➡ This is about a former IRS special agent, Joseph Bannister, who left the IRS in 1999 after exposing what he believed to be fraud in the income tax system. He confronted the IRS with a book about the alleged fraud and resigned when they refused to discuss it. After leaving, he spoke at a Freedom rally and later met Bob Schultz of We the People Foundation for Constitutional Education. Schultz invited Bannister to a symposium on income tax, which was unexpectedly covered by C-SPAN, bringing attention to their cause.
➡ This text discusses a series of symposiums and public debates about the legality of income tax in the US. The debates, which were organized by a man named Bob Schulz, invited government officials and IRS agents to discuss the issue, but none ever attended. The group also ran full-page ads in USA Today to raise awareness about their belief that income tax is a scam. Despite their efforts, the group struggled to gain widespread attention or change the status quo.
➡ The text discusses a series of events where the government refused to discuss the legality of income tax. Despite efforts from activists like Bob Schultz, who even went on a hunger strike, the government remained unresponsive. The activists tried to organize a congressional hearing, but it was cancelled due to the 9/11 attacks. Despite this setback, they held a symposium where witnesses presented evidence against the income tax system.
➡ The text discusses a dispute with the government, who has been accused of lying to the American people for over 100 years. Despite attempts to engage them in debate, the government has consistently refused to participate. The text also mentions an individual named Joe Bannister, who has been exposing a fraud to the American people and was targeted by the IRS and the Department of Injustice. The text concludes by encouraging people to educate themselves, stop paying into a system they believe is fraudulent, and work towards restoring freedom.
➡ The text discusses a man’s struggle with the IRS over income tax returns. He’s been following a system that files zeroed out returns, hoping to get back withheld money from his paycheck. However, the IRS has denied his claims and he’s seeking legal help to file a suit. The advice given to him is that pursuing this may not be beneficial due to the corruption in the courts and the high costs of legal fees. Instead, he’s advised to stop income tax withholding from his paycheck moving forward and to let go of the past issues.
➡ The text is a conversation between a person named Julie and a representative from Freedom Law School. Julie is seeking advice about her tax situation after selling her house for $1.7 million and being told she owes $250,000 in capital gains tax. The representative advises her to get a calculation of her tax liability from her accountant and assures her that they will help her navigate the situation. They also discuss potential places for Julie to move to after selling her house.
➡ The speaker, Jordan, hasn’t filed his taxes for about seven years and recently sold a boat, receiving a large wire transfer. Shortly after, he was contacted by the criminal investigations department. He’s unsure how to proceed and is considering joining a plan that offers legal advice and protection. He’s also worried about his financial situation as a struggling small business owner. The person he’s speaking with advises him not to talk to the investigators and to join the plan for legal support.
➡ The speaker is a home inspector who has recently started working independently after subcontracting for a larger firm. He’s unsure about his income for the current year and is considering moving to Florida. He’s also planning to attend a large networking event where he will distribute brochures about a law school that offers advice on how to legally avoid paying income and payroll taxes. He’s seeking advice on how to effectively present this information to the attendees.
➡ The text discusses a conversation about not paying federal income taxes and how to avoid them. The speaker, Peymon, has not paid or filed any federal income taxes for over 30 years and has not been imprisoned because there’s no law requiring him to pay. He advises not to sign the 1040 form, which could lead to imprisonment for up to nine years. He also suggests networking and sharing this information with others.
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Hello everybody. Welcome to another edition of Freedom Law Schools Freedom Hour. I got for you now the second part in a three part series about the gun carrying IRS special agent with the IRS Criminal Investigation Division who defected from the irs back in 1999, exposed the fraud of the entire income tax system. And we covered as far as his background in part one, what led him to investigate all these issues, okay, about income tax. He heard about Freedom Law School. He heard and he verified everything for himself. Ended up confronting the IRS with a book about the income tax fraud and ended up leaving the irs, you know, because the commissioner IRS did not want to talk about these issues.

And he resigned and spoke at our last, our first Freedom rally back in, you know, 1999. So I’m going to bring back Joseph Bannister. Now before we do that, if you’re interested to learn more about all this, go to our website, freedomlawschool.org and Joe Barrister’s website is agentfortruth.org so without any more hesitation, let me bring you Joe Barrister. Joe, Joe, thanks for being with me again. Thanks Fehmon, thanks for having me. It’s actually agentfortruth.com but probably just misspoke there. Yes I did. Thanks for correcting me, Joe. So like I said, we talked last time when he resigned from the IRS because they did not respond to your request IRS to review your book to show you know, if you’re wrong about this, if the income taxes them is a scam legally on the fraud American people, you know, you conclude that the Income Taxes Acts cannot be mandatory for American people the way it’s written.

And they would not respond to you. They said just leave if you otherwise, you know, whatever. They don’t care about you or your opinion or your research and send up leaving. So after you spoke at our Freedom rally, you know, that was in March 1999, you came across Bob Schultz of We the People foundation for Constitutional Education. Tell us about how you met him. Then go from there to how you ended up, you know, going to the debates he set up with the government, please. Well, I think actually Bob discovered me. So what happened was, you know, I left the IRS on my birthday in 1999, February 25th, same date in 1913 when the government claimed that they ratified the 16th amendment.

So a date I’ll certainly never forget. But after I left, I didn’t have any work, right, Because I had had that job for almost five and a half years. Nice secure government pay. And so I was working at various contract accounting jobs and you know, Ever since when I first resigned immediately I was getting calls and emails. You know, we are talking about 1999. So a lot of the social media didn’t exist and maybe, maybe it was Facebook, even around, I don’t know. But anyway, archaic Times back in 1999. And so was probably an email or might have been a phone call from someone who knew someone that, that Bob Schultz had come across my story.

And Bob, who was from, you know, upstate New York and he had a talk radio show in New York. I, I presume it was like, you know, Manhattan or we broadcasted through, you know, throughout downtown New York and upstate New York. And he was all about keeping the government in check, making sure that they were obeying federal and state constitutions, which is certainly a great pursuit. And one or more listeners informed him that this IRS special agent had recently resigned and was talking about the income tax and all of the, you know, the scam of the income tax and the manner in which it’s enforced versus what, what the law, you know, actually says on the books that Congress passed and the President has signed.

And so Bob invited me on his show and. Well, you mean payment. You probably know more than anyone since you, you know, met me even before I resigned that I’m not exactly a media savvy guy, to say the least. And so anyway, I’m getting these calls from people and they want me to be on their radio show or their podcast. They didn’t have podcasts then, you know, by telephone, whatever it might be. And I’m just kind of accepting invitations. Right. I don’t really know who these people are, what they’re about. I just figure if I’m invited and they’re interested in what happened to me.

Oh, come on. So I first came on Bob’s radio show. Don’t know how long, you know, he had had the show or whatever, but apparently my voice was broadcasted over the greater New York boroughs and into upstate New York one day. And it was probably like March or April, probably prior to April 15th for sure. And you know, so that’s really how I met Bob. Was just on the radio and came to find out that he, you know, was very well known in New York for keep holding the government accountable. And he, he basically had an idea.

Well, his show was typically would ask the listeners, what should we do next? You know, what we found out this information, what should we do about it? Which again is a great posture to have. And so the idea that was cooked up was that there would be a symposium in Washington D.C. at the National Press Club, which some may know is like, literally right across the street from the Treasury Building. And, you know, like, literally right, right, right from the White House. It’s literally like a block away, as I recall. And so Bob, you know, having media connections and all the experience that he had, I don’t know if he was maybe, what, in his 60s at the time, now he’s in his 80s.

Anyway, so he set up this whole symposium. And like I said before, I’m just kind of going where I’m invited. And so Bob decided to have this symposium, and he invited not only myself, but some of the people that I referred to in my report that I had issued to the irs. And you may even remember, because of various advertisements and your involvement so far back, what’s it called? I forget what the symposium was even called. Do you recall? The first one did not have a name. But what I do remember, Joe, was that it was.

Bill Conklin was there because he talked about the right to be silent. The Fifth Amendment protects our right to be silent, if not information. The government that they accused against you. And we had. Bill Benson was there talking about the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution not being probably ratified. And you were. The three of you were the main stars. DV kid spoke a little bit also, but that was the big thing about it. But the way it got extra publicity was really the interesting thing about it. You ought to tell our listeners how it got more publicity.

You guys planned on a symposium? Well, yeah, maybe it was just called, like, symposium on the Income Tax. But anyway, what happened was. And I don’t know whether Bob had anything to do with this or this is just typical, but C span, which again, we’re talking 1999 versus today, you know, C SPAN a lot of times was how people would get news about what was going on in D.C. and as I understand it, especially people in Congress, the staffers, the congressmen, congresswomen, the senators would have CNN going in their. I’m sorry, cnn, C SPAN going on in their offices and throughout the halls of the Capitol and the White House and everywhere.

So in terms of a media organ that DC was dialed into, C SPAN was definitely that. And so however it came about, C span covered that July 1999 symposium. And so we learned, the group of us who spoke, and Bob as well. And you know Bob, once I had. Once Bob had me on his radio show, we became, when I say close, you know, we have geographically far away. I’ve never been to his house. I don’t think he’s ever been to mine. But he definitely. We kept in close contact because we had a similar goal, you know, to hold the federal government accountable regarding the income tax.

And so I learned from him that being the symposium being broadcast on C SPAN was huge. I mean like it literally got everyone’s attention in D.C. or, you know. Let me interrupt you for a second, Joe. Here’s how I remember what happened there. What happened was that C SPAN was supposed to cover something at this place, but those guys got canceled. And right next door to them at the National Press Club, the symposium that Bob Schultz set up with you and others was going was scheduled. So C SPAN staff figured that, well, this event we’re going to cover got canceled.

But there’s another one right here. We can cover this one while we add it on income tax. They go, that’s interesting topic. What the heck, we’re already here. And when they did that, that was seen widely, not just by D.C. but this was C SPAN was a lot of people across America used to see because it was cable news shows back at the time. You still have broadcast them with antennas in America. Cable news was big, you know, so you have no Internet. I mean YouTube was very, very new at the time, you know, so this guy, in fact.

And they sold, I remember the video of it three and a half hours. They sold it for like, I think like 50, 60 bucks of back then money. And that was the most sold recording of C SPAN that they ever had in DNA broadcast in America. People could buy the video of it to play at their home. But this was the most requested one they ever had in history. So yes, that was a huge thing. Was a luck that C SPAN cupboard there, there symposium by accident, basically. Yeah, but. But this was not the first time though, you know, by the way, that available on our website and on Joe’s website is available.

We call it Illegality and Care Tax exposed. It was done July 1999. So. But after that though, tell us about the US City at Hall that ended up being on the, you know, several times on US Citizens today. Please, Joe, I’m sorry about the ads. Yeah, because there was more symposiums that was done by Bob and correct me if I’m wrong, he invited the irs. He invited the Department of Injustice, his leadership doj. He invited heads of Congress. Someone from the President’s office was contacted and writing hey, come and send somebody. Come on debate. Joe Bannister.

And also by that time former IRS agent Sherry Jackson and John Turner had stepped forward contacted because of you, Bob Schultz and they said, hey, we’re former Irish agents and we agree with Joe. The income tax is a giant fraud. Right. So now instead of just Joe alone, he became the three amigos, the three of you together, you know, and so that symposiums, additional ones in D.C. and how many times government showed up to his symposiums, Joe? Exactly zero. They never ever showed up. In fact, I remember one time, correct me if I’m wrong, Joe, you were there at around the IRS building with Bob Schultz.

You guys were demonstrating in there and the commissioner Iris was seeing you guys from up there, but wouldn’t come down, agree to debate you guys or you or send somebody else. Is that correct? Yes. There’s a picture of Sherry, John and I with Bob and we’re standing outside of the treasury building because they wouldn’t let us in. And inside was a press conference that was being held by the IRS commissioner and David K. Johnston, formerly with the New York Times, who I’m not really the greatest fan of, but he posed the question. A bit mishmashed, but he posed a question which you probably have on your website too, and it’s America, Freedom to Fascism.

Where as I recall, David K. Johnston asked the commissioner, there’s a group of people outside. He was referring to us, Bob, Sherry, Joe and John. There’s a group of people outside who claim that we’re not required to pay taxes. So of course, right away, I don’t like he doesn’t specify about income taxes because that’s a huge difference between just saying taxes generically and income taxes. But anyway, still glad that he asked the question and he asked it of, what was that commissioner’s name? Iverson. Iverson, right. So anyway, and again, maybe you can splice in or put a link when you have this archive, this interview.

Yes, it’s a great, I mean, it’s like a once in a lifetime question. Not quite the question I would have asked, but very good for a New York Times reporter and also the commissioner’s response. And of course, you know, after being directly asked by a New York Times reporter, is there a law that requires us to pay taxes? And all that the commissioner can say is, well, I’ve been paying my taxes since I was, you know, 12 years old and my paper route, you know, I mean, and we need, we need money for wars and welfare and, you know, blah, blah, blah.

But he couldn’t point to a single law. And then the maybe it was like a deputy commissioner female lady pushes him out of the way like, well, we don’t want to have any more from the commissioner right now. So the leapfrogging, the building of. Of effort, it just grew exponentially. And as I say, I mean, you, you know, maybe Bob Schulz wouldn’t have even known about me if you hadn’t had me speak at your rally or didn’t see a flyer or one of his listeners didn’t. And I mean literally. And this is a lesson that I always tell people who feel like they’re not doing anything worthwhile for the good of the cause.

DV Kidd wasn’t getting paid for any of her radio shows. Hundreds that she did, maybe thousands. But there was an IRS special agent who just happened to be listening that one day in 1996 when she was on KSFO in the San Francisco Bay Area. And so who knows how many other times she was on shows, spoke. Nobody really cared or, you know, nobody of consequence or people who could be of consequence didn’t do anything about it. Whatever, you keep trying, you know, you keep taking a bite at the apple. And so in a similar way, you know, you and I worked closely together in 1997, 98, before I even resigned, continued to.

You introduced me to other people who were skeptical, you know, if I was sincere. And we just kept building, building, building. And so, you know, the interview or that question from Johnston to the commissioner probably wouldn’t have happened without the we the People effort, but the we the People effort wouldn’t have happened without the Bob Scholz interview with Joe Bannister. And then that wouldn’t have happened if, you know, there wasn’t a March Freedom Law School rally. So, I mean, we just, we need to keep trying and keep being sincere, keep being good examples. And, you know, ultimately it’s going to be God’s timetable, whether, you know, when we get delivered from the income tax.

But all we can do is do our best, tell the truth. And anyway, that’s what was going on with Bob Schulz and the we the People Foundation. He interspersed with these symposiums. One, as you say, happened in July 1999. I think another one was in November 1999, and there were three or four USA Today ads. Bob, as he always did, he said, well, what do we do next? You know, we have our July symposium and the government doesn’t show up, even though they’re invited. And we have our November symposium and the government’s invited. We’re literally right across the street.

They can just walk across the street and have a talk with us. No government shows up. And believe me, Bob had invited them officially. So at One point he’s like, well, what else do we do? And so the idea came up that we create full page, like centerfold ads in, in the USA Today. And again, for those people who were born, you know, after 2000 or in the late 90s, a lot of us had to rely on newspapers for our news. And so. And the USA Today was delivered to millions of hotel rooms. That was the way that they would, you know, filter their controlled news to millions of people traveling.

And so the idea was hatched. Well, why don’t we put full page ads in the USA Today so that when people open up their paper in the morning and they’re sipping their coffee and they’re like, what’s this? The income tax is a scam. I mean, where else would they ever hear that or see that? In 1999, in 2000. So the ads were very effective. In fact, I think they were so effective that by the time the Bob wanted to run an additional ad, the USA Today refused to accept his money and run the ad. Yes, after the 4th AD, because they’re each, I think 50,000 each, if I remember, or 25,000, I think 40,000 each.

It was Mike Bodeen’s idea, is Bob’s assistant. So let’s try that, see how that works. And Mike Bodin gave his, actually, that was a lot of money back then. And like to him, a lot of his own personal money funded it. The first one. And after the first one that came out in 2000, then there was three more done in early 2001. And then after that, then the USA told Bob Schultz, no more ads for you. We don’t want your money. Obviously they were contacted by the IRS and saying, you’re giving these bad guys exposure, publicity.

Let’s cancel their way of reaching the American people. And I’m going to show people right here, guys, this is the very first one of the yesterday ads that came out in 99. And so. But what was most interesting, I remember Joe in this one, is that Bob put in here the part in green you cannot read very well, but I’ll read it for you. That citizens cannot voluntarily file a federal income tax return without surrendering their Fifth Amendment right to not to bear witness against themselves. But here’s the most interesting part. On June 2, the White House reneged on their promises it made during the April 13 meeting.

As with three previous conferences, the government has again refused to debate the grievances. And Jason Furman of the White House, he was the senior economic adviser of the National Economic Council. Okay, he told Bob Schultz the legality of the income tax is not a high priority item at the White House and we will not participate in any commerce on this subject, end of quote. So I saw that in the answer. I thought, whoa, they’re open about it. They don’t care if they get your money before the constitution and laws to the federal government, we the American people, you are simply a dumb stupid sheep for them to shame make you afraid of them.

Stand in line, assure you of your Wolf, you need to stay warm. No, the government will take your money. We damn the laws of the Constitution. They don’t care to discuss the legality and income tax. And obviously this mafia does not want to participate in any conference on the subject. Well, why would they? Why would they? Why would any criminal or mobster want to have a debate about the criminality, the acts of criminality they’ve done? They don’t want to give exposure to it. They want to cover it up. So that’s the thing that really got my attention.

Joe, I remember about that and I remember Joe, that around this time Joe Bob told me one time he had 120,000 people on his email list. Back then, people remember there was no social media. Maybe MySpace was just getting started. There was no Facebook. So that was pretty big. 120,000 people were interested opt in to get emails and faxes, more than that as well. And those got forwarded to other people, you know, those emails and faxes. So this was a movement really going big. And when us they said no more ads for you. Then Bob Schultz put ad in the New York Times and he did that while the American Free Press.

And then he also, Joy, if you remember, he had us all travel from across America with remonstrance which is like a complaint to government to follow the constitution on income tax and declare war by Congress, not the president, stuff like that. And we all drove, myself and you from California, many others drove to go serve our congress members about the government must follow the US Constitution and laws. And we served our congressman in person as much as we could. I was lucky enough to be one of them. I think maybe just a few people who actually got to meet my congressman.

Okay. And his name was Lewis in person. I think his wife liked me. She just let me in because I was the president of Freedom Law School. She thought I was a young law school president like Harvard, you know. She said no, it’s a home based law school. She let me in, talked to him and I talked to him about this stuff. But typical rhino political Hack, you know, I could tell he had not interest in this stuff at all. And so we did all that stuff together back in those days. But maybe you could tell our audience a little bit more the last symposium that we, that we did with Larry Beecraft and John Turner, a couple other people.

Tell everybody about that symposium, please, Joe. Sure. Well, that was the Truth in Taxation hearing. Yes. And what happened was, you know, there were, I mean, we could go on and on, couldn’t we, about all the, all the efforts that we made. Significant, significant efforts. But Bob Scholz decided that he was going to do a hunger fast and stop, stop eating and patrol the halls of Congress until he could get someone to agree to hear our, our petitions, our grievances about the income tax. Know here, look at our evidence showing that we’re being lied to about the income tax.

And so finally, Roscoe Bartlett, who was a congressman from Maryland, noticed that Bob had a constitution in his pocket, which Bob always carried. And it turns out that Roscoe Bartlett also always carried a constitution in his pocket. And so they began chatting and Bob was able to secure Roscoe Bartlett’s cooperation in scheduling a hearing, like an actual official congressional hearing. And so of course, in the past, as we discussed earlier in your show, government never showed up, but maybe if we can get a congressman involved, we can get them to show up. So they actually had a meeting.

Bob Schultz, Roscoe Bartlett, the House rep, and Dan Bryant, who was in the doj, high up in the DOJ at the time. And apparently there was a, might have been an IRS official too, I don’t recall. But they actually signed a letter on Roscoe Bartlett’s letterhead, the doj, that they would supply DOJ officials to, to attend this congressional hearing on the income tax. And as I was told, the IRS agreed to supply people, but the IRS wouldn’t put it in writing, if you can believe the irony. So this, that was, it was like, I think in the summer of 2001.

Yes, correct. And, and the, the hearing was supposed to occur like in September, October and September 11th happened. The twin Towers attacks, the Pentagon. And all of a sudden they had a great excuse to say, we can’t, we can’t have the hearing anymore because, you know, the country’s, you know, basically everybody has to batten down the hatches. We’re in a war. We can’t be dealing with these domestic issues. And they decided that we’re not bringing our people. DOJ backed out, IRS backed out, and Roscoe Bartlett backed out. And so for all those efforts to get a hearing.

Congress, you know, our congressperson, Roscoe Bartlett, refused to continue to help us. So Bob, to his credit, so. Well, that’s not going to stop us. We may not be able to hold the hearing officially within the halls of Congress, but we’re going to have one anyway. Before we go on to that, Joe, let me just add a little bit, if I may, that Bob decided to have a hunger fast to death. I mean, literally. And he had like, I think 40 days plus of hunger fast before Congressman Bartlett said, hey, listen, I’ll help out with this thing, you know.

But 9-11-9, 11 was the excuse for the government to say, oh, we don’t want to do this thing now we got to deal with terrorists out there. All this other stuff inside, which put him off later on, which many people feel today. The Epstein file, you know, scandal, which has been showing up and getting worse and worse and worse. Many people feel that’s what’s going on with the war against Iran. Okay, now Epstein’s file openness takes a back seat to we have war going on with this terrorist nation. The government says we have to go bomb them to pieces.

So this was the same kind of a thing. Looks like they did, Joe, here in this situation. So they got out of it that way. But tell us about that symposium after that, huh? So we did end up scheduling it anyway, and all of the witnesses, you know, we were all preparing for a congressional hearing, so designating witnesses and gathering evidence. So we were already doing that anyway. And so Bob had to a, you know, reserve hotel, I forget, you know, somewhere in D.C. or Virginia, right in the belly of the beast, and reserve a whole conference room and, you know, a huge symposium not only for the participants, but all the audience to see live.

And so, you know, it was really impressive when you consider, you know, 25 years ago, the kind of technology that was available. But as far as I recall, it was live streamed. Of course, there was a recording made of the entire proceeding, and one by one, witnesses were brought forward with evidence. And so people like myself, former IRS revenue officer John Turner, former IRS revenue agent Sherry Jackson, I don’t know if you recall, call Paul Chapel. He was a Treasury lawyer back in the 50s when they revised the 39 internal revenue code to become the 1954 internal revenue code.

And Paul Chapel got in touch with me, one of dozens of attorneys, by the way, over the years that not only had learned the truth, but were willing to speak, speak, speak about it. But Paul, I thought, was one of the most extraordinary attorneys because he literally worked for the Treasury Department. He was part of the process of upgrading the 1939 Internal Revenue Code to the 1954 code. And yet he was calling me saying, you know, bravo, the income tax is a scam. It’s a vast majority. Americans aren’t required to pay it. So I was just gobsmacked, you know that.

And he was, I think he was in his 80s back in the early 2000s. Right. I mean, he’s very elderly. He actually was blind by that point. He had lost his eyesight, but he was still practicing law even with his minimal sight. Minimal to non existent sight. And Paul Chappell was also one of the people that testified. So again, maybe you’re really good at gathering footage. Maybe you’ve got some or all of that footage. I know Bob Schultz does. I’ve rewatched some of it even in the recent, the last few months. And just fascinating how, you know, how much evidence was put together and discussed and testified to and then.

But the one party that never showed up, despite multiple attempts and going into their backyard, Right. To get them to, to come to the table, was the government. Yep. They just absolutely refused over and over and over again, despite official invitations, despite us bending over backwards to accommodate them. And it’s just, it’s more than suspicious. Obviously they don’t want to debate because the debate will show that they’ve been lying to the American people for over 100 years. So, Joe, I think we’re about to wrap up this part two, because the part three, the last part, is going to be the most interesting part you don’t want to miss.

And that is when the IRS and the Department of Injustice was, were sick and tired of Joe Bannister going out there exposing a fraud to the American people. So they decide, you know what, we gotta put this guy out. So they decided to try to put Joe in prison. Okay. For which I’ll tell you they failed. But how they failed is going to be the next part three of this interview we’ll have when it happens sometime in early April. Okay. With Joe Banshee. So if you have not seen part one, go see that the link is below.

The video is mentioned in the. You heard here. We’re going to put the links to them and the ones that we have at in this description below. They will also be put on Joe Van’s website. Pretty soon we’re going to put it on there as well. So Joe, you want to give me your website one more time, please, for people to check out? Sure. Thank you. Agent for truth. That’s f o r agentfortruth.com Yep. So there it is, people. You know, the government has not been working for you for a long time. You’ve been working for them.

It’s the other way around. That’s how the founding fathers didn’t want to be the way it is today. And to change if it’s to be a different outcome, to be the way it was under the founding fathers, that should be today. It’s up to you and me. And if not now, when? When will we as Americans take action and speak? Stop this fraud Iron American people. Our families pay for all this corruption. There’s wars. This war with Iran could end up being World War 3. The Epstein blackmail cover up for Israel. That’s being covered up right now because that’s why they didn’t want to shut it down.

You’re going to expose the. We have an occupied government. Israel Epstein was not Chinese one night Russian was not from Egypt, you know, or France. He was a Zionist Jew in coats with Mossad. Okay. And doing a blackmail operation. That’s why there’s wars going on right now. Okay? On behalf of a country. We have no formal alliance like we have with NATO countries like England and Germany and France because they bought our government, our politicians. We’re going to get it back with our money. Your money not going to our enemies. Not going to enemies the American people.

But you keep it support truth telling freedom media out there and elect people that represent the American people in the Constitution. Like former congressman Ron Paul, the current congressman Thomas Massie. We can do it if you stop giving back billions of our minds to the enemies. Take it back for ourselves, our families and elect people fun Electra people that represent you and me, the American people. So go to freedomlawschool.org to take action to do something about this now. Freedomlawschool.org on a drive to and for work and shopping. Play our videos. You’ll know it all in a matter of just a few weeks at most.

Joe Barons website Go there. Listen. Watch his interviews. Okay? So Joe, do you have any last comments you want to say to audience before we close this interview until the next one. Just kind of mentioned it before but just be a good example to everyone. You know, let’s all stay calm. Let’s. Let’s make sure that when we discuss this issue people go wow, that. That guy makes a lot of sense. Or that gal makes a lot of sense. You know, we just have to be patient but keep working at it. We’ve Made tremendous progress over the last, well, decades and decades, long before you and I came on board.

Right. But we just keep chipping away at it and we will eventually, you know, establish honorable or honest taxation, at least constitutional taxation. That’s a good start. So thanks to everyone and God bless everyone. Thank you for being with us, Josh. I appreciate you. Thank you. All right, my brothers, sisters, I’m going to end this thing for tonight and I invite you to know that you were meant to live free, otherwise you would not have come across this broadcast. So now is up to you to take the next step and educate yourself and de brainwash yourself of the lies of the past that oh, the safe thing to do is to file income tax anyways because otherwise they’ll get you if you don’t file.

I’m afraid that’s all lies. 80 million plus non filers out there. Yes, 80 million plus, folks. Don’t be afraid. Stop putting the rope around your neck. Stop giving it to the Irish for that 1040 form. That’s what gets you do not file that 1040 form unless you become a citizen or resident of Washington dc. They’re the only people by law required to file and pay federal income taxes. The people of 50 states like you and me were never meant to pay. We’ve been duped and tricked, then coerce through mental games to become slaves. So with that, I give you all my love and I wish you all the very best to be free as individual, as families and working together, we can have America be free again.

We can restore freedom. We have a Restore Freedom plan. Also check it out on our website, freedomlock.org thank you. Okay, we’re going to go to the people with questions. You ask questions of me or Joe, just announce when you ask your question. If you ask questions of me, can they take calls from Joe, sir? Or no? Oh, yo, yes, maybe Joe. Maybe can call and pass. No. Okay, all right, so but analysis. You have a question of me or Joe? We hope Joe may be available. Okay, so the number to call, we’re going to put it on the screen.

By the way, our phone number is 813-44-4800, our regular office number. Call us if you have questions. Call us. We’ll answer the phone for you. Okay? And to call, ask a question now, call 442-I’m sorry, 424-552-1299 and then press 1 on your keypad, 424-552-1299, and press 1 on your telephone keypad. Right now we have A call from vehicle 502. You’re live, my friend from 502 area code. Caller, give me your first name, how you heard about Freedom Law School. And then your question please. Yes, sir. David found you on the Internet and I found a page on your site about how to win an IRS summons.

And it directs me to contact Freedom Law School for a referral to competent and experienced legal counsel. That’s actually what I’m asking for of emailed support. And they told me to call. I can barely hear you. Get close to microphone, please. Get close to microphone, Dave. Go ahead. Continue, please. Yes, sir. Can you hear me now? Much better. Yes. I could strain to hear you. So you, you saw the article about how to be we be meeting Irish summons every time on our website. Good job. And what was your question about? You said David. It just says contact Freedom Law School for a referral to competent and experienced counsel.

So I’m need to file suit and I emailed support, you know, to ask them for the referral and they said to call in and ask you about it. Okay, let me ask you some questions right now. Are they something you or a third party? Like your bank and the years that they’re asking about, do you file 10, 40 income tax confession forms with the IRS or not? Yeah, I did because this is about filing years that where I had filed the 1040s before I found out about your system of not filing. But my, my filing is based on the same principles that we’re discussing here.

You know, the fact that, you know, I’m not technically required to pay the tax. And so I filed a, you know, zeroed out corrected form. And that’s, that’s what I’m in a dispute about. So I haven’t been following your system, unfortunately, but it’s the same principle. And that’s why I’m hoping an attorney that you’re affiliated with would be able to help me because they would understand the principles involved. Did you do the Peach Henderson, the zero return? Is that what happened? I’m sorry, whose method did you follow and follow zero returns that got you here? Pete Hendrickson? No, the gentleman that taught me the system.

I don’t know that he has a presence on the Internet. He calls it sacred income. But it’s basically this. It’s very similar to, to your system, except it’s filing a zeroed out return instead of not filing. Okay, all right, first let me clarify the difference. They don’t, they, they’re talking about income tax being a fraud on American people. We agree on that we belong to the right church. Okay? But I don’t know this guy, so I don’t know exactly what he teaches. And there is a reason why I don’t do zero returns or don’t recommend them.

Because of cases like yours, people want to get that withholding money back that employee withheld from your paycheck. Sometimes it works. And advertise the cases that does work, hey, look at this guy. Got a refund. 10,000, 50,000. But again, the cases that do not work like yours, they don’t advertise that. They don’t tell you that sometimes they do not work. Instead, the IRS may come after you for some of your bank records, you know, come after you for, you know, additional tax and penalties. And I imagine you got no refund number one from a zero return.

Instead, the Irish is summoning your bank records, correct? No, they just sent me a, you know, letter 105C that they’re denying my claim, but the letter says that I can file suit. So that. That’s what I’m looking for, is an attorney to help me file suit in accordance with the principles that you teach at Freedom Law School, which are the same principles that my filing is based on. Okay. How much are you trying to get back? How much was withheld from your paycheck? Total over multiple returns is probably $130,000 for what years? 20, 20, 2023, 2024.

And probably going to be 2025, too. 2021, 22, 23, 24. Four years. Three years total so far right now. 2023. What other year? 20, 20, 2023 and 2024 are the ones where I’m interested in filing a suit with the IRS immediately to get the refunds back. Okay, now that’s a separate thing from IRS summon situation. Totally for different things. Exactly. The summons is they want to get your bank records probably to use against you to try to come up with tax claims or assessments. Right. Okay. Refill lawsuits. You want a separate thing? Let’s address them separate.

Individually. Okay, so. Right. Are you waiting all these years or not? You could still. That’s the keyboard. Let me ask you, I’m sorry, are you a wage earner all these years or were you self employed in. In these years? 20, 23, 24. Oh, W2. Wage income for all the years. Okay. All right, here’s the problem. You got. Okay. Attorneys do not know this stuff like I do, unfortunately, because they don’t teach them this stuff in law school. And law school, attorneys are told to read court cases about this aspect of the Constitution, this part of the Constitution or other court cases and then debate it in learn from it.

They’re not touched. Hardly anything about income tax at all, if anything. So. But I’m not an attorney to represent you. So I gotta refer you to an attorney if you want to get that kind of help. And the problem is these attorneys do not believe in what you do. The few that do believe in you, and I know them, they would not want to do this either because they’ll know the courts are corrupt and you’re very likely going to lose even if I were to do it. The courts are corrupt. You were like most of us, like me.

You are naive to believe we have a government of that they really follow the law explicitly. But there exists, David Judicial conspiracy to protect and preserve the Federal Income Tax and the Federal Reserve Money System Fraud. No judge in America I believe will say maybe very rare one, one in a thousand maybe would say, hey, income tax is a fraud. The Federal Reserve System is a fraud on American people. So you’re unlikely to be able to get your money back. Even if you were to spend maybe $50,000 or more. Try and get your money back. Attorneys are not cheap.

Typical rate for an attorney is about $300 $2,000 an hour for one hour of work. Eight day, one day’s worth of attorney. Sure. So you’re not going to find anybody to do that. About the summons thing, I can help you with that summon situation if you become a Restore Freedom Plan member. But here’s the problem. The problem is what for what would you accomplish in your particular case if they get your bank records, you said you’re a wage earner. They know how much you make from the W2 that your employer said to the IRS they’re going to get your bank records.

What would it show? These dummies at the IRS are suspecting you may have millions of unreported self employment income or some sort. You do a report or mention in your request for a refund on your zero return tax. That’s what they’re thinking is idiots at the irs. But at the end they’re going to get nothing more that they know your job paid you so much a year on your W2 form, they report to the IRS and that’s it. Why would you spend any money? Stop the IRS wasting their money, wasting their resources. Okay, if you want to pay some lawyer, you can do that.

But why? It will not accomplish anything for you. Okay. And refund claim also, like I said, they’re not Going to get that money back. Bottom line, the best you can do is go from here forward. Dave, Stop income tax withholding for your paycheck now, so you don’t have to file as your return to get the money back. Stop the stealing in the first place rather than later going to a thief and say, hey, here’s a form I filled out. Give my money you stole back. Of course you do that by deceiving my employer to steal out of my paycheck.

But nonetheless, it’s the same result. So if I was you, I would just go on from here. Let that go. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars when you’re 99% going to waste it? You’re not going to win anyways. Okay? Does that help you understand your situation better? What you want to do, if anything? Join a Restore Freedom plan. Stop filing income taxes so you can be 100% protected or on your own on our website’s for free freedomlawschool.org Stop the income tax. Become holding. No more 1040 filing at 99/%. You’d be left alone from here forward.

But the back stuff, sorry to say, best thing you can do is let go. This guy charged you money based upon greed. I know you want your money. You work hard for it. Is your money belongs to you, the 130,000. You deserve it back. I agree with you 100%. But as you noticed, they did not give you money back. Instead, they’re harassing you. See, he didn’t tell you that. So it is what it is. The best you can do is just move on from here, my friend. Any other questions? So you’re telling me you know zero attorneys that are familiar with your teachings that you could refer me to, despite your website referring me to you for a referral? I never said that.

I said I know attorneys that know what I do, teach and work with me. I’m gonna tell you, even with them, the judges are corrupt and we’re not gonna give you money back. Do you hear me on that point? The judges. Don’t you think it would benefit them to still have the opportunity to take my money? No, because those guys are very busy. I’m literally just looking for a name in the address of an attorney that understands what you teach. That’s. That’s all I’m looking for. If you want to know turn out what I teach, I give a number of Larry Kraft, I give a number of Peter Gibbons.

Okay? Understand what I teach, but on your situation, they’ll tell you the same thing I say. Basically, you want to pay them hourly to hear the same thing? You can do that. Okay. Call my office. Ask for the number of Peter Gibbons and Larry Beecraft. They’ll give it to you. Chip Hamon said, I get it from you. Call, they’ll give it to you. But what you’re doing. Okay. Is Peter Gibbons. And what was the B craft? B, E, C, R, A, F, T. You want to do that, go ahead. Thank you very much, sir. But I’m telling you, David, here’s the thing.

I know you have your eye and mind set on this thing. But I’m suggesting you had to be open to learning from me. Otherwise, you know, waste all this money on. At best, you know, waste money, spot out. It’s not gonna go nowhere. You gotta stop the income tax withholding. Patients totally hear what you’re saying. Yeah, do that first. And then understand what you’re saying. And then no more have to file these forms. That’s the biggest thing. Because for the rest of your life, decades, you’ll be free. Focus that. Okay. $130,000. I’m sorry. I wish there was a way I could tell you to get the money back or turn it back.

But I don’t want to deceive you or lie to you. And like the last guy tell you what you want to hear versus the truth. You want to hear that I can get you somebody or myself. That will get your money back. But it doesn’t. It’s not going to work. Realistically. Otherwise, you know, I would have done the same myself all the time. People call me all the time from, you know, from people done. The zero type returns. Like you get the money back. They don’t work. Sometimes. Sometimes they do. Okay. So anyhow. So I wish you very best day.

Thank you for calling my friend. Okay. Thank you very much. My pleasure, David. All right, we have a call from ECO 510 and another one from area code 95151 Oreo code caller, please. Give me your first name. I heard about Freedom Law School. And then your question please? My name is Julie. And my question is Julie. Hold on. Get close to microphone. I can barely hear you. Number one, one. Number two, how did you hear about Freedom Law School? And then your question? Oh, I found it some on some email. I don’t know. I probably some of the.

It was either on YouTube or some truth or news email thing that I belong to. Okay, no problem. How can I help you? Yeah, I don’t remember. That’s okay. Well, I want to sign up with you. And I’M putting some money in an envelope and I’m going to mail it for a consultation for a half hour with the law school expert. But the thing is I, if I understand it, and correct me if I’m wrong, do you need me to mail to you my tax preparation document before you can begin anything that’s related to the situation? You got send that to me.

Well, okay, but here’s the problem. I have a tax accountant and they’re very. Everybody. All the tax people that I know today in my area, they’re all automated so they, it’s very difficult to get them not to E file. And they set it up from the very beginning to E file. And I don’t want that to happen because then I’m going to be in trouble. So I’m looking to see if you can refer me to a tax preparation person who won’t E file for me. Okay. Did you call my office about that? I’m sorry, what? Did you call my office for referral to an accountant that will not the E file that will give you the paper.

Did I call the office? Okay, you mean the Freedom, the Freedom Law School office? Yes. No, I don’t know what their number is. I just have this number. Our number is 813-444-8813, 444-4800. Call. Okay. And we have, we have a account. I don’t name Michael. Okay, ask for Michael’s phone number. They’ll give it to you. If they’re not, have them ask me. I’ll tell them who it is because I think you want that for you state tax return, is that correct? If I remember, someone like you called in recently about this kind of issue. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was you saying, I just need somebody to work with me to get my taxes ready so I can give them to you guys and not send them to the irs because I want to work with you guys. Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. What do you, what are you for a living? That’s the way I said. Well, I’m semi retired. I would say I’m 99% retired. But I. What I, I do have like a very small income from coaching client. I’m self employed. I do coach clients. I coach people. How much is your income? Approximately between 50 to 100,000, 100 to 200,000, 500,000 to a million.

Roughly what neighborhood is about. No, no, my income last year was probably about $10,000. And then if you add my Social Security, that would be, you know, 40,000 altogether. Okay, listen, you make so. Well, you don’t need to do all that stuff. Wait, I know. For $10,000 of income. I just told pay an accountant you don’t need that. Hon, just. Just put on the application. You made $10,000 from your own business and $40,000 from Social Security on a calculator and see what your membership will be. Very simple. You don’t have to go through all that expense.

Okay, I’ll do it for you right now. Well, wait, wait. Yes. Wait, wait. There’s one other piece of information. Yes. I just sold my house and I. The revenue was 1.71 million 700,000. And I think they sent that. The mortgage company sent that to the government, I think. Yes, yes. So is there anything we can do about. So I owe 250,000 in capital gains tax. Who told you that you owe 250,000 capital gains tax? Well, I called my attorney, my tax person before I sold the house to calculate what I would owe, and that’s what we figured out.

Okay. Tell them to print this. Whatever it is you got. The calculations does not have to be the form. Just send the calculations to you by email or mail. It does not have to be the form. We will accept his calculations, and based upon that, we can do your membership application. That’s not a problem. You don’t have to fill out the IRS 1044. Okay. I do. Action. Just get from the accountant the calculation of how from $1.7 million sale of the house that you owe 250,000 to the bank. How did he come up with that? You owe the IRS 250,000.

Just have him give you the calculations. Does it not have to be in a 1040 form at all? Okay. Oh, okay. Oh, I don’t think they’ll put that in writing, though. I’ll tell you what, Julie. Julie, I got your number. I’ll have somebody call you tomorrow. I’ll make sure myself and coach to help you through this process how to do it right. That works for you and your counselor. Okay. Sorry about they didn’t get to me. I’ve been very busy. Very, very busy. So that’s why I didn’t get to this thing. Okay. Because I heard about your case, but I didn’t get to really pay attention to it.

I’ve been very, very busy. But I’ll take care of it by talking to them. And I got your number. Okay. And you can call also. Okay. Tell them you talk to me. If they don’t give it to somebody else, one of my managers. We’ll take care of you on this injury. Sorry about the lack of communication with you about your situation. Oh, no problem. You’re not remiss at all. I’m just very grateful to meet you. It is my pleasure to meet you as well. Thank you very much for all the good work you’re doing. You’re welcome.

Julie, let me ask you, Your phone number, 510 is from Oakland, California. Is that where you still live there, or where do you live now? Yes, I live in Berkeley, California. When do you plan to leave that communist republic of California? Berkeley. Oh, my God. As soon as I find somewhere to go. I can’t stand it here. Every day I think I’ve got to get out of here, but I don’t know where to go. Of course, Florida is the answer. Just come to Florida. Well, no, Florida’s not my cup of tea. But maybe Nebraska. I don’t know.

What do you like? You like mountains? I don’t know. What do you mean it’s not your cup of tea? Florida. What is your cup of tea? Oh, Florida’s too glitzy for me. It’s too much like la. No, I. I mean Mount Dasta. You think about Miami, what you go. You can live in a countryside, suburbs. I live on seven acres myself, about 40 minutes north of Tampa. I don’t live in a big city. Okay, that behind me is a phony fake screen. It’s not really. I don’t live in front of the water. Okay, so, yeah, just when you call tomorrow, mention that also we’ll help you.

You sold the house. You can buy yourself a quiet place, peaceful in a countryside of Florida. And we’ll help you with that also at no extra charge. Okay? Okay. Okay. All right, very good. All right. Okay, I will call tomorrow. Thank you again. You’re welcome. Julie, thank you for calling. It’s a pleasure to meet you as well. Okay, bye bye, bye, bye. Okay, we have now two more callers waiting. One from area code nine five one. Another one from area code 971. 951 area code. Caller, please give me your first name, how you heard about Freedom Law School.

And then your question, please. Hey, Peymon, my name is John Jordan. And how did you hear about Freedom Law School? I’ve heard about you guys, I think, back in 2017 or 2018 from my late father. Wow. Okay. Wow. Okay. What took you so long to call us? Yeah. So back, back. I’ve been listening to you, to you for a long time. I’m a big fan. So back in 2018, I think I stopped paying, I stopped filing. So it’s been, I think about seven years roughly since I filed. You know, I’ve gotten the regular, you know, computer generated letters asking me to file.

The last letter that I have here in my hand that was just sent out last month to me was just another LT26 form. You know, please file your missing returns. And then I recently sold a boat and I had a large wire transfer. It was, it was about $14,000. And then the day after, if not maybe two days after, I had the criminal investigations department, you know, special agents knocking on my mother’s door, which is the last address that they have on file. Okay. And so they, they left a business card, asked me to, you know, please call them.

So I’m just wondering like, what’s the best way, you know, I signed up back in the, in 2018, I think it was with the, the beginners freedom package where you, you pretty much teach us how to do it ourselves. So I’m not like a paying. I didn’t upgrade ever. I had a really good grasp on everything I felt your program and you taught it very well. So I’m just wondering what’s the best way to go forward on like, should I even contact them? How do I, how do I respond? Well, what makes you think they contacted your mom about you? Did they say we’re looking for your son Jordan? Tell me more about that.

What makes you think so? Yes. Yeah. So my mom never talked to them, but they left a card and then on the card it says Jordan, please give me a call. Okay? Okay. All right. Well, I’m sorry you didn’t get with this upgrade to the Restore Freedom Plan or back that simple or Royal Freedom Package. But you can still join now so you can protect it from here forward. So that’s the first thing I recommend you do is join now for two. Yeah, definitely, definitely not opposed to joining the the plan now. I am not making the kind of money I was back, I don’t know, some of the, probably the first few years where I didn’t file, I was making close to 100,000 a year.

But yeah, just right now going through some financial trouble, you know, struggling small business owner and whatnot, trying to switch industries. So I’m not making a ton of money right now. But you know, I do, I am interested in joining the plan if you can help me, you know, move forward with how to deal with these guys. Well, as a member, then I can do one on one consultation for you about this issue you got. But let me Ask you a question? Yeah. Do you want to talk to these guys, Jordan? Do I want to? No, I don’t want to.

Then don’t talk to them. I’m not going to either. That’s it. So my first free advice for you is just you don’t have to talk to them. You’re under no legal obligation to call them back. Okay. So. Right. That’s right. Send that to us. Also write about the situation in your. In a separate note, we add to your file and as it develops, then we can watch what’s going on and maybe become recommendations. But did you ever send the petitions to your congressman? Yes, I did. When? And I have the certified copies that you guys provided back to me.

Great. I’m looking at them right now. I was just kind of. When? When. Yes. So these were dated back. These are all dated in2019. We did everything. May 23rd is the date on the letters to Senator Kamala Harris. Who else was it? Okay. It was Dianne Feinstein and Glenn Colbert. Culver. Oh, yeah. We. I did send all those letters. Good. And then I have the copies of, you know, Joe’s book. Big fan of Joe, obviously, too, as well. Okay. All right. So for right now, I would not talk to them because you don’t have to. There’s no law requiring you to talk to them.

Okay. Joint Restore Freedom plan. Right. And then summertime, and I’m also quite busy. Okay. Maybe you can do and have your paperwork and more fully your petitions, because back then 2019, we did send letters about Joe Bannister to the IRS, to Congress members. You got the old. Yeah, those are different. Yeah, those are very good. Still. They still work. Those are different. Okay. Yeah, but that was going to be a question I was going to ask. Yeah. If you guys have kind of pivoted on your. On your, you know, some of your tactics or whatnot that I’m not maybe up to date on.

Well, back then, that was the best thing. We have to confront the government about the Joe Bahrain’s story. Why don’t they show their own gun carrying agent the law he’s enforcing with a gun in hand. Okay, so that’s what we did. You have those and that. That’s good. That works. Okay. Okay. So you want to do new petitions also as a new member, but that will help you. I’m glad you did that. That makes a big difference for you, my friend. The difference is because you didn’t stay with us as a member, you know, now any legal cost will be extra charge.

Okay. Whether you pay me or an attorney is an extra charge. If you were a member, then there would be no extra charge about any of these things at all. Myself. Attorneys will be there for you, paid for. All I had to do was to maintain your membership, but still, I can help you, but I need every. It’s a yearly cost, right? Yearly cost. Your membership is dependent on how little you’re allowed. You owe the irs, which is based upon how much you make, basically. So the minimum membership is $2,000 a year. Okay? So call our office to help you out.

Tell them you call the Freedom Hour. Anybody you call tomorrow. We’ll help you with the membership. Everything easy to order? Yes. So just a quick question, too, just to kind of set my mind at ease. And I know, Joe, maybe you guys have talked about this before, but are these guys. Do you think it was like a. A routine door knock because of the large wire transfer? Because I know you know, if there’s wire transfers over ten grand, it does send out notifications, applications. No. Certain agencies like the FBI, the IRS and whatnot. Or do you think this is because of me not filing? The 14,000 wire transfer is not large.

Okay? They’re not asking because you. You got paid with 14,000. Well, if you Google it. If you Google it, it says it’s. It’s pretty widely known that any wire transfers over ten grand that the bank is required to notify, you know, certain agencies. Yes, they’re actually investigating. No, it’s not because of that. Because there is, you know, millions and millions of those reports go out, you know, by banks and third parties to the irs. It’s not because of that. Okay? I don’t know what it is, but one 14,000 transaction is not a big deal at all.

Okay, but wire transfers are not reported. It’s cash or 10,000 in or out of bank account. Those are reported, not wire transfers. So it’s not the reason why they come after you. I don’t know why at this point, but it’s not because of that. Okay. Yeah, that’s okay, because I thought that was for sure. Why that kind of makes me more worried now. But. But I shouldn’t be, like, looking over my shoulder or anything, right? No, you got a great, strong defense because you’ve done the petitions. We said I could defend you. Attorneys I get can defend you.

It’s just that it’s going to be extra charge. Okay? You don’t. You have to pay for attorneys or myself, help you out as a member. You know, that would have been no charge. For you as a Restore Freedom Plan member. But join the hand now. Okay, so I’m going to spend like 540 to be covered and that a pre existing problem. We’ll see as it develops. Maybe it won’t be that much. Maybe they’ll leave you alone. Maybe they want to ask you about somebody else. We don’t know that they’re asking for you. Maybe not about you.

Yeah, but they’re asking about somebody else perhaps. We don’t know that either. They could be, yeah. Because the guy who bought my boat, like he didn’t ask any questions. He didn’t try to haggle me. He paid my, my offer like he paid my asking price. He had his brother come drive down and like get the boat and like it was kind of, it seemed too good to be true, kinda. So maybe they’re being looked at and that now that I’m associated with his bank account, they came and knocked on my door. That’s a much more likely answer.

Yes. That’s in my opinion from what you told me so far, that’s most likely the case. It seems like yes. All right, Jordan. Yeah. The questions, brother. Okay, I’m gonna join, I’m gonna join the plan, you know, so I’ll do what I got to do. I think, I don’t know how it’s. I have to fill out a form first. Right. And get my. Because I’m just a small. I’m barely making any, any money right now. Maybe, maybe. I mean this year I don’t even know because I just, I’m a home inspector. I’ve. For the last five years, I don’t know, I’ve been pulling maybe 60, 70 grand.

But I was working as a subcontractor for another larger firm. Now I’m totally on my own, so I’m just barely making it by. Right, right, right. So I don’t know how we’re going to calculate my, my, my income for this year. It’s 2025 you want to protect. Okay. And go to our website, Freedom Law School. On the top center there’s a sign up, very top center. Click on sign up atfreedom law school.org and, and base everything off 20, 25. Yes, 25 you want to cover. Not 26, 25. 25 right now. Gotta protect yourself from 25. Okay.

Okay. Call her office and anybody can help you. 813-444-8800. Yeah, I got the number right here. All right, I’m gonna sign up. Payment. It was nice talking to you, man. You fan again. You’re welcome, my friend. Thanks for calling. And I think I’m gonna be moving to Florida. I’m probably going to be moving to Florida here soon. Yay. Good for you. I got to get out of this. Yep. I know. You live in, what, the San Bernardo county or Riverside county out there, right? Yeah, Yeah, I was. I was born in Riverside and I’ve been around here, you know, Temecula area, the suburbs for my whole life.

Yep. Good for you, my friend. Leave the con estate behind. There are greener pastures out there and free places like. Like Florida. Okay, thank you for calling. Jordan. We got two more callers waiting to get the questions answered. One from Arico 9. Let me see, 971, followed by a call from AmeriCorps4H4. So 971, Erica. Caller, please give me your first name. I heard about Freedom Law School. And then your question, please, Nine seven one, followed by call from Erica. Are you there, Erica? 971, Eric, call healing, are you there? I’m here. Can you hear me? Yes, go ahead.

What’s your name? Aaron. Eric, turn your computer down. Okay. So it doesn’t echo here because I. I hear myself. Okay. All right. Is that better? Yeah, it’s better. Yeah. Turn that down. Can you piece the oranges, guys? Yeah, yeah. All right. Eric with a C or CK or K? How do you spell your name, my friend? Avery. Avery. I heard you wrong. Sorry. Avery. How did you hear about Philomosco, Avery? Oh, I’ve known about you for quite a few years. I haven’t paid taxes, like over 10 years, and just want to say thank you for all your hard work.

You’re amazing. I really appreciate everything you’re doing right now. For the movement payment, I got about 150 of your fast track success brochures that I’m handing out at a huge networking event coming up this, this weekend. We’re gonna have like 70 different business owners coming of everything you could possibly imagine. They got employees, everything. Okay. And we’re gonna have probably, about, oh, 50, 60 real estate agents as well. And we’re gonna have a catered event. We’re all gonna meet up to get together so they can meet agents. Yeah, exactly what I got right there. You know it.

So what I wanted to ask you, now, they’re gonna have rent. We’re catering this thing with food and drinks. Everyone’s gonna have a great time. I’m probably gonna. At the, at the end of the event, I’m gonna hand these out to, to all the business owners and they Already, trust me, they’ve given their credit card number over the phone. You know, I film advertising and there was a lot of report with them. So, you know, we got good relationships going on. When I hand this to them, what would you say would be the best way to hand this to them and to get them to make it happen for themselves, so to speak.

Well, what would you say to them? I tell you what, there is no one size fits all answer necessarily because a lot of it depends on them know this, that their attitude, their mindset is number one, no matter what you say. I’ve had people that I’ll talk to myself and right off the bat you can see the person’s eyes rolling away like, oh gosh, I’m so uncomfortable. I want to get out of here. This guy’s going to get me in trouble. I better not listen to this guy anymore. You’re going to have some of that, okay? Then you get some people who are interested, they actually do want to listen to you some more.

So pay attention to that. Okay? But really the brochure just says it all right there. Okay, let me show it to you. All you gotta do is say, here’s a fast track your success in this brochure and 12 pages. It shows you how to lawfully and safely pay no income or payroll or self employment taxes. And with 100% guarantee if you choose. Why on the back? Because no law requires 99% of Americans to file and pay income and payroll taxes. $50,000 will be paid to you or your accountant if you want, or lawyer if you can show anything.

This 12 has Paige brochure that’s wrong. It proves that you right to the law. Okay? So that’s the first thing you want to do and see if you can get their interest. Now the ideal thing is if you can tell them a little bit more about all this. I would take a picture of yourself with these guys. Get their phone number, text them right away who they are, okay? So you remember them and they remember you so that you can follow up with them. Because that’s the key, the follow up. Okay, you can hand all these out to a bunch of people.

People just maybe just throw it away. They will not even look at it. Okay? The key is that relationship you build and then follow up with them. Because you cannot get to 150 people by yourself in a weekend. You can have maybe five really good conversations. Now what you can do, what you probably do want to do is, you know, I imagine you want to talk to more higher income people okay. So focus on those because the membership will be larger and so will the referral reward you receive will be larger. So generally speaking, older people have more years of experience in life, in business and success.

They make more money than the younger one. So if you see a 56 year old guy, I would talk to him on the average before I talk to a 20, 30 year old guy. Okay. That’s just the way it is on average. Also, men tend to make more than women primarily because you know women, they’re the ones got to give birth and nurse a baby that takes them out of work environment. Okay. So they cannot build that experience and knowledge. Like a man who has no child rearing responsibilities. He has more time to build his experience and knowledge.

So the guy probably on average makes more money than the woman. These are just averages. There’s of course exceptions to every one of these rules. Okay. So, and so jolie. So you could talk to people and find out out of a way what they do, how long they’ve been doing it for. And that’ll give you a little idea about, hey, this guy just barely struggling to make a living, like a last caller or a guy that makes maybe a million dollars a year. Successful rules today, general or better. That gives you a clue about how much you want to spend with this guy versus the bigger fish that you know.

And it’s 150 people you want to talk to. Those are some of the basic tips I have for you. Advertising in a real estate magazine. And I let them know that I’m gonna have a special surprise for them at the end of the event. So just gonna put a smile on their face a mile live. So I kind of primed the muff already. Do you get to speak at the event or it’s gonna be one on one meeting with these people? Yeah. Well, we’re gonna go up there and make an announcement to introduce everybody and give them a chance to get up and talk in front of the crowd and let them know, let the people know what type of service they offer and whatnot, type of business they are, what they specialize in, all that good stuff.

So you’ll get to talk for just a few minutes, introduce yourself on what do you do to type of thing, Is that correct? Like a networking thing? Yes, that’s a huge networking event we’re having at this like huge big brewery in like Bend, Oregon. And we got a whole bunch of people coming. Okay. Whole bunch, like probably over a hundred and food, drinks, and they get to meet with all the realtors all these business owners so they could start getting referrals from them. Okay. We’re bringing like a huge crowd together, like a power group. They can start helping each other out.

And. And I want to be the one to come down and give them the get out of tax free jail cards. You know what I mean? Yep. So what you want to do is this. Get only three minutes to talk to them. Three minutes. You tell them what I said, set up there. Okay. And then you spend on that. Exactly. And then go inside and say, look, this is Peymon, the president of Freedom law school, the guy behind us. For over 30 years, he has openly not filed and paid any federal income taxes. IRS knows him, had had him on their criminal and other investigations for over 30 years.

They can still not put him in prison because there’s no law requiring you or him to defined Pinkham tax. And he says, make sure that if you have time, then show a little bit about that 1040 form, the cartoon. Do not sign that 1040 form. Do not put the rope around your neck. Okay. No matter what you do, don’t do that. You show them. Look at this. Bring attention to that. That’s the worst you can do. Underpolitical perjury, you have to rope around your neck to go to prison for up to nine years. But I want signature when you go later on, look at this or ask me more.

So that’s it, in three minutes. That’s all. I love it. You have to get their attention. Then when they see that, they get open. They see it front and back. They go to the very back. Please look at me, my picture and the transparent form. They say, oh man, I didn’t know that I signed on a penalty perjury that time. How much I owe? You know the. So the one that are open minded and interested and say, I’ve heard about that. I was curious about that. My neighbor and my brother in law told me about this thing.

Whatever, right? Oh, I saw Peymon on Rumble or YouTube. You’re gonna come across some of those perhaps, right? So. Well, there you go. You already know. Well, let’s do it. So make that three minute count like that. And of course, what you want. Davary on the back of the bushroom, at the bottom of the back put your name and telephone number. So when they join, we ask them, how did you hear about us? Okay. The guys that talk to you, be sure, like I said, take a selfie with them. Okay? Text it to them. Because these guys, they want to network, they’ll do that, no problem.

That’s why they’re to network. They network the network. Get selfie I sent you. I’ll give you my name and phone number. What I do. And you text them. You are a real estate agent in let’s say, Portland, Oregon, and been with XYZ Realty, you know, for five years. Okay. So you said a little bit of a thing about them. And you. So when you later on follow up with them, when they go home a few days later or a week later, they remember you because that picture a selfie. And you remember who they are because you got a little quick description about them.

That reminds me you who he is and what you guys talked about. Okay. That’s what I recommend you do. Wow, I’m excited. Very good. Do it, Avery. Good job, my friend. You’re in the right place. Yeah. These Netflix so much fun. I. Yeah, go ahead. Hey, what’d you say? What were you saying? Go ahead. I said this. I’m so excited. This is. I just. I’m. I’m just so happy. This is going to be so great. And I am. I’ve been waiting for this for. For a while now. So I got all these people together. This is going to be like, get in the candy store, man.

We’re going to save a lot of people. Get them that’s. They’re all slaves. We’re going to. They’re going to be so happy. They are going to be so happy. I guarantee it. I’m glad you mentioned that. I’m going to be happy. I should be telling people guys to go join these networking clubs and go attend them and pass out our brochures. That’s a great idea. You do it, Avery. I’ve been to networking clubs before myself. That’s a great place to go network. Remember the guys we gotta go somehow get people to do more of that and look around.

All right, my friend, here are the questions before I go to the next caller. No, that’s it. Thank you so much. You have a good day. You’re welcome in. Give us the call back afterwards. Okay. Tell us how it went. We’ll be happy to help you. Oh, I will, man. I will. All right, my friend. Bye bye. Okay, 484 Erica. Caller, give us your first name, how you heard about field law school, and then your question, please. Are you there? Area code 484-caller. One more time. AREACAT 484 caller, are you there? You’re live with Freedom Law School.

Okay, looks like he is not there. So before we go to questions online or sometimes Send a question to me on paper. I’m going to take this person’s question. If you have a question you want to ask right now, the telephone line is open. You can get your question answered. Now call area code 424-552-1299 and then press 1 on your telephone keypad. Again. The number to dial is 424-552-1299. And press 1 on your telephone keypad to get the question answered. Right now I’m going to go to this few pieces of paper to answer the question from Dee.

And you can send up to 10 pages and I will my email, fax or US mail. I’ll go over them here for free for you at every freedom hour every Tuesday night. So Dee got a letter September 3, 2025. It’s actually for Sammy, if there’s a Sammy in Idaho from Carpenter Services Administrative Corporation. Okay. The trustees of the Western States Carpenter’s Pension Trust requires that the retirees provide an annual certification and verification that they remain retired as defined by Ba Ba Ba Ba ba A NAI agent Post retirement employment. Okay, blah blah blah. To comply, complete and return in closed form with a copy of your 2024 income tax return and W2 forms by October 2025, okay? You must provide a copy of two pages of your.

Okay, well, tell them to tell them I don’t have one. So write to them and say I don’t have one. Okay? Now if you don’t have another job, as they say, tell them I have another job. Just tell them that and you can make it a statement under oath. I declare under penalty perjury, you have no other job. Because what they’re trying to do is determine and make sure every day you are actually retired, you’re not working. If you are working, I imagine, I’m guessing from what I can see that they want to pay you less.

Perhaps that’s what it sounds like. That’s because they want to make sure you remain retired. Why? That’s my guess. Okay, so they don’t want you to engage any post retirement employment classified as prohibited by the applicable plans. Well, find out what those are. What are the prohibited, you know, jobs or employment is say, I don’t do those things. I don’t dig ditches. I don’t sell dolls. Okay? Whatever they don’t want you to do, that’s what you got to do on that. Okay, Dee? That’s what that is. And then February 2026, you got a letter. Let’s see, this one doesn’t have any Name on it.

Notice the federal income tax withholding to recipients of pension or long term disability benefits. You may notice a change in your monthly benefit if you add elective child taxes with withheld from your monthly benefit based on the federal income tax withholding tables provided by irs. Okay. If you do not wish to make change to your current elections, no action is required. However, if you wish to make a change to your tax withholding, you must provide a signed and completed Form W4P withholding certificate for pension or annuity payments. Okay. They tell you where to get on their website.

Okay, so W4P form that you have here, send a copy to me where it’s easy. You can fill it out at the bottom of it as a box that says no withholding. You can check that box, fill it out, sign you choose not to have withholding. Just do that on there. That’s your choice. And sign and Q, I request that no withholding be withheld from my payments. That’s it. Very simple. Easy, guys. You gotta slow down. Read English. This Iranian guy who. English is a second language. Cannot do reading for you guys read? No, I went to High School.

12 years of reading and writing. Take the time and read a little bit. You find the answers are right there. Okay? Okay. And the instructions telling you that right there, you know, you can choose not to have federal income tax withheld from your payments by checking the box in the no withholding section. Okay? Very simple, nothing complicated. All right? So that’s the question that DM asked about, okay? For her husband. Okay? Very simple. Not a problem. Just follow the instruction and form that they send you. All right? And we have some questions online. Let’s see, which one do we have here? Which one you guys want to see? FLS has experience defeating the nod.

FLS has experience defeating an nod. No sufficiency. Yes, that’s it. Okay, well, look, you want to see many of our victories, not all of them. There’s more I have not put on the website. Okay? All you gotta do is to go to our website, okay? Freedomlawschool.org okay, when you go to seven steps, okay, the gold bar you see on the center page, click on that. When you go down to step five, okay? Click on left side on five, step five. That takes it to our victories. Go. Scroll down to step five. Step five. You go in there, take courage from our victories and you continue.

Step five. You go in there and you see our victories. Okay? On the right side is our student victories. Click on that. Freedom Law School student victories and you see Various victories over the hours that we’ve had. Link is not working or slow. What’s going on with this? Gotta check on this thing. So link is a little slow, I guess. Yeah, that’s my victories on the right side. Let me have it. Yes. Oh, certain victories can go down as a habit. They’re all stuff. Okay. Yeah, you can scroll down. See many of our victories. So there you go.

Plenty more victory. 1, 2, 3, 4 and on. All right, any other questions from the audience? No, let’s see. No more questions online. Okay. And we have nobody with on the phone. I’ll give you the number one more time. If you have a question, the number to call is 424-552-1299 and press 1-42-4552-1299 and press 1. And I get your question right there. Other than that, brothers and sisters, it was no accident you called in. You listen to Freedom Law School because you were looking for freedom, looking to be free. Take the money that you work hard for.

You need it. Why let the criminals and thieves, the Epstein class have your money that you work hard for? These pedophile billionaires, their politicians, their media figures, corrupt ones. Why? Why do you want to give it to them when it’s your hard earned money? Why do you want to pay for this war with Iran that could lead up to World War 3? Why would you have our soldiers go out there and get killed? Right. Why pay for murder of innocent people in Iran and Israel? Or how about Ukraine? People being killed, Russians and Ukrainians. Why? It doesn’t have to be that way.

You do have a voice. Voting is not working. Biden was a communist and Trump is a war hungry tool of Israel, not America first. Israel first. For him, he’d rather focus on America. He’s focusing on a country of less than 10 million people. I’m Jewish born myself and I’m against all this stuff going on out there, you know, because America is first. I’m here as an American speaking to you as an American. The greatest country on earth is right here in America. I stayed here because what am I going to do? Go back there? I put my stake here, did my best I can to return America to its roots of freedom and greatness that made America great.

If we do that, America will have a great revival. But for that to happen, each of us, you need to take action. Educate yourself on our website freedomlawschool.org Empower yourself by going to our website freedomlawschool.org and take the seven steps to free yourself of IRS deception, slave robbery and slavery. Okay? Once you educate yourself about all this, then you’ll be free on your own, for free or as a restorer Freedom Plan member with a guarantee. The choice is yours. So I give you all my love, and I wish you all the best. Best happy, successful life for you and your family.

With love. I’ll be back with you guys next Tuesday night.
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