stuff on Instagram and your social media, sir. Yeah, we’re on Twitter at Tom Fenton, or X, I guess, I’m not supposed to call it. We’re on YouTube, Rumble, Facebook, everywhere. The Judicial Watch is one of the most widely supported grassroots groups in the country. Certainly on the conservative side of the aisle.

And we’re at judicialwatch.org. There’s simply no one doing what we’re doing in terms of the litigation and the investigation. And dare I say it, the basic education, because most of D.C. is based on allowing or hoping that Americans are kept ignorant of what the way the Constitution requires our country be run. And I just call them as I see them. The president’s the chief executive. He’s the chief magistrate. He should be running the prosecutions. We’ve got election laws, and they should be followed and enforced. Everything else is a distraction to stop the Constitution and the rule of law from being implemented in a way that preserves and protects the republic.

We’ve got to get back to the basics. When you go over to – and I want everybody to go over to checkout that’s not a member who hasn’t donated, or actually start by reading what they’re doing over to judicialwatch. I’m going to give you the highest recommendation possible in the war room. After my mom died in the early 90s, I would try to, whether I was on the West Coast or anywhere, spend as many weekends back in my hometown of Richmond with my dad. And he died at over 100 years old a couple of years ago.

Every time I showed up late on a Friday night or very early on a Saturday morning, we had a cup of coffee and started talking and catching up. He would pull out on his kitchen table, which he always had a stack of things he was working on, his judicialwatch newsletter. And he would go through page by page and drill me on what was going on. And he said every time that the donation – he was not a wealthy guy, but the donation he would give to different organizations, he would say, the best bang for my buck I get is Tom Fitton.

Tom, there’s not a higher – yeah, he was the biggest fan. I mean, just incredible. Yeah, it’s a great newsletter. It goes out to 700,000 people. People need to get it. It’s great. And it’s incredible. So detailed. I mean, he was drilling me, and I’d go, hey, let me get back to you on that one. I was looking for a commercial break. I remember trying to know more about the cases than I do. That’s the war room posse. No, that’s the war room posse. I was looking for a commercial break while he was drilling me. Tom Fitton, love you, brother.

Keep fighting. Thank you. [tr:trw].

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