Summary
➡ China has recently surpassed other countries in electric car production, but it’s not the main source of electric cars for the U.S. Despite some Americans’ dislike for electric cars, the global economy is moving towards them. The U.S. needs to adapt to this change to stay competitive globally, which includes supporting electric car manufacturing and infrastructure. This is important for the future, even if it means moving away from traditional gasoline cars.
➡ The discussion revolves around the transition to electric vehicles (EVs) and the challenges it presents, such as the need for improved infrastructure and the resistance to change. The speakers agree that while the U.S. used to lead in market changes, it no longer does, and that the transition to EVs is inevitable. They also discuss the potential of technologies like Tesla’s Powerwall to supplement the grid. However, they acknowledge that the transition will not be smooth and will require significant investment and adaptation.
➡ The discussion revolves around the future of energy, with a focus on solar power, nuclear energy, and electric vehicles. The speakers agree that while solar power is important, it’s not the only solution, and nuclear energy should be considered more. They also discuss the pros and cons of electric vehicles, with one speaker sharing his positive experience with his electric car, while the other raises concerns about their reliability and maintenance costs.
Transcript
CB’s Nancy Cordis is at the White House with what this means for american consumers. After years of warning, China President Biden put his pen where his mouth is today, quadrupling the tariff on chinese EV’s from 25% to 100%. I’m determined that the future of electric vehicles will be made in America by union workers, period. The move comes as EV’s from chinese automaker byd gain traction around the world at about half the price of us made cars. One thing that my grandfather used to always tell me are good things aren’t cheap and cheap things aren’t good. Dorian Jimenez owns a Chevy dealership in Oklahoma City.
I’m glad that our government is going that direction. And the more things that we can keep in house, the greater it can be for us. Biden’s hikes apply to far more than EV’s. Chinese steel and aluminum will be hit with a 25% tariff. Solar panel sales will go to 50%, and so will chinese syringes and needles. Biden finally listen to me. He listens to me. Former President Donald Trump hiked tariffs on a much broader swath of chinese goods in 2018. And you know what the funny part about it is, and this is the part that I want to, I want to emphasize, Trump literally did this in 2018.
Biden in 2019, when they were campaigning for the presidential election that wind up taking place in 2020, actually said that he was against what Trump did when it came to tariffs on chinese products at the time, especially considering that Trump also renegotiated the NAFTA North American Free Trade Agreement with both Canada Mexico. Let me say that again. At the time, Trump had already instituted and had became embroiled in a tariff war, which is one of the things that’s been credited with helping to save the steel industry. And he went in during his presidency from 2016 through 2020 and implemented a trade war because he said that the ability for chinese companies to do business and make profit from american companies, including automakers and stuff like that, was imbalanced.
It was imbalanced. He accomplished more in his four years than any of the presidents in our lifetime right. Now. Here was the caveat, though, right? And this is the part that people didn’t pay attention to. Biden never, ever removed the very tariffs that Trump put in place in order to protect american workers. But we don’t get that part of the story. Let me say that again. He never, ever removed the tariffs that was in place from chinese companies or against the chinese. He never removed the tariffs. He kept them in place because he’s seen the effectiveness of it.
And so now what he did was he piggybacked off of what the Trump administration had already implemented and then he implemented more tariffs. Now, let me give Biden a little bit of credit, all right? Let me give Biden a little bit of credit because I always want to be objective, even though I think he’s a terrible president, always want to be objective. I think that this is a good thing. I think that it is a phenomenal thing. And I credit him what actually doing and continuing the thing that was already in place that was good for the american industries.
Because now one of the reasons that is really good is not because capitalism shouldn’t be free. It’s because when you look at a comparison of what it takes in order to do business over in China versus what China is doing as far as doing business over in other countries, it’s incredibly imbalanced, 1000% imbalanced. So much so that Tesla was the first and one of the only manufacturers that was able to go over there and didn’t have to partner with a chinese company and then get all of the intellectual property stolen as a result of it in order to be able to do business over in China.
And then all of the automakers, especially the electric automakers over there in China, was subsidized, meaning that they were able to operate at a much lower cost, which would have then drove a lot of the automakers over here in the United States of America out of business. And so he had to, Biden had to. Because you can’t say that you supported the union when then you letting everybody infiltrate, such as when Clinton did. Clinton. Yeah, yeah, let’s revisit it. Because all y’all thought that Clinton was awesome. Clinton sold out american manufacturing to foreign investment. Ten times out of ten, 100%.
He gave it away. He gave away all of your jobs and he sold y’all on a lie. And he was the one that helped build up the housing crisis that then ultimately imploded in 2008, 1000%. So, yeah, I think that this is a good thing, but let’s continue. At the time, Biden argued that would spark a trade war, raising costs for everyone. He did. Biden argued at the time that it was sparked a trade war. Let me say it again. Biden absolutely was 100%. These politicians, they bank on the fact that y’all forget and that y’all got short memories because y’all like shorts and y’all don’t like long form content.
They’re banking on the idea that you guys have short memories and you don’t forget what it is that they said. Because he was 100% against putting tariffs on chinese and chinese companies from doing business over here in the United States of America. 1000%. He said that he was against it and he said it would spark a trade war. And look what he’s doing. He’s piggybacking off of it. And he’s absolutely, positively implementing a trade war by making sure that he slaps a 100% tariff on any chinese company that’s choosing to do business. Society, United States of America, specifically when it comes to manufacturing and battery sales after the wrong thing with China.
Even today, reaction from around the country was mixed. Colorado’s democratic governor, Jared Polis said this is horrible news for american consumers and a major setback for clean energy. This tax increase will hit every family. But the White House argues China’s unfair trade practices have been hurting manufacturing states like Michigan and Pennsylvania. Those happen to be swing states as well. But officials here insist these new tariffs have nothing to do with the fact that we’re in an election year. Nora cap. Because if he wanted to slap some tariffs on some people, then how come he didn’t do it in 2020-2021-2022-2023? Why is.
Listen, y’all, y’all gotta start paying attention to the timelines. Why isn’t these tariffs. Why wasn’t these tariffs implemented prior to 2024? Election season endorsement from the UAW United steelworkers. How come these tariffs wasn’t implemented prior to that? Neither here nor there. Let’s continue. Let me, let me switch over to another report. I want to get it from another perspective. This is a really big moment for the global economy because Joe Biden has imposed these tariffs. Let me just kind of show you what we’re talking about with tariffs. Of course, that’s the amount that you have to pay to get goods into a given country.
And in the US, up until recently, actually, there was a standard car tariff. The most favored nation tariffs is known, 2.5%. So it wasn’t much for China. It wasn’t much for places, other places that are trying to send cars to the US. Then, of course, Donald Trump came in and he raised it. He raised it by 25%. A lot of people thought Joe Biden wouldn’t continue that, but now he has actually gone further. He’s doubled down that fact. Actually, he’s kind of quadrupled down on Donald Trump. A new 100% tariff. That’s on top of the 2.5%.
So actually, it’s 102.5% tariffs, enormous tariffs. And why is the US doing this? Well, partly is because they’re really worried about competition. They’re worried about competition from China. And this chart really kind of shows you that story. It shows you global exports of cars from all of these countries. So the biggies, like the US, like, y’all like. Do you all like foreign. That’s what y’all say. Y’all like foreign women? Y’all like foreign cars. You like. You like foreign foods. So you got South Korea, right? You got the Honda and the kias. You got Germany. Yeah, I like Germany.
I like Stuttgart. Right? And so you got Germany, which, you know, you got your Porsche, your mercedes, you got all of that, right? And then you got Japan, which is your Hondas and your Toyotas. And so these are cars that are exported into the United States of America by country, Germany, like Japan. And look at China. Okay, so the red line here, it was really low for years and years and years, up until recently, when it has overtaken everyone else. And why has it done that? It’s because of electric cars. China’s so dominant when it comes to electric cars.
But here’s the thing. They’re not dominant when it comes to electrical imports into the US. This is showing you where the US is getting its electric cars from right now. And this is one of the reasons why I keep telling you guys that. Y’all keep saying, we don’t like electric cars. We don’t like electric cars. I get it. I feel you. American tastes and the consumers within the United States of America is completely different from the rest of the world. But guess what? We’re in a global economy. One thing that I will give Biden credit for is that he has the foresight to implement the infrastructure bill that ultimately incentivizes us to make the transition over to electric vehicles because it’s coming no matter what.
Why? Because, again, it’s in a global economy. One of the problems with american consumers and one of the problems with american voters is that they only see things through the lens of their own city, their own state, and their own country. And so even though you may say, well, I don’t like Tesla, I hate Tesla, well, basically, you killing Tesla essentially opens the door to the byds and the Volkswagens and all of this stuff of people that are ultimately going to sell a s load of cars here inside the United States of America so we can look at it based off of our lens and what we’ve been trained to like or whatever, because we like our hellcats, our chargers, we like the v eight s and all of that stuff.
Cool. But guess what? We have to make decisions based off of a global competition and what’s best for our children. And so you can always say, okay, well, I don’t like it or I’m pissed at it or I’m pissed at the infrastructure deal. But the reality is that if you want to continue to compete on a global scale and you don’t want to continue to downgrade the american manufacturing process and you don’t want to continue to import cars over something that’s coming anyway, then you have to evolve and you have to adapt and you have to embrace what it is that they’re doing on a global scale.
Because when automatic manufacturers are looking at things, they’re not just looking to compete based off of here what’s going on in America, they looking to compete on what’s going on in the world. Ford sells cars in China. Ford sales cars in Europe. GM sells cars in China. GM sells cars in Europe. GM sells cars everywhere. Right? And when I went over to Tokyo, I think I seen some teslas, but I didn’t see any GM, Ford or anything like that. Right? And so my point is that, you know, when you looking to make a move or when you making a decision, you making a decision based off of the long term view and not just the short term impact.
Right? We gonna say, oh, my God, only thing we want is oil based cars. We want gasoline cars. I feel you. I like gasoline cars, too, but also I’m paying attention to what exactly type of future that my daughter is going to live in. Let’s continue and look at China Red Bit over there. It’s really small, actually, if I kind of just pull that across there, you see, it’s one of the smallest importers into the US. But of course, you’ve got the EU there, you’ve got South Korea. A big question is how much, how many chinese components going into mexican cars that then go over the border? We don’t really know what’s going to happen with that.
What we do know is a lot of the components inside of electric cars, because it’s not just about the car, it’s about what goes inside it. They also come from China. So you’ve got the battery, the cell, as people call it. This is showing you global dominance of China. The red bits there is China’s chinese dominance. That dark bit there, that’s the US. You can see how dominant China is when it comes to the cells, but also the chemicals inside the cells, the cathodes, China, massively dominant there. The anodes, the graphite that you need inside these batteries as well.
And we could extend this and look at other things as well, like hydrogen, you could look at concrete, you could look at steel. China, incredibly dominant. And all of the point here is the US is trying to increase its share, but it’s going to be very difficult. It’s going to be difficult to, not just for batteries, but also for solar as well, because look at how China is way ahead of the rest on that as well. So it’s only. I don’t understand why y’all disagree. What do you disagree with? I tell you what, just for the sake of conversation, I’m gonna entertain you.
I’m gonna oblige you, okay? I’m going to allow for you to be able to come up and say whatever it is that you disagree with and give me the insight behind why I’m raw when it comes to how it is that we’re supposed to be pivoting ourselves and positioning ourselves as far as manufacturing is concerned. I will oblige you. I am going to drop the link in the chat for anybody that disagrees with me, and you are more than welcome to be able to come up here and you don’t have to be on camera. But help me to understand specifically when it comes to manufacturing electric vehicles, what do you disagree with? Nah, don’t get scared now.
Feel free. I just dropped the link in the chat. I’m not going to pin it to the top of the chat, but feel free to come up here and help me to understand where I’m wrong at all. Let me go ahead and show you this last video and then we’re going to continue over. As far as this conversation about manufacturing and the tariffs over in China, well, we’re going to kick things off with a deep dive into President Biden’s tariffs. Biden is raising tariffs on clean energy goods from China. That includes things like electric vehicles, batteries and solar panels.
Even so, let’s take a step back and define what a tariff is. Tariffs are a tax imposed by one country on the goods and services imported from another country. So why raise tariffs? Well, President Biden is concerned that China is using unfair trade practices to keep most of the global production and manufacturing in the country. So in an effort to promote industry growth here in America, Biden is raising the rate of the tariffs on certain goods imported to the US from China, hoping american companies then will build more here instead of buying from overseas. Hey, what’s going on? Jerry’s.
Jerrys, hello. Hey, what’s going on? What do you disagree with? Uh, I know we were, uh, you were on the subject about, uh, Ev’s and how we need to position ourselves as a country for a global market. What I disagree with you about is the whole global market thing. One of the problems with EV’s is that some of the other markets even there, even, even they don’t even like Ev’s like that. They don’t like that the governments over there are forcing them with the whole emission standards and you know how they want to move to a pollution free environment.
So like, even them, they don’t like it either because what’s causing them to do is their businesses can’t. They’re having problems transition because now you have to invest in all this infrastructure. As far as doing the charging stations, where are you going to get the power from? And invest it inside the trucks and technology, finding people to fix it, the dealer support, the batteries, manufacturing. Like country in particular are you referring to? Give me an example. I know. So this is God I watch inside the UK. His name is Daniel Ashfield. He has a construction company in.
Big, big youtuber, black guy. Actually he has this construction business and he, for the most part he has, he has probably 40, 50 trucks. But one of the things that he’s been running into over there and he’s been working with their local government is he, he’s been running to the issue of trying to transition his whole fleet into electric trucks. So he was just talking about how much it costs to do that. So they’ve been looking into different options, where to subsidize it, where to give him a tax incentive to transition his fleet of trucks. So that was just one of the things.
But it’s just. So you’re talking about costs, right? And you’re talking about a business person that’s saying that they’re trying to figure out what the cost is to continue to transition over into what eventually is going to become a norm within a market. Right, right. So again, that’s just a normal business expense that somebody is complaining about. That does not necessarily mean that there are not massive countries that are absolutely, positively going over into moving over into EV’s. That’s just the way that it is. China itself is literally the second biggest market when it comes to automobile, automobile purchases and manufacturing.
And they literally are moving into a 100% EV future. And so if you want to compete in the second biggest purchasing market and growing, where people are literally only buying EV vehicles, you have to transition. I think I understand what you’re saying. I’m not saying that we shouldn’t have EV’s. What I’m saying is for our government to force it down our throats to almost mandate it. If technology is better, if it’s that much better, trust me, you know, I believe in capitalism. Capitalism will solve that. But it’s us being forced is what we don’t like currently.
You see that? Listen, listen, listen, listen. Capitalism doesn’t solve for infrastructure. That’s literally what we pay taxes for. Capitalism doesn’t solve for infrastructure at all. One of the. Okay, so I’ll give you an example. One of the reasons why it’s so difficult for us to adjust when it comes to anything that happens within the economy, as far as moving in a completely different direction. I give you an example. AI, right? We aren’t ready, all right, for artificial intelligence because we have no way to continue to continue to regulate it inside of the United States of America, right? There are no consequences.
There’s no way for us to be able to punish offenders if somebody creates a deep fake video, if somebody messes with the election process or whatever, is very difficult for us to be able to adjust for that. Content creation is another thing, right? Content creation is big, but the IR’s has literally been very, very slow to adjust to a completely different new field, even though social media has been around for a long time. And so what you find in a lot of content creators doing is that they having a hard time debating between the IR’s as far as what a write off is and what isn’t because it takes a long time for the government to continue to adjust to whatever the market is going.
Ev’s, they largely ignored EV’s because they didn’t think that Tesla will be a thing. And now what they saying is the biggest problem is they saying, well, we don’t have the grid, we don’t have the infrastructure. Well, that’s because we never invested in infrastructure. If you look at a lot of these other countries, right, the market supports the infrastructure upgrades because they then invest more money into their roles. They invest more money into the infrastructure and less money into social services, which then allows for the market to mature the way that it’s supposed to. When you’re looking at it from a global view, and so you’re only looking at it and you saying, well, we not ready for it or they shouldn’t be forced down our throat.
What do you think that seatbelts are? What do you think that emissions is? All of these things are literally forced on us in order to create an environment based off of whoever it is that votes whoever it is in office. So when you get a Joe Biden in office, even though I didn’t vote for, for him, when you get somebody like a Joe Biden in office and he says, hey, listen, I got this infrastructure deal, we about to do. We about to do this, we about to do the chips act and all of this stuff. He told y’all what he was going to do.
When you get a Brandon Johnson, when you get a Brandon Johnson in office, he tells you what he’s going to do. And so when you vote for these people in the office, whether you disagree with him or not, they then are in charge to make the deals or to improve the infrastructure based off of where they see the, the economy going. And so, right or wrong, like it or not, when you vote these people in office, it’s not that they’re forcing it on you. They giving you what they already campaign they were going to do. As far as making sure that they compete in the global market.
Absolutely. And when you talk about the infrastructure, I agree with every single last point that you just made. When you talk about infrastructure, America has an inside the infrastructure. There’s no reason why we don’t have those speed rail trains like how the other countries do. And we got bridges that are, and you up in Michigan, how y’all had, you know, water treatment plants that are literally failing. Same here with me. I live inside Toledo, Ohio, and we had the same problem, too. America definitely has agent infrastructure. It definitely needs to be addressed. I think the problem is with me, when it comes to, comes down to Biden, if you do, if, if they do have this aspiration of forcing us, it doesn’t seem like the infrastructure, what the infrastructure act was enough to get the infrastructure that needs to be built to make it, to make sure that, uh, no Ev’s will be, um, will be a good choice and a good option for business owners.
I don’t. Infrastructure at was. It was enough. I think we’re going to need literally almost a. Pretty much a total overhaul. Well, everything is transitional. Everything. It’s not supposed to be a one shot. Um, it’s supposed to be a long term deal. Right. So, I mean, I don’t completely disagree with you. I’m just saying that for a lot of people, they always say that changes, they don’t want change. But change is constant. It’s coming. And whether you like it or not, the United States of America is no longer the place that determines what change is going to happen in a global marketplace.
We used to be the market leaders and everybody was, you know, is following a pie piper of America. That doesn’t happen anymore. Oh, no, no. And I agree with you to some extent. It’s just. What. What is the timeline for that? How do we transition? I get what you’re saying. We are going to transition to, you know, other ways of power and vehicles and stuff like that. I do think electric motors is a way, but I’m thinking more. So hybrids will be probably more dominant than a full out electric vehicles will be. That’s what I think.
But it’s just how do we. How we make sure that it’s a smooth transition. There’s never going transition ever. You’ll see. Kicking and screaming all along, along the way. Got it. I appreciate you. Thank you for coming up, big dog. Absolutely, bro. All right. Is it Leroy? Let’s see if we can get Leroy up here. What’s up, Leroy? Leroy. Going once. Leroy going twice. Steve? Steve, you there? I’m here. Id. How you doing? What’s going on? What’s your thoughts? Big fan, man. Usually I agree with you on most stuff, but I’m coming at this from two ways.
I’m a lifelong Wall Streeter and I’m also a trained mechanic. I’m an ase certified engine builder in a previous life. Got you. So I’m coming at you from the perspective of the infrastructure. Right. There was an article out there maybe a year, year and a half ago, somewhere outside of Chicago, they wanted to transfer, transition everything over to electric vehicles, garbage trucks, so on, so forth. Mmm. When they were this proposal, they came out and they said the amount of energy that it would take for the base charging station for all of these city vehicles, et cetera, would exceed the amount of power that the city takes in right now to power all homes, everything all combined, it comes down to energy density.
So I think maybe in the future, but you’re talking battery technology has to take a leap, 2030 years, to get where you’re at. I don’t think so. I don’t think so. So if you, for example, if you look at Tesla’s Powerwall, for example, and how they’ve basically transitioned a lot of these countries to be supplemental off the grid, Tesla’s infrastructure, which we don’t even necessarily use here in the United States of America, to a larger extent, Tesla’s Powerwall and what it is that they’ve set up as far as in other countries, absolutely puts, puts energy back into the grid when they embrace it correctly.
And so the way that we have our infrastructure set up currently versus how we should have it set up in the future. And I think that over time, technology continues to improve. One of the things that happens, especially when it comes to newer technology, is the more that we drive to it and the more that we adopt it, the further, the further. Further down the cost drives. I mean, the further down we drive the cost, which ultimately yields a more conducive environment for us to continue to invest in the infrastructure. But I do believe that there is technology that already exists.
Absolutely. Whether or not we want to embrace it or whether or not we’re incentivized to do so, is a completely different conversation. So the Tesla Powerwall, you know, I just actually just went through maybe eight or ten different companies a proposal for solar, for my house, Tesla Powerwall. And I’m not just talking about, I’m not just talking about residential, I’m also talking. Okay, yeah, so, and I mean, I get that. And, you know, what was the other one, energetic or whatever it was, just came out with a battery that they’re saying, you know, has more charge cycles than the Tesla solar wall.
You know, whatever the case is, at the end of the day, you still have a set amount of charge cycles before batteries, etc. Have to be replaced. But overall, talking about large solar farms, I agree. I don’t think it’s just solar, though. I think that it’s a lot of different energy infrastructure projects that could power that. Like, one of the things that we are really starting to lean more into is nuclear energy. You know, they start, they trying to get away from a lot more coal factories. So the actual energy storage, not the energy storage itself, but the infrastructure by which we generate electricity in the first place, I think that that’s one of the, one of the things that we do have to solve.
And I don’t think that solar alone is the, is the answer. Oh, I’m with you, sir. I. Nuclear is, is our savior. And it’s odd that the same people that are, you know, quote unquote pro environment are so anti nuclear, you know, because of minor incidents throughout history that, you know, in this country are very limited compared to other countries. You know, France is a great example. Look at the amount of electricity they produce from nuclear. I’m totally on, on board with that, but I don’t, you know, that’s, that’s red tape and stuff in this country that red or blue, no matter who you ain’t, that you’re fighting a real uphill battle.
Yeah, I don’t think that. I don’t think that electric is the end all, be all. I think that it’s a stopgap. It’s fair enough. I think that it’s a stopgap. I think that it’s a, you know, a future temporary solution for a long term problem. But what do you think about individuals rejecting it at like, the consumer level? I mean, there’s, I mean, look at what Ford completely turned around their EV production other than like, asian producers right now who are amping up. You know, Kia is coming out with a lot, but the US companies are seeing their EV divisions.
They’re reducing them. Customers seem to be rejecting them tons of lots. I mean, I know you just bought a Porsche, right? You see what’s going on. When you want to try to get a gt three, right? They try to sell you three or four. I got a take in too. I got it. I got it. Yeah. But if you go on like you want auto Trader, you see there’s a ton of brand new take ends out there coming straight from the dealership. So it’s, you know, I think from a, from a perspective of an individual consumer level, aside from infrastructure, I think it’s expensive for the consumer.
It’s unreliable outside of a city. If you’re doing any kind of drive, you know, I’m from New York. I’m down in Florida now. So I can tell you the difference from the amount of driving I did in New York. Zero. And the amount of driving I do down here all day, every day. I drive my car every day. Oh, yeah, well, you’re in a city. It’s a lot easier. Charging stations are more readily available. I drive from the suburbs down into the city when I’m not in the city. So, like, for last night, a lot of people that was watching the after hour show, you could tell that I was in my spot out in the suburbs, which is 45, 50 minutes outside of the city.
And then I drive back down into the city, and I drive my take in every day. And you don’t find. Even with the cold, you don’t find a reducing in battery, or you don’t have any issues ever. Most of the time, I can get up to 300 miles on a charge. That’s pretty good. In the wintertime, it probably reduces probably to about 200 and 7260, somewhere in there, between 270 and 260. Okay. Yeah, I mean, it’s definitely not bad. Definitely not bad. And I never go to a gas station. I’ve. I mean, you know, I’m never not a gas station.
I never go to a charging station, Mike. I just set my stuff up overnight, plug it in, and then I keep it moving, so. And I haven’t seen any over three years. It’s been almost three years since I had my take in. I haven’t seen any bag battery degradation as far as it reducing the capacity in the battery itself. So somebody said, I won’t travel in it. What are you talking about? I went all the way to Pittsburgh in a Tesla. I drove the Tesla all the way to Pittsburgh, from Detroit to Pittsburgh and back. So I don’t know what they talk about.
So, I mean, that’s. You see, that’s the thing. And that there’s. There’s a lot of, you know, conflicting information. You seen, there was that congresswoman who did that trip in California who didn’t make her destination, had a stop six, seven times to refuel in a two day trip all the way down California. And I think. I didn’t see that. But, yeah, I feel what you’re saying. Yeah, I mean, and that’s that. But that’s the infrastructure aspect of it. Right. So, I mean, I don’t think that it’s a perfect solution. My argument is that it’s coming regardless of whether we like it or not, it’s coming.
Yeah, I’d like to see. I’d like to see the advancement, like I said, prior to them kind of mandating it or making it more abundant. I’d like to see that. And I think, too, from a. From a level of. From the mechanic perspective, right, like a combustion engine, something goes wrong. I mean, obviously not these modern cars, where everything is a mess under the hood, but something that somebody can generally fix. Like, you know, in anything prior to 2015, you can replace a head gasket in your driveway over the weekend to these electric cars, like your required dealership, and then you’re talking about having maintenance for the Tesla or.
Or the Porsche. Outside of wheels and tires, that’s. That’s great. I mean, but you are talking about 2030 for 2030k for a battery replacement. Some of these people are saying, yeah, I don’t know. I don’t know what that is, but I had zero maintenance. I probably save way more money. The only difference is, to be honest, I paid more in insurance. Okay. But I haven’t. As far as the cost of owning, of having a vehicle itself, it’s been a dream to be honest with you. Fair enough, man. Well, appreciate debating a different point of view. Yes.
All right, my friend. Thank you, bro. You will.
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