Conversations with Dr. Cowan Friends | Ep 96: Christopher Gardner

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Summary

➡ Dr. Cowan had a conversation with Christopher Gardner about biochar, a type of charcoal used to improve soil quality. Gardner explained that biochar is created through a process called pyrolysis, where plant material is burned in a low oxygen environment. This process was used by ancient Amazonians to enhance their agriculture. Gardner discovered the benefits of biochar while living in Central America, where the soil lacked carbon, making it difficult for plants to grow. He now uses biochar in his own garden to improve the soil and promote plant growth.
➡ In the 70s, an aluminum company wanted to buy land in Costa Rica due to its aluminum-rich soil, but the government said no. The soil, while rich in aluminum, was low in organic matter, making it hard to grow anything. The speaker discovered that by using biochar (a type of charcoal used in soil to enhance its fertility) and a process called top dressing (adding a layer of material to the surface of the soil), he was able to improve the health of his trees and eliminate a problem with leaf cutter ants. He also found that the heat and smoke produced from making biochar could be used for other purposes, such as curing bamboo and deterring pests.
➡ The speaker discusses his journey from using biochar to enrich soil and solve leaf cutter problems on his property, to generating electricity and heat from the byproduct of making biochar. When COVID-19 hit, he moved his family to the Ozarks and started a new venture. Partnering with local Amish and Mennonite mills, they process excess wood offcuts into biochar, a product that improves soil quality and doesn’t deteriorate. The speaker plans to expand this process to other biomass materials, turning waste into a valuable resource.
➡ Biochar, a highly diamagnetic substance, interacts with water to create a structured, charged water that acts like a battery. This process enhances the growth of plants, as it provides a protective environment for seeds and roots, and improves soil drainage. Biochar can be used as a top dressing for plants or mixed into soil, and it also protects against harmful radiation. The benefits of biochar are not about chemical nutrients, but about the charge and coherence of water and the energy in the soil.
➡ Graphene, a material similar to biochar, looks like a thin layer of diamond and can help plants grow by increasing soil temperature and light absorption. The company, Black Gold Biochar, sells this product worldwide, primarily in five-gallon bags, which are ideal for standard-sized raised garden beds. This product can boost your confidence in gardening and help you grow your own food more effectively.

Transcript

Okay, welcome, everybody. This is another edition to conversations of Dr. Cowan, or with, I don’t know what it is, with Dr. Cowan and friends. And this is a repeat friend, somebody I’ve known maybe five, six years or so, Christopher Gardner. And basically we’re going to be talking about biochar today. And I was just asked, you know, what do I know about biochar? And not very much, which is why I’m looking forward to learning. But what I remember is I was at a conference in Maui probably 10 to 12 years ago, and I was talking about the heart and all things related to the heart.

And the other main speaker was somebody who came to talk about biochar. That’s cool. And so it was a food and farming conference. Food, health and farming. So it was basically me talking about food and heart, and he was talking about biochar. And they even made some, I think, as a demonstration. And, you know, I, I listened to his talks, and even though I can’t remember a whole lot of what he said, I. What I came away with was I was convinced I should use it. And, you know, I’ve been, as, you know, I’ve been an avid gardener, and we have a huge garden now.

And so I, I’ve never actually made it myself, but I, I buy it from, you know, like stores or online or whatever, and then I put it in my garden and, And I don’t know, I. As I just said, I don’t remember even which beds I put it in. So I put more in the next year and. Perfect. So I think that the agenda today is to have you tell us basically two things, which is one, what is biochar? And two, why would anybody want to use it? And maybe three, how to use it and where to get it.

Wonderful. Okay, so with that, welcome. And tell us a little who you are, how, what your experience with biochar is and why. What it is and why people would want to use it. My name is Christopher Gardner. That’s literally my last name. Gardner. And biochar actually allowed me to experience my surname correctly. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Interesting, Christopher. The woman who helped us design our garden, her name was Holly Gardner. That’s really cool. It is. I thought that was great. But anyways, go ahead. Well, so I got into biochar because I lived in Central America, where essentially all the soil was bauxite, which is that red clay, that really sticky red clay that you see a lot in the Southeast United States.

Well, where I lived in the tropics, it was pretty much all that there was no carbon in the ground. The rainforest, I technically lived in the cloud forest, which meant the, the trees, the, the canopy there got the majority of its nutrients from the ocean air. And this made it very difficult to plant things that I liked and have them proliferate in a, in a healthy way. And I ended up spending a lot of money on bringing in Brazilian cacao from the Caribbean coast. And my, my trees kept getting eaten by leaf cutter ants. So I went ahead and lamented that fact pretty, pretty heartily.

And were you trying to grow cacao tree or cacao for, for production or. No, just, just for my farm. I always had a dream to grow, grow, grow the things that I ate the most. Yeah, coffee. Coffee and cacao were like the, the two things that my farm was supposedly going to be like the terrain. Because I was in the rain shadow of this one particular mountain and I just didn’t do it correctly. And I had this permaculturist, Itai Doblev. I was telling him about my problems and he told me about this, this thing called terra preta.

And I was like, ooh, what’s terra preta? And I, and I ended up, you know, looking into what terra preta was and it was Amazonian biochar, but it was like very old. And when I started to study it, essentially that, that, that, that what they were finding as they were clear cutting the Amazon rainforest was that they found these massive canals of this diamagnetic rich carbon. And so this wasn’t charcoal, this was biochar. And these long rows, these like long canals were very, very meticulously spaced and they were huge. And what the scientists were figuring out was that the Amazon culture at one time was very agriculturally intensive, especially in the, in the lowlands.

And they would do a chop and drop system where they would go ahead and dig out these canals, put the earth on the berms, you know, plant with these light demanding plants, which means they’re fast growers. And then what they would do is they’d set up these like little like urns that were like kilns inside the canal. They would chop all the foliage so it fall in. And a lot of people that do biodynamics and do permaculture, understand what I’m saying? With this, the chop and drop, they would drop it in and then they would throw the dirt back over those plants while they were cooking them and they would cook the biomass down in a low oxygen environment and then make a fire in the canal.

Yeah, it wasn’t A technically a canal. I’m just saying it like, if you were to dig a canal, it was just essentially a very long ditch. We would call them a canoa. So they made a big ditch and then they put trees and other carbon material in there. Yeah, but I hate to use the word carbon. They used plant stuff. Yes, yes, Biomass. We. We call it biomass. Yeah. So the way you could think of it in chop and drop. So you’re probably familiar with Hogelkultur, the word from Germany, where essentially you chop down biomass, you chop down trees, and then you cover them with dirt and then you let the dirt accelerate the decomposition of the biomass.

Yeah, well, in this system that they were doing, they’re allowing the heat to accelerate the decomposition. And at the time I was building, did they add heat or was it just the heat of. They did they added heat? Yeah, yeah, I said that they put these like urns that acted like kilns. Those. They. They put these big clay pots. They were essentially making big tandoori ovens. And what they did was they would pour air from one side and then they would feed it from fuel from the other side. And that was actually, at that time of my life, I was building a lot of rocket stoves.

Yeah. And so for me, I was like, oh, this is like right up my alley. I can do this. And so they would cook down the biomass in a low oxygen environment. Because they threw the earth back on top of that biomass, the heat would cause this process called pyrolysis, which is it. It’s a low to no oxygen burn, and it’s very alchemical. Like the alka, the alchemists would do this too. In their reductions that they would have something called an anthenor. They’d put whatever they wanted to reduce in the anthenor and seal it and then heat that up in their kilns and then that would release all the volatiles.

Well, that is the process of pyrolysis. And that’s exactly what these Amazonians were doing. And when the scientists look back into the. Into some of the. Let me stop you there for a minute and see if we can get. See if I got this. So what they found was they made. There was these canals or ditches, and into the ditches they essentially made what we call hugelkultur, which is actually how I. That’s how we set up our garden. Basically, it’s all the beds are hugels where there’s. There’s logs and then branches and then leaves and then soil and then compost.

And all that. But they, in addition to that, they had these ovens, these kilns at strategic places along the way. And so they were able to burn the big biomass at the trunks and stuff at the bottom in a very low air environment. And that’s called pyrolysis. And that’s how biochar is created, essentially. That’s the way the Amazonians did it. Yeah, they did it and they would do it like for miles. They weren’t messing around. And in antiquity, like you had the conquistadors, they wrote extensively about how proficient the Amazonians were at their agriculture. They were like, this is the most agriculturally intensive place that a lot of these men had ever seen.

Which is like, to me, blew my mind when I was reading this and watching some of the documentaries on it. But now I see why. Because like in the tropics, especially where I lived, I just lived a few degrees north of that latitude in Central America. And I could see the problem that they were having down there. I was having the same problem. There’s no carbon in the soil. All the carbon’s in the plants. Right. When you say carbon and you, you know that because the soil is basically just, it just feels like dense clay. Exactly.

Yeah, it’s red clay. In fact, the area that I lived in, Alcoa, the aluminum processing company, they wanted to like buy all of southern Costa Rica and turn it into like a soda can factory in the 70s. And the Costa Rican government said no to that. That’s how, that’s how aluminum rich our soil was. So it’s aluminum rich, dense and very low organic matter. So you can’t really grow anything in it. Yeah, like down there, like septic systems, you didn’t need like there was no code with septic systems because the bauxite clay was so dense that like you could have like a toxic spill 10ft away from your, your water source and there would never be any leaching over.

Wow. Got it. Okay. So, so needless to say, that didn’t make for planting trees all, all that easy to, to have them be healthy. Like you could plant anything down there and have it grow. But the leaf cutter ants was like the big signal to me that I did something wrong. Because the leaf cutter ants, they, they come and eat unhealthy trees. Right. And so what I started, once I found out about the biochar, I started to top dress the, my, my canopy line. So if my tree just tell people what top dress means. So I would take the biochar and just put it on around my tree where the drip line of the, of the water was.

I wasn’t digging the trees up and then redoing the soil. It just, just, it’s just putting stuff on top essentially. Exactly, exactly. And it was remarkable because within a year I didn’t have any leaf cutter ant problem anymore. Like the, the leaf cutters themselves, like I said, they come and eat that which is unhealthy. They do an incredible, they’re one of the only nitrogen fixing insects in, in Central America. So they do an incredible job of taking all the green leafy matter from unhealthy things and then putting it in the ground. But for me it was kind of depressing because my, these are my cacao trees, you know.

So once I was able to, to do that. Hang on there. That’s interesting. I just want to stop for a minute. So don’t do most insects do that? Like if you get, if you have an apple tree and you get something eating the leaves does that, Is that a way of putting more nitrogen into the ground? It depends on the insect. I’m not really familiar. I, I’ve never done a study of other places in the world. I just know in Costa Rica the, but the leaf cutters come when things are unhealthy. Like I, I, I have not studied, you know, bugs all over the place.

But I would think in nature that’s a great way for nature to signal you that you need to, you need to up your game. You need to fix something. Yeah. Got it. I, my, I don’t know either. But my guess is when insects eat leaves of a tree, like with apple trees or whatever, they’re, they’re, that’s what they’re doing. They’re increasing the nutrients in the soil, turning the unhealthy deficient leaves into more rich material. Yeah. Yeah. Because the, what the leaf cutter was so incredible at is they would bring all that green leafy matter down underground and then they would do this fung.

This fungus would go ahead and the saliva of the leaf cutter ant would cause the nitrogen to break down in a certain way that attracted this one spike specific fungus. Yeah. That that fungus would grow and that’s actually what the leaf cutter ants ate. Got it. They didn’t, they didn’t actually eat the leaf. The leaf was just the primer for what they would eventually eat. Got it. Yeah. So fascinating stuff, but go. Yeah. Okay. Keep going. Yeah. So I started making biochar and I, I top dressed my, my little cacao grove and it recouped and I Was like, oh, well, look, I can, you know, pretty much retrofit some of these rocket stoves that I’ve been building.

And I figured out a really cool way to make the thermal riser on the rocket stove into its own retort. And so I was. Tell us what a retort is. I don’t. So retort in this context is a retort is a vessel that you can heat up where there’s no outside, no outside atmosphere can enter it. So once the heat heats it up, it positively pressurizes. So no gap. Only gases can escape. No gases can enter. Yeah, so no air comes in, it only goes out. Right. So I just, I just converted the cylinders that would make the thermal riser in a normal rocket stove into, into a retort.

And I was just doing it as an experiment. I wanted to, you know, kill two birds with one stone. Do the whole permaculture thing of stacking functions. And it worked too well. Like I, I filled up my vessel with coconut shells because I, I was an earthen builder and I would take the coconut husk and rip the coconut husk apart to get myself the good fibers to build with. And then I was left with all these coconut shells. And those coconut shells by weight are mostly oil. And so I had like, I literally had a mound of coconut shells.

So I just broke those up a little bit and I threw them in, into my retort and I lit it on fire and I got, you know, a six foot high blue flame, which when you’re making a fire, if you get a blue flame, you know, you have a very, very hot temperature to the point where it melted my metal grate. Like it, it melted it. Like I had a hole in it. And that presumably was because the oil was creating the heat. Yeah, exactly. And I saw the potential immediately. I was like, not only did I get biochar, I also got all this heat and, and I got a ton of heat.

And then that’s like in the, in the world of making rocket stoves, when you can get that amount of heat, if you can redistribute that, you’re doing a lot of work. Which my house I did, I had that heating water, making electricity, like doing a lot of work. And so, but I got other words at that point, it’s about harvesting the heat and making it go to certain places and do what and where you want it to do. Right. And not only was I harvesting the heat, I was also harvesting the off gassing. Yeah. So you end up with all these volatiles that before before you hit the, the temperature curve where like everything ignites, you have, you’re making a lot of smoke.

Well, there was a big problem in Costa Rica with bugs, as I already brought up. And so a lot of times people would use these like crazy gross chemicals to like treat wood so the wood wouldn’t get eaten. And I had seen some really cool like old indigenous builds where wherever they were had their like three stone fire that created a lot of smoke. I noticed they were building with like really cheap wood. But I asked them, I was like, why don’t the termites eat this cheap wood? I mean, it eats this in all the gringo houses.

Like, how is it that you’ve had this hut for like 50 years and nothing’s eaten it? And they didn’t really have an answer. And then I was watching, I was watching and I was like, it’s the smoke. And then I looked it up. In Japan they would like essentially do smoke curing. And I, I love everything Japanese. So I was like, oh, I’m gonna smoke cure with all this smoke I’m making from my biochar. So I set it up where I had two kilns that would release smoke through a flume. And inside that flume I stored all my bamboo.

So I would smoke cure my bamboo while making my biochar. And then I could recycle. Every time I’d go harvest bamboo, I would keyhole my stands, which means if you’re looking down from the top, from a bird’s eye view, and your stand is a circle, you make a keyhole, right? So you go to the middle and you take out the oldest first. And so the, as the stand grows like this, you can always access from the center. And so what I would do is after a burn, I would go in there and just start feeding my stands with biochar.

And I noticed I was getting bigger and bigger diameter bamboo. All my other fruit trees that I was top dressing. And then at that point I was planting trees with biochar mixed into the planting soil. And I had these massive, like, I would dig these massive holes because I was making all my own biochar. So I had plenty of soil. And yeah, just kept doing this. And my, my little farm, I only had two and a half acres, became pretty prolific. My, my, my cacao was beautiful, my coffee was beautiful. I also like had other fruit trees, like jackfruit.

I had manzana de agua. I had just, just like a lot of the tropical fair that was down there. And then in my own Little garden. I had like, also like all the lettuces, the tomatoes, the basils, like all those types of things that, you know, most gringos like. Yeah. And so basically it, it also solved the leaf cutter problem. It sounds like. Yeah, yeah. I didn’t have leaf cutter problem after that. In fact, I did an experiment because the leaf cutters were like hyper intelligent. They kind of knew like the perimeter of my property once I started to use it.

Which that begs the question, like I. I’ve talked to a lot of biodynamic people that believe like, you know, intention creates like the, the perimeter of a property. And I thought that was kind of hokey until I saw that because my neighbor, my, the one neighbor that was just above me, he had like 170 acres. He had leaf cutter, you know, hives all over the place. Like the, those mounds were like really close to me after I started with the biochar. They never intruded. Wow. Got it. All right, so then what happens? Well, Covid hits my family and I decided we don’t want to go in with before that.

Essentially you reverse engineered those old canals, essentially and started making soil enriched with biochar. That’s. That’s essentially what happened. And then as an off product of making biochar was the smoke that cured the wood and the heat that ran electrical stuff and steam stuff and all the rest of it. Yep. Yeah, I had to. I had like my first, like anybody can go to biocharisma on Instagram. I have all these old photos of my outdoor bathtub where I’d have the excess heat dump from my, my, my rocket mass heater, you know, heating water through a coil and dumping water into that.

And then like the, the hot pan was actually in my kitchen. And then I hooked up because there was all this heat on the outside heat guide barrel. And so I hooked up a series of 1 volt. I hooked up 12, 1 volt. They’re called a thermoelectric cooler or also known as a peltier cooler. I hooked them up in series. So I had 12 volts continuously whenever I was running it. So I just had LED lights running on my 12 volts of electricity. And so it was really nice for me. I could charge my laptop, I could do a lot of things with that because we always had our power going out.

I think I had like a number six wire coming from my neighbor. That was the only electric that I had coming to my place. So my power would go out a lot. When I said I lived, like, I roughed it pretty. I shouldn’t say I roughed it because that makes it sound like there was suffering. I had like this Swiss Family Robinson thing going on. Yeah. Like I really, I really loved and appreciated being able to be off grid and live in that way. Yeah. So. So then came Covid. And then what happens? Covid happens. You know, I get married.

Covid happens where my wife is pregnant, she has our baby, and they start instituting all these weird things down there in. In UNESCO land. And we decide that we’re going to move north. And so I moved my family to the Ozarks and came up to my very first permaculture teacher was actually going to go build an incredible. They called it the Ark in Arkansas. And he told me this back in like 2007. Seven. Wow. I was like. I was like, arkansas, what? You know, and then. And he told me back then, he was like, yeah, you know, the Ozarks have the highest calorie per square meter, you know, density in the world.

And I was like, no way. Because I had never even thought of the Ozarks ever in my life. And so I came here and I thought it was extremely beautiful. Nobody wanted to live here. So. So, so property was very inexpensive relative to what I was used to. And so we moved up here, bought a farm. And I didn’t want to come up here like all guns blazing, like saying, oh, I know what to do, because I had never been in this area of the world. So over the, over the last three years, I’ve been just experimenting with one, how to process, you know, the different biomasses that I could get one, how to get the chain of custody of the different biomasses, then how to actually convert them.

And so that’s where we’re at right now is we have everything streamlined, we have our kilns in place, and we’re now going to start releasing our own brand of biochar to the world. So what’s your process now? Are you just walk me through, like, where do you get this, the material to turn into it and how are you doing it now? We have two. Well, there’s actually three mills that are Mennonite and Amish mills. Yeah. And they’re converting oak, hickory, maple, like all the trees that have been brought to this area essentially, you know, for 200 years.

This area is very over wooded. It used to be the savannah. Now it’s like densely forested. And so there’s a lot of furniture making here. There’s a lot of pellet, like people do pellet stoves and things like all that type of. Of manufacturing and processing of wood pulp happens pretty much in this neck of the woods of the United States. So we’ve, we’ve partnered with two Amish mills and one Mennonite mill that had. They have a lot of labor because in those communities, you know, everybody works. Everybody’s. Everybody’s willing to work. And we’ve essentially, you know, installed a building that has two massive kilns where we can process their off cuts.

And, and we get their off cuts, we break down those offcuts down to, like, you know, very little, like little pieces. So they’re like wood chips. We dry the wood chips and then we run them through the kilns. And our kilns are like literal retorts. They, they bring the, the ambient environment down to, like, less than 15% inside the kiln. So that’s like an extremely low oxygen level and we burn at a very, very high temperature. And so, yeah, that’s, that’s where we’re at at the moment. Got it. So it sounds like. So these Amish and Mennonite people are taking land that maybe they own or they have access to.

And it’s, I would say, maybe, unfortunately, has been overgrown with. With trees. Not that I have anything against trees, but they probably want more agricultural land as well. And so that, but they’re taking. They’re cutting down the trees, using it to make furniture and make pallet wood pellets. And, and that’s how they’re. That’s their businesses. They’re running. And then they have stuff that they don’t want. Right. Like the tops and, and all that. And somehow you, you buy that from them or they give it to you or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We get, we get that excess biomass.

Yeah. Because whenever you cut, like most trees and most people understand a log is round. Yeah. But most all the dimensional lumber you buy is, you know, they call it square stock. Well, to get, to get that round, you know, log into square stock, you end up with a ton of waste. And so we, we take that waste, and it’s just like any good business, you take one man’s trash and you make it into your treasure. Right. And so we’re going to be doing this with like, in oat. In oat production, you know, like the, the halls of oats.

We’re going to be doing this with all these different things that have biomass, because what we’re trying to do is we’re trying to take that cellulitic material that would just for the Most part, if it was just left by its lonesome, it would turn extremely acidic in these massive, like, mounds that they create. And it would actually be a detriment to the environment. Right. In our heating process, we’re getting rid of all the tannins, we’re getting rid of all the. What’s called the volatiles. We’re recycling the volatiles to create even more heat in our retort and then.

Or I should call it a kiln to be technically correct. And those kilns get really, really hot. But because there’s no oxygen, the biomass doesn’t turn to ash. It turns into this crystallized carbon. And then that crystallized carbon now is what’s called fixed carbon because it doesn’t deteriorate. Like when you actually go. Like you said, you’re top dressing. You don’t know where you’re top dressing. You just throw in the char everywhere. Well, that’s great because it doesn’t deteriorate like other biomass that you’ll throw out. That just means your soil will just keep. Keep. You’ll keep having more and more soil.

Got it. So, yeah, so you take this excess stuff, which otherwise would be a problem, and you turn it into this biochar and get rid of the stuff in there. That’s not. That’s not helpful. Like the tannins. And now you’ve got these bags of biochar. So what does that do for the land and a gardener who’s using it? Like, what’s. What’s the benefit of using this biochar? I mean, you’ve said a little bit, but maybe just the main benefit. And you’ll love this because you and I first connected because we’re both water nerds. The very first benefit that biochar does because it’s so diamagnetically charged and porous.

Tell us what diamagnetically charged means. The diamagnetism is like. Every water droplet is like a diamagnet, which means what it has. It has a weak positive and a weak negative that are 180 degrees from each other. Got it. So that. That gives direction. That’s the best way to think of it. So when you have biochar around water, like another diamagnetic material. And by the way, biochar by far is the most diamagnetic substance that we know of. Like bismuth is the most diamagnetic metal. That’s like a 16 on the scale. Biochar is like a 50. It’s almost three times as diamagnetic so what happens to water? When you put water around something that’s highly diamagnetic, it instantly orders, it instantly phase shifts.

So it becomes like, you know, you know, Veda Austin. Well, you know, Masamorimoto, you know, all. Masura Moto, you know, all these names out there that essentially when you see like an ice crystal form and it has that beautiful geometry, that hexagonal geometry that occurs. Well, biochar carbon has that same hypercube hexagonal geometry. And its charge imprints the water immediately. So it’s almost like making that crystalline icicle without turning it cold, which is really neat. And it’s also super porous. So water, when it’s able to go through something that’s semi permeable, as Dr. Pollock’s work shows, when water goes through something that’s semi permeable, these little micro cavitations occur in it.

And those micro cavitations also create another layer of order. So when your water has that much order, that much coherence in it, it becomes like a battery. Yeah. And so I see this all the time. Like I have these biochar pits that are outside because I just cure everything outside. And when fog comes in, we had fog this morning, it creates this like little dome over it. And like all the deer, you know, congregate over there and they want to, they always kind of hang out by the pit. And then I was talking to Veda Austin about it.

I sent her a picture. And our. Her theory, which mirrors my theory, is that water is all linked, like the hydro body, if you were to say. And so as the water is, you know, trickling through the biochar, the liquid part is actually talking to the gaseous particles that are above it. And I think that’s a really cool theory. I think that’s a really neat, neat way to think about it. So the number one benefit is it so you get this highly charged coherent water, which, you know, that I think, you know, I water my plants with water that I put through this shower head that makes everything into these vortexes and all this stuff.

And my I, I’m to the point where I think the nutrients of, for a plant are actually just water. Yes. The charge of the water. I’m of the same mind. The first time I saw Walter Russell’s periodic table as the spiral, it was like right on the heels of me, you know, really diving deeply into Schauburger. And I was like, yes, there’s something about that particular motion that condenses the information and coalesces the information field in the most coherent way. Yeah, yeah. So it sounds like what biochar does is it helps that coherent structuring process and it does that under the ground.

So it’s not just like watering with structured water so called that I’m doing, but you actually have the structured water under the ground, meaning the ground is then charged and that’s what gives life to the plants. Yeah. In, in diamagnetic materials overall protect from dangerous radiation. Like. Yeah, I guess you would say like square waves. Like most, most microwave is like a square wave that’s on the millimeter level things. Our ground now is being pelted by all the same waves that biological organisms above ground are. And so because you have all these little diamagnetic little particles that are facing in every direction, we find that the smaller we make the particles, the more resilient to EMF intrusion there is.

So if you were to think one of the best sayings, one of my first coaches told me when I was coming up, he was like, you know, the farmer doesn’t dig up the seed to see whether or not it’s growing. And I love that saying because that saying is like, once you plant the intention, just go. Don’t keep renumerating. Like, just go. And that’s the way I see biochar is acting like this incredible one. Like we already brought up coherent condenser, coherence condenser. But at the same time it’s doing that. It’s actually allowing the root ball in the, the seeds.

Because I do tons of seed starts with these. It’s just allowing them the perfect medium protective womb to not be intruded upon by the environment. Got it. All right. That’s, I think, a great explanation for what it’s doing. And it. So how do you, how do you use it? Like you buy it in a bag. So you get a bag of biochar. I mean you could make it. But that’s I think beyond most people. But so, so what do you do with this bag? Like, how do you, how do you use it? Well, most people are like most people that we sell to because we’ve just been selling to the local market for a year.

Most people just top dress just like what I did with my grove in, in Costa Rica, you’re just top dressing. You’re just going out, you’re f. Finding the canopy line of your trees or like, say you have some. Like in our area, we have tons of blueberries and grapes that grow here. You just are going to those areas you top dress. I do it with my apricots. They love it. My apricots and my pears love it. So I, I’ve never dug any of that stuff up. I just lay it on top and it acts like a mulch.

You can use it like a mulch if you want. And I find that to be sufficient if you get it and then you want to. Do you want to start your own soil mix? We’ve gone as heavy as, like 50%, you know, by, by, by volume to organics. Just because you can’t. Like, I’ve never seen it, like, with some of my seed starts, we’ve done 100% biochar. And you’re, you’re correct. Like the whole thing, like you think the water is informing the, the seedling and giving it all the nutrients it wants. My, My biochar starts would.

Would indicate that because. Because technically, other than the microorganisms that we see, the biochar with which the microorganisms are a lot like, they’re like the little miniature alchemists. Yeah. Other than that, there’s no techn. Like, if you were to give this to like a soil expert, they might have their hair on fire. Be like, oh, there’s none of the, you know, whatever. Yeah, there’s no, there’s no nutrients in there, but that’s because you don’t need nutrients. Right, Right. So I like, like I said, you can do your own soil mixes. A lot of people I know will buy like, you know, an organic soil mix and then just mix the biochar.

Because one of the things that it does also from a water perspective is say you do live in an area that has a ton of, of clay and, and your soil doesn’t drain well. The biochar will allow the. Your soil to drain well so your, your roots don’t get waterlogged. That’s, That’s a huge, That’s a huge benefit of it. Got it. So it sounds like. It’s just, it’s similar to how I do life, you know, even cooking. I, I just don’t measure stuff. I don’t like measuring. Exactly. So you just go in with your hand, you just sort of put a little bit.

I always like this guy, Alan Chadwick, who’s a very famous gardener, and they asked him how much to water things. He said, water them enough. Exactly. And that’s it. So you put enough biochar and you put it at the drip line, you put it on your garden beds, you put it in your potting soil. And it sounds to me, which I think has been my experience, everything will grow better. You know, it’s just sort of magical because it’s not about chemical nutrients. It’s about charge and coherence of the water and, and the energy in the soil.

Yeah. I’ve, I get as, you know, I, I can be a little bit long winded and get a little esoteric, but, but like I had never seen biochar at a molecular level till just recently. And it, once I saw it, I was like, oh my gosh, this like brings together like the whole hypercube. Yeah. You know, there’s all these like, when you see it at a molecular level, it looks like all these little hypercubes and they’re really shiny. Yeah. And to me, I was thinking, well, you know, I was told in school that diamonds were made from, you know, they’re carbon that are made under very high pressure.

And I was thinking, huh, you know, these biochar or, you know, like in, in the common lexicon, right now everybody talks about graphene. Well, graphene is like biochar at one molecular level of thickness is graphene. Yeah. And, and at, when you look at it, when you look at a cross cut of it, small as, as small as we can look at it, it actually looks like shaved diamond. Yeah. So it’s black with this like incredible pearlescent sheen on, on one side of it. And I was just like, whoa. We’re like literally fixing the carbon to a point where you’re given like the diamond prism because I believe light is being converted, but you’re also giving it the thermal efficiency and thermal gain from the black because that’s something very big in gardening.

Like if you can get thermal gain on your soil roots, man, life comes. That’s why in the tropics, everything grows there. It might not grow well or healthy, but grows because there’s so much thermal gain. Right. There’s so much like. Well here. If you could do that in the northern latitudes and have the light be moving through that diamond prism at the same time with the structured water, I think that’s why it’s like the perfect growing medium. Yeah. Okay, I think we got it. So final thing is tell people about how to access your company and how to order it.

Yeah. So my, my website is blackgoldbiochar.com and we’re just selling blackgoldbiochar.com. right. All one word. All one word. We sell it, you know, worldwide. We can ship anywhere. If you’re in the, you know, Midwest area, We will like you just contact us through the website and we will sell you bigger bulk orders. Right now, we’re just offering. Our initial offer is just at the five gallon bags because that’s the easiest way that we can label and ship. And usually a five gallon bag is perfect for top dressing your standard size raised bed. Got it? Yeah. All right.

Anything else you want to mention? I think we’ve got a pretty good description and I, I think you’re going to get a lot of people interested in this. I, I mean, I, like I said, I’ve been using it without really knowing what I’m doing, but I, I like what, what’s happening. So I’m just, I’m just really excited because for me, on my own personal journey, I was, like, I said I wasn’t living up to my namesake gardener. I was not good at it. And this would like, gave me like the little cheat code to like, actually allow me to be kind of prolific in a lot of different ways.

And so I’m, I’m pretty, I’m pretty stoked. I’m, I’m stoked to share it because if any, I know there’s a lot of people out there that lose confidence in gardening because they’ll have a plant or something and it doesn’t do well. This, this will give you. This will give you confidence to grow your own food. Yeah, got it. All right, thank you so much for sharing that and we will put this out there and we will be in touch. Awesome. Thank you, Tom. Okay. Thanks, Christopher. Okay. All right. What. When do you think you’re going to share this, Tom? Probably next week or the week after.

Can it be the week after? Because actually next week is when we just get the site up. So send me an email and tell us exactly when you want us to post it and we will. Perfect. Awesome. Okay. All right. Thank you, Tom. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye, bye.
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