Claudio Grass – Change Is In The Air People Around The World Are Beginning To Unite
Summary
➡ Migrants in Switzerland are different from those in other countries like the UK and France, as they come for less government control and taxation. The speaker believes politics is a pursuit of the left and dislikes centralized governments. They predict more conflict and violence in the future due to people’s unhappiness and lack of prospects, possibly starting with the 33rd Olympic Games in France. They also suggest that the world’s economy is being heavily controlled by the government, leading to a misallocation of goods and services and potential impoverishment of the people.
➡ The text discusses historical conflicts and economic crises, predicting potential future turmoil due to geopolitical tensions, particularly in the Middle East. It suggests that these conflicts could lead to mass migration and societal unrest, with the US losing its global influence. The text also discusses theories about population control and resource scarcity, suggesting that powerful figures may be promoting these ideas for their own benefit. Lastly, it introduces the concept of ‘caloric bypass’ as a key to weight loss and improved health, as proposed by Dr. Steven Gundry.
➡ Dr. Steven Gundry’s health research has helped him lose 70 pounds and maintain a healthier lifestyle for over 20 years. However, there are concerns about the effects of vaccines, with some people experiencing health issues they believe are linked to the vaccine. There’s also a growing unease in Europe about the economy, with people feeling unhappy and uncertain about the future. The stock market is seen as manipulated, with a potential crash predicted, but the timing remains uncertain.
➡ Over the past few years, people in the United States have been buying gold more than ever before, even from warehouse stores like Costco. This trend suggests that people are worried about inflation and the value of paper money decreasing over time. Meanwhile, emerging countries are selling their US treasuries and buying gold, contributing to the rise in gold prices. Despite the West’s preference for speculative investments like cryptocurrencies, gold remains a reliable form of currency due to its scarcity and divisibility, and is expected to significantly increase in value in the coming years.
➡ The speaker is preparing for a potential economic crisis by investing in physical gold and silver and living in a secure, rural location. He believes that governments are overstepping their bounds, especially during the pandemic, and fears a future where personal freedoms are further eroded. He also mentions a project to digitize physical gold, making it more accessible and transportable for individuals.
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Claudio is the owner and creator of precious metals advisory Switzerland. You can view his site at claudiograss Ch. And I am very happy to have Claudio back on the X 22 report. Spotlight Claudio, welcome back to the Spotlight. Thank you very much for the invitation, Dave, always a pleasure sharing some ideas with you. Yes, thank you for coming back on. And since you’re out in Europe, I just wanted to get your perspective of what’s going on there. I mean, I think we spoke last time almost a year ago, and now Covid is pretty much gone. People aren’t really afraid of COVID maybe in small pockets of areas.
But what do you see now happening out in your area in Europe? Well, I think I see two developments. Basically, the first development is, let’s say, the last 18 months. I would say that the middle class is gone, especially in Germany. I mean, we can see the same also in the United States. No, I mean, one of the main indicators for this is when we look at the classic retail market, the gold customer, the little guy who had some money and whenever he had 5000, $10,000, then he went out, purchased some metals. And over the last 18 months, basically, I think 90% of the transactions have been selling by the individuals.
And the main reason for this was that they cannot pay their invoices any longer. Healthcare went up, rental went up, energy went up. So that’s one of the facts that I’m observing. So that the middle class really the trend, they’re driving down the system. So there’s a trend that we are going to be impoverished, or at least all the guys who remain in this system are going to be impoverished, at least the 99%. But I think the other trend which we can also see now is really a kind of radicalization among all different kind of groups who see themselves as victims.
Of course, we have this radicalization between left and right. Also with the elections. It’s an election super cycle this year. Also in Europe, we can see there is a radicalization among national people, Germans, for example, and migrants. The same is happening in France. The same you can see also in the UK. So I think we are going into this period of divide and conquer. I mean, you know, they showed us how we can divide the people with artificial flu. And now basically they just push it to the next level. I mean, Lenin always said something, you know, we can, and I quote Lenin, we can and must write in a language which sows among the masses, hate, revulsion and scorn towards those who disagree with us.
And I think that’s what we can see all over Europe, much, much more coming up these days. Do you feel that the people now that they see the migrants coming and the illegals coming into their countries like France and Germany, do you feel that people now are starting to wake up and starting to say, you know something, this isn’t good for our country, this isn’t good. We can’t allow this to happen? Or do you think people are still sleeping? I think the majority of the people never agreed, you know, is mass migration. I mean, it’s already in that word, you know, mass migration.
So whenever you. It’s a political agenda, you know, really to destroy western culture, western civilization, to destroy all, all different cultures at the end of the day. And that’s why they are pushing for mass migration. And so now we have, you know, especially in Germany, for example, in the UK or also in France, you know, where you have the big cities and then you have these areas heavily concentrated with migrants. At the same time, we can see that the economy is weakening. You know, we see more businesses going out of business. We see higher unemployment rates.
Inflation is still there. So, yeah, whenever people realize that they are going to be impoverished, that they have less to spend, and at the same time they can hear in the media, especially in Germany, how much, for example, a migrant is paid if he’s just coming to Germany. This is also, I think it’s just a political agenda. They always wanted take the people in. If someone has to pay for something he doesn’t want, that always creates, of course, problems. So I think we can see in the media, of course, there is still this narrative that you have to accept everyone and that it’s good and great and that is changing the world in a better sense.
So the media is propagating one narrative which the same shit that they are doing for decades now already. But I think the people, they now realize, but first of all, they have to realize it in their own pocket. They have to realize that the money becomes more worthless and all these prices are rising. And once you have those kinds of circumstances and the people are getting unhappier and unhappier, there is always a focus on the people who get something for free and then the blaming starts. But I think this is accelerating now. And you can also see in the media that it’s a changed a bit.
So you have more media outlets propagating that violence is coming with more migration and so on, which was not the fact over the last few years, but now the same guys who were always pro migra immigration. Sometimes they also now against immigration. So I think it’s just building up the narrative, trying to create more hatreds among the people, among the different groups. And, yeah, it’s this old divide and conquer strategy at the end of the day. So you’re the same shit. I mean, every eight years we can see it. It’s nothing new. It’s Marxism, it’s communism, it’s collectivism.
Yeah, with all its toxic elements. So you’re in Switzerland, right? Okay. Is Switzerland letting in the migrants like France, Germany, Spain, the UK? No, we have much less immigration into Switzerland when it comes to guys from the Middle East, Africa and so on. We have a kind of, you know, we have quite some people from Eritrea which are visible, but still, if you look at the density or if you look at how many refugees basically came into Switzerland, it’s much, much less than in the surrounding countries. So over here, I mean, we have, you know, we have in Switzerland, we have, 50% of the people in Switzerland are foreigners.
But we always had, also in the past and even up to today, I mean, we always had those kind of migrants who basically came to Switzerland because of less government, less taxation, more freedom. So we had, you know, the quality of the migrants has been much, much higher than the surrounding countries. So you don’t have the mass migration like the UK where they’re bringing them in on the boats. Like when you see, when you look at France, you see mass migration coming into France. I mean, we’re not talking about a couple hundred, we’re talking about thousands upon thousands of people.
So you don’t have that in Switzerland? No, not yet. I mean, we had that maybe once when there was, in 2015, of course, when everyone, when there was a big migration movement, then we had certain weeks where we also had a lot of migrants standing at the border. But usually those migrant routes go different. They don’t go through Italy and Switzerland into Germany. So that’s going more France and then the Balkan and of course, yeah, directly into the UK and so on. So we are still in a better position. So with the countries like France and Germany, you said the economies, they’re breaking down, they’re not doing too well with the election in France, with Macron and Le Pen, do you see the powers that be like Macron, that they’re trying to stay in power any way possible? And do you feel like they’re either losing power or can they still hold on to power? Well, I mean, you know, to me, whenever it’s, whenever we talk about politics, then I truly believe, you know, politics is always the pursuit of the left because even now when you really think about it in politics, you only have the illusion of choice with two options and one is basically national socialism versus international socialism.
That’s why I’m not such a fan of politics, because I’m a freedom loving individual. I don’t believe that we need rulers. I don’t believe we need a state. I think I’m swiss, so we can organize everything from the bottom up. We don’t need centralized governments and all that crap. I mean, the government is always the problem. The state is always the problem. It’s never the solution. So, I mean, in France, what you can see now is, I mean, mockro always wanted to have a revolution and he doesn’t care the way he gets it. And I think now you can see also the radicalization also in France it’s really the right against the left.
And now the left, of course they came together when they were realizing that this foreign national is getting too big, getting too strong. They really started in alliance over the last few days where they basically took out the second choices and were trying just to make sure that the left is going to win. They achieved it, of course, in a way. But that just means that the people are even more divided than before. So when you say revolution, do you mean like a revolution between the people in France? That’s what Macron wanted. Yeah, like the civil war.
Oh, I mean civil war. I mean, I’m the same. Also when you said that he always wanted a revolution, what do you mean by that? He wrote the book. He wrote the book about the revolution. No, so I mean, you know, it’s all. I mean, even if even four years ago, I mean, you know, when the World Economic Forum came out, I mean, it was clear that this is also, if you follow this World Economic Forum, the United nations guy and so on, I mean, then this is the end of the nation state anyway, so. And now basically you just have to make sure that the people are going to start fighting each other in the future.
And that will be the left and the right in France, but there will also be the migrants against, you know, the french people and so on. So the homosexuals against the heterosexuals, you know, whatever. I mean, it’s all these political defined. But Joe, identity groups, I mean, they are just the haters is getting bigger because everyone has less and you can feel it. People are not happy. And when they are not happy and when they don’t have perspectives, then they basically turn towards violence and I think this is what we’re going to see. Maybe already, starting this summer with the 33rd Olympic Games in France, it will be.
I mean, definitely it’s an interesting time. I mean, and as we all know, I mean, you know, we are really now back in central planning. I mean, it’s really, the government is responsible to plan the economy. I mean, they have their. It’s not an invisible hand, you know, it’s very heavy handed government hand. And so we all know that whenever government is involved, there is a misallocation of goods and services and that it’s going to lead to the impoverishment of the people. And I think maybe we have a few years until we’re going to reach the highest point in the crisis.
Maybe by 2030, like the UN is promoting it, for example, or the World Economic Forum, you owe nothing and you’ll be happy. But I think that the coming years are definitely going to be even much more, even more volatile than the last few years that we have witnessed. And we can, and we have seen how fast the world can change within a week. That’s what we have seen when Corona hit, at least in the media. And then the politicians shut down the whole world on a global scale, so everything is possible. And if the people take it and agree with it and don’t raise their voice and say, this is not right, this is wrong, then they will just go on with the next mopichowa or the next act in this global theater.
That’s a bit my understanding. So you mentioned the Olympics this summer in France. Did you think there is going to be some type of an event? Do you think they’re going to stage something during the Olympics? I mean, everything is possible. I know we hear over here they are basically saying that the Russians are sponsoring terrorism in Europe. So maybe when you have Olympics, even if the french secret service has to organize the terror attacks themselves, why not? I mean, these guys in power, I mean, really, the ruling system, I think they are clearly social pets.
I mean, it’s absurd. I mean, it’s so absurd what we are seeing, what we are hearing, what we are reading in the newspaper, what we are seeing on tv. So I really believe we can expect everything because, yeah, it’s nothing new. These are really social paths, the God chosen people. Or somehow they believe that they are chosen by God because they are much smarter than the others, or they are chosen by God as a population or as a nation or whatever. But I think these are the social paths which are in play and you cannot print.
I mean, it’s impossible to print wealth. You know, it’s really always about the scarcity of goods and services. And we can see the scarcity of goods and services getting bigger. And, you know, when you inject just more credit into the system, everything is just going. It’s becoming more expensive and inflation is not. It’s not that, you know, inflation is still there. And it’s interesting, you know, to see how also these stock markets all holding up. No, but when you look at the S and P 500, I think 60% of the performance is coming from Nvidia since the beginning of the year from one stock.
So, I mean, everything is completely manipulated and it can fall apart anytime. It doesn’t take that much. No one is in control. But I think, yeah, there must be a stock market correction. There must be another than QE, and then we’re going to see much higher inflation on the geopolitical level. Look at this moped show with Ukraine and Russia. Also the way they sell this Zelenskyy as the good guy and Putin is the evil guy. And we all know, everyone who’s interested in the conflict can see that this is just nonsense propaganda, completely. I always think what happened really during the second world war, when I can see what they are doing with the Iraq war and now we are doing with the Ukraine war, it is just pushing the people forward and pushing their agenda.
War is always a great business. You can make a fortune in a war. You can destroy a whole society. You can really do this kind of reset. And I think that’s the path we are on. So do you think that they, I’m assuming World Economic Forum, the certain installed leaders, you think they are pushing for World War III with what’s happening out in Ukraine, with Russia? We see the Middle east is now blowing up with Israel, Iran, Palestine. Do you think their main mission right now is war? I mean, the newspapers are full with it. And when we listen how NATO is defining their position, I mean, NATO is really of the United States empire.
They are the big, they are the bully. The US is the bully on a global scale. And I think by now it’s obvious. 70 years ago people still thought, okay, now the us, that these are the good guys, the us government, I’m talking always about the government and about the people. But, yeah, I think because we can go back into history. I mean, 80 years back we had the second world war. 80 years back then we had the civil war in the United States. We had the big clashes in Europe between Prussia and France. 80 years back, you had the war of independence in the United States.
So every eight years we had the big economical crisis and we had big wars. And I think this time it’s, yeah, we, you know, as you said, the Middle East. I mean, I know Israel always wants to have a buffer zone, you know, from the israeli border up to the southern south of the litany river. So, I mean, so it’s just a matter of time until the Israelis are going to bomb southern Lebanon. And I also have still some friends on the ground in the Middle east. And they’re basically telling me for more than a year that also the UN money, the support money for the refugees on the spot on the ground, that also these funds have been cut in the past.
And that’s exactly the same as we have seen in 2015 before. Then another migration crisis was pushed heavily. So it’s possible that when these raids are going to bomb Lebanon, that the whole situation is going to escalate more and that we might see another mass migration stream coming into Europe. But at the end of the day, China is on. I mean, it’s really, the US is losing the empire and they are not willing to give it up for free and therefore they are just creating turmoils whenever they can. I think there is a big war coming.
I don’t believe it does not need to be a nuclear bomb because otherwise they should not have vaccinated all the people. Then it just takes the bomb. Okay. I mean, you can make money with the vaccines, of course. Well, I think a lot of money made with the vaccines. No, I think I see it more. I mean, I have another good friend of mine. He basically is in austrian altitude and he fled to Switzerland. And so he basically always told me, listen, Claudio, this is, you know, in the focus is the white, white man, the heterosexual, white, christian man, the western world, because we have been the last bastion in the fight against communism or collectivism.
It never worked. You know, we are the barbarians, whatever, you know, so it’s much more decentralized. Also the history we have everything from bottom up. And so I have the feeling, yeah, maybe, you know, the end game will be that we as whites are going to be, you know, hunted through the streets of the cities and so on, when all these different political pressure groups might, you know, lose. Yeah, no food. And the hatred is being pushed. I mean, I have good friends from the arab world and there are some great comedians, but I mean, there you can also see the narrative, you know, that the whites are the bad guys at the end of the day.
So it seems like it seems like they’re building a narrative. I mean, we see it here in the United States where they have tried to turn the black population on the white population. And I think we’re starting to see this throughout Europe, and they’re trying to bring in as many illegals into the country to maybe outnumber the white population in those countries to actually overrun them and take control. I mean, it’s like in the states, I mean, yeah, I think if you’re a refugee and if you sign up for the military, then you, I think you have to serve for a certain period, two years or so, and then you basically get also passport.
But that means, you know, if you, if you go for that kind of conscription service, I mean, then you are basically hiring mercenaries. I mean, they don’t, they don’t care if, if they have to go somewhere or if they have to take over a job within the United States, standing in front of a female camp or whatever. And then, and then you had this civil war Hollywood movie which came out this year. What kind of american are you? Have you seen, no, I have not seen it yet. I’ve seen the coming attractions. I’ve seen the coming attractions.
I haven’t seen the movie. When they’re saying, yeah, so, I mean, what, California, Florida and Texas on the one hand side against, you know, the rest. And, or even Biden in his speech, if the guys who follow Trump, if they want to fight against the government, are not happy with it, then they should be careful because we are going to send them the f 16. What shall I say? It’s just a terrible Muppet show. Do you think you hear Biden talking about the Trump supporters and how he can use the, you know, f 15 or f, there’s no reason to attack us because you won’t win.
Do you think the, the powers that be, like the World Economic Forum and the other installed individuals, do you think they, they’ve set this up where the people of every country will be fighting each other at the same time? You know, at the end of the day, for my understanding at least, I mean, of course, I always say I don’t know the truth. This is just my opinion based on the information. I truly believe, you know, an educated mind can entertain an idea without accepting it. But you also know we need to be humble enough. I mean, I don’t know the truth, you know, so, but I think it’s all about, I mean, we have club of Rome, you know, we have the United nations, we have all those key figures they’re promoting also, they’re saying, you know, we need, it’s all about population control and bringing down.
We have too many people living on this planet and so on. So I think at the end of the day, they just want to make sure that they’re going to kill as many people as possible because it fits with their darwinian Maltose. But what is the reason for killing off the population? I mean, what are they trying to do? Why don’t they want the number of people on the planet? Because, I mean, they believe, you know, we have, we don’t have enough resources and then you have this, the survival of the fittest. So, I mean, these are social paps.
I mean, they, I mean, they promote that we have, that we don’t, that if we, if we grow the same way, you know, that we’re going to have problems with food supply and all that stuff. But, I mean, this is Prince Charles, you know, and these guys, they are promoting that kind. They are saying we have too many people, so we have to bring it down because otherwise it creates a problem for the world and so on, which is, of course, absolutely nonsense. But, yeah, I mean, that’s how I understand, you know, those old institutions which are still in play and also have quite some influence, like the council of Foreign Relations and all these, I, you know, roundtable, build a birds and, you know, the wife and you name it.
I mean, it’s just evil, sick people. Sick. I mean, just sick guys completely change their mind if we have to depopulate. Do you think King Charles, Klaus Schwab and all the others, you think they will basically remove themselves from the planet first since we have to depopulate, right? I mean, they’re the ones who are mentioning it. Shouldn’t they go first? It’s like, it’s like, you know, it’s like Bill Gates is saying, yeah, we have Bill Gates, too. And he’s flying around in his private chat and have votes and whatever. I mean, they only want to limit the others, you know, definitely not themselves.
Right? So, yeah, some people are equal and more equal than others, and it’s a different class. You know, they see themselves as a different class. We are the master class and we are just the servants at the end of the day. So they’ll stay and they want everyone else to be killed or destroyed. I mean, I think that’s what they tried to do with the, I call it the plandemic with let’s talk about our health. It turns out the key to losing weight and keeping it off is not carbs or fat or even probiotic rich foods.
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The bioweapon, which is the vaccine, I think they try to remove many people using this or get them sick. So eventually they would die off. That was their main agenda there. Yeah, I mean, just, you know, it was a huge experiment. Still, nobody knows exactly what was in there. And you had different batches and now we can see that. Yeah. I mean, it’s, I mean, the level of cancer or myocarditis, you know, people breaking down or multisclerosae, you know, there are so many, it’s just exploding. It’s just, I mean, I know so many people who took the shot and, and they have health issues that they never had before that they never had before, that they never had before.
So, I mean, and they, I think, yeah, you know, I don’t know. Well, do they, do they, did those people that have the health issues, do they realize that it’s from the vaccine or they’re just saying it? No, it has nothing to do with the vaccine. I’m just becoming unhealthy. I mean, some who are, some people, of course they see it, you know, or they understand or they believe it’s from the vaccine. But I think that’s still a minority, you know, at least, you know, they don’t speak. I mean there’s no conversation still, you know, about the whole time.
So nobody wants to address the topic, you know, the anti vaccine or steal the crazy guys and so on. So people still don’t, you know, you have to talk on an individual level to find out if he had some health problems and if he links it up with the vaccine that he took, maybe two or three of them. But I think, yeah, it’s, you know, yeah, it always takes time. I mean, I think this wake up process will go on and more and more people will understand that, that they cannot lie any longer to themselves, that there is really something, I mean most of the people, I mean, also the atmosphere over here in Europe, I mean people are not that happy anymore.
Everyone understands that the world has changed. They don’t know exactly what’s coming, but they feel uncomfortable and at the same time they are scared when it comes to the future because the business is not going that well. So are they unhappy? Are they unhappy because the economy, that there’s too much inflation, their businesses aren’t doing well, happy because of the leadership also. I mean it’s a combination. I mean if they’re completely confused, but they understand that the economy, something is wrong and with the money something is wrong and with the politicians something wrong with the media, but they still cannot somehow define it and really try to analyze it to understand a bit, you know, the big picture.
They still have problems to link the different points up to get to realize a bit more of the big picture because still, I mean, yeah, I mean the key issue is that still a lot of people don’t want to think for themselves individually and that they don’t take time to look into certain topics and investigate a bit for themselves. The rather, now of course, it’s perfect. You know, we have the European Masters championship football, you know, so there is always enough distraction and then we have the Olympics coming up and so on. So, and, yeah, no, no, I think it’s, I mean, I have no, you know, I truly, that’s my, that’s my understanding when I also look into history.
It’s really, you know, they are driving down the system and you’re at the end game and it takes maybe two, three, four more years. But the trend is clear. It will lead to, I think it will become very upsetting. I mean, with the economy and people are unhappy with the economy. Do you think we’re going to see some, I mean, I think you mentioned in the very beginning some type of market downturn do you think the market’s going to come down this year? Because here, I’ll give an example here in the United States, the numbers that they’re putting out, like unemployment numbers, inflation numbers, GDP numbers, they’re all manipulated.
Everything is completely and utterly manipulated. And the inflation that people are seeing here in the states, it’s cumulative. It doesn’t go away. I mean, you can bring inflation to 0%, but the prices of the products, they’re not going to go back to 1970. It’s here to stay. So with the inflation numbers, when they say 2% or 4% or 1%, it just slows the amount of inflation that you’re seeing because it’s cumulative. So here the numbers are all manipulated. Everything is not what theyre actually saying out in Europe. Im assuming its the same thing out there. And if people are worried about the economy, do you see the economy coming down this year because of what is happening? In 2000, we had a situation with the new economy where we basically also had, at the end of the bubble, we had the bubble within the bubble.
You had certain tech companies which were just going up in prices exponentially. And I think we are witnessing the same today again, because as I said, the S and P 500, you have the big seven dysfunction titles, which are the major driver for the whole S and P 500. Just six, seven companies. So it’s all manipulated. And what I heard from some friends of mine who are more in the monetary managing system, they are telling me that big institutional customers in the past, they maybe had portfolios of x amount of stocks to really divert it, diversify the risk and so on.
And now sometime they hold maybe eight to ten stocks. And that’s all the new big tech sheet because you need to be in there if you want to perform like the others. And as long as the party is ongoing, it’s okay. I mean, interest rates went up, but I think there is still a lot of liquidity in the system. And of course a lot of liquidity is also driven by political, through political influence. But I mean, this is just artificial. That’s just artificial. It’s just once the stock market or even the real estate market, once it’s going to break, then it can go quick and then we might see a 40% correction.
Until then the central banks will restart printing and then printing basically, and everything is going up again. But of course inflation will just then hit big time and that will be then the end of the game. When do you think the market will come down? When you say 40% correction, are you thinking this year, two years, three years, ten years? It’s hard because even now when you look at the whole stock market, who owns the stock market? Who is invested there? We have some big players which have huge impact on the stock market. They create the stock market, then you have the central banks.
So it’s hard. I mean, I would have expected a stock market crash already last year, but nothing happened. Everything went on. But the question is not that if it’s going to happen, it’s just when it’s going to happen. But I think we peaked everywhere and we’ll see what this summer will bring. Usually we have seen also in 2008, it starts in the summer or maybe we have to wait another year. But at the end of the day it’s really, I mean, you know, it’s a scarcity of goods and services. That’s what it’s all about. And there we are doing a very bad job already for many years.
And everything takes time until it’s really going to hit. And then of course, when you bring in, when you bring in millions of refugees, of course, I think even New York, they’re spending 1 billion on hotel accommodation in New York, for example, on an annual basis. So that’s also money which going into the system. And so they can, you know, as long as they find a way somehow to expand the credit, they can always prolong it a bit. But once, you know, it’s impossible because everyone is completely full or doesn’t want to have more credit and so on or there’s no, no market where you can increase, you know, the credit.
I mean, then it’s going to break. And this, nobody can, nobody can tell you when it’s coming. But I think we are closer to that point than we have been a year or two ago. You know what I find very interesting is that last year or a couple of years ago, people really didn’t buy gold the way they’re buying it today in the States. I mean, Costco, this warehouse place, they’re selling gold bars now. I don’t mean big gold bars, I mean the little 1oz gold bars. And people are purchasing, they can’t even hold on to them.
So I find that very interesting that people are going to, you know, like a warehouse and, you know, they have other products, they’re food and they’re purchasing, they’re picking up 1oz gold and Costco saying that they’re going to be doing over $200 million worth of sales. So it’s very interesting that people now are turning to gold. And I’ve never seen this before. I’ve never seen people go out and purchase gold like they’re purchasing today. So are people. I mean, I’m asking you, do you think people are getting nervous with the inflation, getting nervous that the pieces of paper or the blips on the computer, they’re going to be worth nothing as time goes on? And is this why they’re purchasing these little 1oz gold bars? And actually I think they’re from Switzerland.
Actually, I think they’re the swiss 1oz bars. I mean, overall, I mean, when you look at the west, I mean, I think, you know, family offices or, and also investors, they own more cryptocurrencies than physical gold because they are indebted. They have a short time preference. They want to make money now, so they want to speculate. It’s really when we look at the gold, the gold price also, the way it has been, I mean it performed extremely well even with high interest rates, which is completely against the trend. But it just shows that, that the market has been separating from the west.
Gold basically went up in prices because of the rest of the world and not because of the west. Because central banks have been buying gold. Then we have all the emerging countries which used to contribute roughly 16 18% to the world gdp in 2000. Today they are contributing roughly 50%. So I mean, they’re selling their us treasuries and they are buying gold instead. And that’s really the driver we can see for the gold price in the west, as I said, I mean, I have the feeling, yeah, the west is so much, it’s full. You know, it’s just about paper.
It’s all about this artificial paper wealth. It’s a culture of heavily speculation that they believe the show must go on always. And I rather buy something which is more speculative but might create returns in 1000 2000% like this Nvidia and Tesla and gold takes a bit for them. It’s too old. They really lost the connection somehow. But yeah, I think gold is, I mean, I always had a good years because I don’t have the classic retail customers and I have more people with their wealthier and they understand geopolitics and they want to really allocate a bigger portion of their wealth into physical precious metals as their insurance, as their hedge against all this.
I mean, because the biggest risk is the banking system. Whatever is in this banking system is basically at risk. And so they just, they understand that they need a certain hedge against it. But as I said, you know, the normal people, the retail customer they’re just gone. They don’t exist any longer. So I can only say if people don’t. I mean, gold is definitely. I think gold is going to be one of these trades this time, you know, a trade in the century. Because. Yeah, I mean, it has been money for 5000 years. It’s not written on a piece of paper, because on a piece of paper you can write a lot of stuff, but you find gold coins.
They are thousands of years old. It has this history of money. It’s your own property. There is no counterparty risk. You own it. It’s scars, it’s precious, it’s divisible. So it’s the highest form of a currency. This is hard money. And all the rest basically is really credit. So therefore I expect gold going 15 factor 15 or 17 in the next two, three years. You’re saying like 15,000, 17,000 announced it could easily. I mean, because, you know, doesn’t. I mean, the world is dividing again. I mean, so in the nineties, the world came together. You know, the US were able to basically start this credit archie, filling up everyone with us dollar credit, and now the world is dividing again.
So if a credit system cannot grow, then it’s going to collapse. Therefore, all these great nodes, fiat currencies, they are just going to be depreciated. They are just going back to their intrinsic zero value, which basically is zero. Like it happened always in the past. It’s nothing new, right? It looks like the BRIC nations, like Russia, China and many other nations, it looks like India, they’re going back to their national currencies. They’re trading in their national currencies. So it looks like they understand that something is coming their way. And yes, India has been ramping up on their gold purchases.
China’s been ramping up on their gold purchases. So it seems that they understand that something is happening. And it looks like they’re moving away from the Federal Reserve note and they’re. Yeah, because. Yeah, because the dollar became a political weapon for many, many decades already. If the US government doesn’t agree with you, they seize your assets, they freeze it, they do whatever they want, they kick you out of the swift system and they replace your leadership, whatever. And I think a lot of these emerging countries, they realize that. I don’t know if China is the better option, to be honest.
I don’t trust Putin, nor do I trust the Chinese. The Americans government, I think they’re all. But that’s. I think the countries in the east, they feel a bit more comfortable with the BRICS and with this alternative payment system. And they just want to get away from the us influence and that’s a trend. Do you think they will be allowed to do that? Because most of the time the deep state, the central bankers, they don’t like anyone leaving their system. Yeah, like we have seen with Qaddafi or with Iraq, with Saddam. But I think now it’s just too big.
I mean, it’s really, more than 50% of the world is BRICS. It depends a little bit how you look at economical or population, whatever, but I think now it’s too big. I mean, it’s really the east versus the West. I mean, it’s this old, it’s the old half of Mackintosh doctrine. You have to separate Europe and Asia, separate the Russians from the Germans, because otherwise the Brits would have lost their empire. And the same goes for the Americans. And it’s the old game. And these are the old ideas promoted by these old politicians. Look at the guys when they give their presidential talks.
They don’t even know what they’re talking. So it’s, yeah, it’s a, it’s a show. I mean, it’s really, that’s why I don’t understand. You know, a lot of people still believe that this is sound and it makes sense that they’re watching tv and they believe, okay, by it said something very good, or Trump. I mean, it’s everyone that has seen, you know, this last presidential debate, I mean, it’s, it’s a shame, you know, it’s, it’s a joke. I mean, this is, you can, you can play it at 06:00 in the morning, you know. No, I mean, it will be a bad influence for the little, for the little kids, of course, but it’s an opportunity.
So it’s absurd and I cannot take it any longer. I just wait, I just prepare and I think for myself. And I want to leave this system as much as possible. I want to take out my money. I don’t want to finance these tech companies who are basically enslaving us with their central banking, digital coin, or total surveillance, sensorization and all that crap. So I just do the opposite and I feel much more comfortable. And at the same time, I can see that the strategy is working out. I think gold since 2000 performed better than the s and P 500 at the end of the day.
So you don’t need to take risk and to speculate and so on. You can also just accumulate some gold, put it on the side, wait in the time you need it. It will be there and then it will be. Yeah, you can restart. You really can restart out of this crisis, of this catharsis. It will be harsh. When you say you’re waiting and you’re preparing, what are you exactly waiting for? I mean, it’s a combination of civil riots and of course, also small scale wars, certain nations against others. I see it more in that way. I don’t believe big nuclear attacks and the really big war in Europe.
I think it’s just going to be a huge crisis per month. We’re going to see food shortages once the grocery stores are empty. I think we’re going that direction. Then you’re going to have these lockdowns and you have the police taking over. All these cities will become cities of oppression, of total surveillance. And when they lock you away, maybe then you have to download the app to get the central bank digital coin, the universal basic income and all that crap. And I just don’t want to, I mean, I don’t want to be part of that site.
So that’s why I just, you know, yeah, I take out my money out of the system. I put it in fiscal gold and silver. I’m living on the countryside. I have another plan b, which is a bit more up in the mountains where we already have gathered like minded individuals, and then we will take it from there, you know, but at least we have a safe spot, easy to control. It’s hard to get access to it. It’s a very narrow road. It’s hard. You can easily block it and so on. So I just want to make sure that, you know, when, when the civil unrest starts down here, that I’m not in the middle of those two fractions.
I just say, okay, so you’re preparing. You’re preparing for the, like, the worst case scenario. Yeah. And I’m doing that for four years. I mean, okay, but as I said, you know, I mean, this, we never know how fast it’s going to happen, but I think people need to be awake. And the biggest threat is always a situation you cannot imagine because you never experienced it in your lifetime. So I personally also, I’ve never experienced a global world economic crisis. I never experienced a war in front of my house door. So for me, that’s also something new.
So I just have to think about how I can imagine the world never experienced a pandemic like we’ve, we’ve just had. I mean, I don’t personally believe it was a pandemic, but no one ever experienced every business shut down everything completely, you know, brought to a screeching halt, and you weren’t allowed to leave your house and you weren’t allowed to travel. That was the first time the entire world experienced that. And actually, if you told people two years or three years before that was coming, I think they would laugh at you. Because if, if I told you, hey, Claudio, by the way, in 2020, you’re not going to be able to leave your house.
You have to wear a mask, the entire economic system will be shut down and there’ll be a virus that was out there allegedly killing people. You would look at me, you know, back in 20, 1720, and you would say, that’s ridiculous, that I won’t be able to leave my house, I won’t be able to travel, everything will be shut down worldwide. It sounds funny, it doesn’t sound real, but now we’ve all experienced it, so what you’re saying is not that far fetched. If. If things start to break down and we see civilization, war, I mean, we’re already starting to see people in the streets destroying buildings, just hurting people, setting fire in the streets.
And I think we’re already starting to see this. So I don’t think that it’s too outrageous that we most likely will see something like that. Yeah, I think for me as well, what happened with Corona, the government, basically, he took rights he never had. Right. And I always said, yeah, if you are not allowed to command over our own body and mind, I mean, then we don’t, then there is no private property. And if there is no private property, there is no liberty and no freedom. And this is exactly what happened with Corona. And therefore. Yeah, so this is not, you know, we have the spanish flu, first World War.
Right. Also the mask and all that stuff. So I think we can see a lot of patterns. But at the end of the day, what we definitely can see is that, I mean, even now, the governments, they’re doing what they want. They don’t care about the people any longer. The politicians, they believe that they are superior and they just have to be strong leaders now. And of course, at the same time, politics always attracts the big strokes. Everyone that is not capable of performing in the private economy is going into politics. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, it’s no, I think it’s really.
I mean, there is no recovery coming. No, it’s not going to be better in two years or so. I think it’s definitely going to be the opposite. We have to go. I mean, they want to, you have to destroy an old system to create a new one. And so even when you look back into history, you know, I mean, it has been much more decentralized, like in the states or else in Europe has been extremely decentralized, even during the monarchs, the aristocratic system. And then with every push, it has always been a push towards more centralization into these nation states, socialism, fascism and all that crap.
Central banking that become more important and I think now they just try would be decentral banking, digital coin, which is an additional centralization in the monetary system. So it’s just going further. It’s too big to fails. The big multinationals, they also profited during corona. They were allowed to keep the business open and so on. So this is the trend, and this trend is, is going up for a certain period, and one time it’s just going to end and then the system will break apart and what the outcome will be, we don’t know, but we just have to make sure that we can survive this transition period that we are in right now.
Hey, Claudio, thank you very much for being on the x 22 report spotlight once again. If people want to see your work, where should they go? They basically can go to cloudyourgrass ch and so, I mean, yeah, whoever is interested in buying physical precious metals, really for a harsh crisis scenario, which is not part. So that is also there when the banks are closing down and so on, so that the property rights are clearly defined, which is a problem these days. So I think, you know, I can help them to find the best solution. And what we’re also doing is we founded the company and now we are really getting closer to be able in the future to digitalize physical gold, or at least a property title for physical gold, which then also will be physically stored in Switzerland.
And you can use that gold token. I mean, the aim is that you can walk into a precious metal dealer shop anywhere on this planet, and you walk in with this gold token and you can redeem into coins and bars, whatever. Oh, wow. So we want to solve the transportability problem, and we want also to empower the individual and allow individuals to profit. Today you have to pay $2,500 for a trigger rant. So the entry level to own physical gold is pretty high. And we just want to create a product which is definitely physically backed by gold.
It’s real, it’s outside the banking system, stored, but you can also do it with 100 egyptian pounds, always $50, $50. But then you will always be sure that you have something in gold and already have it in silver, and that you also have an easy way then to redeem. If you ever want to redeem it physically. Great. I’ll put all the links at the bottom of the video. Claudio, once again, thank you very much for being on the spotlight. I really appreciate it. Always a pleasure. Thank you so much for the invitation, Dave. Thank you. It.
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