Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson CLASH at TPUSA America Fest in Ultimate Showdown of 2025

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Summary

➡ The annual event of Turning Point USA, America Fester, started with a disagreement between media personalities Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson. This disagreement reflects a larger issue about the attempt to redefine MAGA, particularly after Trump’s presidency. Erika Kirk, who is still grieving her husband’s death, endorsed J.D. Vance as Trump’s successor. The event also featured speeches from Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson, who have differing views on various issues.
➡ The article discusses a debate about conservatism, focusing on Ben Shapiro’s views and his response to a question about the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. It also mentions the growing skepticism among Generation Z towards the narratives presented by figures like Shapiro. The article further explores the changing dynamics of Turning Point USA events, where questions about U.S.-Israel relations and Jewish influence are becoming more common. Lastly, it criticizes the perceived war on Christmas by individuals who are Jewish in name only, and celebrates President Trump’s declaration of Christmas Eve and December 26th as federal holidays.
➡ Most people celebrate Christmas globally, except for a small group that doesn’t blend with common culture. This is likely the last video for 2025, and the creator will return on January 5th. If you want to support the creator’s work, you can buy them a coffee through a link provided, which is a popular way for creators to receive tips. This method is preferred over YouTube’s Super Thanks or Super Chat, as YouTube takes a significant portion before taxes.

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Turning Point USA’s biggest annual event, America Fester, Amfest kicked off last night with fireworks, both literal and figurative. But what happened between Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson? It’s just a microcosm of a much larger issue. This isn’t just about two major media personalities having a beef over Israel’s influence in America. This is about the neocon plot to try to hijack and redefine MAGA, especially in a post-Trump presidency, as they have their eye set on 2028. Erika Kirk kicked off the event looking and sounding a lot more focused and determined than she did during her recent media blitz, promoting Charlie’s book Stop in the Name of God, which he had written before his death.

Very uncomfortable and sad appearances. Obviously, still not anywhere close to being through the stages of grief. And I don’t mean to sound harsh, but I think her doing any media appearances like that at all and even releasing the book was sad and the wrong decision. That book should have been put off for six months or until next year. There’s no reason for a still, obviously an understandably grieving widow to be going and doing media appearances and breaking down into tears during every interview. The last night, she was very composed. She made it clear that the organization was endorsing J.D.

Vance as Donald Trump’s successor. And then you got to wait to see who the very first speaker was of the evening after her. We’re going to ensure that President Trump has Congress for all four years. The midterms are coming up next year. It’s going to come quick. We are going to get my husband’s friend J.D. Vance elected for 48 and the most resounding way possible. And then the new featured speaker of the evening, Ben Shapiro, took to the stage, which is extremely interesting and stay tuned because I’ll get into all of those details.

But first, real quick, this is probably the last video that I’m going to post of the year. I’m going to take a couple weeks off, do a digital detox and return Monday, January 5th. So don’t worry. I will be back. There’s a small chance I may post like one video. I would have tried to just fully unplug and just relax and rejuvenate and then return for 2026. Of course, I have all the clips lined up and I will show them along with my truly independent and politically incorrect commentary. And the reason why I say he’s the new featured speaker of the evening is because when Amfest was announced and as it was approaching up until very recently, little Ben was not on the speaker’s list until shortly after the Daily Wire donated $1 million to Turning Point USA shortly after Charlie Kirk’s murder.

And you don’t have to just trust my memory of this. We have the Wayback Machine because being your trusted media analyst, regular viewers know I always have the receipts. And so web pages are archived and the archives are dated and you can go back to any of the archives from as soon as Amfest 2025 was announced up until the latest archive, which was at the end of October. And you can see that little Ben was not on the list whatsoever since he is the leader of the Jewish clique consisting of him, mainly and Mark Levine and Josh Hammer and their Shabbos going Ted Cruz who literally every single day between them, one or multiple of them will complain about Tucker Carlson on social media.

And I give it a 98% probability that will continue on Christmas and through Christmas vacation on Christmas day. So as expected, little Ben started his speech by attacking Tucker Carlson for interviewing that right-wing streamer Nick Fuentes. Now, what was that, like two months ago? For example, if you host a Hitler apologist, Nazi loving, anti-American piece of refuse like Nick Fuentes, you know the Nick Fuentes who said that the vice president of the United States is a quote fat gay race traitor married to a cheat. If you don’t know, the J word is an insult that’s gained a lot of popularity recently when Americans became aware of all of the Indians who have invaded our country, the non-assimilating Indians, most of whom came here with the H-1B visa loophole person who said that Charlie Kirk was a quote retarded idiot.

Well, let’s be honest, some of Charlie’s policies, especially a few years ago, were Charlie giving thumbs up to gays adopting children, gay marriage, bringing Rob Smith on his tour, trying to celebrate him being a black gay conservative DEI hire. That’s Ben Shapiro’s favorite word this year is glaze. Actually, Charlie knew that by ordinary Americans just hearing questions about things like Israel’s influence, Jewish supremacism, then the neocons and the Israel firsters would immediately start losing ground because the arguments need to be suppressed by the neocons. Otherwise, people start thinking and noticing a little bit too much.

What exactly does taking accountability mean for having somebody on your podcast is just asking about how they became so popular and why there’s so much controversy around him. Of course, to Ben Shapiro and the Jewish clique, that means Tucker Carlson must be cancelled. He must never be mentioned. He must never be allowed to speak at any events. He must be banished from the internet. Look, I’m not pro Hitler. I don’t care about Hitler. And because of that, they say I worship him. I admire him. I’m a Nazi. But because I don’t have this mythological, I don’t observe this mythological religion of Hitler and the Holocaust.

They say I’m a goose stepping Nazi. I’m Catholic. And as Americans, we need to step outside the shadow of that time period. And that’s not a dog whistle to say, oh, it’s time to start wearing brown shirts. It’s to say, look, like that exists in the Jewish consciousness. It doesn’t exist in hours. That’s a Jewish bedtime story. It’s not a bedtime story for us. Americans should get interested in America. I was born in 1998 in Chicago. What do I give a about the Holocaust in Poland in the 1940s? They go, he’s a denier.

Shame on you. Okay, whatever. Anyway, this it’s these people, man. So not long after little Ben’s speech, Tucker Carlson took to the stage and responded in part like this. I just got here. And I feel like I missed the first part of the program. Hope I didn’t miss anything meaningful. But I just want to say, I don’t think I did. No, I’m just kidding. I watched it. I laughed. I laughed to the kind of bitter sardonic laugh that emerges from you and like upside down world arrives. When your dog starts doing your taxes and you’re like, wait, it’s not supposed to work this way to hear calls for like deplatforming and denouncing people at a Charlie Kirk event.

I’m like, what? This is hilarious. But I really thought that the impulse to deplatform people or even to use the word platform as a verb, which it’s not. It’s a noun. Don’t steal my nouns. Deplatform and denounce. Why haven’t you denounced somebody else? The whole like red guard cultural revolution thing that we so hated and feared on the left, that we did everything we could to usher in a new time where you could have an actual debate. I mean, this kind of was the whole point of Charlie Kirk’s public life. And I think that I think for a conversation that he died for it.

I really believe that. And I know a lot about it because the last several months of Charlie’s life were devoted in part to arguing about this event. In fact, this speech, in fact, my speech here, which he asked me to do earlier this year, this summer, and was immediately put under just immense pressure from people who give money to turning point, I would assume good people, but who wanted him to take me off the roster. And this has all become public. And I, the whole thing is so sad that I never talk about it, except to say Charlie stood firm in his often stated and deeply held belief that people should be able to debate and that if you have something valid to say, if you’re telling the truth, you ought to be able to explain it calmly and in detail to people who don’t agree with you and that you shouldn’t immediately resort to shut up racist or shut up anti-semite.

You shouldn’t immediately go to motive. By the way, shut up racist is the number one reason I voted for Donald Trump. And because it just sick of it. I mean, first of all, if I was a racist, if I was a bigot, I would just say so. Okay, it’s America. You’re allowed to be whatever kind of person you want. I’m not. I’m sincerely opposed have always been and will always be, but the style of debate where you prevent the other side from talking or being heard because you immediately go to motive. Well, I wonder why you’re asking that question or like little Ben and his click of neocon friends, wage and incessant campaign daily trying to get Tucker Carlson canceled.

In fact, this was little Ben just, I think the night before, if not two nights before, speaking at the Heritage Foundation, which brings us to Tucker Carlson, who has become by any honest assessment, an opponent of conservatism and outsider masquerading as an insider and destroying the character of the conservative movement in the process, says the guy who by default endorsed Hillary Clinton in 2016, not supporting President Trump after he was the nominee, not voting for President Trump, saying that it would be better for conservatism if President Trump lost in 2016 to Hillary Clinton.

I’m not going to pull up that clip. Regular viewers know they’ve seen it. That’s Ben Shapiro. Things got even more interesting during the Q and a session of the event when somebody who undoubtedly Ben Shapiro will label as a white supremacist, anti-semite gripper asked about the USS Liberty. You cited during your speech, truth as the most important tenant of American conservatism. Why therefore did you call irrelevant the Israeli attack in 1967 on the USS Liberty with left dozens of American servicemen dead and hundreds wounded? Listen to that response. There are no boos.

There were a lot of people there who agreed with him and everybody knows the implications of just raising this question. So it’s clear that a large percentage of that audience has gone down a certain rabbit hole that Ben Shapiro has been spending his entire career trying to cover up. Little Ben then went on to give the official story of what supposedly happened during that event and then of course insinuated that the person asking the question was anti-semitic. The people who frequently cite the USS Liberty, however, are not talking about the specifics of the USS Liberty.

I suspect that the vast majority of people who bring this up are doing so in order to suggest that Israel deliberately attacked an American ship because Israel deliberately wants to harm America. It is clear if that’s your point. If the truth matters, then the Israeli government must be held accountable for that attack. The American flag was flying on that ship. You do not mistake an American ship for a foreign one when our flag is flying. So we can spend the rest of the time talking about the specifics of the U.S.

Liberty. Listen to that response. Nobody was booing the kid for asking the question. They were again applauding him for the second time, showing, according to Ben Shapiro’s view, that the gripers have infiltrated turning point USA because the reality is that the majority of Generation Z young men who are politically interested, politically inclined, are not buying the Kool-Aid that Ben Shapiro, the Neocons, have been feeding them, feeding all of us, for generations. Tucker Carlson brought up Ben Shapiro’s despicable insinuation against that young man, saying this. Why do you have to imply that some college kid is like some kind of a kid more right or something because he’s asking about an event? Like what? By the way, it is okay to ask questions.

And I thought that was like the whole reason we were against the left. They’re not going to force you to get up there and make ritual denunciations because this isn’t my religion, it’s politics. By the way, your politics do not trump my love for other people. And while many of the young men in Gen Z, and really others, like to bring up the U.S.S. Liberty as a way to kind of open the conversation about Israel-U.S. relations, Ben Shapiro did show that it’s rather easy to just kind of deflect from that by claiming the official story, which has sort of a built-in plausible deniability narrative.

Other topics, however, like the Levon Affair, which is an Israeli false flag attack, is indisputable and admitted. Same with the King David Hotel bombing. Same with the Lehi, also known as the Stern Gang, a Zionist terrorist group that was basically like the ISIS of early Israel trying to establish their caliphate, their Jewish homeland through terrorism. And because of the very fascinating awakening that has occurred in Gen Z, and really across the country since the dam is broke, the gatekeepers can no longer prevent people from talking about Jewish influence, Israeli influence, and other forbidden topics.

Now, at every Turning Point USA event, the speaker is asked questions like this. Is it America first for senators, Congress, and even our president to take money from AIPAC? Is it America first to take money from a foreign lobby so you’ll send taxpayer dollars to that country? And send our troops over there and, you know, get involved in wars on their behalf, you know, just doing their dirty work on behalf? Of course not. You know, even the question kind of answers itself. Obviously, it isn’t. Question, of course, that Ben Shapiro doesn’t want people to ask.

But now, like I said, that cat’s out of the bag. And that’s not an attack on Israel. It’s really not anti-Semitism, despite the efforts of many to claim that it is. It’s just an obvious statement. And the fact that again, note the applause, the fact that people are attacked for asking the question. This is something that I talked to Charlie a lot about in his final months, because he was being attacked as an anti-Semite for asking that question. And we’ve memory hold that, but I was there. So I saw it. That’s not the right way.

Don’t attack people’s motives. I’m serious. These kinds of questions are now commonplace at Turning Point USA events. Here is Vice President JD Vance, who was filling in for Charlie on one of his scheduled stops of his planned tour, being asked another forbidden question. I’m a Christian man, and I’m just confused why that there’s this notion that we might have owe Israel something, or that they’re our greatest ally, or that we have to support this multi-hundred billion dollar foreign aid package to Israel to cover this, to quote Charlie Kirk, ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

Their memory hold that too. Regular viewers know there’s a clip of that. I’m not even going to pull it up. Charlie Kirk said what Israel was doing to Palestinians was an ethnic cleansing. Not to be confused with the genocide, it’s a totally different thing, but it was and is an ethnic cleansing. I’m just confused why this idea has come around, considering the fact that not only does their religion not agree with ours, but also openly supports the prosecution of ours. Again, note the applause. Years ago, these kinds of questions would get booed, or people would be so confused they wouldn’t really understand them, but now the Overton window has changed, the culture has changed, conservatism is being restored to paleoconservatism, and the neo-cons are panicked.

And what I’d like to see next, what should happen next, what must happen next, for the sake of restoring our culture and preserving our heritage is, and I give a word of caution to the Gen Z young man and others, because this is a mission for only a select few people at this point, maybe, would be raising awareness of and pushing back against the Gynos, the Jews in name only, who are the ones waging the war on Christmas. Like the one who wrote this op-ed in the Washington Post, saying don’t wish me a Merry Christmas, don’t wish anybody a Merry Christmas, because it’s impolite and alienating to assume that people follow your religion.

Of course, this person doesn’t follow any religion, but they’re ethnically Jewish, and because of the historical tensions between Jews and Gentiles, many of them still will not assimilate, even culturally, and celebrate Christmas, even though it’s basically a secular holiday. And raising awareness about the fact that a Gyno wrote Santa’s husband trying to desecrate Christmas, depicting Santa Claus as gay, having a black husband, just pure ridiculous, pure blasphemy done by a Jew, and how the ADL has launched a campaign trying to shame public schools into not having children do arts and crafts time during Christmas time, or mentioning Christmas at all, it’s just winter break that involves depictions of Santa Claus, I’m not going to play the clip again, regular viewers have probably seen it, I show it every Christmas, because, well, nobody else will, and how this Gyno wrote an op-ed in Time Magazine, I mean, they’re just endless examples, demanding that Christmas not be a national holiday, that it’s just too oppressive for them to hear Christmas music when they leave the house in December, oh no, you poor Jew.

But some good news, yesterday President Trump signed an executive order declaring Christmas Eve and the day after Christmas, December 26th, also federal holidays, along with Christmas, which should be the case, because it should be the norm, unless your job is like necessary, we’re in a hospital or somewhere, we all should have Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, and the day after off. I certainly know from my time working normal jobs for most of my life, having to go to work the day after Christmas absolutely sucks. So Merry Christmas everybody, that’s what we say around here, that’s what we say in America, and what we say on planet earth as humans, whether or not you’re a Christian, most people around the world acknowledge and celebrate and like Christmas, whether you’re an actual Christian who believes all the tenets of Christianity or the Catholic Church, whether you’re a cultural Christian who just kind of, you know, likes the idea, whether you’re an atheist unless you’re, you know, one of these crazy blue-haired feminist times, most people around the world celebrate Christmas, obviously, except that one disgruntled little ethnic group who still won’t assimilate into the culture of mankind.

And have a happy new year as well, I will see you next year, in case you missed it in the beginning. This is probably the last video that I’m going to post of 2025, so thanks for making it a great year. I will be back on Monday, January 5th. And if you appreciate and want to support my work, I would be more than happy if you just bought me a coffee by clicking the link in the description below. It’s a crowdsourcing service that a lot of creators use. It’s a great way to tip your favorite content creator, way better than a Super Thanks or a Super Chat because YouTube takes like 30% of that off the top before taxes.

So buy me a coffee, great little way, just buy me a cup of coffee or how many you think that you want to give by clicking the link in the description below, heading out over there and checking it out. [tr:trw].

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