Summary
➡ The speaker argues that racial reparations could lead to more discrimination and division, suggesting that a socialist revolution is the only way to truly provide reparations. They also discuss the conflict between Israel and Palestine, expressing support for Israel and facing hostility for this stance. The speaker criticizes those who refuse to engage in civil conversation, labeling them as terrorists and expressing frustration at their unwillingness to listen to differing views. The speaker also comments on the chaotic state of the Democratic National Convention and the hostility faced by those with differing views.
Transcript
There is no incentive for capitalism. There is no incentive to be better. This person shouldn’t make more than this person regardless of what they do because it’s all of ours. It’s all of the governments and we want the government to be even more involved in our lives as far as making sure that they determine what is happening everywhere amongst us instead of removing the restrictions and allowing for the government to then just only enable us to do more of what we already want to do. The power is taken away from the people and is put in the hands of the government and Vivek Ramaswamy decided to entrench himself on the left in order to have a conversation with communists or people that believe in this way of living.
I absolutely never ever ever want to live like they live in China, Venezuela, or Russia, Molly. And so Vivek decided to insert himself and have a conversation with these people and this is what happened. From America is the American section of the revolutionary country. May I take some literature? You can read it but it is for sale. That’s for sale. It’s for sale. I know! In a capitalist country. How much is it? Depends. So that’s all under five bucks, papers, five bucks. I think we can afford that. I would say so. Let’s uh get my wallet.
I like this. See the communists have Venmo. They’ve got all the digital infrastructure. I like that. Well we can do cash. Which what’s your best book? Oh best book. Well let’s see I don’t want to give you one you might use. Uh here how about if you want to know what we’re about brother? That’s good. Absolutely. What’s this one about? This is our paper. We write this and we produce it. How much is this? Also five dollars. All right. We’ll give you a second five dollars. All right thank you. Let’s work together. Cool.
Thank you. So let me ask you uh my here’s my issue. This is one of my issues with Kamala Harris. I want your perspective on it. I think she has two issues. She has not stated her actual policies and the reason I respect somebody like Bernie Sanders more than I respect Kamala and I’ve said this numerous cases. I’m not saying it just right now. Is if you have convictions at least stand by him. If you believe in single-payer health care, if you believe in an effective national health care system for all then stand by it.
But why adopt those positions four years ago only to back off of them today? I could disagree with you but at least have the position to stick to and that’s what my criticism is. And my suspicion is there might be some counterintuitive alliances between the so-called far left and actually segments of the so-called far right that want to stay out of foreign wars, that want to end crony capitalism and lobbying and government capture to say that you know what? He might be too smart for them honestly. Honestly. Let me tell you what Vivek is and we’re gonna get back into it because I want to play the entire interaction.
The problem with Vivek is that Vivek thinks that people um or people that that are on the left or people that disagree with him are civilized people. Vivek has never been into the hood. That’s the problem with Vivek. Honest to God. Vivek has never been into the hood. Vivek thinks that you can negotiate with terrorists. You can’t. He’s trying to have a logical conversation not a debate but a logical conversation with people that think differently from him and I haven’t seen this at all. I just seen that it came up on the algorithm or whatever like that.
Nobody actually sent this to me. This was a part of my algorithm and he’s too smart. It’s almost like he doesn’t understand the street aspect of things which he can be incredibly useful. Incredibly useful obviously has benefited him greatly. He’s become a multi-millionaire as a result of it but at the same time I think that Vivek is incredibly green on how to deal with people that don’t give a flying f about you and there is a demographic of people that don’t care and the difference is that you gotta you gotta be self-aware enough or you gotta be aware of your surroundings not to catch your pearls between swine.
So the idea of it is that having a conversation is good but who you’re having a conversation with matters just as much because similar to the Jay-Z lyric you argue with fools and people can’t tell who was who. It just it’s almost like disrespectful to have a conversation with people that are basically terrorists. You can’t negotiate with terrorists. They’re not changing their mind. They’re not they’re not open to what you gotta say. He’s making too much sense and he’s too smart. Half of the stuff that he’s saying they probably it’s probably going over their head but let me just see what’s gonna happen.
There might be ways where you may not agree with 100% of what I say or what Donald Trump says but you don’t have to agree with 100% of what somebody says to think outside the box and vote a little bit differently. What do you think? I actually you said I wanted you know I am here to to listen a little bit so I’d love to hear your guys’s perspectives on why you’re here and why you have your own disappointments with the current direction of this. This is going to be able to represent us they can’t be pressured into representing us because we don’t pay their bills we don’t pay Kamala’s Trumps we don’t pay yours because they all have financial factors that’s why we need a workers party to take down the two ruling class parties one that doesn’t he’s not speaking to anything that Vivek said whatsoever.
Vivek says what do you think about Kamala Harris’s nine policies and the fact that she stood on this back then but she won’t stand on it now and so his suspect his suspicion was that there is a incentive between the elites to ultimately keep certain things in place in order to benefit a certain demographic of people. That is the summary of what Vivek asked he gave his suspicions he asked a question and a dude completely went off the rails and said let’s do away with the dude by the look you’re not you’re not negotiating with these people.
I have funding from these big businesses and it’s instead funded by its membership. Yeah but you realize the convention you’re having to preach to you then but I mean who buys the sweets right talking about populist talk from the floor of the convention stand up for the workers and break up the very companies that are sponsoring the whole event right so there’s a bit of a paradox there but you know all I would say is paradox and what exactly of controlled rhetoric right you have a lot of corporate interests controlling the way in which they actually assail those very corporate interests which is kind of interesting it is I think we might be saying something similar it’s all a bit of a charade I would say one thing that is definitely we’re not similar on is you were talking about unification of like the far right the far left um there is you know I don’t know about unification but there may be some common threats well we would say this there is no perfect american communism american socialism like this you know these other little parties popping up it has to be international we aren’t here for the success of american uh american working class because the only way we can be there for the success american working class is the international working class working class in canada and in mexico if you had some and now we don’t believe in this but let’s say there was some perfect uh you know socialist america it would immediately get pushed out by china by russia by europe so we need an international socialist revolution in order to secure a true victory for the working class vivek what are your starfall reparations for black americans so here’s my perspective i was asked about this when i came to the south side of chicago a year ago and my position on this has not changed is i’m against race-based reparations because i think it will create more division what about race-based discrimination that occurred in this country for yeah so these people are not trying to hear what he’s saying before he even finished his answer they said well what about it what you can’t negotiate with these people let me just clarify one aspect i think there was a time and place for it in the reconstruction era but today when we actually bring back racial reparations it actually causes greater discrimination not more i think we’re seeing a wave arise in anti-black and i think other forms of racism in the country but part of the reason i think we’re seeing it is there’s no better way to foster racial animus than to take something away from someone based on their skin color so don’t get black people justice because it’ll make other people upset well because it’s going to create more division and be self-defeating i think it’s actually going to set black americans back because it will cause i mean actually black americans continue to live i want to move out of the middle of this you are not going to be able to solve this problem under capitalism you’re always going to be coming up with these little band-aid issues that is why the only way to truly get reparations for the indigenous people for the black americans in this country is a socialist revolution is by seizing the means of production and letting that community give themselves reparations we don’t need to be asking for oh please god i’m curious as to what you’re doing here are you a supporter of the genociding of the palestinian people i am an american who is actually here to listen to the views of people who disagree with me now one of the reasons i am i’m supporting the united states and because of that i support israel in our relationship with it you support a genocide that has killed 40 000 palestinians in the last 10 months so look i think that the truth is there was an attack that precipitated it and we can’t ignore that see all of this you see all of this you can’t have a civilized conversation with people that don’t give a f about what you say the vet says listen i’m here to listen to people that may disagree with me it immediately turned hostile these kinds of games i’m an organizer i’m not one of your i’m also pregnant i’m not one of these people you’re not a party you’re not an acolyte of yours you’re not a partisan i’m not an acolyte of yours and i’m not a hack for you or for the democrats or for the republicans or nobody else i got you i’m asking you yep that you have no right to be here if you’re not in support of the palestinian people well i think if you’re not going to call here’s what i believe you have the right to be here you have the right to be here you’re not going to call so do we enter the genocide and it ends with the killing and the end of support of israel then you should take off we don’t want you here you’re not welcome here well the good news is we’re america and so we actually get to all express ourselves really you get to express being a racist you get to express being a racist is that what you get to express i’m from american you cannot and let me let you all know this again you cannot in any capacity whatsoever negotiate with people that don’t give a f about you they are they don’t care they don’t want to hear it either shut up and get out of my way or whatever you cannot fight a terrorist with logic you can’t out you can’t try to convince them of anything other than it’s just pain and suffering that’s all that comes with them people it’s it’s toxicity pain and suffering ain’t no conversations ain’t no civilization and these people be over into this country i’m not even sure if they ever if they even supposed to be here we don’t even know what the citizenship is with this man that’s talking right now i believe in your right to speak your mind now look at look at where it’s going look where it’s going he was over there chilling bought they little propaganda i would throw that junk in their face shut up brought their little propaganda here here’s five dollars here’s ten dollars let me buy them both okay next thing you know it went from hey let me hear what your views are to it’s already look at it racist go home you see what happens when you let the will let the inmates run the asylum when you don’t put a a stop to it immediately you see what happens do you see what happens when you try to negotiate with terrorists he don’t know the street the streets it’s a different animal you just don’t even go you know democratic national convention is a mess bro and they following them too they’re not even just letting them walk away peacefully they follow when i’m antagonizing look at the person that’s next to him look at these crazy fools look at these crazy fools in the street you gonna sit there and try to negotiate with these people look at these people are y’all gonna try to sit there and try to negotiate with these people that’s a black person in white face that’s a black person in white face
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