➡ Nino’s Corner TV features a guest, Martin Armstrong, who is an expert in global economics and has been involved in advising governments worldwide. Armstrong discusses the impending global financial crisis, highlighting the issue of governments continually building national debts with no intention of paying them off. He also talks about the potential for a significant financial disaster, which could be triggered by war and the inability to fund new debt. Armstrong suggests that serious reform is needed, but doubts it can be achieved due to political self-interest and lobbying.
➡ The article discusses the potential for global conflict, referred to as World War III, due to various geopolitical tensions. It suggests that this conflict won’t be like previous world wars, but more like a series of regional conflicts, or “brush fires”. The article also highlights the economic vulnerabilities of Europe and the potential for debt crises to exacerbate these conflicts. Lastly, it suggests that this period of conflict could begin as early as June and continue into 2032.
➡ The text discusses the current economic situation, comparing it to past events like the 1929 crash and the Roaring Twenties. It suggests that private assets like real estate, gold, and collectibles are safer investments than government bonds. The text also mentions geopolitical tensions, particularly in the Middle East and Asia, and their potential impact on global markets. Lastly, it highlights the importance of understanding these complex issues to make informed financial decisions.
➡ The speaker discusses the political tension between the United States, Iran, and Israel. They suggest that the U.S. is stuck in a difficult situation, unable to leave due to Iran’s demands for security against invasions and Israel’s refusal to comply with U.S. decisions. The speaker also mentions a prediction of escalating global conflict leading up to 2032. Lastly, they express frustration with government self-interest, using a failed attempt to reform Social Security as an example.

All right, folks, welcome to Nino’s Corner tv. Boy, do I have a great guest for you today. This is the go to guy, Martin Armstrong, who’s going to be kind of sounding the alarm bells of this global financial crisis that we’re stepping into. But this guy was called in to help the government’s governments globally, China, Europe, Russia. He wrote the peace plan. Trump actually sent him a letter thanking him for the peace plan. This guy is the go to guy. This guy understands economics and he understands the financial disaster that we’re heading into and he’s sounding the alarm bells.

Martin Armstrong, thank you so much for joining me. Oh, thank you for inviting me. Was that a good introduction? Yes. All right, Good first, folks. First, folks. First is first. Get, get your red light, folks. Hey, everyone, it’s your guy here, David Eno Rodriguez. This is how they told me to read it. You’ve already, you’ve heard about that. All the talk about the med beds, those next level healing machines that repair your cells, kill inflammation and reverse damage with red light and pemf. Well, there’s there the full med bed hack is here right now, folks. It’s red light therapy panels plus red light PMF bioforge mats from myredlight.com these panels flood you with nine of the most proven and highest quality red and near infrared wavelengths.

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Where do we even start with this? Because it does. We can all kind of read the D leaves. We know something’s coming. We’re bracing for some kind of impact financially. I’ve always talked about on this channel a black swan type of event or something that’s going to kick off, that’s just going to, you know, send the financial markets into peril. Right? So let’s, let’s hear from you, the expert, the guy that wrote the Russia peace plan, the guy that went to China to get him into capitalism. What do you have to say? Sir, thank you for joining me.

I think what a Lot of people, I would say, misrepresent that somehow. It’s just the United States, we have the biggest debt, all this stuff, we’re actually in the best position. But the real problem here is that Since World War II, all governments, they run deficits and they’ve been building national debts with no intention of ever paying anything off. So a three year old with a pocket calculator can figure out if you’re going to keep rolling the debt. Your interest expenditures eventually consume everything. I mean, this year they hit a trillion dollars and so the deficits will keep going.

And then unfortunately you get the other side coming in and keep wanting to raise taxes, which I was even involved back in the 90s on the whole tax reform issue. I was the guy going back before between Bill Archer and Dick Army. Dick army was for the flat tax, Bill Archer was for the retail sales tax. And they were both Republicans from Texas. And I said, why can’t the three of us sit down for dinner? I said, we can’t because I don’t think we’re compromising. So I was actually in Dick’s office and he said to me, he said, look, Martin, you know, cycles, you know, we can’t, he can’t go with the retail sales tax because you’ll never repeal the income tax and when the Democrats get back in, we’ll have both.

And I said, you know, Dick, you’re absolutely right. And it could never, you just couldn’t get anything off the ground. And it’s in Washington. It’s everybody for themselves. And what do I get out of it? The country does not come first. That’s simply the way it is. And it’s not just Washington. I have dealt with governments around the world. We’ve got offices from China to Dubai. So I’ve had a front row seat. I don’t see any difference. I don’t care what they call themselves. Capitalists, republics, this, that, it’s always, it’s their interest that always comes first.

So let me ask you this. You know, Trump is going to be signing the $100 bills come July 4th. A lot of speculation out there, like he’s going to be putting his signature on it. That’s like a first ever, isn’t it? I mean, would that be some kind of sign or signal that we’re breaking free from. I’ve heard guests say this on my show, this could be the time Trump is going to break us out of the America, Inc. America Corporation. And you know, with a new Fed chair that’s coming in or he’s in already. What’s your thoughts on that? Is there any truth to that in your mind? No, unless you’re looking at a real serious reform.

And I’m not sure that they can pull it off because you’ve got, you know, too many people when in Capitol Hill would never vote for because they get lobbyists paying them to do something else. So we have to reach the crisis first. And I have been warning governments the crisis comes when you can’t sell the new debt. And you need, because we’re just in this Ponzi scheme, you have to sell the new debt to pay off the old. Nobody’s paying off anything. All right? So you’re just constantly rolling it and all historically when you get into these sovereign defaults and the last One was actually 1931, all of Europe defaulted, most of Asia defaulted.

South America, even Japan abandoned the gold standard. So did Britain. That’s what made the depression so bad because the dollar went up dramatically because everybody was coming here. And so you have to understand that we get, you know, when you can’t fund, you know, the debt, that’s when the default comes. This time it’s going to be far worse because this time around we have pension funds, things of this nature. In Europe, by law, on average 70% of the pension funds are going to be in government debt. So if the government goes bust, there goes your pension fund.

So it gets to be a real mess compared to the last time. And then the time before that was the 1840. It just snowballs. Yeah, look, I was called in to advise in creating the euro. You were called in to advise creating the euro? That’s insane. Wow. Well I get, you know, that’s what I end up doing. I’m a tend to be a currency specialist. I’m you know, advising some people in Canada, I mean on Alberta separating Swiss met with the Swiss central bank on the the euro Swiss peg. I mean this is. Do you get in by the central bankers a lot? Yeah, because I don’t have any conflict of interest.

I’m not allowed to own stock or something like that. If you do, you can’t talk. So are you part of the central banking system? No, we’re an independent company with offices around the world. We have more institutional clients than anybody and I had to, you know, basically created a, I was a programmer, I created a program, was the first AI system in the world basically and it has a 40 year track record. So most of just about all, you know, governments, central banks, they all tend to subscribe to us because the computer, it forecasts every day nearly 1500 instruments around the world.

It writes the reports itself, so it’s not a biased or a personal opinion type thing. And it monitors the entire world, so it’s actually been able to forecast wars. I learned that, you know, back in the 80s. So, Martin, let me ask you this. What are you forecasting here? What do you have to tell my audience? Because I’ve had guests on that that have said, Look, 2026, the ending of 2026, going into 2027, we’re gonna have a bond crisis. It’s looming, it’s coming. A lot of guests have come on and say, man, we’re coming into a black swan event that no one’s ever, you know, could ever conceptualize ever before.

What we’re coming in to a tidal wave of a financial disaster that no one can even brace themselves for, for what’s coming. Is there any hope in this, man? Or is this just. Is this going to just bring in or what are we looking at here? And when do you. When’s the window? Are we in the window now? The biggest problem is, is what our computer has been projecting is, yes, we’re into. Actually from June on it starts. And it’s. From June on, it starts. You said, yes. And the catalyst for this is war. Okay? It’s.

It’s. Europe is trying to break away from the United States. You have Macron basically telling everybody in Europe that France will provide the nuclear umbrella. They want to invade Europe. I mean, in Russia. And Macron has been pitching the idea that Russia’s weak, they can take Russia, then Russia is the richest country in the world from a natural resource perspective. And it’s been estimated to have about 75 trillion in the ground. And he thinks that if Europe can take that, then Europe will rise again. United States and Canada will be the fledgling colonies that we should have been.

The way you’re telling me here that World War Three basically is the way to. That’s where we’re headed. This is the only remedy for this World War iii. Pretty much. This is what governments do. They always start some sort of distraction, because if it’s going to default, they have a choice. The people are going to pick up their pitchforks and come for the parliaments, or they got to say, it’s not me, it’s Putin. That’s what’s going on in Europe. We saw that even when Biden put the sanctions on. On Russia and the gasoline prices went up, he said, oh, it’s Putin’s inflation.

They always have to blame somebody on the outside. And what the computer showing is that, yes, this is World War Three, but it’s not like one or two. It’s more of a. Like a brush fire. So you’re seeing North Korea versus the South, China versus Taiwan, Middle eas, Europe versus Russia. So it’s not that like one guy like Hitler invading and we get to defeat him. Domination. It’s just going to be for territories. Yeah. It’s mostly because of debt. And Europe is the worst, as I said when I got called in. And so, okay, fine. This is how we create a currency.

And at the time, Chancellor Cole was the of Germany. He did not allow the German people to vote to join the Europe because he knew he would lost. And before he died, he said he would have lost seven to three. So he insisted on no consolidation of the debt. And I said, if you want to compete with a dollar, you have to consolidate all the debts of the member states and you have a national debt. Like our bond market is the deepest in the world. Okay. And if you don’t do that, you can’t compete with the dollar.

So they didn’t. So today, every country still has its own debt. So in 2010, when Greece got into trouble, it turns into a contagion. All right, the, the traders go, okay, we made a lot of money short in Greece. Who’s next? All right, this is the problem. Europe is extremely vulnerable compared to the United States. If California went bust, the traders are going to say, who’s next? Oh, Illinois. Okay. They’re not going to attack the Feds. All right, In Europe, you have no Fed, so all you have are the individual member states. And is this also a big reason Trump is trying to pull us out of NATO so we don’t go into a war like this? Yes, look, that was my recommendation at the end of last year.

I was, I did get a letter from him and said, you know, no, we’re not going to exit NATO. That’s all changed now. I warned them. I said, europe is going to stab you in the back, and the number one party would be Kaylis. And that happened. And so now it’s like you, you. You had the head of NATO come out even against Macron without using his name. But he publicly said about two months ago that if you think you can defeat Russia without the United States, you’re dreaming. So do you see a possibility of, you know, not this New World Order that we’ve.

What we’ve been calling it, Right, the New World Order, The World Economic Forum, maybe Not that forming, but maybe kind of a Trump’s New World Order or these super states that could be forming, you know, China, Russia and America forming super states. Do you think that’s a possibility. Right at their throats right now? That’s after like maybe 2032. But I said, you have a crone hop on a plane to go to China before Trump did. And he said that the EU will no longer participate in any war that’s not European territory. So he basically gave the green light to Jing to invade Taiwan.

We will do nothing. That’s why when Trump went there, it was. That was like the big issue. And when Trump left, if you look at what he actually said, I recommend the chip companies move to America. Okay. Oh, in other words. In other words, we’re not going to protect Taiwan. Pretty much. He’s trying to. Look, we can’t. I told him, honestly, I said if I was on the opposite side of the table, I would use I, you know, Iran to drain all your missiles. Russia would then actually get aggressive and try and take all of Ukraine.

North Korea invades the south and China takes Taiwan. How are you going to defend on four fronts at the same time? And Cuba, we got Cuba to worry about now, too. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it’s so, it’s. We’re overstretched. And then, so I don’t think, if you look in, read between the lines, I think Trump has clearly taken a position that may be backing out of NATO. They have not supported him on, on Iran. So he’s kind of like, okay, you want us to pay for your wars all the time, but you do nothing for us.

And then the same thing with Taiwan. So, you know, it’s we. That’s why I said the computer showing it’s World War iii, but brush fires. Okay, but let me ask you this. When you say that, though, I mean, anything can happen if it’s World War iii, I mean nuclear. I mean, to me, my mind goes in so many different places. You see this happening after June, like World War III basically kicking off like there’s no choice. Yeah. I mean, we’re already kind of in it. I would be more concerned on the nuclear side between Israel and Iran.

Putin is probably the smartest guy at the table. He’s been trying to avoid World War iii and, and of course, you know, Europe puts out all the propaganda against him all the time. I know your, I mean, Russia pretty well. You remove Putin and you’re going to get one of their neocons, and who’s not going to have a problem pushing the button. So Putin at least knows where it is. And I think a lot of people don’t realize. I can see he’s getting frustrated. Initially, most people don’t realize, but Kiev was the birthplace of Russians. So to him, it was always nostalgia.

He didn’t want to destroy it because everybody like us going after London. But now you’re seeing he’s coming under a lot of pressure domestically and could be overthrown unless he gets aggressive now. So you saw him sending in some, you know, other major missiles into Kiev and he’s warned the embassies, get the hell out of town. So things are changing there too. And you know, Putin has been really, look, we had two employees in, in, in Ukraine. One was in Kiev and the other one was in Donbas. They wouldn’t even talk to each other. All right.

People don’t realize the degree of hatred in that area. And this is kind of the same thing to me as you see in Iran. It’s not like, you know, the Ayatollah is going to, you know, call Netanyahu, oh, come on over for dinner. You know, it’s, they, there’s just a deep seated hatred, you know, when you’re in war and it’s just political. All right, I’ll give you, you know, like, you know, Monopoly. I’ll give you a boardwalk for Park Place, you know. Right. This is not that. When you’re into religion, You know, I’m not sure there is a solution to Iran versus Israel.

Think the two of them got me put into a cage and let them go for a match or something. It’s. And the same thing with Ukraine. I mean, I know both regions very well and I don’t see them. Look, as soon as the 2014 election or revolution took place, it was Ukrainians that started this. You can look it up. They were taking Russians off the street of Odessa, beating them up and killing them. They chased a bunch into the Trade center building, center on fire and burned them alive. That’s what started the whole separation movement. The hatred there is just, it’s systemic.

So what, what, let’s talk about, you know what, My audience are listening to this right now. So you’re saying, from what I’m grasping here, June it begins. This is going to be the brush fires of World War III. It starts after June, going into 2032. About pretty much, yeah. I think it’s going to, you know, reach an initial peak maybe by August, September. I would not be surprised since Macron really gave the green light to Jing China goes for Taiwan if they don’t do it by August. Wow. And that’s where. When you get into war, all right, that is when interest rates rise.

And the bonds you buy, you better make sure, or you’re buying the ones that the guys are going to win. I mean, you go on ebay and buy Confederate bonds, they look very nice, you know, framed up, but they lost awards and they’re worthless. And that’s the problem with debt. This is also why you see the stock market making new highs. You have people saying, oh, it’s going to crash. What? No, sorry. They don’t understand. This is a war between government versus the private sector. When you get into, you know, when you’re like, 1929, there was.

US had a balanced budget, okay? So you didn’t trust the corporation, so you sold the stock. You bought the government. This time, it’s the government that’s in trouble. Do you really want to go buy more bonds? So what do people do? What. What. What. What does the average citizen do? There has to be something like, I’m buying gold and silver, right? I also have people buying tungsten, which is used for artillery, tanks, you know, things like that. But what do. What do you. What do we do here, man? Like. Like, what does the average citizen, like me, do? All private assets are what basically survives.

So you’re seeing it in collectibles and rare coins, ancient coins going for. I mean, the one just sold for a million dollars the other day. I mean, that’s a new record. High real estate. I mean, I. I’m in Florida. I still get three calls a week. Jay, you want to sell your house? Where am I going to go? Chicago, you know, so you’re saying. You’re saying real estate is a good thing to invest in. That’s what you’re saying. It. It survives to the next redenomination of a currency. Okay. Which is what will eventually happen. Okay. You don’t think there’s any chance that it could be happening in 2026 with Trump signing the.

I mean, I’ve never heard of a president signing the $100 bills. I mean, is this an ego thing, or is it the Secretary of the treasury that just signs that. And that’s been going on, you know, since ancient times. You know, you can buy coins of Julius Caesar, and they have the guy, the moneyer’s name on it, who made it, like the Secretary of the treasury, not Caesar himself. So this is a standard thing, has been around for, you know, a long time. You know, I hope that The Trump administration is at least listening to me more carefully because I’ve dealt with debt crises around the world.

And. But this is not the end. The market, the stock market making new highs. Gold will probably, like, maybe bottom out by next week and then start to move up. This is capital seeking refuge now. In 1896, the U.S. was virtually bankrupt. That’s when J.P. morgan had to lend the Treasury 100 million to bail it out. It was World War I and World War II that made the United States the financial capital. So all the money came here. You got tanks running down the street, blowing up your banks. You’re not going to leave your money there.

All right, so that’s what the Roaring Twenties was about. All the money came here. All right? And so that’s what war does. You start getting into wars in Europe. Middle east capital is already moving here, I can tell you. We had, you know, clients, major clients in Europe. And go back to last year, they started moving their gold reserves from London and Switzerland to the United States. Why? Because Europe has a history of when war starts, they put in capital controls. They’re trying to eliminate the currency and moving with their CBDCs as rapidly as possible. Once they do that, and they eliminate physical paper currency, which they do cancel routinely over there.

And then what will happen is you can’t get any money out. In Spain, you already need permission to take out more than €3,000 from your account in cash. If the government says no, you can’t. I mean, we, you know, we’re here in America. We don’t realize how crazy it’s getting over New York. London’s got more people in prison than Russia for posting things on Facebook. Yeah, it’s insane. Freedom of speech means nothing over there. It’s gone. So basically for my audience, what you’re saying here is we can expect things to really start heating up after June.

Like, like really. Tensions escalating, probably going to June, July, August. China can take Taiwan. I mean, this right from the real aggressive would be probably in August. And from a debt crisis perspective, I did a report. We lowered the price on them because it’s usually for institutions. Okay, here’s your side. I’m just pulling up your website. Sorry. Okay. Yeah. So covering the intersection of geopolitics, global markets, and economic confidence. So just want to give people, like, what people have to understand. They think that the Middle east is just flush in cash, and they’re not. When Covid took place, oil went down to $6.50, so the Gulf states started borrowing heavily.

All right? To keep, you know, to fund themselves. So they have a, a debt crisis. This is what, you know, the press doesn’t get it. They don’t understand. This is why Iran has been attacking the Gulf states. Grant offices there in Dubai. They sent more missiles and drones at Dubai than they did Israel. Why? Because Dubai has become the new Switzerland. We have offices there. Everybody’s there. They built a 30 billion dollar AI center. They attacked that. They didn’t destroy it, but they took it offline for about a week. And what the news didn’t say, the banking system went down.

Wow. All right. We couldn’t even send money to our staff there. So this is. If you, you know, everybody talks about this. Trader Hormuz, very nice. But you take out a tanker or so, fine. You take down a few million barrels of oil, you attack the refineries in the Gulf states and they can’t even fill up any tanker. They understand what’s going on here. I’ve warned them in D.C. that what their tactic of attacking the Gulf states, if the Gulf states can’t sell their oil straight to her moose or close etc, then they default on their debts.

They default on their debts. That’s going to shock everybody because people think, they never even thought about the Middle east being in a debt crisis. And once that happens, then it gets more of a contagion. Oh, who’s next? And so it, this is a very interesting situation. And you know, the general press, they don’t know it. I mean, what we know is mainly because we have offices, we have boots. So you’re, you’re the go to guy. You’re the guy. Is there, that’s, I mean, this is very important information for my audience to know. Is there? Do you.

I mean, what do people. I know you said real estate, you know, mom, gold and silver. But I guess it’s a big shit sandwich we’re all going to have to take a bite out of. And there’s no way out of this except for war. That’s what I’m getting here. You know what I mean? This sounds pretty ominous, you know, but I mean, it is what it is, right? I mean, that’s just where the world is heading right now. Yeah. Look, unfortunately, most people don’t realize that Netanyahu went to grade school and high school in Philadelphia. You’re kidding me.

Hung out. Pardon me? I said, you’re kidding me. I didn’t know that. No, I grew up in that area. Wow. All right. I also knew Bill Crystal, even spoke at one of our conferences. All right. His father, Irving, is the one that started the whole neocon movement. Wow. Who Irving? Crystal. Billy Crystal’s dad? Yep. What? And Netanyahu used to hang out with the Crystals. So I knew he was a neocon. I think they used him to get into Trump because he, Trump just thought he was a. Another guy ahead of state. And he got suckered into this.

He went to the Situation Room, sold his idea. I believe that, you know, look, Netanyahu, his strategy, if you look at what he does, he always tries to assassinate the head of whatever it is, Hamas, etc. He did that in 25. He assassinated a bunch of military guys. And so he sold this idea to Trump. We will take out the Ayatollah and the end, like cutting the head off of a snake, and the body will drop, will fall. His mistake is Iran understood that after 25, so they reorganized their government and they decentralized. So you take out the Ayatollah, it doesn’t mean anything.

Everybody else downstream have their orders and they’re free to go. This is what Iran isn’t, is still kicking. Okay, I will tell you this from my deliberate sources over there in Asia. Taiwan has now adopted the Iran model. Wow. Decentralizing. They too understand war is coming. So you, you take out the head. Very nice. It doesn’t stop it. All right. And Iran has been planning for this for at least 20 years. They had the biggest stockpile of ballistic missiles than anybody in the world. They knew this was coming. Oh, they definitely knew this was coming. Look, you can.

It’s all I did post a thing on my site. Netanyahu. This is what he’s been. He’s always been preaching to basically conquer, really, Iran. And I put on my cite a clip of him. I think it’s in that one. America’s real enemy. And he’s testifying before. If you go down, you might see it. I think it’s in that one. And he was basically testifying before Congress and 202. And he. Yeah, that one right there. And he, he was saying about justifying going in that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. We got to take him out.

Everything he said there is exactly what he’s saying about Iran. So he’s been a warmonger for a very long time. And these people are all sick, man. They’re just all sick. I think he sold Trump on this idea. And then after Venezuela and out, I think Trump thought that was going to be Iran because he listened to Netanyahu. That’s my opinion. Okay. And once they got Trump in. He can’t get the hell out. Why? If you, you know, pick up the, you know, look between the lines, even Netanyahu’s opposition has come out against him because Trump is now trying to cut a peace deal.

All right. And Iran’s not biting, mainly because Trump cannot deliver Israel. And Netanyahu’s opposition, it said, what’s going on? Not one objective has been achieved. Yeah. And Trump’s trying to exit, but Iran, from their perspective, they want to guarantee that there’ll be no more invasions, and Trump can’t do that because Israel is saying, we’re not bound by whatever you do. So we’re like, It’s a catch 22 here between a rock and a hard place. Yeah. So from Iran’s perspective, I would probably want the United States to still be involved. Oh, wow. Because it makes more better headlines, etc.

You know, so it’s just a real quagmire here. It’s, and this is the guy that’s created it. And I, you know, look, like I said, I had met him in Philadelphia a long time ago. That may be a dark secret that people don’t know about, but he, that’s where he went to school, grade school and high school. I had no idea. I mean, it doesn’t surprise me, obviously, but I mean, it’s just like, oh, geez. Well, Martin, I, I, I appreciate you coming on. This has been one hell of a podcast. I, I already have a, I already know how I’m going to title this thumbnail everything.

This is amazing. Where do people go to find you? What do they need to know if they, if they want to get, you know, really schooled on this situation and learn more. Where do they go to your website? Yeah, go to armstrongeconomics.com. we’re not blocked anywhere in the world, so we try to keep it as a public forum so that you don’t have to put in emails. You don’t, we don’t send 50, 000 emails. We don’t even sell advertising. We’re trying to keep it just straight, you know, plain, away from the fake news stuff. Right. This has been an incredible podcast, man.

I, I, I’ve learned so much here. It’s just the web of intricacies with all of this. So basically what I’m getting out of this is. Yeah, I mean, things are going to heat up after June going into 2032. Don’t expect it to even stop. It’s going to keep escalating. But basically, World War 3 could be looked at. We’re already in it. But it’s going to pick up after June and escalate to 2032, correct? Yeah, look, it’s. Everybody’s got their own self interest at this point. And Europe, for example, you either default on your debt or you create a war.

They always create war because otherwise, I’m telling you, people are going to pick. Pick up their pitchforks and stor in the parliament and dragging these people out because they’re pen. It’s the constant cycle, constant cycle, constant cycle. You know, I saw this when I was in Europe. I saw this graffiti on the wall and it was a picture of a. It was a. It was the symbolizing infinity, the letter or the number eight. Sideways they showed a tank and then a. A construction vehicle. So like obviously war and then construction war and then, you know, destruction and creation.

Destruction and creation. It’s just the constant infinity of it all, you know, And I just, I remember looking at that and I was like, yep, that’s. That’s it right there. Look, I can tell you that it was like a bulldozer, a bulldozer in a tank or something like that. It was just the constant evol. The constant. Back in the 90s, I was called in. I was asked to create a program to turn Social Security into a wealth fund. I did. I set up this is how we Do It. And Democrats wouldn’t vote for it because they said they wanted to change the fund managers if they got back in.

I said, I’m not even asking who they voted for. It’s who produce the highest return. But, you know, it’s. I’ve been frustrated. I’ve been dealing with governments for a long time and they’re all the same. I don’t care what the hell you call them. It’s like, what do I get out of it? Thank you, Martin, so much for joining me. Will you stay with me just for one moment, please?
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