(New Rule 10/34) HUGE ATF Rule Change Could End Permanent Gun Records But Keep Them For 60 Years!

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Summary

➡ The ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) is proposing a change to its firearm transaction record retention policy. Previously, these records were kept indefinitely, but the new proposal suggests a 20 or 30-year retention period. This change is seen by some as a step back from creating a national gun registry, but others remain skeptical. The ATF argues that most crime gun traces involve more recent purchases, making indefinite retention unnecessary and burdensome.
➡ The ATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) has proposed a rule to limit the time they keep records of gun sales to 20 years, instead of keeping them indefinitely. This change is due to concerns about the cost to gun stores and fears about creating a gun registry. However, the ATF still plans to keep some records permanently, such as those from gun manufacturers and importers. It’s important for gun owners to give their feedback on this proposal, as it’s not yet final.

Transcript

Let’s continue our march through ATF’s new proposed rules 34 actions in total and this one is not really a good one in my opinion but I want to hear from you. All right guys and gals a massive proposed rule a new change coming out of ATF and DOJ right now that almost nobody in mainstream media has been talking about and depending on how you look at it this could either be one of the biggest walkbacks of ATF record retention policy in years or a strategic repositioning that still leaves serious concerns for gun owners.

I’m in this camp because the ATF is now proposing to end the indefinite retention of firearm transaction records under the Biden administration that they change that rule and then move back to either 20 or 30 year retention systems from the Biden era and yes it’s the same agency that in 2022 expanded those retention requirements indefinitely under the frame and receiver rule. So today we’re going to break this entire thing down. I want to tell you what the ATF is actually proposing why they say they’re doing it what the means what this means for FFLs what this means for us gun owners why this is tied directly to concerns about federal gun registry and then why you should still be very very skeptical anytime the federal government says trust us if you’re new here this channel is about protecting the second amendment defending the constitution and exposing government overreach whenever and wherever it happens so if you appreciate that type of content make sure that you subscribe hit the bell and share the video everywhere thank you let’s get into this now the document we’re discussing today is an official ATF notice of proposed rulemaking titled firearm records retention periods now on the surface this sounds dry and bureaucratic but this is actually a huge issue because the firearm record retention is one of the biggest reasons that gun owners have been warning for years about the slow creation of a de facto national gun registry that’s exactly what it is and before anyone else says that’s impossible remember this when an FFL goes out of business federal law requires those records to be turned over to the ATF’s out of business records center those records include 4473s acquisition and disposition logs transaction records and sales records the ATF then digitizes those records and stores them and according to the ATF’s own proposal the national tracing center currently holds approximately 1.3 billion images of records 1.3 billion and for anybody who knows how to deal with searching the ATF says you can’t search these but control f you can search anything now that number alone 1.3 billion should get every american’s attention while i have your attention a quick break i want to thank a company that i support and and love and that’s blackout coffee if you’re tired of the same watered down corporate sludge that coffee brands put out especially coffee brands that don’t stand for anything they 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it’s acceptable i think the only acceptable term of keeping out of business transaction records is zero days and zero years the ATF is proposing that most firearm transaction records only be retained for either 20 or 30 years and they haven’t finalized which one yet and then if you take into consideration if those FFLs say at the 29 and 9 10th or 11 12th year mark they go out of business and they transfer those records to the ATF well they can keep her for another 30 years so that’s literally up to 60 years that ATF will have records on you now ATF hasn’t finalized which they’re going to go with 20 or 30 years but here’s where it gets really interesting the ATF openly admits in this proposal that the utility of these older records is diminishing in plain English they’re basically saying we don’t actually need indefinite retention because most crime gun traces involve firearms purchased much more recently and the numbers they cite are pretty revealing according to ATF in 2024 approximately 89 percent of successful traces used records less than 20 years old 92 percent used records less than 25 years old and 94 percent used records under 30 years old so the ATF is essentially arguing that indefinite retention creates enormous storage burdens while offering diminishing investigative returns now from a practical standpoint that’s probably true but there’s another reason they’re backing off this indefinite retention system and they basically admit it in this proposal public backlash the proposal specifically references long-standing concerns over federal gun registries and mentions congressional scrutiny over the out of business record system don’t forget gun owners of america exposed this through a freedom of information act this proposed rule even mentions proposed legislation aimed at preventing registry expansion and forcing destruction of records so this proposal isn’t happening in a vacuum it’s happening because americans have been screaming for years you are building a registry now ATF denies that but they also admit this proposal would alleviate concerns about a registry by reducing the volume of retained records and that’s very that’s a very important admission now let’s talk about the tracing data because this is where the ATF is trying to justify the change scientifically the agency says that as firearms age they are more likely to move through secondary markets inheritance transfers private transfers and other transactions that are not reflected in ffl records that means older records become less useful for tracing and according to ATF over 87 percent of traced firearms had a time to crime of 20 years or less the median time to crime was just over three years roughly 24 percent of traced firearms were recovered within one year of purchase so from the ATF’s perspective indefinite retention simply isn’t necessary but here’s where i think gun owners need to stay cautious because while this proposal reduces retention requirements it does not eliminate federal collection of out of business records not even close the ATF would still receive records from closed ffls they would still digitize them they would still maintain them for up to 30 years the only difference is that they would eventually destroy them in either 20 or 30 years instead of keeping them forever allegedly trust us so this is not some massive libertarian awakening inside of ATF this is not uh the federal government suddenly deciding that privacy matters no this is just a recalibration a scaling back a political retreat from something that became wildly unpopular and increasingly difficult to defend publicly and honestly that matters because public pressure works when millions of Americans keep exposing the issues eventually even federal agencies have to react now there’s another major part of this proposal involving private party transfers and voluntary firearm handler checks the ATF is proposing that certain form 4473 is used solely for private party transfer facilitation or voluntary checks only be retained for 90 days that’s actually pretty significant the ATF says that they want shorter retention periods because longer retention could discourage private parties from voluntarily using background checks due to privacy concerns and frankly they’re spot on on that one a lot of gun owners absolutely do not trust the federal government with permanent records of private firearm transfers i’m lawful my item is lawful and protected by the constitution i can sell it to another lawful legal person who isn’t a prohibited person and it doesn’t matter what the government thinks about that now there is an exception here if a private party transfer results in a nix denial the records would be retained for five years the ATF says that aligns with the federal statute of limitations and assets protection involving prohibited possessors now let’s talk about the political implications here because it’s huge for years gun owners have warned that universal background checks inevitably create registration systems because a background check creates a transaction record a transaction record retained indefinitely becomes a permanent paper trail and permanent paper trails can eventually become registries and this proposal doesn’t erase those concerns but it does show that government understands that americans are deeply uncomfortable with indefinite firearm transaction retention and that alone is a major political development now another thing buried in this proposal is that the ATF openly acknowledges the financial burden on FFLs and this is important because a lot of smaller gun stores got crushed by the 2022 indefinite retention rule storage costs digitized digitization costs compliance costs off-site storage electronic record systems all of that adds up the ATF now says these burdens may longer no longer be justified again it’s a remarkable reversal from where they were just a few years ago but i want to make something very clear this is only a proposed rule right now and it’s not final the ATF is asking for public comments and this is where gun owners need to pay attention and get involved because these comments absolutely matter especially when an agency is already clearly feeling political pressure you need to tell them no national registry no indefinite retention no abuse of tracing systems no expansion of digital tracking systems and strict constitutional protections for lawful gun owners because history teaches us something very very important governments rarely surrender power voluntarily if they back away from something it’s usually because the pressure became too intense and sunlight was being shown on them and i believe that’s exactly what we’re seeing here now before i wrap this up i want to point out one final thing that deserves attention the ATF specifically says that importer and manufacturer acquisition records would still be retained permanently so this proposal is not a complete rollback certain categories of records would remain permanent because ATF says they’re useful for proving interstate commerce and firearm age classifications so when they want to lock you up for a commerce clause violation this is how they do that they prove that gun came from somewhere else out of your state and they overuse the commerce clause to violate your rights so again this is not government abandoning data retention it’s simply reducing the scope and honestly for many gun owners that still won’t be enough but from a pure second amendment perspective this proposal is probably better than the indefinite retention system currently in place but it’s still not acceptable this doesn’t mean we blindly celebrate it it doesn’t mean that we trust ATF and it definitely doesn’t mean that we stop paying attention because the second amendment community has learned the hard way that rights can disappear one regulation at a time and sometimes those regulations arrive dressed up as administrative procedures folks let me know what you think down below do you think a 20-year retention period is acceptable do you think any federal firearm retention is unconstitutional do you trust the ATF to actually destroy records after the retention period expires i want to hear your thoughts if you enjoy this breakdown make sure to subscribe hit the bell and share this everywhere i’ll have a link to this proposed rule in the description in the pin comment go to it make a comment the period is open this is exactly the type of information that the mainstream media either ignores or completely misrepresents thank you all for watching stay strong stay united stay safe stay armed and stay free i’ll see you on the next one
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