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Summary
➡ The speaker discusses the political and financial implications of U.S. involvement in international affairs, particularly in relation to illegal immigration, wars, and peace deals. They express concern over the U.S.’s continued involvement in wars, despite promises to withdraw, and the financial benefits that defense industries gain from these conflicts. They also discuss the issue of nuclear proliferation, highlighting the differing approaches of Iran and Israel. Lastly, they touch on the impact of drug overdoses in the U.S., comparing it to the number of war casualties.
➡ The text discusses the complex history of US-Iran relations, highlighting the US’s involvement in regime changes and its double standards in dealing with terrorism. It suggests that the US has often provoked Iran’s attacks and has been involved in selling weapons to Iran through Israel. The text also discusses the recent attack on Iran, suggesting it was a failed attempt by Israel and the US to destabilize Iran’s regime. It concludes by suggesting that the attack was merely a theatrical display, as Iran had already removed its enriched uranium, and that it exposed Israel’s vulnerability and the US’s weakness.
➡ The discussion revolves around the geopolitical influence of Iran, Russia, and China, and their move away from the US Dollar, which could pose an economic threat to the United States. The conversation also touches on the alleged spying on Donald Trump and his team by the CIA and British intelligence during the 2015 presidential campaign. The speaker claims to have warned Devin Nunes, head of the House Intelligence Committee, about this issue. The discussion ends with the speaker expressing disappointment over not being contacted for further information on the matter.
➡ The speaker discusses various topics, including the withholding of JFK and Jeffrey Epstein files, the potential implication of Israel in JFK’s assassination, and the possibility of a false flag event blamed on Iran. They also discuss the U.S.’s military involvement in the Middle East, mentioning staged events, the bombing of Syria, and the conflict with the Houthis. The speaker suggests that these actions have shown the limitations of the U.S. military and have potentially damaged the U.S.’s strategic position. They also express concern about a potential large-scale terrorist attack on U.S. soil.
➡ The speaker discusses the importance of free speech, even when it involves views we may not agree with. They mention a past Supreme Court case where neo-Nazis were allowed to march, emphasizing that the strength of our country lies in our ability to tolerate differing opinions. The speaker also criticizes the selective nature of who is allowed to protest, asserting that everyone should have the right to express their views, no matter how objectionable they may be. The speaker ends by promoting their website, Sonar21.com, and expressing a desire to continue the conversation in a future discussion.
Transcript
Wow. Okay, so when you say that the CIA was just unmanageable, just unbelievably, are you talking about just disorganized or just totally, totally corrupt or both? So I was the, I was the regional analyst for Central America. Wow. And, and I had been the Honduran analyst prior to that when Honduras was one of the top five foreign policy priorities, believe it or not, back in 1986. 87, 88. And so this was 1989. I got a new branch chief. She came out of Africa. Her background was in Africa. She didn’t know one thing about Central America. I’d lived in Honduras.
I spoke, I speak Spanish, you know, almost a native speaker. And we were asked every morning. This was back, you know, you will find this funny. I think this is back in the day where we show up in the morning and you had to read through a stack of paper about this high because the messages weren’t on email. We were getting electronic messages. It was all paper. So I was asked to go through this, you know, stack of 200 pages and pull out messages that I thought that the front office should see that I felt were important.
They were the most salient. Well, unbeknownst to me, Chief, she was doing the same thing. The problem was she had no expertise on, anywhere in, in Central America, much less Honduras and the, and the conflict with, with the contras and, and the Sandinistas. And so she was, she, she was pulling out stuff that was just crap. Okay, well, I didn’t know this was going on, so I came up, it was time for promotion. I go in to sit down. I was, I was in the top 10% of analysts in terms of writing for current production. I was writing for the Presidential Daily Brief probably twice a week.
I was good briefer. I had written what they call a hardcover. I saw, I checked all the boxes for promotion. And I walked in, they said, well, we’re not going to promote you because we got questions about the integrity of Your analysis. And I went, what? I get a little bit of Irish in me. I was furious and came to find out that the. This boss I had named Mary, she was sending up a different set of messages than what I was sending. And instead of a manager, the first day when they get two different sets of paper calling us both in saying, larry, why are you giving me this? And as opposed to what Mary’s giving me.
And I could have explained to know what she’s doing, but I would have said cleaned it up and made it diplomatic. Instead, they let this go on for like a month. Geez. Yeah, that’s. So at that point, I said, I’m getting out of here. I just, I was fed. So is it not as organized as people think it is? Are you familiar with the cartoon character Dilbert? No, but I can imagine. Yeah, it’s. Is that the one that’s. It’s a clown Brothers. Oh, no, it’s Dilbert is this pudgy, short, unattractive bureaucrat. And so. Yeah, no, listen, this.
The CIA. I. I could, I could keep. We could spend the entire hour. I can give you one in story of incompetence after another. Wow. You know, so. And it’s politicized, but it just, you know, it’s a bureaucracy, big bureaucracy. And as such, it tends to serve the bureaucracy as opposed to, you know, pursuit of. Pursuit of truth. All right, folks, before we go any further, this is going to be one hell of a podcast. I got to say, it’s going to be big. What if I told you that nearly half of thyroid patients in a clinical study stopped needing thyroid medications just after 10 red light sessions? That’s right.
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Get 10% off, folks. Get started on that. All right, Larry. Wow. So let’s talk about for a second before we get into what’s happening today. You know, obviously the big, beautiful bills on the verge of being passed. A lot of politicians don’t want it to the deep state’s fighting Trump. I mean, it’s a war. The behind the scenes. I feel like we are in that season or that window of terrorist attacks on our soil. I think this summer could be a very hot summer. Lots of fireworks, if you know what I mean. And I want to get your intel on that.
But first, before we get into that, I want to talk about a friend of yours, an actual friend of yours who I saw on YouTube many, many times talking about the war in Ukraine, giving his opinions on it. US finally confirms American dating coach. I guess he was a dating coach turned Kremlin shill, died in Ukraine. So he started off talking about dating on YouTube. Correct. And then he went to the truth about Ukraine war. Yeah, well, I was just going to say that he, you know, he started off giving, getting given, giving advice to, you know, young guys, guys in their late, late teens, early 20s about, you know, you know, how to be men, how to deal with women, you know, and he was, you know, he, he’d been married at least once, I think, and he was now in Ukraine.
He’d married again and had a couple of small kids. He, he was a very engaging guy, smart, you know, spokes two or three different languages and a good, good analyst. And so we, I forget how we first came in touch with each other, but he reached out to me because I had been writing and doing some commentary on the war in Ukraine early on and reached out and then we did several, several podcasts together, just like you and I are doing. Yeah, I remember he was, he was very voice opinionated on what was happening in Ukraine.
And in many times I’d see him on, on video, almost like in fear of his life. He was very worried, correct? Yeah, he was, he was always cautious to not show what was happening outside the apartment. You know, he wasn’t giving locations away, but he was very critical of what the Ukrainian government was doing. And finally they came and arrested him, put him in jail. While he was in jail, he was being extorted by criminal gangs and ultimately they, through the harsh treatment, they killed him. And he was in constant contact with you, correct? We were.
Well, when he was out of jail, we were in regular contact. Once he went in, it was just sporadic after that. And I know that he did try. He was jailed, they let him out. He got on his motorcycle. He was trying to figure out how to flee the country. And, and as he was doing that, he called me. It was, you know, it was probably like 8, 9am, 10am in the morning where he Was. Well, that’s, you know, that’s seven hours earlier here. So that was like three, two or three in the morning here. And I was in bed, my phone was turned off and I didn’t get the call.
And that’s. That. That’s the last contact I had with me. Then was disappeared into the prison system and was killed. Jeez. It’s such a sad story. And I remember following him when all of this was going down and happening. I remember watching his videos when he had some of the greatest intel out there. He was an, he’s an American citizen and was abandoned by the Biden administration, the State Department. So, you know, but he couldn’t go to the US Embassy, you know, and try to seek shelter there. Yeah, he was. The embassy would have turned him over to Ukrainian authorities.
Wow. Wow. And that’s what it was like under that administration for four years. Yeah. Fast forward to today. I wanted to touch on that briefly. But where we’re at today with Trump, obviously, I want to get your opinion on it. Completely different administration, things have changed. America looks perceivably like it’s going the right way. Do you have opinion on that? Well, let’s. Domestically, I agree. I think we’re moving in the right direction. I mean, particularly getting control of the illegal immigration that has flooded the country. But, you know, as we’re discovering, you saw that Trump came under pressure from restaurant owners and hotels because it didn’t matter whether you’re Republican or Democrat.
It is just there are Republicans who are making as much money off of illegals as there are Democrats. Oh, I, I know. They turn that around, though. They stop that. It’s just, just this. Right. If I saw the news story wrong, that Trump was getting pressure to lighten up. Well, I know, I know. I, I heard about the hotels and what a farms that he was allowing them. Yeah. But I heard they, you know, I brought that out on my podcast and I, I put it, I shined a light on it. So did some other podcasters, but I heard they turned it around.
I’m not fully sure. I know we put a light on that. Yeah. It was. In fact, even here in Florida, believe it or not, there was, there was pressure to not fully go comply with getting rid of the illegals because so many of them are employed by farmers to pick crops. Right. You know, so my point is that we, we get this political rhetoric and then we get the actual. Where the money’s involved. And I always believe in, follow the money. In fact, what I’ve, you know, part of my consulting business over the last 24 years has been focused on doing international financial investigations, tracking money laundering, tracking counter product counterfeiting.
So domestic, we’re okay. The concern I have is on the international front, Trump made a. I took him at his word that he was going to stop getting us in needless wars, and he seems to be not following through on that. The war in Ukraine would be over now. If the United States simply pulled out, pulled our personnel out, stop the flow of money and arms and stop the flow of intelligence, that war would be over. Instead, we’re continuing to send all the, the money, the weapons that were approved during Biden. They’re still in the pipeline, still going forward.
We’re still sharing intelligence. So we’ve got that. Who would know better than a CIA intel analyst? Right. Well, I just, you know, we’ve. This entire war was provoked by us. And you can see over my shoulder there’s a book by Scott Horton. He’s written an extensive document of how when the Soviet union collapsed in 1991, the Russians were promised by then Secretary Chief of Staff to the White House, James Baker, Secretary, Secretary of State, that NATO would not expand one inch east. Well, we broke that promise. In fact, Russia made several attempts to join NATO. The last one was like in 2000, 2001, Putin made a direct appeal to George W.
Bush. Turned down. Why? Well, NATO is a, it’s a money maker for our defense industry. And it was the first one to expand NATO to the east was Bill Clinton. And just two weeks after we expanded NATO, we brought in Poland, Romania and Slovakia, I believe were the three. At that time. NATO started a war in Serbia just two weeks after that. Serbia at the time was considered a friend and ally of Russia. So, you know, we were, we embarked upon a military buildup of Ukraine, really, starting in 1995. Ukraine, in my view, has been a de facto member of NATO.
They’ve got everything they’ve done. We’ve carried out more military exercises with Ukraine on Ukrainian soil than we have with 22 other members of NATO. Okay. There’s now 28. Go ahead. Why do you think they would deny Russia’s attempt to join the NATO? Because they want to perpetuate wars. Yes. Yeah, there’s, that’s, that’s how we make money. Right. This, you, you look at it this way. The United States has never really suffered significant losses in war. You know, we always get all misty eyed over World War II in the European theater. In World War II, Europe and North Africa, total number of killed in action were 189,000 in the Pacific total killed in action.
And this is Marines, army, sailors, airmen, 110,000. There were additional 113, 15,000 that died in accidents and from sickness, but I’m talking combat deaths. It was only 289,000 total, or 299,000 comes in right, almost at 3, 300. Well, Russia, in the battle of Stalingrad, that one battle alone lost 900,000 soldiers in one battle. Now we get up, we lose about 50,000 in the war in Korea. Hey, that’s a year of car accidents in the United States. Okay? And Vietnam, 12 years, 58,000. And I don’t disrespecting the families out there who lost loved ones in that war, but it didn’t cost us a thing.
We made money off of it. These defense industries, they got wealthier and wealthier and wealthier. And, hey, two wars in Iraq, you know, we lost, you know, I think total deaths between Iraq and Afghanistan over, you know, 20 years in Afghanistan, less than 5,000. Again, I’m not insulting or disrespecting the memory of those who died, but for God’s sake, it’s big business. It’s big business. Hey, but what we allow a hundred thousand a year to die with fentanyl, right? No, I’ve heard it’s even more than that. I have a friend that owns a rehabilitation clinic, and he was giving me the numbers I couldn’t believe.
He said it’s over 150,000. Yeah, I. I lost a nephew. Died my. Died my house from a fentanyl overdose. And a lot of these people don’t even know what they’re getting. They think it’s a Xanax or an Adderall pill or whatever, and it’s laced and they die. Yeah, even lace weed now. I mean, it’s just. Yeah, I mean, you get. Nothing is safe. But that. That’s. That’s a completely different discussion. We’ll talk a little. A little bit of that later if you want to. But what about these peace deals that Trump’s making? Obviously, you know, he brought peace to Congo, the Congo in Africa and with Iran, Israel, obviously, after we struck the nuclear facilities that I’ve heard he was neutralizing threats that the deep state would use against our country.
As, you know, they use countries as proxies. What’s your thoughts on that? What’s your thoughts on the peace deals that Trump’s putting forth right now? I mean, if you really wanted war, wouldn’t he have perpetuated it with Iran and Israel? And throwed through fuel on the fire instead of just striking it and saying that’s it, 12 day war is over. Well, that’s exactly what he did. So right now, between Iran and Israel, only one country has signed the non proliferation treaty. That’s right, that’s Iran. Right. Yeah. Because Israel still wants this. Oh yeah. Israel will not sign the non proliferation treaty.
What is a. There’s only proliferation to not build nuclear weapons. Right. So what’s. So obviously Iran can’t do it, but Israel can. You’re right. Yeah. No, but also follow me through with the International Atomic Energy Agency under the NPT does the inspection of nuclear sites to make sure that a country is complying and not building a nuclear weapon. Well, Iran allowed those inspections, had been allowing them since 2003. And Israel will not allow those. Correct. So here the United States was set to meet on Sunday, June 15, Oman with Steve Witkoff and the Iranians to talk about coming up with a peace agreement.
An agreement that ensured that the United States would be completely sure that Iran was not trying to build a nuke. And the reason they weren’t building a nuke is it’s a religious thing. It is against the Shia interpretation of Islam. So they’ve, they’ve, it was rejected as a fatwa. Something that, not an unholy act. Iran was more than willing to make that deal. They said, hey, you can come in, you can inspect our sites, you can put inspectors there. So that meeting is supposed to take place on the 15th. Right. Donald Trump gives Bibi Netanyahu the green light to attack Iran.
This was an unprovoked attack. Iran had not attacked Israel. This was, and this wasn’t just, you know, the nuclear thing. So they’re not trying to build a nuclear bomb. Why do they have nuclear facilities enriching uranium? Because they have nuclear power plants. And, and, and the isotopes, when you enrich it 20%, you’re using that in medical isotopes for treating cancer. Wow. Okay, Okay. I mean there’s so much. Even a bigger conspiracy right there, right? Yeah. I mean, it’s just Iran has, you know, Iran’s never invaded or bombed a neighboring country. You know, the only time in the last 46 years that Iran was invaded, that was invaded by Iraq.
Who encouraged Iraq to invade Iran. I would bet Bush that that was us. Yeah. Did I get it? Did I guess it. Yeah. George. I mean, it would make sense to me. George. George H.W. bush. Wow. Well, actually, no, take it back. It was Jimmy Carter and then Ronald Reagan. All right. But they’re all part of the same team, so. And then we got pictures of Don Rumsfeld, remember him? Secretary of Defense with Saddam Hussein because the United States provided Iraq with chemical weapons that were used in Iran. So this US backed war in Iran cost the lives of 500,000 people.
How do you think we’d feel if Iran gave Mexico chemical weapons and Mexico attacked us and killed 500,000Americans? Think we’d have warm fuzzy feelings? Absolutely not. Absolutely a lot. So that’s why I say, you know, America’s got to get over its hypocrisy on this because they always like to pretend that we’re minding our own business, doing nothing. And Iran just sucker punched us out of the, out of the blue. No, that’s. Well, I’ve always said if something happens now on American soil, it’s going to be blamed on Iran. It’s not going to be. Absolutely. At least at that point we agree on that.
100. Whatever happens here, do you feel as of right now we are in a window of terrorism in American soil? I mean with everything happening within the deep state with Trump, all the disagreements, do you feel like at any time now it’s ripe for the taking? Sure. It’s a way to sucker Americans into giving up their civil liberties because we saw, we saw that happen with 911 patriotism. And again, understand the ones that carry the, the ones that carried out 911 were funded by the Saudis. I mean they were getting money out of. Right. And that’s who Trump’s very.
And you struck these big deals with just recently. Right. Well, and you know, Americans, we like to have, we really, we play a double game because we claim, oh, you know, Iran is, Iran is sponsoring, it’s helping fund Hamas and Hezbollah. Well, I could, I can take you through the statistics on Hamas that since from 1999, August of 2000, excuse me, up to the present day, the total number of terrorist attacks by the Palestinians in Israel was a little over 600. But of those, only 105 are attributed to Hamas. And that’s not my statistics. That’s from the Israeli Foreign Ministry.
It’s on their website. But now, notice the United States, we just helped install a new leader in Syria, a guy named Al Jalani. He was Muhammad Al Jelani. Now he’s changed his name back to Al Shara. Well, he was a member of isis. He attacked American soldiers and yet we backed him and put him in power. So we’ve had, we’ve had a long, we’ve had a long history in The United States of playing this double game of funding terrorists so that they’d carry out attacks and help, you know, help us accomplish some of our foreign policy and keep that boogeyman out there.
Right. The perpetual terrorism. Yeah. As long as it goes hand in hand with the Patriot act and the funding of wars. And as long as you have that boogeyman terrorist out there, you continually can have wars. Yeah. And. And you take away Americans civil liberties, you take away your privacy. And. And they use the. You know, the fear factor is used. The. The reality of the. You like the US Relationship with Iran. Iran’s attacks have always, always been provoked by US. Example, the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, 1983, as well as the bombing of the US embassy.
Well, prior to that, Ronald Reagan had given permission for the US Battleship the New Jersey, I believe it was, that was launching big shells into the Baka Valley, killing Shia women and children. That’s why. So, you know, that’s why our Marines were killed and why our embassy got blown up. It was in retaliation for what we were doing. But see, we like to forget. We forget the fact that there was a democratically elected President in 1953 in Iran named Mosaddegh. We got rid of him. Kermit Roosevelt was the CIA chief of station, led that operation to get rid of Mossadegh.
And we installed the Shah. So we’ve been very active at these regime change. Let me just point out one other interesting oddity. In 1981, in February, Mossad went to the Reagan White House company by the CIA and asked permission to sell U.S. weapons to Iran. Israel, because is. Iran tried to buy, you know, those. We just blew up some Phantom F4 jets. Those jets were 60 years old, dude. I mean, they’re old enough to. Old enough to be your father. Okay. And. And so when. When the Ayatollah took over in 1979 and they had held the US embassy personnel hostage for a year, Iran tried to buy tires for those F4 jets.
Yes. For them. Yeah, yeah. They needed. They needed new tires. And so the US Said, oh, hell no, we’re not doing that. We’re mad at you. And then the Israelis came and said, can we do it? And we said, okay. And so from 1981 on, the US was allowing weapons to be. Israel was selling weapons to Iran because Israel hated Iraq. At that time, Iraq was the big enemy, not Iran. And, you know, that all came to a screeching halt in October 1986. I just started my work as an analyst on the Central America project and lo and behold, Eugene Hoffenfuss gets shot down.
They shoot down a CIA plane carrying weapons to the, to the Contras and that exposed the whole Iran Contra affair with Ali north selling all over North. I remember that as a kid surfaced air missiles to the Iranians. So like I said, the history is very, very complicated. But right now we’re getting it all boiled down and like we’re the good guys, they’re the bad guys. Except Trump could have stopped this attack on Iran. Instead he allowed it to go forward. Israel, Israel carried out an incredible intelligence operation because what they, I guarantee you what they told Trump was give us the green light, we’re going to decapitate this Islamic regime, we’re going to kill all these people in just one day.
They’ll collapse and we can put a new ruler in. Trump believed him. Well turned out, yeah, they killed a bunch of people. But within, and they disabled through a cyber war attack, disabled the computer network and the air defense network and they thought it was going to be down for a week which would have gave, you know, time just for Israel to run over them the, the texts. The Iranian techs with Russian assistance got it back up and running in eight hours and four hours later, Iran retaliated with ballistic missiles on Israel and all of a sudden Israel was exposed because their air defense system didn’t work.
The so called. Yeah, it was. Well, it didn’t work with the paragliders either. If you believe, if you believe they really came from Gaza and they, you know, Hamas got to believe that first though, right? The paragliders that penetrated Iron Dome and went in and kill. I don’t, you know, it’s just, yeah, it is. You know, this is, this war didn’t turn out as Israel hoped it would. It cost more imbalance. Yeah. Yeah. Well what it, what it’s done is it, it punctured the myth of Israeli invincibility and, but it also exposed the US weakness because this entire end, the bombing, we’ve now learned that the Trump White House gave the Iranians a two hour heads up.
Hey, we’re coming. We’re going to bomb these plants. So the intelligence could have moved out a lot of important chemicals. Not only could they, they did it had already been removed. The, the amount, that amount, that amount of material which would have weighed about 7,000 pounds. You could load it up in the back of a Tacoma pickup truck. Okay. Really? Yeah, it’s a, it’s, it’s not, we’re not talking massive number. We’re Talking. A package. Wasn’t there radar images of this or satellite images. Sorry, satellite images? Well, they, they had satellite images of trucks that looked like they were lining up fully expecting the US attack to fill in the entrances, to pack the entrances.
So, you know, if something’s packed, it’s more difficult to cave it in. But I know from talking to a friend who’s still active in the intelligence community that the judgment of the intelligence community was all the enriched uranium. And this was before the attack had already been removed. So, you know, here’s Trump saying they obliterated the sites. They didn’t obliterate the sites. It was, this was, this was choreographed to create an off ramp so that again, we could declare victory and get this, get Israel, ceasefire. A lot of the, A lot of the. Go ahead. Sorry.
I just say Israel is running out of missiles. They could sustain this war. I heard another two weeks. That would have been almost impossible. Correct. Yeah. When you, when you look at the damage Iran was doing, and Iran had ample supplies of ballistic missiles. Ample because they manufacture them underground and they store them underground. We don’t really have a good handle on how many. We all get our estimates, but we don’t know. Correct. So. So you’re saying that the enriched uranium was removed? Yes, no doubt about it. So when then? So this was all just theater.
Yes. And, and this is the first time it’s happened. This be used to exposed Israel, Expose Israel in the sense that, okay, now for us to send, it’s time for us to send inspectors in to see your nuclear facilities. Your program. The, the last president that tried to do that was John F. Kennedy. Okay, well, that’s a good point. What happened to him? Yeah, correct. So what do you think the big game is here? So what’s going to happen from here? So Iran says, okay, we’ll do the best deal you can come and inspect our nuclear facilities.
Israel still is. Are they still the puppet master as far as we can see? Well, Israel certainly is pulling our chain and Trump is dancing like a nice little organ grinder monkey to their tune. But, you know, see, David, this is, this has more to do. This really isn’t about nuclear enrichment. This isn’t about Iran trying to get a nuke. This is about regime change, taking, getting rid of the Islamic Republic because they are now partners with Russia and China in an organization. It’s called brics, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. The reason Iran is so important is because of its oil supply and its supply of natural gas and its access to The Arabian Sea, the Gulf of Oman, and where it sits astride the Persian Gulf.
The United States is facing, if you will, an existential economic threat from brics because the countries of Russia, China, and many in the global south are moving away from wanting to using the US Dollar. US Dollar is still sort of the primary currency, but these countries are now recognized. As long as they rely on the US Dollar, they can be held hostage through sanctions. And that’s what Russia demonstrated over the course of the last three and a half years, since the start of that special military operation, as they call it in Ukraine, is the initial sanctions were claimed that they’re going to destroy Russia, level it.
Well, let’s see. 2023, Russia grew 4.1%. 2024, Russia grew 4.4%. Now this year, its growth rate is down to 1.5% because they’re, they’re getting inflation under control and so they’re deflating the economy. But in terms of what they call purchasing power parity, Russia’s got the fourth largest economy in the world. Wow. That means you can go there, you can live, you can live quite well. Better than Japan, better than Germany, better than the United Kingdom, better than France. Wow. I never knew that. I never knew that. Let me ask you, you know, I’ve always, you know, I try not to be an echo chamber on my, on my channel.
You know, I try to bring everyone’s point of view, but, you know, everyone knows I’m a Trump supporter. I believe, yeah, there’s an operation at hand, but I’m not going to discuss that with you because I do admire your expertise and I respect it. You know, I’ve always said when the pendulum swings left, it usually goes right. It’s problem, reaction, solution. I kind of agree with David Ike on his theory of totalitarian tiptoe and how when it goes really far left, it’s going to go really far right. Kind of watching some things that are happening and it’s raising some questions.
Like the TSA all of a sudden gets this unchecked authority for people that are traveling in airports. You know, the, the, the, the, the no kings protests brings out the military, which, you know, I’m wondering, you know, more trip protests are going to take hold and all these things. I start to wonder, is it the same game being played here? Like, is it the same game? Is the hand controlling both side, sides here, the, you know, two wings of the same bird? What’s your view on that? Are we looking at something here that where the last administration caused all these Problems to where this administration comes in, cleans it up, and takes us an inch or a.
A foot closer to totality, the totalitarian tiptoe or police state. Well, we’re already. We’re already seeing it, unfortunately, with Republicans backing it. And let me. Let me lay my bona fides out here. Okay? I’m the one that went to Devin Nunes on March 9, 2017, to warn him how the intelligence community, not just the FBI, but also foreign intelligence, the Brits were spying on Donald Trump and his team. Hold on, you were the one that went to them? Yeah. You went to Devin Nunez when? Yeah, it was March 9, 2017. I thought it was an Admiral Rogers who did that, that said that he was being spied on in the White House.
Well, Roger Rogers, that Rogers was the head of nsa. He went to Trump and told Trump what was going on. But Devin had now been named. He was now the head of the House Intelligence Committee, you know, the hbsci. And I knew Devin because when he was first appointed to that committee, I believe it was 2012, my next door neighbor, I lived in Bethesda, Maryland, at the time, was the largest defense lobbyist in D.C. and he said, hey, I got this Congressman, he’s doesn’t know anything about intelligence. Would you go brief him? I said, sure. So I went, I took a buddy of mine who’d also retired from the agency, and we.
We had like a two, three hour lunch with Devin, just giving him the rundown. So that’s how I had access to Devin. What did Devin. How much did he know at that time? Nothing. Zero. Zero. Well, when I went in, I said, look, Devin, because the previous Saturday, Donald Trump had come out and said, the FBI spying on me. And then I had done, you know, some TV commentary at the time. Actually, the only one who had interviewed me on it was Russia Today, the. The English news version. Of what? Of Russian television. And I was interviewed by them on a Sunday.
And so I called Devin, said, hey, texted him, I’ve got all the text messages still. I said, I need to come talk to you about something. So I walked in, I said, look, you need to understand, here’s what’s going on. This spying on Donald Trump started with the CIA. It started in the summer of 2015. And at the time, it wasn’t just focused on Trump. It was spying on everybody. All. All the presidential candidates. Cruz, Marco Rubio, even Bernie Sanders. But as the primary went on, they narrowed in on Trump. However, British intelligence was cooperating and playing a major role in this.
Why it’s illegal for the National Security Agency to spy on Americans. It’s not illegal for the Brits to spy on Americans. So they. They started the spine, and then at the. At their facility in England, it’s called gchq, General Communications Headquarters. What the initial stand for sitting right next to the GCHQ guys are. Or gals are NSA guys and gals. And so it’s just like, oh, look, we collected this information. Pass it over. That’s how it was going on. That’s. You know, I. I talked to George Papadopoulos like this because he didn’t realize how he got set up in the summer of.
He was in. He was in London in August of 2015. And so he starts reaching out. He has Corin Louis, Corey Lewandowski’s number, and he goes. He gets in touch with Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s campaign manager at the time. And so I’d be interested in hooking up with you, boy. After that, GCHQ intercepted that communication. Papadopoulos then became a target. And so out of the blue, like, in February, late December, January, he gets offered a job as a vice president at this company. The company he was working for was Hunt Company. And at that time, they. They introduced him to this, a guy named Joseph Mifsud.
He’s from Malta, a British intelligence asset. And he starts talking up Papadopoulos about the Russians. The entire effort to paint Trump as a buddy of Putin was started by the CIA. And this is the Russia Gate. Yeah, in conjunction with. Okay, there was. They’re all. They’re all collaborating on this. But anyway, so this is what I explained to Devin, and I said, here’s the name of. Here’s the name of the person. You knew all about this? Yes. Wow. I was writing about it at the time. Nobody paid attention to me. So armed with that information, Devin went, think of three or four days later to the White House.
If you recall that, that was in March of 2017. When he came out of that meeting, out of the White House, he was attacked by reporters, and then they kept going after him. But based on that information, he then turned Cash Patel loose to do the investigation. Have they tried to contact. Go ahead. But I’m the one that started that. Have they tried to reach out to you? Because I know that Cash Patel has made references to Russia Gate saying, get ready for major arrests and things like that. Have they even tried to reach out to you for any kind of.
Nope. Nothing. No good deed goes unpunished, my friend. I. I live by that. That’s one of my favorite sayings. Yeah, so. So they have not reached out to you at all? You’d be like, to me, one of the. Really? Yeah, yeah, it is. You know, I mean, Dev, you know, I’ve still, I still have occasional communication with Devin, but, you know, they never, they never called me back in to say, okay, hey, you know, help us flesh this out. So does that tell you that they’re really trying to do nothing? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Winner, Winner, winner, chicken dinner. Yeah. Hey, look, you know we’re going to get all the JFK files released, right? They haven’t released them. Going to get all the Jeffrey Epstein files, right? Haven’t released them. Well, now, look, so I’m not here to attack Trump. I, I voted. I voted. And you’re on a, you’re in a big Trump channel right now. But I try to not be an echo chamber. I like to listen to all points of views and, and intel. So this is very valuable to me and my audience and I really hope they’re paying attention here because I like to bring in all, I bring on everybody and I find this very valuable.
So I thank you so much for what you’re doing now. It’s just, you know, release the information 100%. I agree with you on that. What are we waiting on? Well, the, one of, I mean, one of the main reasons they’re holding the JFK files back is because Israel is directly implicated in that. Wow. That’s what I’ve heard. Well, and it’s, and I’m not, you know, I’m not manufacturing this out of whole cloth the month before. Hold on. But we can’t talk about that on YouTube, by the way. Oh, we can’t. No. Believe it or not. So.
But I, I know what you’re getting at. I know where you’re pointing fingers. I know that for a fact. We can talk about it more on ninoscorner TV if you want to go there and talk about it. I would love to talk. Dive into it. Yeah, yeah. But be happy to do that. But let’s talk more about. Okay, let’s talk more about. Let’s, let’s kind of shift gears for a second because here we are, you know. Well, actually, let me, I was going to tell you that how this was, this was a choreographed ending to this 12 day war.
In 27, in 2017, there were reports that Syria had used chemical weapons on its people. And in response to that, Donald Trump ordered strike. We’re all going to show them and same thing happened in 2018. Those were all. Those were all staged events. The chemical weapons were done by British intelligence working with this group called the White Helmets. It was a false flag event in order to get the United States to militarily attack. However, I knew it from friends I had at the time who were in the operations center at Al Udid Air Force Base, that the general who was running that air operations center got on the phone with his Russian counterpart to say, hey, Vladimir, listen, we’re going to be bombing this airfield here in about eight hours, so you might want to, you know, clear out your personnel and get any sensitive equipment out.
Get. Because we’re going to be attacking with this number of missiles, and we’re going to come in. You gave them all the information. It was all coordinated. So they let them know. Yeah, and we did the same telegraph before. They do the same. Yeah, same in 2018. So what happened here? Trump lets the Iranians, we’re coming to bomb. We’re going to have a big show. And then. And then the Iranians then said, okay, we’re going to attack Al Udi, get all your people out. Qatar, you’re talking about. Yeah, that’s in Aladid Air Force Base, sits right outside of Doha, Qatar.
Okay, so where are we at now? Do you see? And then we’ll take this back to Nino’s Corner tv, if you don’t mind, because I really want to dive deep into this stuff that we can’t. I got. I’m fluffed to. But where do you see us now in this window of time? Do you see a terrorist event happening in America? I think. I think the risk of a false flag is very high, and that it will be blamed on Iran, with Iran not being the culprit, and it’ll be used as a justification for us to continue attacks on Iran.
But, you know, as we saw, you remember what we tried to do with the Houthis, and this shows you it’s the limitation on the ability of the US military to, you know, finish a deal. We fought 20 years in Afghanistan. We couldn’t pacify the place. 20 years. We just gave him everything. Yeah, it wasn’t. We said, well, we just didn’t try hard enough. Look, you’re too young to remember Vietnam. I do. That was our excuse at the end of Vietnam. We just didn’t try hard enough. Well, we. Yeah, we tried plenty hard. So first, Lloyd Austin, under Joy Joe Biden, they launched Operation Prosperity Guardian, and they start attacking the Houthis.
And so for 15 months, from December of 2023, until Trump is inaugurated in January of 2025, the US had a, we had an aircraft carrier station there with the destroyers, and we did, we did. We were bombing, trying to stop the Houthis from interfering with ships. Couldn’t do it. So Trump comes in, says, I’m going to show them. They just didn’t. They weren’t trying hard enough. Now, during that 15 month period, the Houthis shot down one Predator drone, MQ9 Reaper a month. One a month. So they had down 15. In 15 months, they’re down 15 Predator drones.
And the reason for those drones was when you’ve got mobile missile launchers out running around the mountains and valleys and deserts, you got to have something that’s on top of it, real time, giving you live imagery so that then you can actually hit, have a good chance of hitting it, because otherwise you can’t see it, can’t hit it. So that’s why those drones were over there. That’s why they were getting shot down. So Trump comes in and says, by God, we’re going to do it. We’re going to go show those Houthis, and launched the operation. It was still under prosperity guardian, but they put a, a different name on it.
And over seven weeks, the ensuing seven weeks, the Houthis shot down one Predator drone a week. So they went from doing one a month to one a week. You said, well, so What? Those are 30 to 35 billion dollars a piece. Damn. So you shoot down, you shoot down seven in seven weeks. Wow. All of a sudden you’re up to almost a quarter of a billion dollars. Okay. So then on top of it, we lost two or three F18 Hornets. And those, those airplanes, at least two got dropped in the, in the ocean. Third one crashed.
You know, so that brought up, between that and then all the missiles we were firing, we were up well over a billion dollars in just seven weeks. So remember, Trump declared victory. The Houthis have capitulated. Sayonara, we’re out of here. We pulled out of the Red Sea. Well, the Houthis didn’t capitulate. They had a victory celebration. They had a parade. And they continued to fire missiles into Israel. They just fired another one yesterday. And they continue to shut down the Red Sea. Any ship that’s heading to Israel, they’re not allowing it to pass. Now what did we accomplish? What we accomplished was showing the world that these Houthis stopped the U.S.
navy and the U.S. air Force. Now, once again, we’ve, I don’t know why Trump did it to go out and we obliterated it. You know, my attitude is, let’s say you did. Downplay it. Underplay it. Don’t overplay it. You’re not, you’re not trying to sell me a piece of property. You know, in fact, say, oh, no, man, I’m not sure what we did right. Let them tell the story because it doesn’t strengthen our strategic position to be out front. Said, oh, man, we obliterated it. And then watch, in two or three weeks, those sites are going to be up and running.
Maybe. So do you think there’s going to be a terrorist attack on our soil that sucks us back into this war? I think it’s definitely possible, yes. Just as, just as happened on 9 11. Okay. So I’ve heard it could be that, that size or even bigger with all the immigrants that have come through the southern border, that could be activated, that the next attack could be something like we’ve never seen before. Yeah, I’ve. I’m not sure, you know, what they call sleeper cells and activation from the standpoint of a lot of the skills, whether you’re building explosives or shooting firearms.
I mean, you know, those are the two categories we’re looking at here. Those are perishable skills. You know, you got to be able to maintain, and you maintain it by being able to, you know, exercise or do those activities. Now maybe some of these shooters have gone, you know, some of the, you know, potential sleeper cells are active members at a, at a gun range somewhere and regularly shooting. You know, that could be. But again, when these attacks take place, it is usually, you know, it’s usually designed. It has more of a purpose politically, domestically to get Americans where they’re saying, okay, yeah, we give up our civil rights, the totalitarian tiptoe, yeah, you can spy on us.
If we say the wrong thing, you can arrest us. You know, if you enter a government building and, and we decide we want to call that an insurrection, that. We’re going to call that an insurrection and make you criminals. Right. For. For peacefully, for peacefully protesting and like, like whatever. Yeah. And we’re, we’re with. That’s. I was avoiding talking about that. But that’s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but. And we’ve seen such a double standard there where, you know, these leftist groups get to storm state capitals and they even stormed the US Capitol cities. And they’re not rioting, burned down cities.
They’re not put in prison. Now I, but again, I come down on it, on, you know, we need to protect the civil liberties, even of those we dislike. You know, there was a. Back in 1978. Was it 78, 79. Supreme Court ruled in favor of. Of a group of neo Nazis who were allowed to march in joliet, Illinois. Now, this section of Illinois had a lot of survivors of the holocaust and a heavy Jewish presence, But nonetheless, the supreme court back then ruled that those marchers could march. Now, I’m not endorsing what. What they were marching for at all, but part of the strength of our country is that we could entertain even those with repugnant views because we believe more importantly in the principle of free speech and liberty.
Now, I come out of, you know, I’m a 16th, 1600American from this standpoint. My, my first relative started showing up around 1620, 1621, and continued to arrive. My fifth great uncle was the secretary of the continental congress, so Charles Thompson. So, you know, I had 28 ancestors that fought in the American revolution. So I value this country, what it stands for, what it’s supposed to stand for. But that’s when I get. And start speaking out, when we, we go astray of our values. And, you know, it’s one thing, you know, like, with protests that have erupted.
We’re very selective at who gets to protest what. Right there, there are certain countries and certain protests that you’re not allowed to do and others where you are allowed. And it’s just, you know, my attitude is I. I believe firmly in the freedom of speech, no matter how. How objectionable. Objectionable it is. Larry, I appreciate you coming on. This was amazing. I’m gonna put this up on YouTube. The, the uncensored, unedited version will be on ninoscorner tv. Folks, could we do a part two on this? Can we continue this conversation on nino’s corner tv? Would you mind? Yeah, yeah, that’d be fine.
I. I appreciate you. Stay with me, sir. Larry Johnson. Where do people go to find you? Or do you have. Yeah, I’m at Sonar. Sonar21.coms o n a r21.com. That stands for Son of the New American Revolution. 21st century, 24 or 21? 21. 21. Okay, so Sonar21.com number 2121. Yes, got it. Sonar21.com. I’ll put it there at the bottom of the video. Folks, click on it, support them, give them a follow. Larry, stay with me just for a second, okay? God bless you, sir. Yes, sir.
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