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Summary
➡ The speaker discusses the importance of bacteria in the body and soil, emphasizing their role in decomposition and rejuvenation. He criticizes modern medicine, calling it outdated, and advocates for a more holistic approach to health. He also shares his dental practice philosophy, focusing on understanding the patient’s overall health and habits before suggesting treatments. He is against root canal therapy, preferring alternative treatments like pulp regenerative therapy, and emphasizes the importance of patient education and collaboration in healthcare decisions.
➡ A homeopathic physician discusses his approach to healthcare, emphasizing the importance of informed consent and individual choice. He shares his experiences with chlorine dioxide, a highly charged substance that can help with dental issues by reversing the electrical charge in the body. He also mentions the use of natural remedies like Hawaiian salt water. The physician believes in practicing good common sense healthcare, rather than strictly adhering to traditional medical practices.
Transcript
And it’s, it was, it was really, it came up a lot. And also the, the, you know, dental problems, as far as I know, also are connected with our overall health. Like that shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody. But you know, medical doctors are not used to thinking about any connection between dental issues and health. It’s like that’s just your teeth. That’s correct. So we are thrilled, I guess, to you somehow reached out to us or I don’t know exactly now how that came about. And so you’re actually on board to join us. And so I just like to take this opportunity for you to introduce yourself to our listeners and members, you know, who are you? And maybe if you could share, you know, like, I don’t know how to put it, your philosophy of dentistry health.
What. And, and you know, obviously you’re not going to be drilling on people or you know, doing hands on dentistry through the computer, but I think a lot of people really say, you know, I was told I need to do a root canal or I was told this tooth will never recover and they want to know whether it’s true or not and whether there’s another way. So anyways, with that introduction, maybe just tell us a little bit about your, your who you are and how you got here and why you would be interested in working with the new biology clinic and then what it would be like for a patient who has a dental problem to talk to you.
Okay. Anyways, welcome to. Thank you, Tom. Thank you so much. I appreciate the association and the camaraderie. Yes, I grew up in the Midwest, in Chicago and went to Michigan and came out to Hawaii in 70 and never left. So this is my territory and I love the islands. I think in previous lives I maybe lived in this area. So anyway, that’s my understanding of how I got here. For many years, about 12 years, I practiced the traditional, what I call drill, fill and build dentistry and did root canals and they weren’t doing implants back in the 70s or 80s.
And so I avoided that tobacco. But about 1984 I came into other information. A relative to a very famous physician, Reinhard Vol, called electroacupenture. According to Vol, I studied with him and a number of other associates, Andreas Marx, and other practitioners, physicians and dentists about this interconnectivity to the dental organs. Odansons, we call them nodantans, just like an osteon, but a bone, bone packet or bone area that includes the connective tissue and the bone. And so my, my mind was expanded at that time. I didn’t believe in it particularly, but it seemed to be so. And I could understand the.
This circuit board thinking that’s like everything was organized in a very divinely or precise arrangement such that you could do tens or do different types of physical work and get answers. The body was responsive. In other words, if you measured the body, it would talk to you. Not in my language, not in the words, but. So that led me off into the realm of biological dentistry. You know, Ron, just to say I have probably a bad habit of interrupting people, but sometimes when I hear something, I. If, you know, it reminds me what you said of people used.
Would talk about how native people could speak to the trees and they would get answers. And then the Europeans would come and say, well, I spoke to the trees and I didn’t get any answers, so it must not be true. And I remember thinking to myself, what do you think the tree speaks English. And besides, all you can’t do is come and cut down the trees. I wouldn’t talk to you either. Right, exactly. That’s really good, Tom, because I think that’s the language of science is subtlety. It’s not the English language or the European languages, like you just said.
It’s like a sensing of the. The vibes coming back from. Plants have consciousness. They’re a certain kind and they will talk to you and they will grow with great appreciation and wonderful music and good water and good. We. We have other techniques. But anyway, going back to my. Who I was or who I am, I followed this word called biological dentistry. And I thought that was a very apt word. I was a major in biology and chemistry in college and then went to Michigan Dental School and was, you know, programmable just like any other physician or dentists were really obedient.
And you don’t go to dental school without following the guidelines. They’ll kick you out quickly. And I saw that happen and it scared me. So I didn’t want to be on the other side of the fence. And I continued to do my work until about 12 years, 8 12. About 12 years out of dental school when I met Voel and I met these other people. And I was inspired to look beyond my traditional training and what the orthodox dentistry. And that led me, like I say, into the word biological dentistry. I use that phraseology to identify looking through the window of biology and physiology to see if things are going to work for you.
And then that led me into a real deep inquiry on the root canal therapy that we were doing, because that was just. It was natural. You just automatically did that as a dentist. Yeah, they had specialists, but usually all the dentists would do that. And I found out it was not a very positive thing in terms of results because the people always had problems later on. And so I. Problems with the tooth or just overall problems? Well, with the tooth itself, locally, but sometimes systemically. But I was not listening. My ability to listen to what the body is saying has been truncated, so to speak, because of the training I had.
It was all myopic and I just looked like this. Yeah, only one thing. Drill Phil and Bill, that kind of phraseology, or the meme. And I did. I abhorred that thought. And so I launched into some areas my own clinical research on endodontics or root canal therapy. And what I would do is take the dead tooth out of the jawbone and scrape the jaw ligament out and send it to the pathology lab here at Queen’s Hospital. And the pathologist would always send me back a report saying marked acute chronic inflammation, dead tissue, dead bone or necrotic bone, dead.
You know, like that. These are fancy words. And sometimes cysts and other bone issues. And so I don’t want to get too deep into the hole. But basically that was proving back to me, I wanted to prove it to myself that what Vol had said about the ill begotten root canal therapy was true. Yeah, he, as a physician, would not treat a patient until they had all the dental amalgams and disturbances cleared from the jawbone, the teeth and the root canals and like that. And I wanted to prove it to myself. And so I did. And I went.
It’s been about 38 years in my clinical research and I’ve documented all of the teeth, about 400 or so teeth, more than that actually, that have been taken out and pathologically reviewed. And 72% come out with always marked acute chronic inflammation. And that’s right at the tip of the root. So the root is sitting in the bone, which is supposed to be sterile, the underlying tissue, subterranean tissue, is meant to be sterile. That’s what infection identifies as an unsterile condition, from my point of view. And so I started to collate this material. And then 2019, I wrote a book called Death by Root Canal.
Now, that’s a very provocative title. Yeah, but it says, death by root canal, slow blood poisoning. So the interconnectivity from those dental organs we call odontons that are abscessed or problematic, cracked, will speak to you in other parts of the body. And one of the other findings in this clinical research that I was able to complete, and as a basis of the book that I wrote with my wife and my good colleague who’s a homeopathic physician, Paul Kenyon, it emphasized the fact that there were bacteria there in the jawbone that were not even seen normally in histopathological sectioning, the stuff we do, the gunk.
And the actinomyces was there. And I learned a lot about actinomyces as being a. First they identified as a fungal infection, but later on identified as a bacterial fungal infection. And the actinomyces can also cause actinomycosis of the lungs, the bowel and the lower extremities, and the upper throat region. So you were essentially kind of seeing pleomorphism in action. Yes, yes. Things do to alter themselves. They change in and out of different. You say pleomorphism or they. Their morphology will shift. But the. The striking fact is I came across this. I’m not a soil scientist or a farmer, but actinomyces function in the soil sciences is to decompose cellulose.
So it’s deep within the earth, taking these plants that otherwise would not decompose and working on them. And I believe that all bacteria, more or less, are positive for the body, if that. If it’s properly managed, you know, you’ve got to. You can’t let them go rampant. But there’s a purpose. God’s made it a purpose for all microorganisms to purify and cleanse and uplift the soul and spirit to be greater than it could ever possibly. Yeah, they’re like. They’re like the agents of decomposition and rejuvenation. They recycle dead tissue. Yes, exactly. You’ve got it. And when I heard you lecturing about the exosomes and stuff like that, I mean, you’re the first person I came across that mimicked.
Not mimicked, but articulated what I thought was the divine teachings and I know were the Divine teachings from another system that I practiced for 38 years too. And that I was like, wow, this chap knows what he’s talking about. And then I started watching your other stuff like that. And then we have a mutual friend, he’s an attorney friend, but I knew Jack very well, and he was just high on you. And I was also high on you. And then you come along and make this new biology clinic, which to me is a renaissance of truth.
It’s like we’re getting back to the physiology and biology and not the medicine quote unquote. You know, medicine is a. It served its purpose, but it does no longer. It’s antiquated, it’s obsolete. And that’s what you see. People don’t trust it. And so when I had the invite or the relationship with you to join up and be part of the crew, I said, I’ll take that. I’m a little bit older than most of these people, but I still think I have another 10, 15, maybe 20 years to contribute to humanity in my, my, my little way.
So walk us through. Like, person comes in with pain in their tooth. Just, just something as straightforward as that. What happens next? What do you. Where, where, where would you go with that? Well, that’s a really interesting question and one that’s gives me an open avenue for a lot of answers. But normally I attend first off to the difficulty the person’s having. If it’s a tooth that’s throbbing, aching, and it’s been that way just a couple of days, I would take them through the diagnostic tests to determine the health of that organ. That dental tooth, we call it not a tooth, is called an odonton.
So I like to use that word. So once identified as the problem child, then there are a number of alternatives. The usual one is a root canal therapy or extraction. Since I don’t abide by root canal therapy, I’ve seen the ill results of it over the years that I practiced. So you would. You don’t see any reason ever to do a root canal? Well, I see reasons why they do root canals, but to do one, I’d say don’t do that. No, I don’t see any saving grace of a root canal therapy because you’re leaving a dead substance within that sterile tissue space called the bone and the ligaments of the deep structures, and that becomes a nidus, or a focal point of systemic infection, blood poisoning.
And it will show up in different areas. And so if a patient had, let’s say, a lower molar tooth, lower left tooth, number 19, which is the first molar, that’s a lung. Large intestine meridian, acupuncturally. So I would then ask the person, are you having any issues with your body? Have you gone to a physician? Have you seen a homeopathic physician? Do you have any digestive issues? And then I would go along that line of questioning. So you would essentially hear their story, like, what happened to you and how are you otherwise? And how do you feel? And, you know, did you just get hit by a car or do you suck on.
Exactly. Life is sad all day long. Or, you know, do you only eat Coca Cola or something like that? Right, exactly, exactly. And then that leads to deep in the relationship because then the person really realizes that this guy is not only interested in solving this problem, but he’s interested in me too, which I am. I mean, this person is sent to me, I feel is a divine arrangement by God so that I see them in my practice to be of service to them. That’s my way of thinking. Right. Other people would say, no, that’s specious.
And I’m not going to go down that one. But as we deepen the relationship, I find that the collaboration with the individual is much greater. They’re much more open to alternative thought processes. Not that I’m a paragon on thought processes. You know, I flunked three times in grammar school, so. But fortunately, God had other plans for me. So anyway, going back to that, I would then ask them, and then I have other physicians in town, homeopathic physicians, usually that I could take and refer them to, or if it’s beyond my expertise in terms of the surgery, I’d refer them to a good oral surgeon.
But I’m a good oral surgeon myself, as a practicing general dentist, so I do most of the surgery myself because I want to clean out all the underlying gunk, so to speak, of the septic tank, because the tooth, as it decays and rots, and root canals too, they become septic tanks. Yeah. Flashing red light in the jaw. So in other words, you could. You would hear their story, get a sense of their overall health and their habits and their thoughts and just how they see life. And then you would say, well, in this case, based on maybe looking at X rays and whatever other diagnostic tests they have, you could say, we could try homeopathic remedies, changing your diet or some other type of therapy for.
For a week, a month, a day, and see what happens. You could do that. Yeah, that would be an alternative. So sometimes. Go ahead. Yeah, but it sounds like you have, you’ll, you’ll have a sense of like whether that’s possible even based on what you see and what you hear. Yeah, it really is dependent on. Most people have trauma because they grind their teeth. Bruxing. It’s called extra oral habits. They call them too opening pop bottles with their teeth. You know the young guys do that when they were drinking beer. They would open the pot, the beer bottle with their teeth.
Yeah. And they just decimates the teeth anyway. We’re not too kind, I find as a civilization we’re not too kind to our teeth in terms of the chewability and the things that we put in and work with. And so I would find out more about their habits like that and then give them some coaching or some ideas in a conversation. And I usually spend a couple of hours on the first appointment to get to know them to do the right diagnostics. If I need. I only take X rays if I think I need them. And if they have previous ones, I use those as a background because I am not user friendly to radiation.
Yeah. So I want to minimize that aspect and people appreciate that and I do too because it’s. Anyway, so then if they needed like for example, some like further testing, we’d let them go a week or a month and then have them come back and look at that dental organ if there’s a chance for recovery. Or another case scenario is the fact that a person has a dental decay that’s very close to the pulp chamber but they don’t have symptoms of a dead tooth. There is a system that I use called pulp regenerative therapy where you remove the dental decay back down to the normal tissue and then you use a number of layerings of, well, calcium hydroxide paste.
It’s called pulp dent, pulp cap or pulpal regeneration. And it stimulates and it’s worked well in certain cases where the pulp two or three years later the person’s not having any problem and the tooth presents pretty well as recovered. Yeah. So that’s a slow process that I’d like to encourage. But then there’s a certain tipping point where if the person said no, it woke me at 3 o’ clock in the morning and it was pulsating like my heart. Then you know that that’s more than likely irreversible. Pulpitis. That would lead to root canal therapy or extraction.
Again, I’m not user friendly to root canal therapy. So I guide and I tell people straight up. I’m very, very biased to do my research. According to that it’s not wise to do this systemically for your good health. And they usually, some will concur with what my thinking is. But there are some physicians, homeopathic physicians, that come to me and they say, no, no, I know I have the abscesses, but I’m going to treat it homeopathically. And I said, well, have at it. Go ahead and do that. And. And that might work for you. I don’t think so.
In the ultimate scheme of things, those pus sacs are usually septic and disseminating that, those microorganisms, those viruses, those other prions and. Yeah, I don’t think viruses. I. Yeah, I don’t. I don’t either. But I think viruses are nothing more than proteins that are messed up. That’s all. Yeah. There’s no organism or thing called the virus. Yeah, I remember that. And biology or histology. I forget when it was in Michigan, when we studied that. And it’s always stuck in my mind. These are nothing more than protein strands. They can’t replicate, they can’t duplicate, and they just mess up the body.
But then the vaccinations, they had to sell that too. So I’ve awakened to the fact that many of the things are centered around how to prosper and flourish by lifting a few dollars from the patient. It sounds like then the main goal here would be to give the person the benefit of your experience as to what is possible here. Yes. Given the situation. And here’s your options. It’s like informed consent. You know, here’s the possibilities and, you know, we can follow along and see what. What might happen here. Exactly. It’s kind of like organic. It’s evolving.
Yeah. And there comes a point where something has to be done. I tell the person, look, it doesn’t look like it’s moving in the direction that we thought it would. So this is what I think would be best for you. But I leave it always to the individual to make that choice. I think that’s informed consent. That’s full disclosure. And it’s not legal. I’m not thinking about legalities. I’m not thinking about that. No. It’s just that it’s the moral thing to do. Yeah. Yeah. The coolest thing you can do is tell people the truth as best you want.
Best, you know. Best, you know. Yeah, yeah. And I thought when I listened to you first and I listened to the dialogue you had yesterday, you’re truth seekers. And I like to associate with truth seekers, not, you know, remote or re rote learning Skills and high ats, high college entrance scores. That’s. That was not my forte. I got it. I did it organically. Experience, you know, experience is the best teacher, I believe. So go ahead. Do you had any experience around working with chlorine dioxide? I’ve taken it. I don’t know a whole lot about it because my memory didn’t pick up.
I mean, about six months ago, I still have that. That was from a chiropractor friend actually, of my wife. My wife is a doctor of acupuncture and she. Little Chinese gal, wonderful, brilliant therapist. And anyway, she was doing that and no, I to say, no, I don’t. But I’m familiar with it enough to maybe be dangerous. It’s interestingly, you know, I think I told you my father and grandfather both went to University of Michigan Dental School. Right. That’s right. And I’ve never really liked dental stuff and. But most of my health problems have been dental. I mean, not horrible, but.
And there’s been times when I have like a painful tooth. And I would say chlorine dioxide is the only thing that I’ve ever used that has pretty almost immediately stopped the pain and what seemed like going to a progression of getting worse. Right. So I don’t know what was doing there, but, boy, it was pretty dramatic. I think it’s. The chlorine dioxide, from my understanding, is an antiseptic, so to speak. And as I. Well, that’s what they say. But what. But what it really seems to be is that, you know, basically, like Vol said, and I think you’re coming to.
It’s all about the electrical charge of the body and, you know, the flow of. And chlorine dioxide is a highly charged substance. So it’s. It’s like what, you know, in the old biology would be called an electron donor. Right. And I think that’s really how it works. Not killing bugs. Because when you’re. If you’re. You know, what you’re describing is the tooth becomes like a dead battery. Correct. And then it starts breaking down and then the bacteria and fungus come to digest it and then you’ve got troubles. Yeah. So if you charge up the battery, the whole thing reverses itself.
That’s right. That’s correct. You’re right on. It’s good insight. I hadn’t thought about that. But that might be something that’s just reversing the electrical charge. And of course, we know voltage is pressure. Yeah. And there is no such thing as pain per se. That’s a word of art. Expressing intense Pressure. Yeah. So dental pain is usually due. Not usually, always due to some kind of disturbance of the pressure balance. When you have acidity, you have a high degree of pressure, I believe, and alkalinity releases that, like the chlorine dioxide can release that pressure, and then the symptoms disappear and everything seems to be all right.
When that can be true, it could be all right. But then it’s good to monitor it. Go ahead. I’m sorry. Yeah. No, but it’d be fascinating to have people with dental issues and, you know, where everybody at the clinic is pretty familiar and kind of. We use that a lot with different. What other people would call infections. But it would. It’ll be interesting to see with dental issues what happens with it. With the chlorine dioxide. Yeah. Yeah. I had a patient call me about three or four days ago. She did something similar that you did, and it did the same thing for her issue.
Yeah. And I, you know, I believe that those. I use Hawaiian salt water. Yeah, right. In other words, I’ve seen miracles occur. The ancient Hawaiians used to go down to Waikiki beach and bathe in the ocean. It wasn’t polluted at that time. And that would pull out the poisons through the skin. Yeah. So it’s kind of like. Yeah, chlorine dioxide is sort of like it’s a saltwater treatment. Right, right. And so rather than. I think chlorine dioxide is now not. Isn’t it censored by a lot of YouTube and stuff like that? Yeah. Maybe it’s on the black side of the fence, I guess.
Yeah. At least I’ve heard it as. And people can get their licenses pulled or stuff like that. I don’t care about that. You don’t need a license to practice good common sense healthcare. And that’s what I consider myself as. Not a licensed professional, but a tradesman. I’m a good plumber, a good electrician, a good builder, and that’s what I like to focus on. And I think that’s a better definition of a biological dental surgeon, or even set aside the word surgeon. A biological healthcare professional. Got it. Yeah. So great. All right. I think this gives people a good idea, and we’re really glad to have you, Ron.
I think it’ll be fun for all of us to have you part of the team. And I think the members will get a lot out of your wisdom and experience and just giving them somebody to talk to about, do I really have to do this? And where, you know, what are my options here? And even to hear that. Yeah. You do have to do that in this situation, put. Because there’s so many people who will go into it conflicted because they don’t really trust their dentist, you know, and to have somebody on our side say, you know what? In this case.
Yeah, that’s what needs to happen. It’s worth its weight in gold. Yeah. Very nice. Well, it’s really good being with you, Tom. I look forward to meeting you in person someday. Yes, Someday. Yeah. All right. It’s a long way from here to there. Yeah. Right. All right, Ron. Take care and welcome and thanks, everybody, for joining us. Yeah. God bless, Tom. Thank you and everybody. Bye bye. Bye bye. Aloha. Eh? Yokatane.
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