➡ In this episode of Nino’s Corner TV, the host chats with country music star John Rich about various topics. They discuss the unpredictability of the market and the importance of diversifying wealth, with a mention of Noble Gold, a company that helps with wealth diversification. The conversation then shifts to the entertainment world, focusing on Kanye West’s controversial actions and his impact on his followers. They end by discussing the dangers of false prophets in the religious and entertainment sectors.
➡ The speaker discusses their skepticism towards mega churches and their focus on prosperity. They also talk about their successful career as a songwriter and record producer, having written over 2,000 songs and produced records that have sold around 30 million copies. They express their independence in the music industry, releasing songs without a record label, and discuss the politics of award shows and the music industry’s dislike for artists who bypass traditional routes. The speaker also comments on the perceived spiteful actions of record labels and the disconnect between them and the fans of country music.
➡ The speaker discusses the controversy surrounding the awarding of a country music Grammy to Beyonce, suggesting it was done out of spite against country music fans who are perceived to have voted for Donald Trump. The speaker believes that Lainey Wilson, a popular country music artist, should have won the award instead. The speaker also criticizes Garth Brooks for his liberal political views and actions, which they believe run counter to the views of his fan base. The speaker predicts that country music fans may boycott future Grammy shows in response to these perceived slights.
➡ The speaker discusses the difference between singers and artists in the music industry, emphasizing that artists maintain their integrity and uniqueness, regardless of trends. They mention that artists like Willie Nelson and Linda Ronstadt are unique and true to themselves, which makes them memorable. The speaker also shares their admiration for artists who pour their soul into their music, such as Kenny Rogers and Elvis. They conclude by sharing a story about Meatloaf, who used to hypnotize his audience by moving across the stage before performing.
➡ The speaker discusses the importance of integrity in life and career, using examples from the music and sports industries. They criticize the superficiality of awards like the Grammys, emphasizing that real recognition comes from fans, not institutions. They also express disdain for those who harm others, particularly the innocent, and encourage standing up for what’s right, even if it’s difficult. The speaker believes that maintaining one’s integrity leads to self-respect and peace, and that it’s worse to dislike oneself than to be disliked by others.
➡ The speaker discusses the issue of human trafficking, suggesting that it’s funded by tax dollars and that public awareness is crucial. They speculate that Elon Musk might use the Super Bowl to raise awareness. The speaker also expresses concern about potential threats to the country, such as cyber attacks or power grid failures. They end by discussing their new song, “The Righteous Hunter,” which addresses the issue of child abuse.

All right, folks, welcome to Nino’s Corner tv. I’m with country music star John Rich. Big MAGA supporter. Love having him on. I’ve had him on a couple times. John, man, lots to talk about today. Thank you so much for joining me. Good to be with you, man. And you’ve been doing some great work. I’ve been keeping up with you. I try my best, man. I get a lot of people like to line up and kick me in the nuts for what I’m doing, but, hey, I, you know, I got to report on all of it, man.

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I. I’ve seen some of his posts recently talking about Hitler and things like that. I’m just like, man, this guy’s obviously gone off the deep end. What? Without using the word for YouTube, because we’re gonna put this on YouTube, but he’s now posting his adult film on. Doesn’t this guy go back and forth from singing Christian music, I mean, Christian music, to, like, now he’s doing this. I mean, this guy’s. There’s a. There’s a war out for this guy’s soul, man? Yeah. So basically what he did is he started posting adult content. Graphic. Like, as graphic as you can get.

Adult content on his. On his X panel, like a bunch of them. Right in a row. And I, I thought that cannot be true. And so I unfortunately flipped over to. I don’t follow him, but I flipped over to his X account and sure enough, there they are. And what was crazy is at that point they had been up for five or six hours. It may. So, so this is graphic. This is like as graphic as you can get. Like not soft. This is like all the way in. And so what is he doing? Testing Elon’s limits.

Like what, what is he doing? What would be the purpose of this? Why would he. And then why would you put out stuff for free? I mean, if people have to pay for it. I don’t. What is he doing? I don’t. I think to try to understand the mind of a madman would make you mad yourself. So I say don’t try to understand it. Number one. And number two, you made a good point out of the gate that here’s a guy singing Christian music, holding church services out in California, thousands of people showing up and he’s walking around out there like a modern day prophet and then he turns around and starts doing stuff like this.

So what you’ve got there, listen. The worst crime he’s committed is not putting adult content on X. The worst crime he has committed is stepping out on stage and professing to be, professing to be a voice on behalf of Jesus Christ when he’s not. The Bible talks about that a lot, about false prophets and, and people that will lead a lot of people astray. And that’s exactly what he’s done. Now of course he just blew the whistle on himself to such a degree that any serious person is no longer going to believe that about him. Yeah, but okay, an adult.

But look, think about the kids that are very impressionable that maybe we’re following him now into the light, into Christianity and, and, and rethinking their lives and thinking they want to follow Christ. And then all of a sudden, bam. He hits him with this. Whoa. Talk about. These kids are going to be thoroughly confused. That’s quite a setup and knockdown from the devil, isn’t it? To suck people in, to suck people into what they believe is, is God’s word and the truth about what he said and then come to find out it was being spoken by an absolute derelict.

And yeah, that would shake a lot of people’s confidence. And is this whole thing nothing but a charade? Is the Bible a charade? Is Jesus a charade? Is, you know, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Is that just a Charade Is that just something people use, people like Conway, Kanye west use to attract big crowds and to further their own agenda. I guess. There’s a lot of preachers out there. Conway. Yeah. Conway. Yeah, I’m sorry, Conway Twitty. I will never make that mistake again. But there’s a lot of. There’s a lot of actual preachers out there who aren’t that dissimilar.

They don’t, they don’t go on X and post adult content. But if you dig into these guys at all, some of the big, big mega preachers, you’ll find out they don’t have one G7, they have three G7s and they, they have seven or eight mansions around the world. And they get in front of that microphone and only preach things that make people feel good about themselves. They never preach anything that convicts their audience, their congregation. Stuff that stay the hard stuff. I mean, say things that make people uncomfortable, make them have to think about their life when they go back home and hopefully make changes.

Those, those preachers way more dangerous than Kanye West. Way more. There’s a whole culture of that. And I have a. Just had this feeling for a long time that when the truth hopefully is finally told to us across the board as to who’s been involved in what, and by that, you know what I mean, Some of the most atrocious things that your audience and I are aware of that go on in our country, we find out some of the people involved in that are some of the biggest preachers, are some of the most conservative politicians, are people that the mass public, Christian conservative public has grown to trust.

I believe that is very likely to happen. You know, I listen to some country music here and there. I love like, you know, Hank Williams and Johnny Cash and stuff like that. But I gotta say, man, just knowing you, I put you right up there now, man. Like. Like to me, like you are legit. And, And I really. I. It. I don’t give it. I don’t give a shit if you win a Grammy or not. I, I know you’ve had number one song. I like your music. No, you’re the man. And I know my audience thinks the same thing.

And you. And the, the thing that I, that I love about you, John, is you have a backbone, man. You have a backbone and you’re, you’re not a sellout. And that’s going to go much further than any of these people. You know, I guess we could call Kanye a false prophet, because if you really think about it, that would be considered a False prophet leading people astray. Right. Bringing them in and then bring. And then leading them astray. Could we say that? Yeah. Well, well, the devil himself quoted Scripture. Satan himself quoted the Bible. He, you got to remember Satan, Lucifer, the devil, same, same entity.

He knows the Bible better than anybody. He knows God better than anybody, anybody. He’s been at war with him since before the earth was created. He’s been at war with him forever. As far as we know, it talks about in Genesis, there was a war in heaven and a third of the angels were cast out that Lucifer and his, his third that he was able to convince to rebel against God because Lucifer wanted to be God. He challenged him and he lost. And so a third of the angels that he conned got cast down with him.

And their ultimate defeat was when Jesus rose from the dead. The devil thought he’d beat him there too. Yeah, we finally crucified Jesus. We won. And then he rose from the dead. And that was the beginning of the ultimate defeat that he’s going to experience at some point in the future. But I guess the point I’m making is straight up, demoniacs quote scripture, they know it, they know what the book says, and they’re. Some of them are really good at putting it out there in such a convincing way that people believe it, but they’re believing a lot of the times not in the words or the truth that the person might be espousing.

They’re believing in the person that’s saying it, that the messenger is getting. Is getting the, the faith instead of the message, getting the faith. And that, that’s what I’m getting at about a lot of these mega church preachers and people like Kanye west and others. I, you know, I don’t go to any of the mega churches. I’ve been invited to quite a few here. There’s a one here in El Paso especially. I’m not going to name any names, but I, I just, I’ve always been one to spot that, even as a kid. I mean, I, I just have never been duped, man.

I’ve always been very awake. Even when I was a child, I knew WWE wrestling was fake. And when I go to a church service and the church is massive and they’re talking about, give your tithing, give the tip to the church. Half the service is about that. And they’re talking about prosperity and positive thinking. I’m like, this is not the word of God to me. And I just have never gone back to those. Am I. You know, that’s how I feel about it. But, John, I want to show here, like, you know, without. You know, you’ve had two number one songs.

Am I right in saying that, or have you had more yet? You had Revelation, and was it progress? Yeah, yeah, Progress went all the way up. And those are songs I put out without any record label or anything prior to that. No, that’s just Rich Records, LLC, which is nothing but a P.O. box. I mean, it’s just like. You went straight to the top. Yeah, I mean, I’m a record producer, so I produced records that have sold, if you added them all up, probably around 30 million copies of records that I produced on other people and on Big and Rich and myself.

And then I’ve written over 2,000 songs. There’s two organizations called BMI and ASCAP. ASCAP, and those two organizations are the collection agencies for all the songwriters and publishers. So that’s like the two big ones. So when you have a song being played on the radio, every time that song gets played, it earns like, 9 cents. And so that 9 cents is then picked up by ASCAP or BMI. And then if there’s three writers on a song, then it’s 3 cents. 3 cents, 3 cents. If you write it by yourself, it’s 9 cents. The math breaks down like that.

And so they’re huge. And so all songwriters, professional songwriters, belong to ASCAP or BMI. I say 90% of them do. And so I was asked. So they have award shows every year for the songwriters that had the most success that year. So they’ll recognize this song went number one. Let’s call it Billy Bob. Congratulations, Billy Bob. And they take a picture. It’s at the Grand Ole Opry. Take a picture with him. He’s got, like, a medallion around his neck, and he’s like, man, I can’t believe it. I finally wrote my first number one and gets rewarded for it and the Songwriter of the Year to win that award.

That means that your songs were played more times than anybody else in the whole format of country music. That’s. That’s the top award is Songwriter of the Year. And I got that three years in a row. Wow. Three years in a row. Of all the songwriters in Nashville, I got it three years in a row. So that says it already. Just to give me an idea of how on top of the game I was. And since then, I went, I’ve got other interests now. I still write songs. If I write one that really means something, like Revelation, for instance, I’ll write it and I’ll put it out, but it’s not my driver anymore.

I don’t sit around like I used to and write Nino. I used to write around 125 to 150 songs every year. That’s how many I would write. I was a full time songwriter, so. But what that gave me was the toolkit to be able to take an important subject now at my age and what I care about now. And very craftsmanlike, write a lyric, write a melody, and then all the records I produce, take it in the studio, produce it, and then release it on my own. And, you know, I thank God, been blessed, made successful, so I don’t have to depend on somebody else’s money to pay for that studio.

I just go book studio myself and then put it out. And nobody can tell me I can’t put it out. That last song, Revelation, it’s racked up like 10 million views. It’s been. It was. It’s everywhere there. I saw the other day a guy sent me a video of a children’s choir in Ohio singing Revelation. First graders singing. And they’re doing the hands that, you know, all the hand gestures like little kids do, bro. Of all the things that I have seen in my career that knocked me down so hard to see these little kids singing that song.

Because that is no joke of a song. I mean, that is a powerful, powerful lyric coming out. And they are singing it at the top of their lungs. Standing ovation from all their parents. I went, this is unbelievable to me that that was a bigger award than the ones I got hanging on the wall. So what you did was like, kind of like you bypass the middleman and you. That’s like. Is that like a big. This is kind of new and fresh now. This is happening quite often. A lot of people are getting these number one songs without having to sign with a record company or anything like that.

Just putting it out on YouTube and then BAM. And then Apple, Apple Music, and then boom, it explodes. So is that like a big no? No in the industry? I mean, once you do something like that and you bypass the middleman or the record labels, is that kind of like you’re not getting a Grammy now? You got to go our direction. You got to go our way with this. Yeah. If you step out of there, if you step out of their machine that they built and win. Oh, they don’t like that at all. And the last thing they’re going to do is give you a God no.

Because then their artists, when their contracts come due, are going to be like, why am I going to sign over 80% of my records to you when I just watched John Rich rattle off two number ones in a row with nobody and he owns all of his content? Why would I do that? It doesn’t mean any of that. So when you say it was bought, it wasn’t bought. It was. It was bartered for. It was traded around. They moved their blocks of votes around and they land the ones they want to land. Okay, you can have the big rap award this year.

We’re going to take the rock award, they’re going to get the pop Award, we’re going to move this over that. That’s how that works. And if you look at the breakdown of pretty much any awards show, you’ll see it’s a very even outcome for the big labels. Everybody gets a winner based on what their big focus is going to be that coming year. So that’s how it works for Beyonce. And you got to understand the people that run the Nashville record labels, the very top people, they don’t like us at all. They. They don’t like. They don’t like your basic MAGA supporting country music, hell raising Jason Aldean, John Rich, Kid Rock fan.

They can’t stand us. And so the biggest double bird they could flip would be to take a piece, a piece of music like what Beyonce did and give it the highest award at the Grammys. That was the point it was to. It was to flip the bird. It’s a slap in the face. Yeah, it’s like a slap in the face. So. So in other words, what you’re saying is here, MAGA spoke loudly, Trump gets elected, and they’re like, at least we gotta throw a turd in the punch bowl. Yeah. And I’m not saying that, and I don’t want to make this anything racist at all.

What I’m saying is I think Hootie and the Blowfish is a great country singer, but I mean. I mean, I don’t really know his name. Darius. Yeah, Darius Russell. Amazing. He’s an amazing country singer, in my opinion. In my opinion, he is. I can see him getting a Grammy for sure. Yeah, he’s been nominated. He may have won one at some point. Yeah, Darius is. Darius is as legit as it gets. He’s country boy from South Carolina. I mean, that’s. He’s a country guy. But that was the point. It was. It was done out of spite, not because the record outsold anybody or because Beyonce.

I’d like to see Beyonce come to a country music festival and See how many tickets she sell. Put her up against Lainey Wilson under. Under a country format concert, and let’s see what happens. It would be. She will never do it, because the reaction would be it would be rough. So that’s all that was. It was. It was done out of spite. And. And it probably worked because it got a lot of people tore up in the country music fan base. I’ve seen a lot of, especially women outraged, enraged over her win. And they’re saying so and so deserved it.

This person deserved it. Yeah. I mean, it reminds me a lot of, like, I came from a very. Just a terrible sport, corrupt sport, boxing, where I was the fighter. And, I mean, I knew that just, I always tried to go for the knockout because I didn’t want to leave it in the judge’s hands, and because the judges are bought off and the ref sometimes goes for the other guy. And I understand this very well, but it’s so obvious in boxing, right? When you see one guy just fight his heart out, they’re fighting their hearts out, and they give it to the other guy.

And you know for sure, one. One guy won the fight. And it’s just. That happens time and time again in boxing. But now we’re seeing it everywhere, like, where. It’s just so obvious to me, this Cowboy Carter song. To me, I was like, oh, please, man. I mean, this. This is obvious, like a political, like, heist. It was like. It was like a bank robbery. It was like. It was. It was a big, you know, finger to the people that should have deserved it, should have got it to me. And I think what you said is right.

They did this out of spite. So who are the people who did this out of spite that. That said, okay, we’re gonna have Beyonce win the. Win the. Win the country music Grammy. I mean, and Slap Maga. I mean, what are they doing here? Is that. What am I saying this right? They kind of just slap Maga in the face. Oh, if you’re gonna take the presidency, we’re taking the country musical. Is that how this went? Yeah. It really wasn’t against Donald Trump. It’s against the tens of millions of country music fans who they know voted for Donald Trump.

And they said, this is a chance we can just backhand them one time on national tv. Wow. Show them how much we spend. Oh, yeah. Well, you put Donald Trump in the White House. We’re going to put Beyonce. We’re going to let Beyonce have your number one award at the grand this year. So whatever. I mean, Lainey Wilson. Lainey Wilson can sell out football stadiums right now. Okay? You can sell 70, 80,000 tickets doing country music. He couldn’t sell 70 or 80,000 tickets doing pop or R and B music. Absolutely not. That’s how weird that is.

Like, if you put Lainey Wilson at an R B urban pop festival and walked her out there in a cowboy hat, they’re gonna go, what is going. This is what. So Lady Wilson, that’s the one who should have won the Grammy, 100%. Absolutely. Biggest artist in country music right now. Take. Take Beyonce and put her out at Country Thunder and. And Queens Creek, Arizona. But there’s 50,000, or we fest up in Minnesota, where there’s 60,000 people for four days. If you walked her out there, I guarantee what would happen. It would be. People would not be happy.

They’d be like, we didn’t pay to hear that. We paid to hear country music. Simple as that. I don’t begrudge Beyonce. They made it. They made a play, and they got their play. But, you know, another thing it did, Nino, is it outed. It outed the Grammys. Yeah. Because it was. How do you take it serious anymore? You can’t. It was so out of place, and everybody knew. That’s not everybody. I mean, the Beyonce record compared to, for instance, Lainey Wilson’s record, it ain’t even a contest in country music. It’s not even. I would have a better chance at beating Lany Wilson than Beyonce if you were being honest about it.

And I would have no chance at all to be considered for that. And I would have a better chance than Beyonce. So they. They added themselves to the public. I think they probably really hurt themselves. Next time there’s a. The next Grammy shows up, let’s see how many country fans tune in. You know, that’s what I was wondering. I wonder if that’s going to turn away the fan base right there, because, you know, this year, 2024, 2025, is all about exposing, and I really believe that. And I think this is happening on a spiritual level. And all this is going to do is put a bad taste in country music’s mouth.

And then. And they’re probably, like you said, probably not going to tune in again. They’ll. They’ll. But the country fan base will bud light the Grammys. That’s what they’ll do. So do you think they’re gonna. They’re gonna. Yeah, they’re gonna boycott it. Is that what you think is coming next? I mean, is that what people calling for. Yeah, they’ll just watch reruns of Dukes of Hazard rather than watch that. Are you calling for a boycott? A boycott or you just. Whatever happens, happens now? I never called for a boycott on Bud Light or a boycott on anybody or anything.

I’m just telling you, that’s what’s going to happen. They’ll just go happen on its own. Yeah, that’s called capitalism. You know, you don’t have to have. You don’t have to cancel people. A cancellation is when a very small group of people, or sometimes even one person at the top, can unilaterally just shut somebody off. They can just turn them off. That’s cancellation. Capitalism is when the consumers en masse move away from a product or a TV show or an artist or who, whatever it may be, when they en masse, stop spending their money on whatever that is, that’s the kill shot.

But that’s capitalism. That’s not cancellation. This is why I admire you, John. Because it’s very rare these days to see people speak their mind and have a backbone, man. And I’ve always been the guy that comes out and just let the punches fly, you know, I’m just like, let’s just go, baby, you know what I mean? Let’s just see where they land. You know what I mean? And. And afterwards we’ll have a beer, you know what I mean? But. But the fact that you’re the same way, you’re covered in the same cloth, I respect that immensely.

I really appreciate you coming out and voicing your opinion and what you believe in, because that goes further today than anything to me. And I. And I. And that’s what I recognize in people, man. I recognize their grit. If they’re salt of the earth and they speak their mind and they have a backbone. And that is why I can call you my friend, John, because we’re covering the same cloth, man. And then. And please don’t stop being yourself and don’t stop writing music. Keep putting it out there, keep bypassing the middle, man. You are a country legend in my book, man.

I put you right up. All of them, bro. I’m serious. And so you know country music, the ones I admire the most were the ones that were the most authentic, not necessarily the ones that sold the most records or were the best singers or any of that. It was the ones that were. Whenever you heard them and you heard that song that they wrote and you look in their eyes when they’re performing it and they are not playing around, this is not a performance. This is, you are looking exactly and hearing exactly what I think and who I am.

Those are the ones. Like, Johnny Cash is probably the ultimate version of that. Hagrid was also that way. There’s been a few. Loretta Lim was like that, where there was just no doubt who they were. Where do you put Garth Brooks in all this? Because I know that. Isn’t there been a lot of controversy around Garth Brooks lately? I’m not too familiar. I mean. I mean, I remember he was big back in the day, but didn’t he come out supporting Biden or something? What did he do that just slapped everybody? He also slapped country music in their face, right? So Garth.

Garth has always been extremely liberal. Extremely. Like, as liberal as you can get is Garth Brooks. And that’s fine. Go be a liberal. You know, his talent. His talent is unquestionable. I mean, he has insane amounts of talent. One of the most talented guys ever came through Nashville. But I guess, you know, when people hit a certain level of success, for some reason, they decide to start saying things that they know run directly counter to the people who put them in that position. I would say Garth is an example of that. When Biden was inaugurated, there’s.

Garth Brooks walked out there. And I went, well, of course. I’m saying, of course Garth Brooks is there. Of course he is. He’s big liberal. But then I watched him walk over and give a big old bear hug. He’s just hugging her as hard as he can, doing the bro hug, you know, and then, you know, the whole thing. And I just. I said, I hope all the country fans are seeing this, because not all country fans are conservative, but the vast majority are, and they took notice of that. He’s actually opening a bar up here in Nashville, and we’ll see how it goes.

I mean, people. The country music audience has a very long memory if they ever feel like you betrayed them or you presented yourself to be something that you are not. And they ever catch you doing that. Ask the Dixie Chicks how it worked out. I mean, it don’t. It. It. It sticks. It’s a tattoo. They don’t really get over it. And again, that’s. That’s to the point of, I’d rather. I’d rather still be me. And nobody ever have a doubt what I think, where I stand, what I’m about, what’s important to me, and as importantly, what I’m against, what I push back against, what I.

What I go after doesn’t matter if I outsell somebody or win the award over somebody else. It’s the integrity of knowing me as just as a person and that my music mirrors me, that what I sing is who I am, what, what I feel is what I write. That’s an artist. You know, singers. I’ve compared singers and artists. That’s. They’re, they’re two different animals. The music industry moves like a sidewinder snake. You live out around El Paso, you’ve probably seen one or two in your life. They, they go back and forth and back and forth. That’s, that’s the music industry.

It is moving like a sidewinder. And what it’s chasing is whatever’s hot. It’s chasing whatever’s current, whatever’s the next thing, okay? And singers face the tail of that snake. It turns, they turn, it turns, they turn. They’ll just follow it. Been a lot of huge careers that have happened that way. But an artist cuts a straight line and that snake goes back and forth across the straight line. And when the snake crosses the straight line of the artist, that artist is hotter than a match. That artist is winning all the awards. They’re the most popular thing out there.

But once that snake passes that, all of a sudden the phone’s not ringing again. But then in a few years, they come back around. Oh, they’re popular again. Boom, boom, boom. This is the artist, this is the singer. It’s nothing against singers. There’s a lot of great ones have made insane amounts of great music. But I’m telling you, there’s a different mentality with an actual artist. The word art, in and of itself, great art means non redundant. I mean, it’s a one of a kind. It’s fingerprints. It’s the only one like it. Like if you say, is Willie Nelson a singer or is Willie Nelson an artist? Willie Nelson is an artist and he’s a.

He’s a big old liberal artist, but he’s an artist. You got to respect that. Nobody sounds like Willie. Nobody writes like Willie. Nobody plays the guitar like Willie Nelson. Nobody. He’s a complete, total unicorn, a real artist. So is Johnny Cash. So is Waylon Jennings. That was the Reddit, Lynn. So is Tanya Tucker. I think big and Rich. I think what me and Big Kenny do. Nobody does that. Nobody sounds like that, looks like that, has that dynamic, has that chemistry. Nobody anywhere. And so that’s what I’ve always been interested in as being an artist. So when I, when I see the gamesmanship of award shows and all that, I go, give me a break.

And then I just move on. Because I know, I know how they actually maneuver those things around. So it’s. It’s not some. Nobody will remember it. In another week, nobody will be talking about it. It was just a way to slap us upside the head one time. So the line in the sand is drawn, though. That’s a good way to put it. You just do the line in the sand. That’s how I’m taking it. You know who I. You know who, on a side note, that I. When I used to go to Juarez and I should go to the mariachi bars and have a few Tecates and just relax and listen to the mariachis, you know who I used to play in the jukebox? Linda Ronstadt.

Oh, yeah, because she could sing Mexican music, man. She could sing those ballads, man. And I would put on her songs all the time. I was like, I’ve never heard of a country artist that could convert over to where, the whole bar in. In Juarez and see that Waters have been seeing her music. I mean, she was incredible, man. Like, yeah, Linda Ronstadt, man. Is she still alive or. She. I don’t even know if she’s. She is. You know, they’re all getting a lot older now. You know what you’ve got, what you’ve got with the Linda Ronstadt or an Emmylou Harris or a Dolly Parton, even people.

We’re just talking female artists. But it goes for male artists, too. The ones that really connect are not just. They’re not just trying to hit all the notes. Perfect. When you hear those singers, you are hearing their soul come out of their mouth, their actual soul. It is their whole being of who they are is coming out through their mouth and through their eyes, and they are lost in that situation. Kenny Rogers was like that. If you ever watched Kenny Rogers perform Lady, he had a song called Lady, I love you, bro. He was off in outer space when he was singing that, because he was.

He was the song. The song was him. You were. You were seeing this guy’s spirit, man, come out of his music. Elvis was like that. You know, we’ve had a few in American history, and that’s the difference. Those. Those are the ones that I admire the most, I guess, in my era and my genre. Like, I loved Alternative 90s. I loved Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam. Like, Pearl Jam. To me, the. The song Eddie, like that, yeah, is just black, dude. The song Black and Pearl Jam, Eddie Allison, Chains Nutshell. I mean, those songs, to me, get me every time, man.

And it just takes one song to make you a fan for life, for these Type of artists. I think Tom Petty. I think Tom Petty, as laidback as he was, he was all the way in that song, man. He didn’t care if his pants were unzipped. He didn’t care what was going on. When he’s singing Free Fallen man, that’s all it is. That’s. That’s his best song. To me, that’s his best song. Back Down. I love Going Back Down. Yeah. For you, like, what song, what music do you listen to outside? Do you listen to all genres? What song, what music do you listen to outside of country? I listen to, like, Audio Slave is one of my favorite rock bands.

I mean, that dude. I mean, this. He’s another one that. When he goes into that song, he is gone. You know, he’s not even there anymore. It’s just the music. Audio Slave is amazing. I love all this. I love Chris Cornell, too. Chris Cornell with Cornell? Yeah. Well, Cornell sang on all the Auto Slave stuff, right? Yeah, Cornell, yeah. I mean, Meatloaf was an artist like that. I got to be really good. I got to be really good friends with Meatloaf. He passed away two years ago, moved here to Nashville. He and I would hang out.

I got pictures of me and Meatloaf hanging on the wall here at the house. But Meatloaf, if we have time, I can tell you an inside story on Meatloaf. Go for it. Nobody will ever be able to hear this anywhere else. I asked Meatloaf one time. I said, meat. You just call him Meat. I said, me? I said, porky’s Revenge. Yeah, right. I’ve seen. I said, I’ve seen concert footage of you back in, like, the early 80s and soccer stadiums in Europe where they. Not. They don’t speak English, and there’s like a hundred thousand people. He goes, Try 150,000.

I said, okay. I couldn’t even tell. I said, and one guy, and you’re walking out on stage. And I said, I’m asking this, asking him, what is he doing? From an entertainer’s perspective, what are you doing? When I see you do this, I’ve seen you do it several times. I said, you walk out there, and before you say a note, you walk from one side of the big stage all the way to the other side, and then all the way back and then all the way back. And you keep doing that until you wind up in the.

At the center mic on the front of the stage. What is that? Because you do that every time. He said, nobody’s ever asked me that question before. So I’ll tell you what it is. He said, when you’ve got a hundred thousand plus people, especially when they don’t speak English, but they know all your music. He said, what I was doing was. He said I was hypnotizing the crowd. He says I was walking to the left and making them follow me with their eyes. And then I would walk to the right. And he says, every time I would come back, I would.

The lap would be a little bit shorter and a little bit shorter and a little bit shorter until I was right in the middle. Then I walk up to the mic and then I sing. He said, I basically wrote, I’ve roped in the entire hundred thousand plus all to a focal point, which is me on the mic. And then I hit him in the mouth. I would have never guessed that. I would have said. I would have thought maybe you were going to say he was absorbing the. The tears or the adulation. You know, he was just, you know, feeling that energy.

He was wrangling the crowd, not unlike how a horse would cut cows out of a herd. He was. He was drawing them into the center where he was going to be standing because he could have just walked right out through the mic. Said, hey, everybody, there’s a lot of thought in that man. Dude, he was a monster thinker. Monster. Massive talent and totally quirky. He put the quirk in quirky, I’ll tell you that. I mean, one of the most oddball people you ever met and an absolute genius. So I’ve had that. I’ve had the great benefit, man, of knowing people like that, knowing the real monsters and knowing them personally, not.

I met him in a green room. Like, I’ve spent lots of time around people at that level. And so when, you know, that’s how the real guys do it, and then you see something superficial on the Grammys, like the record labels getting together and throwing the country award to Beyonce. It’s. It’s so superficial and ridiculous. It. It’s like. It’s like. It’s like shooting a BB at a vault door. I mean, it doesn’t really mean anything other than. It’s just stupid and ridiculous. But real artists do the kind of things I just explained to you that meatloaf did.

I have certain tactics I also use that work for me. Kind of like when I. When I used to watch boxing in the 80s and 90s and it’s heyday, and I would see Marvin Hagler, Thomas Ernest, these guys had to fight each other to death. And nowadays Canelo and all these other guys Fighting these, cherry picking who they want and then drying them out. No rehydration clause. I mean, just handicapping their opponents. And just. The belts don’t even demand they fight anybody anymore. It’s just ridiculous. Back in the day, they used to. They used to have to judge on championship heart, you know, used to have.

The judges would judge on that. And nowadays, as long as you glide by the 12 rounds and not get hit as much and you win the fight, it’s just the whole sport has changed. So I kind of. I can relate to what you’re saying. I can understand it in my arena. From. From what, from my perspective, I understand what you’re saying completely. Yeah. Everything now has been watered down and diluted and it’s all political and it’s just, it’s rubbish. So when I see someone like you, that bypasses the system. The fans are the ones that speak.

That’s how Trump won. The people came out. And then no matter what they tried to do, and I won’t say it here on YouTube, but we all know what they try to do. But the fans spoke. And the fans spoke for you. That’s why you had two number ones. It doesn’t matter if you win a Grammy, the fans speak. So it doesn’t matter if Beyonce wins a Grammy. The fans are the ones that speak. So that’s how I see it. Yeah. At the end of the day, you’ve got your integrity. That’s what you sleep good with.

You’ll sleep a lot better laying next to your integrity than laying next to your Grammy Award, man. Yeah, bud. Yeah. That’s the line right there for the podcast folks. That’s very true. And that goes for anybody. No matter what your station is in life, no matter what you do for a living, no matter who you are, where you live, what age you are, how much money you make or don’t make, integrity is the greatest pillow to lay your head on at night. Absolutely. If you know your integrity still intact. I did not do that dirty deal that was offered to me and nobody would have even known about it.

And I could have done it and I didn’t. I could have screwed that person over, didn’t do it. I could have sacrificed my integrity to gain something from this or from that situation. I didn’t do it. If you can get to that point in your life, your life will become a lot more peaceful. You know why? Because you won’t hate yourself. It’s okay if other people hate you, but, man, if you ever find yourself hating yourself. Yeah, really Having a low opinion of yourself, man, that’s the worst that. That. It’s really hard to live with that.

And you got to fix that. And the only way you fix that is back doing the things that are tough. You gotta. When something’s on your mind and you know it needs to be said. And, you know, if I say that I’m gonna catch flack, I may lose some friends, family members may look at me funny or whatever, but I’ve got to say it. And then you don’t say it. If you swallow that, it will become like a bitter pill in your stomach. It’ll be bitterness down in your stomach. You won’t respect yourself. Yeah, you’ll still have all your friends, but you don’t like you at that point.

So what does it matter if they like you if you’re not okay with yourself? That’s the attitude I’d take. And I’m sure it’s about like you are too. If everybody likes what I have to say, I’m not happy with that. I feel like, well, I didn’t say it correctly. I’ll take another run at that statement because it didn’t hit him like I wanted it to. I take people’s hatred and attacks on me, which happen all the time, as validation that I did say it correctly. I don’t want evil people to think well of me. I want them to hate everything about me.

I hate everything about them. If they’re truly wicked and evil people, people that hurt kids, people that lead people astray concerning God and the Bible and the truth and all that. Oh, I have absolute hatred. You know, a lot of Christians are. Have a misconception about hate. They say, well, God didn’t hate anybody. Well, nowhere in the Bible does it say that. Matter of fact, in Proverbs 6, he hates sin. It lists the people. No, it lists individuals that he hates. Proverbs 6, Go look it up. And. And the first thing it says that he hates are those who speak feet are swift to shed innocent blood.

He hates them. And then there’s another part that Christians get confused with, because I know there’s a lot of people watch you that are Christian people. Where there is scripture that says you’re supposed to pray for your enemies, pray for your enemies. It’s one of the hardest things that we’re commanded to do is to pray for your enemies. Just to pray for your enemies does not say to pray for God’s enemies. My enemy, Nino’s enemy. These are the guys that. This guy, every morning, his dog, you Know he’s on my grass, or a guy that did me dirty in a business deal or somebody that lied to me or somebody.

Whatever. Whatever problem I have with somebody on a personal level, and that’s my enemy, okay? I’m supposed to pray for my enemy. God’s enemies, on the other hand, totally different crew, totally different group of people. And. And the main part of that group are those whose feet are swift to shed innocent blood. So we can put human traffickers, child abusers, people that do things like that. You go into Psalms and David says, I. David writes. Wrote the Psalms. And David’s the only man that God said was a man after his own heart. The only one on record God ever said that about.

David said to God in a prayer, he said, I hate your enemies with a perfect hatred. I hate them with a perfect hatred. Christians need to get a grip on that, because I. I feel like we’re about to step into an era of time here where you’re going to start finding out, like, the USAID stuff. They are. Nino. It’s. My gut instinct. Could be wrong. Is that they are tiptoeing up little by little by little to the really horrific things that our tax dollars have actually paid for. I think if you started with the really horrific things first, people would just shut down.

They wouldn’t be able to deal with that. They would just go, that can’t be true. Can’t be true. But if you start with $23 million for Sesame street in Iraq and $18 million for a transgender opera in Ukraine and this kind of stuff, and then they realize, holy crap, that’s actually true. What? And they’re having this moment of, I can’t believe that’s actually true. And then the next level is worse and worse and worse and worse till it finally winds up at the ultimate truth, which is there are millions of kids and humans being trafficked around the United States and around the world being funded by our tax dollars, I think that’s where.

Don’t you think that’s why, like, the rumors are right now that Elon is buying commercial spots for the Super Bowl? That would be the trickle drip. That would be it right there. To let the public know. Because you need to win the court of public opinion before you start investigating or before you start arresting these people. You got to show it to the people. So I think the super bowl, hey, everyone’s looking. Isn’t that the best place to do it in? If that’s. If we see that happen, which I think. I think it’s True, man. I think it’s gonna happen.

It’s a smart way to do it. I would also say, you know, for years, me, you people watching this show have you kind of look up and go, is, is today the day that the shoe dropped? Is the day today that somebody attacks the power grid? Is today the day that they, the cyber attack happened to the bank shut off or whatever, or somebody sets off dirty bombs in our country? You know, we’ve been, we’ve been concerned about this for a long time. The times when I thought it was probably most likely to happen, nothing happened.

But, you know, all those bad people are still here. They’re all still in the United States. They’re still here. So as I’m looking at it, as I’ve hypothesized about it, if they ever go tiptoe, tiptoe, and they finally get to the part where the exposure lands on the true enemies of the United States, and what they’re guilty of are things that are so atrocious that no human with any conscience, regardless of their politics, would ever be okay with that. They will be rooting for you to take them out. If we ever, if we ever get to that point, that is when I think you’re probably in one of the most dangerous windows of time in our country.

Because they don’t want, they don’t want that to happen. I mean, if they, if that ever comes out, and like you said, 80%, 90% of the public says, go get them, we’ll help you. Go get them. That ever happens, that’s when they may turn the lights out. That’s when they, that’s when they may do gigantic things to try to shift your attention back away from that. I don’t know. What do you think about that? That theory? I think 100%. I think I. I think we already talk about it with a lot of my guests, like we’re already there.

I’m already at the end of this book. I’m just getting people to catch up. Self deleting. I can’t say the word on Fluffy, but self deleting month will be a thing where they’re all just taking themselves out. That’s what, that’s the end. That’s the end game. That’s what’s going to happen. That’s where this is going. That’s where they’re being hurted. They don’t know it now maybe, but it’s coming. And I think that the self deleting month will be a thing. I think, I think first will come Homicides will start rolling on each other and then after all that, they’re done.

They’re going to be bye bye. That’s. That’s the way I see it, John. I won’t take any more of your time. This has been epic, man. I know. It’s Super Bowl Sunday and I’m gonna watch it for the commercials. So whatever. I mean, I’m a Dallas Cowboys fan. Well, I can’t say anything. So am I. We had a terrible year this year. But. And you know, I’m a Dallas Cowboy fan because of my dad, you know, so I love. That’s the only really football I watch is with my dad. But that’s why I like well and just know, just know me.

Everybody that watches you, we think about you often. We know what you’re dealing with with your parents. That’s. That’s a heavy load for anybody to carry, much less both of them at the same time. So, you know, you and I had. You and I had an. At an off. Off channel phone call one night. I know you were having a tough time. So we all think about you, pray for you, and you’re doing a great job, man. Hang in there. Thank you. John, where do people find you on Exit? John Rich on True Social at John Rich.

I don’t mess with Facebook. I am on Instagram. John Rich official. I do a little bit over there, but mainly X. If you want to hear what I’m talking about, go find me at X. I do have a new song coming probably. I think I’m gonna release it when the Sean Combs trial starts. Starts. If that gives you any insight if that gives you any insight to what that song might be about. I’ll tell you what, I’ll text it to you when we hang up. So you put your earbuds in so you can hear it. Good.

Perfect. But the. The title of the song is the Righteous Hunter. The Righteous Hunter, it’s about dads and what they will do to you if you try to put your hands on their kids. And nobody’s written that song. The subject is so hardcore. And I thought, you know what? It’s time to write that one. And are you still. Put it out? You’ve already written it or you’re still writing it? I’ve already written it. I’ve already recorded it. I have not shot a video to it yet. I’m actually. I sent the song to Mel Gibson because I’d like for Mel to play the dad in the video.

We’ll see if he takes it or not. Yeah, if not him, it’ll be somebody else. Pretty epic. But what about Jim Caviezel? Caviezel would be great. Yeah, I’ll ask him. Ask him. Yeah. Okay, I have a number on him. And I texted him, but he didn’t hit back, so it might not be the right number. Okay, folks. All right, folks, Go see him at John Rich on X. All right? Stay with me, John.
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