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Summary
➡ The text discusses a conspiracy theory about a plane that disappeared, suggesting it was a cover-up. The plane had important passengers, including 20 engineers and scientists from a company that makes microchips for the U.S. defense. The theory suggests that the plane might have been targeted for espionage or to prevent the passengers from defecting. The author believes that advanced technology, possibly teleportation, was used to make the plane disappear, and that this was a message to adversaries about the capabilities of the U.S.
➡ The text discusses a video showing a plane and orbs, possibly using anti-gravitational technology. The video, which is believed to be real, shows the orbs circling the plane before collapsing together, possibly creating a portal. The text suggests this could be related to patents held by the Navy and a man named Salvatore Pais. The video’s authenticity is supported by details such as a mouse cursor changing color over different parts of the screen and the presence of two satellites overhead during the event.
➡ The text discusses a mysterious event where a plane seemingly disappears, possibly due to a black hole or wormhole. The speaker suggests that this could be a form of teleportation or the plane being sucked into another plane of existence. They speculate that the plane may have reappeared near the Maldives and then flown to a secret U.S. military base. The speaker also suggests that this event could be evidence of hidden technologies such as cold fusion and free energy.
➡ The speaker discusses the potential of anti-gravity technology, suggesting it could be a game-changer if possessed by countries like China. They also mention a controversial figure, Sean Ryan, who they believe is sharing genuine information despite facing criticism. The speaker expresses concern about the potential misuse of this technology, fearing it could lead to catastrophic consequences. They also speculate that the technology’s existence can’t be hidden much longer as more people are starting to understand its principles.
➡ The text discusses the concept of zero point energy and the possibility of China having developed this technology. It suggests that drones might be used to demonstrate this power, leading to speculation about alien activity. The text also delves into theories about quantum entanglement and teleportation, suggesting that these could be used in advanced technology. Finally, it questions the truthfulness of government officials and their potential knowledge of these developments.
➡ The text discusses the importance of interviewing engineers and scientists who have worked on secret projects, rather than focusing on military whistleblowers. It suggests that these individuals may have knowledge about advanced technologies, such as Zero Point Energy devices. The speaker also discusses his efforts to convince people that these technologies are real, despite skepticism and debunking attempts. He suggests that the alien narrative may be used to cover up human technological advancements, and that the discovery of such technologies could drastically change our world.
➡ The text discusses how the government can manipulate public perception and cover up significant events, using the example of the MH370 crash. It suggests that this manipulation is so subtle and pervasive that most people don’t realize it’s happening. The text also introduces Ashton, who can be found on various social media platforms under the handle “Just X, Ashton”.
Transcript
Ashton, thank you so much for joining me, man. It’s a pleasure. Thank you, Nino, for having me. Brother, I can’t wait to talk about this with you. Yeah, this is just, you know, I remember the Malaysia Airlines. How long ago was that? Like about five years ago? Ten years. Ten years ago or. Okay, years ago, and this plane’s still missing today. Like, they searched for this thing twice. They’re searching again right now, supposedly in a spot where they say it’s highly credible. I mean, if I’m right, they’re gonna find nothing again. And. Okay, so. So let me ask you this.
What’s the story. What’s the. What’s the story they put out there for msm? There isn’t really an official story. If you go read the official page and the official reports have come out that they. The plane just disappeared. And the reason why they can’t say the plane crashed is that Boeing would be responsible if the plane crashed. And so it’s all about who’s going to take the hit for all of this in terms of a liability perspective. So they just say they don’t know. The prevailing narrative that’s out there, which is not from any official reports, is that this pilot.
But if you actually look, there’s no real hard evidence highlight, like, he checked out from every perspective, everybody supported him. Officials say it wasn’t something they think he could have done. And it’s not clear if it was even something that can, you know, actually be done to turn a plane off with just one person as well. But it disappeared off the radar, Everything. Correct? Yeah. Just completely went dark. And the more I thought about that, I’m like, how does that even make sense? Like, radar is shooting beams of information, like, at objects, and then they’re bouncing back.
So how exactly would you be able to turn that off from the inside of the airplane? Like, they just say it’s, oh, it’s connected to this, a car system that was turned off. So anyway, the narrative though is that this plane goes dark. And then this is the part that we didn’t realize for a while was that this plane then turned back around and went back over Malaysia. And you’re like, wait, what? But if you look at the flight path, it goes directly to the nearest airport that was still active. That would been like, you know, people would have been there.
So you’re thinking, oh, well, they’re trying to go land, it’s an emergency, but then they go fly over it, they don’t land. So we need a story that connects all this information. And then it, it takes this weird turn back north towards the Nicobar Islands and then they lose it, supposedly on military radar. But we know this is a lie because there’s at least five other radars from three different countries in range. I’ll say that again, five different radars from three different countries are still in range in the Nicobar Islands, in this Malacca Straits, Andaman Sea area outside of Thailand.
So you’re like, okay, wait, what, so how do we lose it? And then the only information that’s made publicly available is that they’re these satellite pings from a United States intelligence controlled company named Inmarsat, based out of the uk. If you look at their board of directors, there’s a bunch of military navy admirals and generals and stuff like that on their, on their board and they say, oh well, don’t worry guys, we heard some pings from this thing. And so they released the pings to the public and there’s all these sketchy statements about the pings are fine as long as nobody hacked them.
You’re like, wait, why do you add that thing about nobody spoofing these pings or faking these pings? And then bloggers based on the Internet just like come up with some model to like based on the speed of light, like touching these satellites. Okay, we can figure out where the plane generally might be. And they say, okay, this shows the plane went in the South Indian Ocean. You’re going, wait, South Indian Ocean? Now you just had me over Malaysia. And now you’re like, oh, it went down here in the South Indian Ocean in the middle of nowhere.
And this is what United States intelligence sources push to the media. So we search down there, search and search and search. Nothing. Finally, debris washes ashore in Africa over a year later. A few tiny pieces of debris include one 6 foot, 7 foot long flap from one of the wings, which may seem large, but those wings are over 100ft long. So it’s only one tiny part of one wing. The problem is it’s in the wrong continent. All these arcs and satellite pings say that this plane should have crashed in the South Indian Ocean and the currents flow to the east.
We would expect it. And they did debris analysis or drift analysis before they found any debris. It showed all this debris should have washed ashore in Australia. Nothing ever to date has ever washed ashore in Australia. The other big thing that people need to realize is that a plane the size A Boeing Triple 7 is one of the biggest planes in the fleet, Next to like a 747. These are the biggest planes. I have a plane that size crashing into the ocean. A huge percentage of the plane floats. The plastic, the cushions, the luggage. If this plane were to crack open, there should be thousands of pieces of debris.
And there is no chance that this plane could make a smooth landing on the ocean. Unless somehow the middle of the Indian Ocean was, like, perfectly flat. But when you have these waves, like when you try to land a plane of that size, it’s going to crack in half and it’s going to break into a million pieces. The last thing I want people to understand is that we know 100% that the United States military knows what happened to this plane, because we researched all the satellite systems. Like, how does our surveillance systems work? And it’s so far more beyond advanced than what the public understands.
We basically have full motion video coverage of the entire planet even in 2014. Now they definitely do. And they. What they do is they have their satellites spinning around the planet, like, very quickly, but they’re all connected to one another, so they get persistent surveillance. Even though these satellites are spinning super fast, they have enough of them that they just have permanent coverage, essentially. They used to just have, like, hot spots where they, like, didn’t have very good coverage, but now they have everything. So if there was a plane that crashes in the ocean for at least several days, the debris is going to be scattered around a huge field, and it would be visible from outer space.
Easily visible from outer space. But no country’s ever said anything about that. Not the United States, not Russia, not China. I would think multiple countries would have seen the debris field. This is why there was most likely this weird kind of political thing happening behind the scenes where all the countries knew, they probably knew who did it. And they, like, you know, they’re shimmying for, you know, political kind of control over the narrative of what was going to happen. But if it’s the United States that did it, then they’re gonna have complete control over the narrative.
So those are some of the most important facts that people need to understand even before we look at the videos, is that this, there’s no doubt there was a cover up at play here. A Boeing 777 can’t just disappear. It can’t just vanish. And we know the United States, we know not just with the satellite system that they have, but they also have an acoustic system called sosis, the sound surveillance system. The Navy runs it. This is the one that heard that Titan sub implode next to the Titanic that would have heard a Boeing Triple 7 crashing into the ocean.
The acoustic detections from that people actually showed that there were several hydrophones that also should have shown it. Actually. A Cardiff University peer reviewed paper, I mind you, says that there was at least two hydrophones that were between, you know, 1,000, 3,000 miles away or not even that far, kilometers and they would have both heard this and they didn’t find any consistent detections with it. So no sound of the plane hitting the ocean. So we, we know that they know something. And then you add up all my FOIA requests, which I probably got like, I don’t know, I’ve got like a stack right here.
These are like just ones from for example. Right. You can see the old, right at the top. All of them are being rejected for interest of national security, national defense, foreign policy or covert operations. Like there you go. I mean, I don’t know what more people want on that front. So you know, then go ahead. So this, this kind of takes me into some very different directions, one being 9 11. But I know I don’t, I don’t want to talk about that on Fluff Tube. I’m sure you have a lot you could speak out about on that, but I, I, my mind automatically just went there.
Right. Also, who was on board this flight that would have, that they would have interest in downing this flight? Do we have, do we know like if there was any. There was some important people on this flight. Correct? Yeah. So now it’s like, okay, well we know there was a cover up. We haven’t even looked at the videos yet. We don’t even need that at this point. Which is what was so crazy when I started researching the plane because I’m like, oh man, like there’s definitely a cover up here. And I’m not even really a big conspiracy guy actually.
So I don’t really have too much to say even about 911. Or any other conspiracies that are out. This is the one that kind of woke me up. And boy, is it a doozy because it’s like, oh well, this wasn’t some like low rent, like hijacking of like people, the guys with box cutters. That’s not what we’re talking about here. We’re talking like this was a state sponsored operation to hide like this. Whatever we were doing in this plane and potentially the technology we were, we were using on it. It starts to get darker than that.
So you start to look at who’s on this plane and the people that stick out right away are the free scale semiconductor engineers and scientists who are on board this plane. 20 of them from the American company that’s connected to US aerospace and defense, building powerful microchips for the United States defense. And you’re like, oh, wow. And in 2014, people were like, people were in the know, like we’re talking about this because they knew, like this is the motive for sure. But rest of the public didn’t really understand it. Like semiconductors, what are those? What does that mean? Well, basically it means microchips.
And microchips are the future of everything. It’s also the future of super advanced exotic technology as well. The reason being that they’re basically finding ways to manipulate gravity. And by doing that, they have to manipulate this zero point energy field at the smallest possible scales, which microchips. That’s what microchips do. They might then they interact at the smallest possible scales. So there’s 20 of these people on board the plane. If their company should have had some Red flag thing, trigger and say like, this is too many people. You can’t have 20 people on board this plane.
The company even admitted they were very important people. And no, these weren’t like the CXOs. These were like the engineers and the people that like actually have property. Yeah, the brains. So now you’re realizing like, oh, wow, well, is this like an espionage event? Is China stealing these people? Because it turns out eight of them are Chinese nationals and they work for the American company, Connected the air, American Aerospace and defense. The other 12 are Malaysian, which who knows that it could be of Chinese, you know, ancestry. Hard to say. A lot of people in Malaysia are.
So, you know, maybe they’re trying to defect or take these people and then now America is preventing that from happening because those people have it. Or maybe there’s cargo on board the plane or some combination of both. And then it’s like, okay, why would you do what we see in the videos. Why are you going to do some super weapon on it? Why not just shoot out of the sky with a missile? Well, shoot out of. Scout the missile leaves evidence behind. You know, you zap it out and they’re no use to whoever took this plane and took the passengers on it.
Yeah. And if you’re trying to save the passengers, whoever did this took the passengers, obviously. And that’s another element to it, is that. And you know, when we look at these videos here, I’ll go over my theories, but, you know, I think that we have teleportation technology. And I’m not the kind of guy, like, I would only say that if I truly believed it. If I had any easier answer for you, like, we have cloaking technology, I would be like, okay, we have cloaking because it’s easier to accept. But I actually legitimately think we’ve figured out literal teleportation technology which then broaches on the side of like, oh, okay, well, that is big enough that you would, you know, take action on a civilian airliner to prevent China from getting that, if that’s what’s really at stake.
Like teleportation technology. It’s like, oh, okay, now I see why you would do a black operation on this airplane to prevent China from doing that. And then it also gives us a motive for, why are you using this technology? Well, you’re sending them a message. You’re saying, well, not only am I, because you could just missle it out of the sky and say, whoops, we accidentally pressed the wrong button. Didn’t mean to do that. That’s going to become a whole political scene. Right. The real play is you do something to the plane where nobody can ever prove it was you.
And at the same time, you send a message to your adversaries that we have some shit that you can’t do anything about. And next, every time you get on the plane, we want you thinking about what happened to that plane that just vanished out of nowhere. And can they do that to my plane? Because the answer is, yes, they can. So scary, man. Right? So now it’s like, okay, and that’s the thing where I didn’t want to believe that narrative at first. If you go back to my old interviews, I would be like, oh, they were trying to save the plane.
It was on fire. There’s this clear emergency event based on the flight path, the witnesses and all this stuff. But then you get to the end of the flight path and you’re like, wait, that’s where These videos happen. And you’re like, oh, oh, boy. And then everybody would always yell, me, there’s no way America would, you know, deploy some orbs to save the plane. And I’m like. And I kind of agree and like, yeah. So then you get to a point where it’s like, well, I mean, I’m down to believe whatever narrative people want to believe that fits with the facts.
But what’s happened today is people have thrown out all the evidence. They don’t. Like, like 20 witnesses that all corroborate a fire. Lithium ion batteries in the hold that indicate a fire, two videos that are milit. Leaked military videos and perfect synchronization. And this is like, what do people expect when we watch these videos here? In a second, I want people to think like, when you imagine UFO disclosure, do you think it’s going to come from some government agent that’s going to be like, hey, so here’s the truce now. Finally, you know, we’ve been doing this evil stuff and, you know, scientists and stuff like that to maintain the superior.
Do you really think that that’s what they’re going to say and that, oh, yeah, by the way, we have this crazy advanced technology. We just didn’t feel like you were deserving of it. No, that’s never going to happen. There’s never going to be a leak like these videos through official channels. It’s the amount of liability. Like if we actually disappeared an airplane and we actually have some crazy technology that would just reshape our planet. The liability from something like that is through the roof. The only way that stuff gets leaked is that it gets leaked anonymously on the Internet.
And that’s what I think is going to be so crazy about these videos. Go ahead. Do these videos that you’re going to show right now show the plane disappearing, or does it just show the orbs around it? Oh, it shows everything. Here we go. Really? Let’s get into this. Okay. Oh, yeah, and you can see the coordinates in the bottom left. And you can see there’s. And where is this? Where are the. Okay, the coordinates. Where would this be? Right here. So this is the Nicobar Islands, those coordinates. There’s a real witness, Catherine T. Who saw the plane flying low, glowing orange with smoke coming out of the back of it, consistent with this.
She was only about 100 miles or less away from these coordinates we see. And those coordinates aren’t necessarily of the plane. Those coordinates are some screen. They’re moving around behind the scenes. This is military wide area motion imagery. Whammy footage. So this is actually a computer generated tracking system they have that pulls data from multiple systems simultaneously and then builds this like basically computer program. And then they can open these windows up, which is what we’re seeing recorded here. And they can, in this case, they screen recorded the window. And so they’re looking at a bigger field of view on the behind.
Oh my gosh. It just disappeared right there, bro. Yeah. So watch again because watch the flash. The zap here illuminates the clouds. It reflects off these clouds. This is like one of the smallest details that goes to show what we’re looking at here is real. This is real three dimensional accurate lighting. This isn’t somebody just like put a flash on the screen using some animation. And this is the part two that also shows like we’re not looking at like a two dimensional picture of clouds. Like these are real three dimensional clouds that we’re looking at here as well.
So this is what, right away one of those details that goes, oh boy, this would be really hard to fake. And then keep in mind there’s two videos. This is just one of the two videos. I’m blown away right now, man. That is insanity. That what? I just see this cursor. You see this cursor come on screen right here. Yes. Like what fake videos ever had something like that? There’s no fake videos with like random mouse cursor. And the cursor changes color when it goes over the clouds versus the background based on if it’s like darker or lighter as well.
It’s wild. When it’s over the clouds, it goes to full black right here. It’s like gray in the bottom left here. Yeah, it goes black when it goes over the clouds right here, like right there. And then it goes to the top right screen. They turn off the recording or. No, they don’t turn off the recording, they just close the window. They close the window and it’s still recording. This is the original video. It’s just black for like another minute. And we wondered why that was. But after we figured out that this is whammy footage and that this is a window that’s like a pop up and then in the background they have the bigger field of view, we realized, oh, they were doing a window recording.
They recorded the window. That’s why the mouse cursor when it comes on the screen gets caught in the recording. They were recording that window and then they went and they go and close the window, but it’s still recording. So it’s just recording all black, right. Why would you include that in your hoax video? But the coordinates are probably the biggest thing. Crazy. So let me show you one other thing before I show you the second video is that we also found this satellite system called USA229. This is a dual pair of satellites. This is the real time at the top of the screen.
That blob is, I think, I don’t know, a couple hundred miles or something like that. That’s the coordinates of the video. And this is the real time. We think the videos happened right about now, maybe about here. So we have these two satellites staring right down. These are US Controlled. They’re called NAS Naval Ocean Surveillance Satellites. There was two satellites right over the disappearance right of the location. So when they’re trying to say, like, we don’t know what happened to the plane, like, this is the moment where they. Where we think the videos are happening, which is like 20 minutes after they.
They lost radar, like, permanently lost radar contact. Okay. And I’m going, okay, well, this shows they. I mean, they had. What are these satellites doing if they’re not tracking things? Look at these two satellites right next to each other, just chilling here. And originally, the original version of the video is 3D. It’s actual literal 3D. Like, here it is, it’s side by side. And when you can, like, combine it and you could wear, like, the 3D glasses and you could watch this. So people thought. I mean, we thought when we saw this, we’re like, oh, it’s 3D.
We thought, okay, well, here’s two satellites that could create a 3D video right here. Like, there you go. But then we realized it’s even more complicated than that. And it’s like they could be using data from these satellites and from airplanes, like high altitude airplanes and from drones, all at the same time, feeding the computer system to produce what we see here as wide aerial surveillance. So when people say, like, why is this color all the way that it is. Well, this is nighttime. And this is all just like. They can manipulate any aspect of the video they want because it’s computer generated.
And they’re just pulling data from whatever assets are in the area to be able to track objects like planes and probably boats. We’re looking down at the ocean here. People don’t even realize that what we’re looking at here are these orbs that are flying around it. The big question is, are they alien or are they ours? Yeah. And I think that we’ve been conditioned by these, I will call it psyops to Imagine that anything we don’t understand must be aliens. I think that’s what they’ve tried to tell us. But when you really boil this down, this is just anti gravitic technology and we can manipulate gravity.
That’s what this means. Even if this was aliens, this means we can manipulate gravity. Would mean we just don’t understand yet from the public perspective. But the more I started digging into these orbs and this gravity technology because the next step was, okay, now you figured out the planes. Like, how does this technology exist? I realized that, okay, this is connected to a guy named Salvatore Paisley. He’s got these Navy patents. This might even be a Navy operation. And this technology has been out there. We’ve got Navy patents that explain all the technology we’re seeing in these videos.
And then I talked to Salvatore Pais, and he’s like, weirdly enthusiastic about this. And he told me when he watched this video right here, right this part, he said he knew what these orbs were doing to the plane, and he knew what was about to happen next, which was transport. He knew they were about to zap the plane into a wormhole or a black hole, whatever you’re going to see. This video is the one that tells us how the physics works. I can’t even believe a video like this exists, like, exists at all, because we can see these dark lines in front of the orbs.
You can still see them right now if you look very closely. And the heat signatures of these orbs basically prove that cold fusion is real. So they’re circling the plane to create this portal. Yeah, they’re. I mean, I don’t know if it’s the circling part that’s doing it. What you’re going to see is they’re going to collapse together. And that’s the part that’s basically increasing the electromagnetic force exponentially because these are basically just charged balls of lightning, or like a super powerful electromagnet. And they have. Imagine if they have the same polarity and you try to jam them together.
What’s going to happen? Boom. You got this huge repulsion effect. But look at that heat signature in the bottom left of this orb. Like that is just wild. Let me actually slow this down so that people can see, because this part, to me is the most crazy part, is when it zooms in here and this is a completely separate plane. Or is this. No, this is the same plane. Same exact thing you just saw from a completely different angle. Wow. Before people ask it, the orbs are in sync with the other video as well. To the best that any human can figure out, it doesn’t seem to be any discrepancy.
Look at the orbs spinning on their axis too. Like how the heat signature moves around. Yeah. If these were fake, no one would go to that level of detail, Right? Detail. You can see the heat signature in the belly of the plane as well. Right here. You see that heat signature in the belly of the plane? I sure do. This is smoke coming out of the belly of the plane. That’s why it looks like contrails, but it’s actually just smoke wrapping around the plane on both sides of the hull. So it leaves two smoke trails. And so this.
This is how we figured out, oh, it really is a fire. Like, we saw this. And compared to the witness statements, you can see the dark lines in front of the orbs, even right there. Yeah, yeah, I do. And then watch this part. They reorient, and then they just collapse. Wow. Like, this part’s the craziest, is that the operator clearly knows what’s about to happen right here. Like, you see how they’re zooming out like this? And they’re, like, putting this camera in front of the thing in front of the plane. They know it’s about to go down.
The orbs blur right here for a second. I’ll show you when, like, look at the orbs. You can see the heat signature for a second. It goes away right here. There it goes. Goes away. And then once it comes back, they’re immediately collapsing on the plane. And then the plane. You can see the tail. The plane still. Like, this is almost like an inversion of the tail of the plane sticking out of this. So eerie. Dude. People try to say it’s vfx, but here’s the thing. This is actually part of the original video as well. This, like, slow mo part here.
So this is an. Actually, this part’s already slow mo. Let me. So it gets bigger, and then it actually gets smaller again in the next frame right there, it gets smaller, and then it’s just gone after that. So in four frames, it goes. I’m just gonna let this play out here. Me change the speed. It goes, opens up, it closes, and then it’s gone. So this is not an explosion event. And this is black because this is an endothermic event. If this was an explosion, this would be white hot. Right? We can tell because we can see the engines on the.
On the plane. So this is an end. So it’s like a vacuum. It’s like a vacuum, Correct. Yeah, it’s like a black hole. And this is what Salvador Pais even said, where he’s like, you know, that’s a black hole or whatever you want to call it, if you want to call it a wormhole. It turns out the difference. The black holes and wormholes might be the same thing, but based on this video, they might be the same thing. And people have kind of speculated that is that maybe a black hole, maybe all black holes have a counterpart where something has to come out on the other side.
That would make sense. And if that’s the case, then this is teleportation. If that’s not the case, then this plane just got spaghettified into a black hole and doesn’t exist on this plane of existence anymore. And I don’t mean to be that to be callous. I mean, I do want to show respect to the families. And truthfully, I’m trying to get the truth for them. I understand this is hard for people to believe, but, like, look at the detail on this. You can actually even see gravitational lensing right here. I mean, why wouldn’t they just guide it onto another air for air base or something like that if our own government needed to use it? But what, what would be the.
The point of sitting it through, like, this portal, black hole to. To. There’s the. There’s the big question mark right there. Where did it go? Like, okay, I think you. You do it to hide it, I think. Right. Like the reason why you teleport a plane or annihilate it is that you want to hide what you’re doing. You don’t want people to either know where it’s going or where it went or, you know, whatever else. But then it would attract. It would attract it reappearing somewhere else. Right, the satellite. Yeah, they probably did. And those videos didn’t get leaked.
But that’s what I wonder is. I imagine there was probably two videos on the other side. Wherever this plane showed up, we speculated it showed up somewhere near the Maldives. Just speculation. We can’t say for sure. But there were some people that saw the plane there in the early morning hours in the Maldives. And then they saw it fly south to Diego Garcia military base. So this is the place where everybody was saying the plane would go. And it makes sense. It’s a secret military base by the United States government in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
It’s a perfect spot to hide a big, giant plane. So I think the plane got there. Now, I can’t say because I don’t have two videos on the other side, how it got there. But either this plane teleported somewhere else. Maybe there was, like, some weird time effect where, like, it came out, like, a few hours in the future. I don’t think it’s gonna come out, like, manifest, like, whatever that show is, like, 10 years in the future. I don’t think that’s gonna happen. I think it would have already happened if it was gonna do that, But I keep the door open to it coming out.
Like, you know, plane being gone for, like, a couple hours and then all of a sudden appearing out. Yeah, I think it’s possible. And then, you know, what happened after that? Well, if you look at that debris we spoke about earlier in Africa, that could have been placed there. It just could have been placed there to make it more. To try to make it believable that it crashed into the ocean. I actually don’t think it was placed there. I think that it fell into the water or was put in the water at Diego Garcia, or either that plane was landed at Diego Garcia and it was falling apart because it was on fire.
And it was a Boeing plane. And some. Some pieces fell into the water. Like the engine cowling, which is just like the outside of the engine, fell into the water there. And if you look at the ocean currents, it’s like a perfect match. Diego Garcia compared to where all that debris was found in Africa. Perfect match. Like, that actually makes sense that they would have found that debris in that period of time compared to the South. Doesn’t make any sense. I’ve never seen footage like that in my life. That’s. That I’m just. I just. I don’t even know what to make it.
That’s just unbelievable, what I just witnessed right there. And my audience, I’m pretty sure they feel the same way. Well, that’s why a lot of people naturally just go, that can’t be real. I just think, well, it has to be fake. And I don’t. I understand that, but we should be brave enough to say, what if that is real? And. And how would we confirm that? We shouldn’t just be dependent upon the authority to tell us, Because a lot of people will say, well, what’s the chain of custody? If that’s real, there’s gonna. There’s never gonna be an official chain of custody for that.
That. That’s the kind of thing that, like, that’s so far beyond what anyone was expecting. Like, if we’ve got that. And it turns out, by the way, that those balls of plasma being cold fusion potentially means that we would have covered up cold fusion technology that was like this big thing in 1989 where like, turns out the DOE probably just like made that all go away. Because those ball, those balls are plasma balls, but they’re not white hot. Those were not white hot balls of plasma. They were like blue and green, like basically the same color as the plane.
Which means that’s very cold, that’s cold plasma, which is counter what everyone thinks right now. And cold plasma might be the secret to free energy, to tapping into the energy that’s all around us. So the government could be hiding from us, anti gravity, they could be hiding from us. These dark operations that they’re doing, they could be hiding from us that cold fusion was real and they could be hiding free energy from us just from this one video that we saw. So the implications are obviously through the roof. And everyone goes, well that can’t be real.
Because you think of like what that really means. It means like everything’s kind of fake, everything’s a lie. Academia has no clue. If academia hasn’t figured this out, but like military contractors have figured this, all this science out behind the scenes, it means that like our planet, there might be something really dark going on here. Like that they’re afraid. And this is probably very ancient technology that’s been around for a very long time in my opinion because obviously orbs have been seen since the beginning of time and in, in pictographs and paintings and on Egyptian walls and in caves.
I mean, I mean it’s been around for a very, very long time. Just makes you wonder. Yeah, let’s try to, let’s try if we can here segue into this Tesla explosion that happened in front of Trump Tower. Now that guy said he was not under duress, but he left an obvious ISO prep that he was probably being followed. And he, I think it was, he was really trying to blow the whistle on something, but it got intercepted and I think another psyop was delivered within his mission of trying to blow the whistle. Do you think there’s connections here? Do you think there’s a connection here with the Malaysia flight? And him knowing this about this type of technology in which they’re like, we’re not going to let you do that.
And something happened there, man, everybody asked me that. And that’s, I think that’s why I had such high demand because the crossover was huge. And this email that Sean Ryan received was so. The mindset was so contrary to what the FBI was trying to paint to people. And in it half the Letter is this guy whistleblowing on anti gravitic drones and that China and the US are in some kind of technology, you know, race or war to figure out shadow war over who can develop this technology fast. Would that be considered anti gravitic drones, what we just saw over that plane? Oh, 100%.
And that’s why I look at those videos. You know, plasma itself, according to Ken Shoulders in the late 80s, has anti gravitic properties because you’re manipulating the energy all around us. The ether, if you want to think of it that as that, the ether, the zero point energy field, the plasma itself manipulates that energy density. And so you can add more energy in there. You can create this ball of lightning that’s moving around. So you have often you have these same phenomenon come together, anti gravity. And you can’t fight against that, not with our technology. And if someone like China has this technology, there’s no, we’re done, it’s done, Zo.
It’s game over. It’s probably game over for the whole planet, frankly. And that’s the big scary part, is that this kind of technology is. And that’s why I found what he said credible, when most people are probably just going, no, he’s a crazy person saying all this stuff. He also says that he has uap, USAP access. And Sean Ryan didn’t even know what that meant when he was talking about this letter. I mean, that is UFO unacknowledged Special Access programs. He’s saying he had the access to. The guy was confirmed. Green Beret confirmed Special Forces. They confirmed that he was just aligned with some drone project back in November, just a few months ago as well.
So he’s in the right position. He has all the right credentials to, you know, be a guy that would be a whistleblower. And everything about his death is extremely suspicious. I mean, the whole explosion in front of Trump Tower is very symbolic. We use. That’s what I said from the get go, man. I mean, especially using a Tesla. And then in front of Trump Tower, it’s like those two guys are teaming up right now. All the media sitting there going like, you know, President Elon, blah, blah, blah, crap, right? Like, of course it looks like a big narrative in terms of that happening.
So I was just talking. Oh crap, I forgot his name right off the top of my head. But I. There’s people. Oh, Matt Lardo, I think is. I’m probably butchering his last name. I do it all the time. Don’t worry. Yeah, so anyway, there’s Researchers that have been looking into it on X. And, and they spoke to his wife just the other day. It turns out that whole story about the DNA not matching his kid, that was all fake. It didn’t match, like, and she said they had a happy marriage as well, like this. Okay, so another psyop that I thought they were doing here is trying to basically make the vets untrustworthy to lead to another psyop in which, you know, he had a right wing manifesto, make him look unbalanced, have ptsd, in which I suffer from all those beautiful things.
And I’m going to tell you right now, I think they’re playing that card for future terror events in order to say, oh, see, the vets, they’re just so imbalanced. They’re crazy. I don’t know. I think that’s a part of this. I mean, it was interesting to watch Sean Ryan circle the wagons after that because the debunkers came at him hard and said he faked the email because it was contrary to what the FBI was pushing out there. And the FBI story makes no sense. Like they somehow hacked this guy’s phone in a few hours that was destroyed in this explosion and pulled off this message from his, you know, notepad or something that’s like this unhinged, Right? So do you think they use the Sean Ryan show to put out misinformation? No, no, I think that he, Sean Ryan was putting out the real information that was confirmed that come from this guy that paints a completely different perspective of his mental state.
And that is. That was huge. And so then, because Sean Ryan did that, everybody was attacking Sean Ryan because they’re going, well, the FBI is saying this and that goes against what you’re putting, right? But Sean Ryan was doing his job by just putting it out there. I mean, he was just getting the information and putting it out there. Very brave debunk. Like the one fat guy going, oh, I’m an expert. And this is all fake. And this is why the email is completely fake. Fake. Oh, they attacked Sean. They went after Sean like gangbusters, man, everybody.
So that’s why when he circled the wagons, it was interesting to watch. I was on the space, had like 30,000 people on it. And he basically took up, he brought up all his, like, lawyer and all his, like, FBI people that are, you know, legit and was like, just had them read off their credentials and basically be like, nope, Sean’s legit, you know, blah, blah. And then when the FBI came out and said, yes, this definitely came from the guy. A lot of people say, oh, well, why you’re believing the FBI now? And I think that this is when people take it too far where it’s like, no, I’m not believing the FBI.
The FBI is admitting that this is real. It goes against their narrative, but there’s just too much evidence. They can’t deny it anymore at that point. That’s how I look at that perspective. And it’s not that I like fully trust John Ryan or anything like that. I mean, I think he’s a good guy, but I, you know, I think that we have to accept that. That email, they have forensic analysis that proves it comes from his device. So it’s either him or somebody else using his device. That. I’ll say that I know Sean Ryan personally and he’s a friend of mine.
And I’ll say that I like the guy. I think he’s. And I’m a good judge of character and he’s a salt of the earth type of guy. And, and that’s, I can only just speak on this character. He’s a really good dude that I know. And so that’s why I just. All of this that’s coming out, this overload of information that’s coming out right now, I just think it’s all related. It’s all related. There’s a massive cover up. Two forces are fighting right now. You know, I’ve always said this is a spiritual, a spiritual war at the core.
And I think this, I think what’s coming is going to be, in my opinion, with this UAP technology which is already there. It’s who’s controlling it, man, whether it’s, whether it’s China or aliens, obviously it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s obviously whether if it’s from aliens, it’s been here for the longest time. But if China has it and they’re just flying over our country like, look, flexing their technology, then we’re in trouble, man. 100%. Yeah. And I, I want to say I respect Shan Ryan too. And I, I supported him 100% on this thing. Even while people were saying no, this got debunked by this guy.
I was like, no, man, I don’t know. Sean Ryan’s like a straight up guy. He’s not gonna, you can’t, you can’t shoot the messenger, man. No way. And I get why, like, you know, there’s this controversy of whether or not why he wants to talk to me or not talk to me or whatever, but I Get it. Sean Ryan wants to talk to people who are like, have you tried to reach out to him? Have you tried to. Yeah, like behind the scenes. I should send them a message the other day. But, you know, I get it.
Like, what I’m putting out there is pretty out there, man. It’s hard for people to like, wrap their brains around. And truthfully, it hurts national security. It really does. Because what you just said about what’s the real implications of this is if we have this technology, regardless if it comes from aliens or wherever it comes from, this is a big issue and a political issue. And I want America to have this technology. I don’t really want China to have it or anybody else to have it, because the moment two warring factions get this technology, it’s game over.
We’re not talking about shooting millions of thousands of nukes into the sky. We’re talking one bomb that takes out the whole planet just like that, just instantaneously gone. And that’s the thing that scares me about this. In terms of what’s the whole narrative? I think this is where it comes together. My opinion. I’ve thought about this a lot because I do think there’s some connection and I think that this technology is ready to come out. And I think they can’t really hide it for much longer because the physics is getting found out and people are normal.
People like me are starting to figure it out. People like you are starting to like, really question, like, what’s the energy source on a UFO? Like, wait, if these UFOs are real, like, what’s, what’s flying this thing? There’s no, I don’t see any SpaceX rockets there. How is it just levitating, no propulsion system, nothing. It’s just smart people are going, wait, is there some sort of free energy that we don’t know about? And we’re like, oh, quantum mechanics says there’s this zero point energy. So people are starting to figure it out. So it’s going to come out.
China has probably already figured out that it’s real as well, and they’re working on it. And we’re at the point now where it’s like, once China does one of these displays of power, people are going to start freaking out saying it’s aliens, but the government’s going to know it’s not aliens. They’re going to say, and they’re going to not be able to say what it is. So you could imagine the New Jersey drone situation could be some type of situation like that where China’s Just flexing, showing people what they have. And it’s really then a question of which country is going to be the one that’s going to spill the beans on this to the people first.
Like, hey, so it turns out guys, we’re basically just cavemen. We’ve been messing around with rockets and we could be having this like zero point energy technology and living like the Jetsons or like Star Trek or something, you know. So let me ask you this then. Do you think this has anything to do with the, the balloon, the Chinese balloon that was flying over the States and nothing happened? Do you think maybe they were mapping things out so that these drones can fly so freely? Yeah, I think the balloon was a distraction. I think that the real reveal was the other objects they shot down right afterwards that they didn’t want to show the videos of.
And there was rumors that it wasn’t just balloons that they shot down and they couldn’t figure out what it was. And then they like said they were going to recover it and then they said, oh, we couldn’t recover it, don’t worry about it. Like, yeah, find anything. That was the, the bigger reveal. And I think that I’ve been speculating for several years, even before I started doing all this podcasting stuff, that they had been using drones to as code for UFOs and they started using that. And that’s where I started suspecting that maybe we’ve developed some drones based on anti gravity technology that you don’t even have to have a person inside of it where you don’t need a flying saucer.
And then you start to think about it’s like, yeah, the person inside is just a liability. Why have that at all? How could they handle that kind of G force anyway? Those kind of like right angle turns? You know, I just don’t. Yes, I think maybe they’re flown with. Through conscious thought. I don’t know. I don’t. I mean a lot of people think that it’s interesting. You know, I, I would need to see someone doing it to like really be like 100 believer, but another dimension. I mean. And the other thing too is when you watch the MH370 is the other huge part is like watching them spin around the plane.
It’s very similar to the design concepts for an Alcuberry warp drive. The idea of the warp drive is you’d have this ring around the plane in the middle and then the ring would be what warps space and time. But instead we have an airplane in the middle and we have the orbs are presenting as the ring and they’re not connected to the plane. And we look at from that perspective, you’re like, oh, wow. Like this is like really advanced. Like someone thought through, like the Miguel stuff. Yeah, they made the teleportation happen. I mean, they were, they were making this.
Salvatore Pius says they are filling the air with like non ionizing radiation is the way he describes it. I like to listen to the, the Navy experts and engineers that basically are building this stuff and can’t talk about it. And the, basically there’s a phase singularity. So you think of the wormhole that’s happened. There’s a black hole. It’s making a little black hole. And what’s happening is you’re ripping through the fabric of reality, but only for a split second because then reality immediately closes back up again and the energy kind of just comes right back in.
So. But it would have to have coordinates on the other side. That’s what trips me out of, like, it’s not just going into some mindless hole. Yeah. So this is why they call me Four Orbs, because the whole thought has been, well, what if they’re using quantum entanglement? I mean, we’re already out in the woo just saying we can teleport something. But even hypothetically, how would that work? Well, how does it work in the quantum realm? We know quantum teleportation is real. We call it quantum entanglement. So what if they entangled three orbs over here to one orb anywhere else? And maybe it is limited.
Like, maybe you don’t just teleport anywhere you want. Maybe there’s a steering wheel. So maybe this fourth orb, you put this fourth orb somewhere and then you converge the three orbs like we saw in that video. Then now the plane instantly. Or maybe there’s a weird time dilation fact where it’s like, okay, all of a sudden, two hours later, you appear over here. I don’t know, it’s hard to say because we’re just judging based on they’re connected to that fourth orb. And that’s why they call me Four Orbs. Which is, it is kind of weird that that’s my last name, Forbes.
But that’s one theory. The other theory is like, it could just be like a turkey baster where, like, it depends on how much energy you put in, where if, like you squeeze it on one side, it’s just going to depend on how far it goes in that direction. I, I don’t really know. Honestly, it’s hard to Say and people also ask me like, well, what happened to the passengers? The truth would be that I think the smoke from the fire, if that really was a firearm or that plane probably took out basically everybody except for the pilots and then maybe some of the, the crew.
And I doubt that people unfortunately survived, but if they did, okay, so then that would mean they were more, more concerned about the evidence being left behind. That, that’s what I’m thinking. But again, like the only people that can answer a lot of these motive questions are the US Government themselves. And we know they’re hiding the truth about this plane. So if people really want to press, they should be pressing, you know, people like Director of National Intelligence Avril Hines, you know, people that were connected to administration when it happened, like James Clapper, John Brennan. These people are 100%.
They’re in the know. They would know what exactly what we did to this plane. So it’s crazy too that when you look at these people like they’re good liars, a lot of them, because like they know dark stuff that we did like this and they just never let it crack and get revealed to the public. It goes to show that these people are better liars than I even expected. That’s why I don’t mind when people. Clever, yeah, we’ve done some, some evil stuff or they’re in the know on some evil stuff that they’re not revealing. So where do you think this leads us? You know, I’ve, you know, for the past, for the past five years, even longer that I’ve known about this.
But for the past five years on my show I’ve been talking about subblors that have come out saying that they’re gonna pull this alien card and don’t believe it. It’s all deception that these are Internet, they’re not from other planets, they’re interdimensional. These entities are from other dimensions, which would make sense with teleportation. But what’s your thoughts on this? I mean this seems to all be coming out right now, right on time. Any thoughts on that? I think it was always going to come out at some point. I don’t think there’s a, any kind of timeline on when it’s actually going to happen.
Although I do think the government has like an awareness program that they’re trying to bring us up to speed on. I think the interdimensional thing is actually a psyop too. If you really, if my true opinion is. And I don’t care where they come from, you know, whatever if there’s aliens, there’s a lot of different options, including interdimensional other planets from under the ocean. They could be us, we could literally be aliens that were stranded here. You know, there could be AI, they could be conscious plasma. The amount of options is like through the roof. Endless demons, Cryptids.
So for me, it’s like I had a. You know what? Let other people figure that out. I don’t know, I’m more like, well, that being said, you saying let other people figure that out. There’s a lot of personalities coming forward saying there’s going to be disclosure. Do we trust them? I don’t trust any of them. The one that I align with the most just on my own research is Steven Greer. A lot of people ask me about him. I, I mean, I like him because he’s pushing zero point energy. I think that the lost century should basically be like mandatory watching for people.
If you haven’t watched that documentary, it basically. I don’t think it ever mentions aliens at all. Maybe once or twice in there, but mostly just explaining free energy going all the way back to Tesla. And some of these scientists and engineers that Greer did interviews with. And a lot of my research either comes from people like Tim Ventura, shout out to him. Or Steven Greer that interviewed a lot of these black project engineers. Those are the people that people should have been talking to. Not like, no offense to the military or thing. I respect our veterans.
But having like, talking to a military whistleblower that, like, saw something weird. Okay, great, that’s a cool story. But the people you want to be talking to are like, what was the. Who’s the engineer that figured out, like, the Zero Point Energy device? Or like some, you know, who’s the one that figured out. If you take these orbs and zap them, converge them together, it’ll like, zap a plane away. Like, who’s that person? Because that person exists out there and they are, like, usually a little more socially awkward. They generally don’t do podcast interviews and stuff like that, but sometimes they do and sometimes they speak pretty openly.
So Stephen Greer did a lot of those interviews. Check out his disclosure archive when he starts Talking about the CE5 stuff and all that. I’m not really quite on board with that. And I think that he’s kind of using some of this as a marketing with respect to the, the whistleblowers. But I, I look optimistically if there are whistleblowers coming out, like he said, in the next 72 hours, great. I’ve got nothing. Is I think everybody. Well, I think you’re. You’re pretty profound. I think you’re pretty big with what you’re showing, the evidence that you’re showing here to my audience at least.
Ashton, have you gone on a lot of shows? Yeah, I’ve got on quite a lot. I’ve done over, like, I think 100 podcast appearances, and I’ve only just done that to, like, I wanted to get this into the zeitge so that people understood this is real, this is out there. People out there think the videos are fake and debunked. I understand that, like, what’s going to happen over time is people are going to slowly start to realize this stuff’s real. And as more stuff like the cybertruck bombing happen, people are going to see that there is these connections like you were putting together earlier on this show here between all of this, and it’s going to corroborate that those videos are real, that technology is real.
We’re going to see that kind of endothermic event that. That cold zap. We’ll see stuff like that again that will prove that those videos are real in the future. There are a few that people that haven’t, you know, wanted me on, or there’s something they don’t. Generally don’t say publicly what it is, but, like, Joe Rogan relatively famously said that, like, Jeremy Corbell told him that the videos were fake and not to, like, basically have me on. Which actually did lead to Joe canceling an interview I had with him. I think that interview, Joe Rogan, will happen one day when there’s more corroborating stuff where people look back at these videos and they’re going, maybe those debunks weren’t as solid as they thought.
And, like, maybe this really is something that the US government could pull off. And let’s see, what was the last person. But I have been on people like Candace Owens, who was surprising because I like her a lot. I think she’s extremely intelligent. I don’t agree with all of her positions, but I don’t think people have to. And I expected her to be not on board with this idea of, like, advanced technology. And it turns out when I first met her, she was like, oh, yeah, I’m totally on board with the idea of, like, the government hiding advanced technology, of course.
And so that was a great conversation. People should definitely check out. And the Hodge twins as well was a great conversation about the physics and the science that people should check. You were able to show these videos on there as well? Yeah, on. Not as much actually. I, I wanted, like, it would be nice if Candace Owen showed it a couple times because it’s like a three hour interview and the videos are only there for like a couple minutes. So I tell people, go to my YouTube channel, like I’ve uploaded them there. If somebody made these videos, why have they.
Like the reason why those videos is I want somebody, like, why people are telling me someone made these videos. So, okay, well, I guess I’m going to make money from somebody else’s work if that’s the case. But. And that’s just another reason why it’s like, okay, I’m not trying to become rich or famous from this. You know, that’s not the goal. I have a real job that actually I, I do, you know, a 5, 9 to 5 for the most part. I’m kind of on lunch right now. So, you know, with respect to this, like, this is just something that I thought was important.
That’s important to me. And I looked at the UFO community and I realized there’s a lot of people out there trying to push this alien narrative. Like, oh, it’s aliens and whatever. If we see something that we can’t understand, it’s alien technology. But that doesn’t mean. Yeah, but I’m just saying it’s probably most likely reverse engineered. That’s what my original thought was as well. The more I’ve learned, the less certain I am, the more I’ve learned. It could be even a situation where we’ve been using the alien narrative to cover up that we’ve figured this out.
Even going all the way back to the 40s, say, okay, what about the Foo Fighters in the in earlier? Maybe I don’t. The crash at Roswell, I mean. Yeah, the Nazis, even before that, the Nazis were supposedly experimented. This is supposedly part of the reason why we took their, their scientists from project Paperclip. One of those scientists was Friedwart Winterberg. Turns out he was looking at fusion, potentially cold fusion, believed in the ether. I heard all this stuff leads to Antarctica as well. It could, I think the Antarctica thing, I have a different view on it, which is that what if they’ve got some very powerful gravity wave detector there and they can’t admit it because people don’t really think we can make gravity waves.
And so if you were like, oh, you’ve got some super advanced gravity wave thing there, like, why do you have that? Oh, well, because it turns out all the primitives are messing around in the electromagnetic spectrum and we like you know, all the advanced races are working with gravity waves and manipulating gravity through the ether, and we’re just dumb apes that think that space is empty. It’s an empty vacuum. There’s nothing in it. So this is the part where you were asking, too, about some of the community, where there’s a lot of community that for some reason doesn’t seem interested in the science aspect of it.
But for me, that’s what I’ve always loved is like, how do I make a warp drive? I want to see this stuff that you can do in Star Trek. And it’s not that I don’t want to diminish the alien aspect. I think it’s interesting. I’m curious about it. But for me, what would really change the whole world on an actual technological level is if we have, like, free energy or warp drives and wormholes, like, we don’t need airplanes anymore. We don’t need to do anything. Yeah, we just go to teleportation station and we just go wherever we want.
Just go through your portal and appear wherever you want. And it’s not even. Maybe not even going to another place on this planet. You may go somewhere else, you know, and go visit some other dimensional beings and come back. I mean, this could open up an infinite amount of possibilities that it just would blow anybody’s mind. Right. Like, our reality would just shatter. Like, it’s just insane. What this could present. Yeah, it’s. And that’s part of it as well, is I think some people’s minds literally will shatter. Like, you can’t discount that. The more I thought about it, religion, actually significant percentage religion right there.
First thing to go, boom. You know, it’s funny, I have a different take on that as well. But I. I think it’s. Those people will adapt it easily. They’ll be like, oh, okay, well, you know, God created aliens. God created all this technology. Boom, problem solved. To me, it’s the people that trust the Authority that will. They’re going to have the psychological break. Interesting. You know, the people that are in their car driving alone, right? Oh, you’re. Those are the people that, like, they trust the Authority so much that now that they learn that the Authority has been lying to them, that academia, the media, and the government have all just been lying to them for their whole lives, those people are going to break, break down.
You learn that the government does because they have faith in their institution, into the government, right? So the same kind of people that yell at you and go, oh, you’re a conspiracy theorist. Right? You believe that, you know, they use it as a pejorative to try to put you. Those people are going to have a psychological break from this because it goes to show that, like, yes, the government is capable of massive cover ups and they’re capable of shaping your perspective, perception of events. Just like how everybody, if you were to ask them, think, well, no, MH370 crash and they found debris.
Like, it’s just like a robot programming. And they’re doing to us on a level that we don’t even really understand how invasive and subversive that it really is. Ashton, I really appreciate you coming on. Thank you, man. This was a killer podcast. I’m gonna put this. So I’m gonna go for it and stay with me for a second. All right. Oh, where do people find you? Yeah, find me on X. Primarily at Just X, Ashton. And on Twitter or on YouTube as well. You can find me on TikTok and Instagram. And now on Red Note, the Chinese application, I joined that as well.
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