➡ Dr. Tal Brown Braun, an expert in body language and clinical psychology, discusses the importance of body language in understanding a person’s true feelings or intentions. He explains that subtle changes in body language can reveal a lot about a person’s mindset, especially when they are under investigation or in a high-stress situation. He also emphasizes that these signals can be very subtle and often require an expert to interpret correctly. Lastly, he discusses the concept of ‘duping delight’, a smirk that psychopaths often display when they believe they’ve successfully lied.
➡ The text discusses the mindset of a professional fighter, comparing it to the mentality of a predator. It also explores the difference between a regular person and a psychopath, highlighting how psychopaths enjoy high-energy moments and are often charismatic and manipulative. The text emphasizes the importance of staying calm and balanced, even in high-stress situations. It concludes by discussing the characteristics of psychopaths and sociopaths, noting that psychopaths often don’t collaborate well with others, while sociopaths are more linked to societal structures.
➡ A man who was initially intimidated by a prisoner he was working with, decided to change his approach and asked the prisoner to teach him instead. This shift in strategy led to a better understanding of the prisoner’s manipulative behavior and charisma. The man learned how the prisoner had gained trust and control within the prison, even to the point of having keys to certain sections. This experience highlighted the dangerous charm and cunning of such individuals, who can manipulate situations to their advantage, even in a prison environment.
➡ The text discusses the nature and nurture aspects of psychopathy, suggesting it’s mostly genetic but also influenced by life circumstances. It mentions that around 3% of people exhibit psychopathic traits, with a significant number found in prisons and leadership positions, including Wall Street. The text also criticizes the current culture that seems to celebrate and reward psychopathic behavior. Lastly, it questions the motivations of powerful figures like Donald Trump, suggesting some of their decisions may be self-serving rather than humanitarian.
➡ The text discusses the speaker’s views on psychopaths, narcissists, and sociopaths, highlighting their different behaviors and emotional responses. The speaker also shares their thoughts on a past interview involving President Trump, and analyzes another interview, pointing out the interviewee’s rehearsed responses and lack of emotional reaction. The speaker also mentions their investigation into the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, suggesting there’s substantial evidence of crimes.
➡ The text discusses how people broadcast their lives and intentions through social media. It also delves into conspiracy theories, specifically mentioning Pizzagate, and how these theories can be dismissed or deflected by those accused. The text further explores the idea of body language and micro-expressions as indicators of truth or deception, using a specific example of a woman’s reactions during an interview. The text concludes by questioning the effectiveness of current systems in investigating and prosecuting potential crimes linked to these theories.
➡ The speaker discusses the dangers of psychopaths in power and the potential threat of AI and robotics replacing human jobs. They express concern about a possible depopulation cycle and urge people to reconsider their values and where they invest their energy. The speaker also mentions a live exercise involving the elderly and nursing home deaths, hinting at a larger, more serious event to come. The conversation ends with the speaker’s contact information and an invitation for further discussions.

All right, folks, welcome to ninoscorner TV. I’m with Dr. Tal Brown Braun, and he is an expert in body language. He is a clinical psychologist, specializes in counter terrorism threat assessment, the works. And I reached out to you, Doctor, because you put something under one of my com. Under one of my expos. Saying, hey, I’ve studied body language. When she did this with her hands on her face, I knew exactly what that meant. That it was guilty, right? Yeah. I mean, for me, it was like one. I was so pleased that you put something because I wanted to share because it was just.

It’s just one of those moments that just became so obvious and, and it just was an important moment to share with others. You know, body language can never, ever just be read without context. And the most important thing about anybody in any. When you’re conducting an investigation, when you’re sitting interviewing with someone, you establish a baseline. And so, you know, you’ve got all of this time where she’s spending, answering all these questions and then this specific question comes up and then there’s just such a strong reaction that I just, you know, I had a comment on it because it’s just from my standpoint, from the earliest days of me becoming a clinical psychologist, I just took an interest in psychopaths and serial killers.

And so they are tremendously difficult to read. And you have to know what you’re doing. And so this was one of those, you know, sort of gotcha moments. And, you know, it’s really important to put it into context in terms of the entire entirety of the, you know, her speaking and, and the question. And even, and even what it relates to. Would it be equivalent to, let’s say I was a, you know, a heavyweight boxing contender champion, and let’s say I was denying that to people and they, and if you wanted to find out if I was a boxer or not, you started talking about boxing with me.

And I started, you know, making little movements as I was talking to you about boxing that would be a dead giveaway, right. I mean, like, what she did. Right. Subconsciously. I mean, sometimes when I’m talking about boxing, I’ll, I’ll. I’ll make a little, you know, like, I’ll, I’ll have my ticks. It seems to me like she had her tick when she literally, you know, it’s one thing to go like this, but when she put on the mask and went like, that was total. That made my skin crawl. Yeah. Yeah. So let’s. If, if we, if we look at, if we look at how the, the start of the question and then I’m gonna do this.

Okay, here we go. You ready? Yeah. Yeah. Let’s watch it and then I’ll break it down. Are you aware of any files that were on Anthony Wiener’s laptop in a folder that was titled in insurance, life insurance with a zip file titled Fraudulent Chairman’s ruling. There it is. Because there’s another moment straight after that that I want to refer to as well, which I didn’t put in your comments. Mr. Chairman, watch your hands. Mr. Chairman, based on you said in the public hearing, is this within the scope? We can go off your record For a moment, Mr.

Chairman, is this within the scope? All right, that’s good. So, so anybody that’s seen the clip and, and what you just played over there, it’s not just the fact that her hands went to her face, right? So there’s before the, before the, the question is even out, there’s already, there’s already a higher level of emotion than she was showing before, right? So you can, you can see a change. She’s anticipating what’s coming. And, and then the rest of it is. This is, this is the most important thing about this kind of interviewing technique is that there are certain things, like you said with somebody who’s spent years in the ring, it’s not just the fact that if you wanted to test it, that your hands would come up.

It would be that while somebody was talking about a fight, your positioning would already be changing because you’re putting yourself, it’s a mindset, you’re putting yourself in that situation. You’re putting yourself in the ring. And so watching you watching a fight and me watching a fight are going to be totally different to the point that the micro expressions and the micro changes that what are called idiomotor changes, they like reflexes, they’re going to be so subtle with you that only an expert in your field would actually pick up. Oh, he actually just changed his stance like we’re talking about boxing, but he just shifted, right? And, and now his knees bent because that’s the way he usually, usually fights, right? And this is the thing that, that, that subtly, you know, what makes a professional in any opponent based and how I can feel someone’s hurt immediately, like that little chink in their armor, even in a stare down at the press conference or at the weigh in.

And if they just, if their eyes just move for a split second, I catch that movement, that jerk in their eyes when we’re staring at each other. That’s it. I know I got them. That’s it, it’s over. I know there’s, I know there’s some puppy dog in him and he’s going to be looking for a soft place to land on the canvas. You’re going to look out and whether you know it or not, and that’s why I use the word unconscious. There’s a difference here between somebody that is mentally rehearsing something and something that becomes muscle memory, right.

Something that becomes reflex, right? So if you’re in a weigh in and you keep seeing your opponent looking down at their left wrist, right. Are they doing this, right. That just a couple of times you’re like, interesting, right? Are they hurting over there or they shoulder, whatever it is, right. And so whether it’s in the fight, before the fight. So in this case, you have her. And the thing about psychopaths, and I think this is an important thing for me to say legally, not haven’t diagnosed her. I’ve never run a profile on her for any official court case or anything.

Like psychopath’s a word that we throw around. But just like any other clinical diagnosis, there’s a measure that’s used and it’s used in a court of law, right. And it’s used in terms of people getting sentences, people being able to get reduced sentences, parole, all of that stuff. So with what I’m doing with her and others is that I am attaching the body of knowledge in a way that shows me, Right. That shows me that there’s psychopathic tendencies and shows me that over, not just this interview, but over a course of time, you seeing somebody with low levels of empathy, you’re seeing somebody that’s callous, they laugh, inappropriate at the wrong places.

Even if she didn’t do the hand movement, like, it’s not a laughing matter, right. It’s not something that brings on a smile. It’s not something that. Right, she smiled, she’s smiling. It starts off when, when there’s another term that I’ll throw in here, which she doesn’t actually do in this, but the, the term is duping the light. And it’s another subtle expression that psychopaths cannot hold back on when they lie and they think they’re getting away with a lie. They smile, they smile. It’s a, it’s a certain smirk. It’s an, it’s, it’s a, yeah. Unmistakable smirk that.

Now, now, doctor, in, in my own way, I gotta say, you know, boxers have to have the perfect poker face. In fact, we can never show emotion it can never show. When we’re me, we’re mad, upset, hurt, we have to always keep the same straight face. The entire. If you ever watch a fight, they’re always straight faced, never a flinch, nothing that you can’t show, any grimace hurt, nothing in a fight because that’ll give you away to your weaknesses. So I’ve, I’ve learned to in my own way in a fight, in a matter of a fractional of a second, I gotta reach somebody.

And I’ve been able to do that throughout my fights. And I know when I hurt somebody in the body or I’m, I’m catching them with a jab and I can see that little bit of a, a tincture, a little tweak in their look. I got them. I know where I’m doing right, I know what I do. And that’s gonna be instantaneous. So this is why I’m able to pick up what you’re laying down. I’m, I’m able to follow you thoroughly on this because it makes so much sense to me. I picked it up when I first saw it and when you brought it to my attention in the X post, I was like, he’s right, he’s right.

It made my skin crawl. Yeah, and, and, and, and there’s both sides to this. So there’s the, there’s the ability to, to read the language and then there’s the ability where you as a fighter, you, you’re actually the reason that it makes your screening call. And, and, and the reason that let’s say a person, a person with no warrior, no, no, no predatory feel, no fighter mentality, why people struggle to pick up these kind of nuances, right. Is that you have to be able to be in a predatory mind. Right. To be a professional, to be, to be a professional in a fighting art, to be a professional sniper, to be a professional soldier.

You, you, you have to have that, the, you have to have the, the biology of a predator now. The difference between. And the killer instinct. Absolutely. You have to. Right. Otherwise you never know. You know what gets me about this too is if you look at just where I paused it, right here, look at that glare. Like I don’t have to be here. You, you are beneath me. I’m better than you. Isn’t that what it’s saying? That’s what it’s saying to me. It’s a glare of, you know, I am superior to you and why am I even here? Yeah.

I think the thing that you’re seeing from the elite scum, you’re seeing from the technocrats the word I would use for her facial expression just as you’ve poured it. It’s smug. It’s a different form of arrogance. It’s an arrogance that says it doesn’t matter what you say, I’m getting away with this anyway. I think ultimately that’s where we are. And that’s why I think it’s just so important that people learn at this time period. They need to learn. I’m running a presentation, I think the 21st of March, because so many people have been asking me to teach what I taught law enforcement around, around how to, how to understand and spot a predator, how to outsmart them, how to know, you know, what, what it is that, you know, what it is that they doing that, that can be confusing in terms of how strategic they are.

And so the. What you’re seeing from her and what you’re seeing from, from everybody that’s basically messing with our reality and taking down us down this, you know, existential threat in terms of humanity, is that they know they’re getting away with it and they’re getting away with it daily. So you’re seeing somebody that’s smug, right? She, she, she’s, she’s laughing in disbelief that somebody would even have the balls to ask this question. And then it comes out. And basically only at the end of this did you get even more of a tell in turn that it becomes emotional enough for them to say, we’re going off record.

Right. I mean, to me, that’s even bigger than the Bali language tell that there’s something so significant here that they couldn’t just even answer a question. She didn’t say, what is that? She didn’t say, you know, this is, this is absolutely nonsense and stay calm about it. She’s, she’s literally buying into the energy of the question because it’s emotional. Right. There’s also a part to it that I think is what you saying in terms of skin crawling is that the. If we knew for certain that, that she was guilty of this, then we could be certain that what she’s also re experiencing throughout the entire piece to this is thrill.

Right? So, so what’s different? What, what when, when you live, when you re. Relive one of your best fights, that should, that should feel, that should, that should feel thrilling for you. Yeah, you should be smiling, you should feel arrogant. You should be remembering exactly, oh, that guy talked some beforehand and then look what happened. And then I took him out. Right? And so it’s the same thing. Here, these moments and that you saw this with, with, with Bill as well, these are, these are moments that are enjoyable for them. Right, right. That’s the difference between a regular, regular person and a serial killer and a psychopath is that they live for the moments that have high energy.

Just like you would look for your best fights because you built in a way that you’re relatively, not even relatively, if, if somebody needs to be a professional fighter, what they have to have is a, an innate calmness, right? Like I, like I said, like I say to my, my, my young son, I said him all the time. The calmest one wins 100 level head calm. That’s why, that’s why the martial arts for me, like I, I’m hot headed and I, and I had to learn through practices like jiu jitsu that it’s the calmest one that wins because it’s not my, it’s not my natural physiology, right? And you know, I went 36, 0, but I was terrified on every fight.

But I was calm. I walked into the ring calm. I was still scared out of my mind, but I was able to collect myself and be zen and fight the way I needed to. The only two fights I lost at the end of my career, at the very tail end of my career was when I had no more fear. And I was an emotional wreck after having like certain traumatizing events happen to me. I just went into those fights highly emotional, angry, not balanced at all. And that’s when I lost. Yeah, that’s when it happened. But you are correct on that.

So this is why they don’t lose. Right. And I worked in a Mexican security prison. I’m the type of person that I would call. What people misread with me is they think it’s an arrogance, but I’m confident, right. And so when I was training to be a psychologist, that confidence translated into my supervisors one wanting to make sure that I remain stimulated, but also sort of like dick moves that they would do. They would give me very difficult situations and very difficult patients and clients. So one of my first, my, one of my first clients was a psychopath, a guy, A guy, you know, you know, in, in a maximum security prison with a, with a life sentence for terrorism.

And so can you explain the difference between a psychopath, a narcissist? I mean, I’m sure all the qualities kind of blend together. But what’s the difference between a psychopath? I mean, what’s the resounding differences between a normal person and a psychopath and a sociopath so sociopath is really interesting because we always, we use that word so regularly. It’s not a clinical word. It’s not something that the, the people that, you know, write up the definitions for something like psychopaths use. Sociopath tends to be the way that people describe a sociopath. It tends to be more of a link to societal, to societal stuff.

Like, like, like the strategy is like somebody is sociopathic in terms of like they’re a gang leader, right. And, and it’s the gang culture and they become the leader of that culture and they have the qualities of a psychopath. But ultimately they are, they, they driven. Their strategy is to win the game within their circle. Okay. A psychopath generally doesn’t collaborate with anybody, right. Because they’re winning their own game, right? They, they very rarely team up. They very rarely are able to collaborate with anybody. They, they’re, they don’t work well with others. They don’t work well with others at all.

But when they do, it’s vicious because it’s like a pack of wolves, right? So it’s like they come out for these hunting moments. But psychopaths amongst themselves, they’ll know. And this is where you’re seeing it with, with the Epstein files are also very charismatic. They know how to like really flatter people to get what they want. Correct? Am I right on that? I’ll tell you how charismatic and, and that, that manipulation goes and that, that, that magic that they’ve got. There’s a story that I tell in presentations where the, with this client that I felt that I ended up working with the two, the two things with him is one, and I’ll get back to this.

They have a laser ability to cut you down, right? If there is something that you feel ashamed of, if there’s something that your self esteem is a little damaged with, if there’s a way to charm you. They are laser focused with that. They will immediately, they, immediately. It’s just they, they hone in. It’s like a heat seeking missile. They just, they know how to just get you. Yeah, they will. And it’s, and it’s instant and you feel it, you feel it like a punch. So that my experience with this person for weeks on end was actually feeling that.

And he broke me. Like this guy broke me week after week. You know, he told me in my first session with him, listen, I’m only doing this, this is in my file. I’m going to get nothing out of it. You’re never going to be, you’re never going to Be good at what you do. You know, I’ve got. You can check my records. My, My IQ is probably double yours. All of this stuff, right? I mean, the guy spoke multiple languages. I mean, this is an ex special forces guy, right? And so they are. They tend to be.

They tend to be. The charisma turns on when they need something or they want something. And so I got to see that after I made a major change. And this is where the strategies come in to defeat people. Like this is that week after week went by where this guy intimidated me. And then I was leaving the prison one day, and I’m sitting in the car and I’m looking back and there’s just this tiny window. And I’m thinking to myself, this guy just made me feel like shit for an hour. But I’m going home. How smart can this guy be? Right? That’s smart.

Like, how brilliant can he be with these multiple languages that he speaks, that he won’t even choose his dinner tonight. But I can choose whether I’m going to eat a steak or not. And I can choose to turn the TV on or off. But. So it was that moment for me where I went back to him the next week and I said, listen, I. I’ve been thinking. You’re right. There’s absolutely nothing I can do for you therapeutically. That’s what the literature says. You’re unfixable. Right? So let’s cut through the. If you’re only doing this. If you’re only doing this for a.

To. To have a note in a file somewhere, and I’ve got to be with you for a year. How about you teach me? How about you teach me about good approach? Well, I, I’m interested in the stuff that you used to do. How did you finally get caught? What mistakes did you make? Teach me. I bet he loved that. Oh, man, he loved that. That’s another ego. And that’s it, right? Stroke their ego straight to ego, straight to ego, right? And, and, and also to the point that he doesn’t see me as a threat anymore. He sees me as somebody that’s now playing the same strategy.

He knows the end goal is just a note in a file. Many years in case he ever gets parole. Now, now we’re coming from the same place. And, and now it was. It was. I. I mean, it was survival for me. I mean, I couldn’t. I couldn’t keep working with him, and I certainly wasn’t going to quit. So that was the first change. But the, the real lesson with him that I can pass on. And this is why people can’t see behavior from people like. Like. Like Hillary or anyone else. Is that that fake, that what they call glib charisma, that magic that they’re able to do, is something that’s almost indescribable? The story that I’ll tell you helps to understand how powerful it is.

After bonding with him and after thinking that, like, now, you know, I’m. He’s not challenging me anymore and getting to know him. There was. There was a day that I arrived at the prison and the. The office that I. That I was supposed to use was. Was unavailable. So he says, never mind. We’ll go. We’ll. We’ll. We’ll just go chat in my cell. I said, okay, what does that mean? So he goes, it’s all right. You. You know, you. I’ll tell them that we need somewhere to chat. And they all know you, right? And you’ll. You’ll come with me, and they’ll give you permission, and we’ll go and we’ll finally get to show you what my cell looks like.

And so not only did this guy get permission to go through certain points in the. In the prison system, but he had keys. He had keys. Keys. And the reason that he had keys is he understood that to get to the point where you could dominate and you could. You could control the situation, you become the barber. You cut the hair of the head of prison. You cut the hair of all of the. Of all of the wardens, right? You get to know every person. You get to know the dirt on people, and eventually they start trusting you.

And he becomes the teacher. He needs keys to get into certain sections. So not only are they waving people on top of that, probably. Oh, yeah. I mean, blackmail, getting people to do everything. Epstein. Shit. Right? Epstein, right. It’s the network. They can thrive in any single environment. They’re chameleons. They’re chameleons, so they can thrive wherever they are. And so with this, I walk through the prison with this guy, and. And I get into. To his cell, and I’m sitting there, and this is where your audience goes. I cannot believe that you had this guest on that said he was smart.

How dumb can this guy be? I’m sitting with the psychopath in his cell. All right? Every single other cell on the way there was completely bare. I get into his. It’s got carpet, it’s got cupboards, wooden cabinetry. It looks like IKEA has built it for him, right? That’s how Manipulative these people are. I get there. He makes me coffee in his cell, makes me coffee, gives me a cup of coffee. And it’s on that first sip. It’s on that first sip of coffee, as the bitterness touched my mouth, right. That I went, what are you even.

What are you doing? Whoa. I was like, what. How did this happen? And, and the re. This is what they do. They can sprinkle. They can sprinkle their charisma and their magic and their influence. And you just don’t see it. You don’t. You don’t see it. This is how they plan their escapes. There, There was a guy when I worked in the prison. There was a serial killer in a wheelchair that plotted an escape. This is in South Africa. He plotted an escape. By the time they caught on to the fact that he was planning to escape from the prison, he In a wheelchair.

It’s when they found bullets amongst the markers and crayons in an art therapy group that my colleagues were running. Okay. The serial killers. You cannot turn, you cannot turn your back for a second. You cannot trust them when they talking. They lying. Right. They are pathological liars. Here’s some interesting, interesting things about language and around body language. One, psychopaths have a lower heartbeat than regular people. Same as an athlete. Do you know your, your, your resting. You know your rest if you’re wrong. I’m not. I haven’t been training. I used to, but it’s in the 50s right now.

It’s in the low 50s. Okay. That’s, that’s, that’s predatory. That’s predatory cardiovascular system. That’s a. Explains a lot. Okay, you. So the difference with you is you turned. Yeah, but your energy. But. I mean, but I’m, but I work out every day. It doesn’t matter. You’re going to have people that can work out all the time. They’re not going to get into the 50s or 60s. They may stay in the 70s forever. It’s. You’re starting pressure. I don’t know if that, I mean, you’re saying, what, you have high blood pressure. Yeah. Okay, so the combination of having a low resting heart rate and pressure in your system is like perfect plumbing.

Right. It’s perfect blood flow. You’re. If you need to, if you need to pump blood into. If you had, if you had a low resting heart rate with low blood pressure, you would feel lightheaded all the time. Yeah. And you could, there’s no way you could ever be strategic because you have to be able to pump blood all the way to the ends, right? Like, like. So that would make sense to why maybe I was attracted to boxing. I mean I’ve been doing this since I was a kid though. I mean I’ve been doing this as a 5 years old.

Maybe is, you know, training every day lowered my heart rate rate. I don’t know. I would say, I would say that there’s no, there’s no way someone’s going to be a professional fighter without, without predatory biology. The difference between you and a psychopath and a predator and a criminal spending their life in prison somewhere is that they don’t know how to channel and they don’t have the rest of the life ability. They don’t have the rest of the things. Right. They don’t have the ability to read the room. They don’t have empathy. They are only strategic and it only is self serving people.

Yeah. And I know when, I know when to turn it on. Like I go in there to kill, correct? In the ring I’m there to kill you. And you can turn it on and you can turn it off. And it’s got, immediately right after the fight I’ll go have a beer with a guy. And it’s not a bar, right? It’s a ring. There’s, there’s meaning and purpose to it. You’re not going to be explosive over, over, over nothing. This is the difference between somebody who’s, who’s a professional, somebody that’s, that, that’s at their craft. So if you, if you have a low, think about it this way, right? If, if, if, if somebody is sitting at, at a, you know, at a deposition, some form of hearing, answering questions about this criminal enterprise that they’re all involved in, right? Their reaction from the average person is it would seem like they’re about to have a heart attack, right.

They wouldn’t be able to just make it conversational. They wouldn’t just be able to raise their voice when they need it over here and lower it there and joke about this and smile about that. The stress of it, like a stress test would be at a maximum and, and they would lose it. They would lose it. They would, they would ultimately start stuttering. They would, you would see other, you would see a dry, dry mouth. All of this stuff like Prince Andrew literally tells people he can’t sweat. Okay. Interesting, right? If, yeah, if you, if you have the physiology, if you have that predatory physiology and you at that baseline, it takes so much to, to bring you to the point of a regular person, right? It takes so much like Like, Hillary is her experience.

I mean, I feel like I’m an empath, though. I mean, I, I mean, I’m a very generous and caring person. That’s what, that’s what, that’s why we’re not coming. We’re not having the conversation with you. Right? That’s, that’s the difference. Right. I mean, but it’s weird. Like, I was able to go in the ring and do what I did, but I was very. I, you know, I love people. I’m not, you know, I can feel people’s emotions very easily and it, you know, can really bother me. You know, like, so, so it comes down, it comes down to neurobiology.

It comes down to the ability to feel empathy. So is it genetic or is it nurture nature? What is this? Both. It’s both, but it’s mostly, it’s mostly genetic, in my opinion. I mean, this is, this is, you know, something that is. There’s life, circumstances, but, but ultimately the, the path that these people are on and their physiology is wired to become an apex. Oh, it’s a perfect storm. It’s kind of like, it’s, it’s, it’s nature and nurture. It’s like it comes together and just. That’s what creates a psychopath, basically. Sure. And it’s lineage, too. Right.

So there’s that. When you talk about genetics, you can normally find there’s, there’s a, there’s been a pathway where, you know, have a, have a look at the murderer from, from Vegas. Stephen Paddock. Right. His father, his father was. Was wanted for bank robbery by the FBI. You know, you don’t just, you don’t just. I can’t imagine he comes from a very loving household. Yeah, you don’t just get to that point where, where, you know, your physiology is going to dictate some of it, but you’re also going to have that matched physiology in, in family pattern.

What about like the Iceman? The Iceman had a family dude, and he would go off the, the mobster killer, right? The sir, he would, they’d hide the hitman, he’d go off and murder people, come home and hug his wife and kid. Funny story with that. So I worked the bar scene in my 20s, and I was also a part owner of a nightclub in my 20s. And one of the, one of the clubs that I worked at, it was always a guy that used to come in and his nickname was John the Hitman on the Hitman.

Just coolest. Coolest guy ever, right, Teddy Bear, you know, give Give guy big bear hugs whenever you see him. Except one day he comes to me and he grabs me and he goes, come with me. And I said, what’s going on, John? And he goes, there’s someone downstairs. She’s passed out. And there’s no way that she died here in this club. I’m moving her. I’ve got to move a body. I said, john, but is she okay? Like, what’s up with her? Like, he says, I. I don’t care. I’ve got a body. Register with him. I’ve got a body.

And I got to go move that body because it’s that that person was not dying in his friend’s club. I get down there, all she needed. I mean, it was like a mild overdose. She needed someone to call her an ambulance. But he was ready to bury her, right? That’s when he turned on. And then I realized. And I said to everybody afterwards, like, I can be the dumbest person, right? In some. In. In terms of naivety with some things. Because I. At no point did I ever think that it wasn’t a nickname. This guy’s name was John the Hitman.

He was a hitman. He killed people. Damn. So people. He was just concerned with getting the body out of there? No liability on the club? Sure. I mean, it was his friend’s club. There was no way that he was going to let his body down. And he went to work, and that’s maybe the whole reason that he was there. And I didn’t know it at this, you know, in terms of. In terms of some of these, you know, friends that are around these. Let me ask you this, let me ask you this. How many people suffer from.

I mean, could we say like one in ten, one in a thousand? How many people are considered or labeled a psychopath? Okay, so the high, the, The. The highest level you’ve got around, you gotta. You’re gonna. Around 3% of people that would ever meet psychopathic trade. Right around 3% in the world. Okay. It, like, ever. In terms of. In terms of like my numbers. Because what’s interesting about it is that once you have a tiny subset, and I’m so tempted right now to check my numbers because I haven’t thought about this. These stats for a while.

I. But the numbers are something like, if you, if you want to find psychopaths, 10% of them you’ll find. You’ll find in prisons. But 30% of that small percentage is. Can I guess? Yeah. Sorry, I said already. Position. But. But even more than that, financial. It’s Wall Street. Yeah. Right. Wow. And, and, and in leadership positions, I think currently, the thing that I’m working really hard to try and change, and sometimes it literally feels like you’re whistling in a tornado, is that the world that we’re creating now is a world that’s scary for me for a couple of reasons.

One is that we have reinforced culturally, we’ve gone to a point now where to be a psychopath and to be predatory is, is seen as amazing. Right? We rewarded, it’s embraced, it’s revered, it’s, it’s the people amongst us that, that, that is, that, that ultimately people will chase and say, that’s my role model. Right? That’s my role model. That’s, that’s how I want to be. I want to be lethal like that. I don’t want to give a shit about anything. I want to, I want to be able to sit in front of a deposition and lie like that.

We’ve, we’ve created a culture amongst the youth that, that literally celebrates that way of being. So my mind goes, Hillary Clinton’s one thing. I think we can all agree on her on that. But then my mind goes to someone like Donald Trump who’s put in this most powerful position. He’s, you know, to crave that position and want that position, you gotta have not just a, a big ego, but you got to be a megalomaniac, right? But I mean, he does seem to be doing, he does seem to be doing the job for good, right? To help the American people.

I mean. Or what is he getting out of this? How do you, if you had a psychoanalyze Donald Trump, I’m sure you have. What do you get from him? Okay, what, what. I get what I get from him. And this is, this is where this is just a tremendously difficult time to be absurdly honest. Right? I’m like, it’s almost like if you had a look at where I am in, my IQ is over the charts, but the one deficit that I could say, that’s always my downfall is that I cannot but tell the truth. Right? And so like that.

And there’s no half measures with me. Like, so basically you get what I. The most upsetting thing that I see with President Trump is that he’s making decisions, okay. For, for the, for the nation and for the world that are, in my opinion, self serving. I don’t believe they’ve, they humanitarian. I don’t believe that at this point, with all the evidence that we’ve got, that if he was in Control, for one. If he was that major decision maker and if he was absolutely making decisions for the planet, and this is where maybe he believes he is, that he would call Operation Warp Speed a success.

Okay, so. Okay. All right, let’s. Okay, so, like, my audience is very fine tuned in this on why it happened in the direction the firewall behind Trump, the generals behind Trump that asked him to run the whole thing. So that gets tricky. I know. So just, just instead of going into it, just give me the category he’s in. The category that. Is that a category that he’s in is. This podcast is going so many different directions. I just want to. Okay, I’ll answer the question of whether. Whether I’d like I did with Hillary, like, that I could do for him.

Right. There is another investigative technique that you use to. To put you on the path of knowing what biology you’re dealing with, and that is when it comes to. When it comes to taste and smell, there is a higher emotional value attached to taste and as specifically as it relates to violence. So there was a moment for me a couple of years ago where President Trump was being interviewed and we had just launched a whole bunch of tomahawks at a country, might have been Syria, I don’t remember. Okay. And he was sitting with. He was at the time of that launch, at.

The way he tells the story is that he was with the. Either. I don’t know if it’s the president or Prime Minister, I think, eating a chocolate cake. Yeah, Prime Minister. I think it was with the Prime Minister of Japan. Right. And he was eating chocolate cake, and he talks about the chocolate cake in the same sentence as talking about launching missiles. See, only you would pick that up, right? Only someone like you, an expert at this, would pick that up. That’s so damn interesting. So I hated that moment. I absolutely hated that moment. Because that’s diagnosis for me.

It’s not. To me, you’re not. You’re not the same as everybody else when you’re talking about. When you’re literally talking about death and murder and power. But the thing that your biology remembers is chocolate cake. Now, give you another example of this, right? So I’m definitely not saying Donald Trump’s a perfect person. I’m far from that myself. But it’s troubling for me that, like I said, is that where we at is that psychopaths and the psychopathic nature. And to go back to your question about, about narcissists and psychopaths and sociopaths is that you have different Ways that they.

That different ways that they function in the world, different ways that they will dismantle. Right. Narcissists are easier, but more. But. But more explosive in terms of, like, when they get caught or when they need to leave something. Like, they will take. They will take everything down with them. A narcissist doesn’t want anything to survive. But there’s overlap. There’s overlap with all of this pathology. But when it comes to your true psychopath that you’re dealing with, they don’t have. A narcissist would still have emotions. A narcissist would still have a reasonable amount of empathy. Right. For.

For certain things. A psychopath doesn’t have empathy for anybody or anything at any given time. This is why people say, but I don’t know. They’re just void of emotion. They do. They. Yeah, they. They don’t have it. It’s not even emotion. They can feel emotion. They can feel an adrenaline rush. They can feel a thrill. They’re not. There’s no but. But it. But it comes from. It comes from different things. It doesn’t come from the same. It comes from the. The winning the deal versus, you know, watching somebody getting married in your family. It comes from knowing that at that last minute that you outmaneuvered them and you won the chess game.

That the thrill moments that they seek are all very, very opponent. Like, I guess. I mean, for me, in my own way, boxing, right? I mean, knocking a guy out was like the. The most thrilling adrenaline rush. You know, sex, I mean, it was like. It was like. I was like going from one high to the next, one high to the next, But I still was very compatible. See, that’s the weird thing about me. I was still very compassionate, loving it. And I could still feel sorry for people. I would. You know, I’ve always wanted to help people, and I don’t know.

So they don’t have any of that. Right? And that’s the hardest part. So, like, if I see someone homeless, on the street, on a skateboard with no legs, I’m gonna get out and be like, dude, can I help you? You know what I mean? Right? So a psychopath would see the guy on the street that needs help, and the decision would not be based on. Most people make decisions based on circumstances, mostly around time. Okay. Helpfulness is called the Good Samaritan studies, where if you have the time to help, if it’s not that much of an inconvenience and something needs to be done, most people will take some level of Responsibility in some compassionate moment.

But a psychopath would see a homeless person and the only reason to even notice the homeless person is that they seeing a token on a board, an object. If they wanted to impress their date, they would help. If they wanted to impress their business partner who they thought was just a psychopathic. Psychopathic, they might kick the guy. Right? They’re going to do. They’re going to treat every human being in every situation as an object on a board game. Oh man. Right. And so that manipulation, Manipulation, it’s. It’s. What can I do with this person? Or what can I do with this moment that becomes self service? So, so can we just for a moment, can I bring her back up on stage and can we go through some of this interview? It’s only four minutes.

Sure. And I’ll just stop every 20 seconds or so and you tell me what you see. Absolutely. Is that okay? So like I’d like to hear from you, get your expert analysis on this. I’ll play just, you know, just a few seconds. Stop it and you tell me what you see. And this is only about four minutes long. Does that work for you? That works for me. All right, here we go. Past public statements, as in 2017 speeches and interviews, you described Pizza Gate as a baseless conspiracy theory alleging you and others ran a child sex trafficking ring from Washington pizzeria basement.

Have you reviewed any 2025, 2026 Epstein files that were released that you believe, reference or relate to those specific 2016 claims regarding. Okay, what do you see there so far? I see that this is rehearsed for her. Right. She knows that certain questions are coming up. This doesn’t have much emotional value for her. Right. This is, this is not podesta that’s being asked this question. It’s not the people that were, that were at, at, you know, Running Comet Pizza. This has low emotional value for her. What, what’s. What’s interesting about it is you can see that without that emotional value, she’s deadpan.

There’s nothing there. You know, she’s hardly even blinking. Right, right. There’s. There’s nothing there. It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s. Right, it’s. It’s. It’s a shock. Swimming up and down, you know, just. Just going. There’s not that. There’s. There’s no reason to breach. There’s no reason to. To. To swim faster. There’s nothing happening for her except. Except mentally preparing how she’s going to react to whatever comes next. All right, let’s go to the next. The Podesta emails Comet ping pong pizza used as code. Possibly. I’m sorry, does this her about whether she’s reviewed emails in the Epstein file was relate to the wacky pizza gate? You could characterize it however you want.

I just would like to know if she’s familiar with any of them. So. Excuse me. Your question is about whether or not she. Wow, look at that. That’s an evil look right there if you ask me. But go ahead. So yeah, I mean that’s, that’s, that’s. To me that’s starting to get into Duper’s delight. That’s, that’s a, that’s, that’s starting to be a slight thrill, a smirk, a smugness. She, she, she knows where this is going and, and she knows that they’ve rehearsed for this particular question in my opinion and that she’s, she, she’s not bothered by it but she finds it entertaining.

I mean this is stimulating to her. This is not frightening. Yeah, you can see that. Look at that grin that like explained by all of this. It’s a circus for her. It has reviewed any emails in the Epstein release files about Pizzagate. Correct. Pizzagate was totally made up. It was an outrageous allegation that ended up hurting a number of people that caused a deranged young man to show up with his assault rifle and shoot up a local pizzeria. Cut. And so right now, shit, right now in terms of anything that they may have rehearsed of this potentially coming up or that it’s come up before, she’s explaining it away.

She’s, she’s gone into something that’s just factual. It’s not that emotional. She’s literally laying it out like an attorney would be. These, these, these are the facts. And she’s gonna, she’s gonna diminish. She’s gonna diminish any information about it with a, with a common narrative by the side note for me is that I probably would have never put in the time that I did into Pizzagate, but I had literally just broken my ankle and so I was crashed out on a sofa. And I had time at the time when Pizzagate happened, I had the time to go down that rabbit hole.

Otherwise I probably would have had said oh, there’s probably something there, but nothing substantial because that was the narrative that everybody was fed. But like I said in one of my posts, you only have to spend. A reasonable person with a reasonable IQ should be spending 30 minutes to know that there’s Substantial evidence of crimes. We don’t know how horrific, but certainly crimes and certainly a circle of some of really nasty people that it was all laid out there in people’s social media. You know, I always say if somebody tells you who they are, you should believe them.

And that’s in my field. They call it. They call it leakage. I don’t like the term leakage for social media or these kind of micro expressions. I just call it broadcasting. It’s what we’re doing right now. We’re on the air and we’re giving out information and that’s what people do with their lives. Whatever you’re choosing to do, the words that you do, the how you express yourself, the photos that you choose to put up, the value systems that you got, you’re broadcasting intent, you’re broadcasting and who you are as a human being, you wouldn’t have, you wouldn’t have pictures of, of, of, of children with, you know, taped with their hands taped down on a table if you, if you didn’t think that that was reasonable and entertaining and, and pleasing to your circle.

100%. All right, I’m gonna play more. I can’t believe you’re even referencing it. You should be there. There are connections to the, the language. Well, the QAnon people believe there are. So I don’t know what. Have at it. But you’ve accused certain parties and I think even right now, today. Okay, what do you see there? Just deflection, right. It’s. It’s what people did with. What was it? Deplorables. It’s what people did, you know, Biden throughout the world during mandibles out of Texas. You know, it’s literally just a term that an average person hears the word and thinks, well, there’s nothing here.

She just told. Right. She’s not, she’s not saying, oh, a guy that’s. That’s taught, you know, violence prevention to law enforcement, emergency management and public health for a decade thinks that there’s something in Pizzagate. You know, I’m not somebody even follows. I don’t know that much about. Guess what? I think there was something with Pizzagate, but by her just deflecting it under one term, making it sound like a crazy conspiracy theory, that’s it for the average person. She just deleted it. Right. Of promoting slow walking information in ways that fuels conspiracies. And your view, did any Epstein Max 1 well related investigations or file handling pre or post 2019 contribute to or intersect with the spread of Pizzagate style theories about Democrat Figures.

Objection. I have no. So she just. To me, just staring blankly at this person like, you’re wasting my time. Sure. Sure. She’s. But not only. Not only is she sending off the messages that there’s nothing here, she’s actually bored. Right. This is. This is why I think she’s pretending to be like, you’re wasting my time. She’s really. I think. I think. I think she thinks it’s a waste of time and it’s boring to her. That’s. That’s why I picked up the other. The other, you know, body movements because they’re more significant than this. This. This basically tells me that she’s in control, just like she was in control of.

Of what she chose to wear. You know, it’s not coincidence that she’s wearing the same, you know, color blue as. As. As Lewinsky. It’s not coincidence. Yeah. I mean, this is all programming and supple cues and, you know, Lewinsky was a victim, so she’s a victim today. You really think she thought into that? Or was that. Oh, 100. 100. Wow. And not only. Not only do you get to the point when you. At this level where you thinking about it, you’ve got a whole crew of people thinking about it. You got a whole. You got a whole PR team.

Everything down. I mean, there were reports that she told them exactly how she wants the stage to look, the lighting. It. It’s. It’s all control. Right? It’s. She. She’s an Absolutely. She’s in control of this entire thing, except for the moments that she’s not and her own body gives her away. Damn. All right, here we go. Way of answer that is the most speculation. Ridiculously. Have you or your representatives identified any Epstein file content that has been misinterpreted online to revive those claims? And what steps, if any, have you taken to clarify again, object. The ground of.

I think that this is all. Okay. Yeah. Nothing here. Nothing. We might as well speed up until. Until this. Okay, so I’m going to get to the good part. Yep. She’s. Let’s get to the part where she. She. And when she starts doing the. When she starts doing the face motion. Motion. You know, earlier, before I made the point about watch the hands and take yourself back to Macbeth to the line out. Damn spot. Right. When you’ve committed a crime with your own hands and you. And you’ve got blood on your hands, when you’re feeling guilty about something, you know, you’re cleaning, you’re doing this, you’re ringing you’re wringing your hands.

You’re clean. You’re cleaning off your hands. So that’s that. That to me is part of that whole. That. That hotel that we. That we see. All right, here we go. Files that were on Anthony Wiener’s laptop in a folder that was titled in insurance, Life insurance, with a zip file titled Frazzled. Chairman’s ruling. This is way out in the scope. This. Is this within the scope. Mr. Chairman, chairman rules that it’s not with the scope. Wow. She even rubs her hands together, huh? So she takes. She takes it off and then literally starts ringing out her hands and looking.

Looking down at her hands. And so for me, the comparison here, if I’m. If I’m teaching. If I’m teaching an officer, a detective somewhere, and he’s interviewing and, you know, they’re looking for that hunch moment. Have they got something here? Should they be keeping this person here for an extra hour’s worth of question? Their intuition’s telling them something. Like if they take the person back to a moment, let’s say, of a shooting, and the person’s got their, you know, their hands, let’s say, just flat on a table. And the next thing, like, you know, you watch their hand and their hand comes up into a fist and you watch this finger, right? Just subtly they’ve, you know, just tiny tonal muscle, tiny little muscle memory because it’s part of the story.

They’ve gone back and they. In that living that moment. So that, at least from an investigative standpoint, just like it does with Hillary over here, you can’t say that it’s for sure. This is not. This is not criminal level. There’s nothing here that can be prosecutable on a microtel. This. There’s nothing that. In terms of her body showing that there may or may not be something here. But what it does is that it should let people know to take a second look at something. It lets people know that there’s enough there of something that you go around again, or you keep that person there for another hour or you bring somebody else in with another technique.

None of this would ever be definitive, but it’s useful. It’s useful in terms of. Of, you know, it’s. It’s useful to make sure that you’re not missing out on something vital in this point, whether it’s crimes, whether it’s, you know, we’re on a checklist. I’m sure you’re the same. Now, let me get your. Let me get your analysis on her. Guilty or not. Guilty. You know what it would be? It’s not, it’s just like I’ve done with everything else. It’s not professional for me to say guilty, not guilty. It’s professional for me to say, I don’t know why this wasn’t looked into properly.

I don’t know why anybody. If it’s true that in a bunch of, a bunch of detectives died. If it’s true that there was enough there, just like with, with, with, with Hunter Biden’s laptop, just like with Wiener’s laptop, just like with the Epstein files. You know, we’re living in a time period now where I think the, the main problem with this network is that it, they’re all, they’re all connected in some way. They’ve all got levels of, right? And so to pull this apart, to pull this, to pull this thread apart with them all involved, I mean, the most difficult time period we’re living in is how do you prosecute any of this? Who do you even find, right? If you have a look at, if you have a look at the information that she’s being asked about, it’s like everybody that would be in a reasonable position to answer these questions or in a reasonable position to, to chase this and to seek justice and to make sure this wasn’t, you know, done again to the world, you’ve got, you’ve got the list of all those people that are involved in it.

And it’s the same thing, it’s the same thing with, with her, and it’s the same thing with the network. I’ve got to say that there was enough here, there’s enough here to, to know that that’s not, that’s not reasonable. Those are not reasonable reactions. And once again, I’m not looking at it just in terms of like one second’s worth of information, right? It’s the full context, it’s the context of why she’s there. It’s a context of how she’s answered every other question. It’s the choice to wear the same color dress as a victim because you’re the victim of the day.

It’s the subtle programming, it’s the control. It’s the fact that that moment ended with them saying, we’re going off record, which is huge, right? If there was nothing there for any of them, that moment wouldn’t have even happened. I’ll go back to your, your question on the main difference between a narcissist and a psychopath. I hate to say this, but really successful apex predator psychopaths, they they’re unstoppable. They living on their own. They’re living on their own timeline. A wolf among sheep. Yep. You know, we, we, we, we wait for them to make mistakes. Occasionally we get to hold the people that are, I would say, not able physically and, and intellectually to reach absolute apex predator.

So when you see somebody in a prison or you hear about these horrible crimes or you hear of a hitman, you’re still not dealing with that, these, this group of people that ultimately run the show. And that’s terrifying. And at the same time, I think there’s opportunity for us to change. I think the biggest call to action right now for anybody is that we’re not going to survive a lot longer on this planet in terms of human beings if we don’t have a moment where we understand that we need to start thinking about our value system.

We need to dictate, like what, what are we doing each day, who’s getting supported, where our energies going. You know, I, I, it, it’s troubling for me that the highest level, right, of, of, of crimes related to psychopaths relate to two main things. They, there’s a sexual side, there’s a sexual side to this violence. That’s part of the thrill. And the other is that ultimately, like anybody else, that, that tries to mirror the world. What we’re seeing is that because we are in a psychopathic time period, we are seeing our world turn more and more psychopathic.

So in other words, AI robots replacing everybody, you know, it, it might all, it might all seem convenient until your own empathy should kick in. And we should be saying, but if you’re getting rid of all the jobs, right? And if you’re replacing somebody’s ability to feed their children, right, Then ultimately the logic is, what are you going to do with them? Yeah, get rid of them. Now we go back to the story of John the Hitman, right? This is why I’m 100% sure. And this is what I spend my day doing every day, helping people to understand that we are in a major depopulation cycle.

This is, and it hasn’t started yet. I think, I think people, you know, look at the math desert we created with the elderly, the nursing home deaths. The biggest thing that I can tell people right now is that that was a live exercise. They said it themselves. Yeah, they called it a live exercise. Now in my world, from emergency management, if I’m told something’s a live exercise, I know that it’s as real as it’s going to get. We are practicing everything. There may even be live fire, but it’s not the real thing. So what is the real thing? And the real thing for me is that that’s where we heading.

If you’re going to let AI and if you’re going to let robotics take over billions of people’s meaning, purpose, and the ability to fend for themselves and make a living, you are going to need a plan to kill them. 100%. Dr. Braun, I appreciate you coming on. I’m gonna try to put this on YouTube. It will go on TV and rumble. I’m gonna try to get it on YouTube. There’s a lot of stuff here that. That may stop that, but I’m gonna get it edited. So the highly edited version will go on YouTube and the Fringe will be on Dot TV.

Nino’s Corner TV. Dr. Talbron. Wow. Man. This was like, one of my favorite podcasts. Oh, I mean, that’s just. Just. Thank you. This was just crazy. Like, I’ll be back. There’s a lot of. There’s a lot of. There’s a lot of information people need to hear and a lot of. A lot of preparedness for what’s coming that I really want people to understand. Well, let me get you on as many times as you want. Just reach out to me. Take a deep dive into. Into what? Into what was and. And how it was done. And more importantly, how.

How we land up surviving this. Absolutely. So let’s stay in touch. Stay with me just for a moment. Where do people find you? Dr. Tal Braun has my stuff. I’m mostly. I’m. I’m very active on X. And I have a Dr. Tal Braun on X, right? Yeah. Yeah. What? Yeah, Dr. Tower on, uh, on X. And then also just all my links are on my website@drtowbron.com. that’s T O. That’s T A U B R A U N. Correct. Yeah. All right. And just the word. And just doctor as in doctor. Okay, stay with me.
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