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The jury voted to award $3 million in damages with Meta responsible for 70% of that and YouTube on the hook for the remaining 30%. The six-week trial has featured high-profile witnesses, including Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO of Meta platforms, Adam Masseri, the head of Instagram, and Christos Goodrow, the vice president of engineering at YouTube. Jurors also heard from the lead plaintiff, a 20-year-old woman identified as KGM, along with her therapists, whistleblowers, and experts on social media addiction. She says she became hooked on YouTube at 6 and Instagram at 9 and that was by age 10, and she was struggling with depression, isolation, and self-harm.
Well, then that means that we need to sue your parents. The first person that she needs to sue is her own parents, bro. The first thing that she needs to sue is her parents, because if you’re sitting here and telling me that you’re addicted to YouTube or you’re addicted to Meta or Instagram at 6, somebody needs to get on your parents. Your parents are the ones that need to be held accountable. I’m always so confused, bro. Honestly, I’m very confused on how people are able to get this type of thing off. It probably costed Meta and YouTube more and legal fees to deal with this case than the actual damages that was awarded.
They being held liable for being too addictive? Yo, we got to revamp the justice system, bro. We got to revamp, because these people is out here being victims for everything. Number one, they’re going to go through a whole appeals process. Number two, the lawyers is going to take the lion’s share of whatever she wants, and number three, you need to hold your parents accountable. So now, of course, YouTube and Meta are going to have to put up some criteria, or they’re going to have to put more standards in place to separate to let people know, hey, this can be addictive.
And the plaintiff going to come out and say, oh my God, I’m just doing this for the people. I just want visibility into what the problem is. The landmark decision comes after Meta was found liable in a separate case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms in New Mexico. The jury ruled Tuesday the company violated state law by failing to warn users about the dangers of its platforms and protect children from sexual predators. Meta was ordered to pay $375 million in damages. You know that’s going to be appealed immediately. The company plans to appeal the decision.
We want to bring in CBS News senior business and tech correspondent, Jolene Kent joins us from our Los Angeles bureau. Thanks so much for being with us. I just want to start with you should be banned from social media immediately. They should have a blacklist site that people can get on social media based off of the fact that they said that they too addicted the same way that if you get that you can you can self exclude from the casino. If you say, oh man, you know what? I can’t handle it. I lost everything.
I feel like I’m spiraling. You can go and self exclude and then you will be trespassed any time that you go into a casino. You should be able to self exclude yourself from these platforms. Crazy. Absolutely insane. Are you going to sue them because you’re watching them? What was the reaction when the verdict was announced? This is a major moment. I’ve started to hear from families from all across the country who I’ve interviewed over the last 15 years covering the impact of social media on children, young people and families. And what we’re starting to hear is a sense of hope mixed with relief and a sense of, okay, what’s next? The idea here is really centered on what the jury has found in Los Angeles.
They found that meta and YouTube are both liable on all charges. And yes, $3 million was decided as the amount that should be awarded in damages to the plaintiff KGM who’s now 20 years old, as you put earlier, who said, Oh, shoot. What did I just do? I got to pull it back up. I’m sorry. Hold on one second. I close it out by mistake. A trillion dollar company. That president for the thousands of other cases underway across the country multiple. That’s why they fighting it so hard is because they don’t want this to set the precedent said other people can come behind them and say, Oh my God, this platform is too addictive.
And then it become a clash at class action lawsuit. So they’re going to appeal it and you know, whatever so on and so forth. But again, this is the problem with being successful is because you can’t avoid all of this foolishness, right? People choose your parents can’t manage you effectively. That’s why in other countries, they banned social media for younger people and other countries, they are banning social media for younger people because they parents have failed them and their parents cannot prevent them from doing certain things. I told my daughter very early, Hey, don’t post nothing on social media.
Don’t do this. Don’t do this. Whatever’s on the so forth, whatever blah, blah, blah. And I put strict restrictions on her phone on what she could and couldn’t see. Then we checked it regularly. It’s called being a parent. It’s called being a parent. So now we can sue schools. Now we can sue social media because we don’t know how to control ourselves. You know, it’s updated times and conditions us coming state attorneys general have brought similar cases against meta YouTube, snap the parent company of Snapchat, this decision and what ultimately comes of it plus new Mexico are likely to have a major influence on how those cases proceed in the legal system.
Now, what we know is that there was eight days of deliberation here in Los Angeles before the jury was able to come to a decision in New Mexico. It was a seven week trial. You said I reviewed her testimony last week, says tech coach Ralph, check out tech coach Ralph. Y’all too. She was always arguing with her mother. Social media was her escape. She still uses those platforms today. Civil liability juries are a dangerous game. Well, here’s the thing. As a parent, my child can’t negotiate with me. They can’t even argue with me.
I’m the person that’s right. Now you can communicate with me, but you definitely can’t argue with me because I don’t argue with children. I don’t, what do you mean you argue? See, this is all the problem with gentle parenting, probably not having a father in a home, all of that foolishness. This is all a problem. What do you mean you arguing with your mom? I can fix that. I can definitely fix that. We can fix that today, right now about a child sexual exploitation on Metta’s platforms. And that jury was able to come to a decision in just one day, less than one day.
And so this is an inflection point years of so many parents, young people themselves asking for the federal government, for example, Congress to provide regulation of these tech giants. That has been a giant failure at the state level. There has been some minor regulations passed by state legislatures and yet still these problems persist when it comes to mental health. Metta says in response to the Los Angeles superior court case, this decision here, that they are evaluating their legal options right now when they expect to have more to say as a punitive damages are assessed.
But this is a powerful moment for any family who has children on social media, all of the victims who have been impacted by similar issues. I don’t think that children should even really be playing on social media for the most part until they become adults or they be getting in high school. Once you get in high school, you might be able to start allowing for them to roll it out and stuff like that. But I don’t think that children should even be able to be on social media, bro. They need to be focused on a schoolwork, they development.
The problem with children being on social media, to be honest with you, is they get influenced by other children that are on social media and school. So that’s the biggest thing. It’s like, oh, everybody is doing it. And so that’s when you got to change your environment. That’s why people that have money and have resources, they all go to a certain school that don’t allow for their children to even be able to access certain devices. They are raised offline with kind of a 90s vibe, a 90s feel before they start to transverse and navigate into the real world.
It’s dumb. It’s so dumb. Now we sit in here holding social media companies liable for babysitting your kids that you chose to have. And you want the device for them. Up in her case before L.A. Superior Court Mag. Joing, a powerful moment indeed. As you mentioned, it’s not looking good for meta. And as a parent with three teenagers at home, I know that everybody out there is asking the same question. How quickly do you think it is possible that this could force these companies to change how they operate? So the case in New Mexico, for example, in May, we expect a bench trial from that court as to determine what should happen or what will be demanded of meta in terms of changes to their platform.
But let’s remember, meta plans to appeal that case. Meta is also evaluating the legal options here in Los Angeles. And so many of the legal experts we’ve been talking to have said this is probably eventually in some consolidated form. We love Sephora and the mall. Like, I believe kids can go to the mall because that’s what we used to do. We used to go to the mall back in the day whenever we wanted to go and hang out, go to the mall, whatever, so on and so forth. Honestly, people be getting so mad at me because I don’t even be checking my DMs like I’m supposed to.
I keep saying that I’m gonna get better at it. I don’t check my text messages like I’m supposed to. I keep saying that I’m gonna get better at it. Unless somebody say, hey, Anton, you need to check this or check your DMs. I don’t, I don’t be on social media like that, bro. If it’s not streaming, if it’s not doing something, man, I’m trying to be out in these streets ASAP and stop ringing. All right, I like that. Have a good day, Jen. We love you. You still are, sister. But I’m not even, I don’t even care about, honestly, I don’t need nothing.
I don’t need LinkedIn no more. I don’t need none of that. What am I, what am I doing it for? When I’m gonna go get a job? If you need to get in touch with me, get in touch with me in person. Jake Paul is a Jake Paul set, one of the dopest things ever. I don’t know if I can find it, though. He said, if you can, if you can, figure out how to get rich. A, D, B, S. Having people out here like Stan, I hope you read this DM. Figure out how to get rich off of, off of, without being famous.
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