The Pro-Life Establishment: The Reason We Still Have Abortion
Summary
➡ The video sheds light on the complex issues within the pro-life establishment, revealing that some powerful entities within this movement stand to lose significant money and influence if abortions are utterly abolished. It focuses particularly on House speaker Mike Johnson and pastor Jeff Durbin, who, despite being seen as pro-life advocates, may have sentiments conflicting with the strict anti-abortion stance.
➡ Opposition is raised towards the seeming hypocrisy of “pro-life” individuals and groups, who despite publicly stating their stance against abortion, do not support bills granting unborn children the same rights as born individuals such as HB 813. Leading figures, notably Speaker Mike Johnson, are alleged to have influenced the decision of other members and organizations, supposedly out of political caution rather than genuine ideological difference.
➡ The text discusses the sanctity of life from a spiritual perspective, citing Psalm 139 and stating every child is fearfully and wonderfully made by God. The author argues against abortion, explaining it as a violation of God’s law and emphasizing the need for repentance and forgiveness. The text also discusses political aspects around abortion, heavily criticizing Donald Trump’s fluctuating stances on abortion law and punishment. They assert that all life decisions, including raising a child, should be made with such ultimate spiritual principles in mind.
➡ The text discusses the controversy sparked by Donald Trump’s comments suggesting that if abortion were to become illegal, women who seek the procedure should face punishment. This drew strong condemnation from both sides of the abortion debate. Meanwhile, Ted Cruz’s qualifications to run for the White House were questioned due to his birth in Canada and the fact that his parents may not meet the ‘natural born citizen’ requirement. The text also suggests that abortion is already illegal when seen as taking human life and criticizes the pro-life movement’s assertion that women who have abortions are victims.
➡ The text discusses a person’s criticism of religious leaders who are perceived to pursue personal interests and use religion to obtain money. It also shares a speech by Desiree Mays, who spoke out against abortion before the Phoenix City Council in 2019. The speaker later expounds their belief that punishment for crime should be local and aligned with religious scripture, not dictated by personal beliefs or societal norms.
➡ The speaker discusses various biblical teachings on matters such as the death penalty, the importance of adhering to God’s laws, the need for repentance of sins, and God’s eternal nature. They highlight how God’s laws work in various societal structures, emphasizing the need for a community-guided justice system, as well as the respect for individual and family jurisdiction in specific instances.
➡ Despite societal pressure, Joseph decides to protect Mary when he knows about her pregnancy, solidifying their bond. His love and understanding are strengthened when he acknowledges that the child is divine. Meanwhile, complex issues are discussed, such as the respect for life, God’s rulings and punishments, and societal blessings being wrongly perceived as divine graces. The host respects the listener’s view and appreciates their regular interaction. The story of Mary, Elizabeth, and the unborn John the Baptist in the womb is recounted, emphasizing the sanctity of life.
➡ This commentary criticizes Roman Catholic doctrines regarding the interpretations of Mary’s role, it emphasizes that prayers should be directed to God and not to Mary or saints, and criticizes politicians who claim religious righteousness but do not act accordingly. The speaker encourages listeners to understand true repentance and faith comes from God, not individual actions, and urges for a return to genuine faith and devotion to God.
➡ The text encourages alleviation of worries to be prepared for necessary tasks, emphasizing on the divine timing of one’s presence, and signs off with a promise to return the next morning at 6 AM.
Transcript
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Because I’m going to tell you after the first day, if I even answer people, and we had somebody being nasty in the live chat yesterday, and then they went down and they were trying to take shots in the comment section, too. And it’s like if you disagree, that’s one thing. If you’re coming in there and you’re taking shots at people and you’re using foul language and stuff like that, just expect you’re going to be removed.
Oh, Tim, don’t you believe in free speech? Oh, yeah, but this isn’t free speech. These are just attacks. They’re not disagreements. They’re not any of this stuff. And then same people. I believe in knowing the enemy and the enemy’s plan. But my goodness, I got to tell you, so many people feed, they feed on the enemy. That’s what gets me. They spend all their time looking at all the enemy’s camps and armies and fights and struck.
We hit that and then we go. It’s kind of like David. We see the giant there. Everybody’s been talking about the giant. They’ve been quaking in their boots, they’ve been shaking, they’ve been hiding, they’ve been timid and everything else. And we go and say, here’s what the giant’s doing. Yeah, okay. Here’s what God says we should do. That’s the solution. And with what I show you today, if you don’t get that, I don’t know how to help you.
If you want to continue to go to the mire, if you want to continue to return to the bomb, it. I don’t know how to help you. So I give what I believe the Lord has given us, and I trust that he knows how to move the hearts of the people that are his. That’s simple as it can if you want the reformed faith, that’s what it is.
It is all of God. All of it, from the preacher to the hearer to the doer, all of it is of God. He’s the one who works in us both to will and to do his good pleasure, and he’s the one who gets the glory for it. So here’s what I want to do. I want to start out with this video that’s recently been put out. And I’m trying to think of think the YouTube channel.
And I want to give them credit. Vision unsealed, I think is the name of the group and they did a little, it’s about a 15 minutes video, but it’s very informative and for all. Listen, stick with me. Just stick with me, okay? If you’re ticked off because of the picture that I used, just stick with me. I’m going to let these guys speak for themselves, okay? I really am.
I’m not going to put words in their mouth. I’m going to let them speak for themselves. But this video shows you exactly some of the stuff that I’ve talked about here. And that is whether it is when I use the term pro life establishment, don’t let that freak you out that I’m necessarily talking about you. I may be okay, but we’re talking about people who have a lot of money and a lot of power to lose.
If abortion is actually abolished, they’ve got a lot of money to use, a lot of money to lose. They got their jobs to lose. Entire nonprofits would go down. And as a result, you need to know that. And this video is largely going to focus on House speaker Mike Johnson before he became speaker. And this comes from respected pastors such as Jeff Durbin. And I’m going to tell you, we tried to get Jeff on.
I’ve got a couple of text messages from him. My understanding is he’s very focused in what he does. And I understand that you can’t be just jumping on every radio show. I get it. I get it. But he’s one who’s doing it, and I know he’s doing it. And how do I know he’s doing it? Because, one, I see him out there doing the stuff, and then I see his people doing it, too.
I’m going to show you one of those people, too. And he’s got a bunch of them. You can find the videos all over. I think it’s apologia studios on YouTube. But he’s a guy, he’s a preacher who preaches, and he does, and so do his people. And praise God for that, that he’s moved in those people there in the Phoenix area to do such things. But Jeff also helps other people throughout the country.
Okay, so this is a video called the untold truth about the pro life establishment. And I’m telling you, some of you have seen this, but I want to play it for the audience. So if you are listening by way of the radio and you want to jump over to Sons of libertymedia. com or beforeitsnews. com, top of the page on both of those, or on rumble, Sons of Liberty Radio live, so you can see it then please do so.
But you’ll be able to hear everything that’s going on. There’s a narration. You’ll hear what all is taking place here. And yeah, it really ought to open the american people’s eyes who call themselves pro life. And I believe there are some pro life people out there who really want the abolition of abortion, but they’ll settle for the regulation and management of the murder of the unborn. And what does the Bible say? Exodus 2013, you shall not murder.
And that’s what abortion is. It’s not a blob of flesh they’re removing from the woman. It is a person made in the image and likeness of God. All right, here is the video. Check this out. Days of rallies and protests. One of the most heated abortion debates in Louisiana ground to a halt. Good evening, everyone. I’m Katie Moore. And I’m Cherise Gibson. Now, thanks for watching us. The debate got heated this evening at the Capitol as lawmakers debated the bill that could charge people for getting an abortion with murder.
But in the end, lawmakers voted to strip away all of the most controversial language from that bill, and then they tabled it without a vote. Surprisingly, you have established pro life organizations and are pro life speaker of the House Mike Johnson to thank for blocking the Louisiana bill that would have identified a baby in the womb as a person, as a pastor. I was trying to warn other pastors and other christians that the pro life establishment didn’t actually believe what the christian church has always believed when it comes to the pre [unk]born in the womb.
I was trying to tell people that they were saying from the very top, the leaders of the pro life industry were saying from the very top that they believed that the mother was a victim. So the pro life movement for the almost 50 years that it’s been in existence has never called for, at least never officially, not as a movement. There might be a couple voices out there have never called for punishing the woman who gets the abortion.
Again, you have pro life leaders, legislators, and even pastors, as we will see later in this video, to thank for more babies in the womb not seeing the light of day in Louisiana, House Bill 813 was not seen as palatable or even constitutional by politicians on both sides of the aisle. They came to an agreement tonight, but not without fierce debate on the House floor. Representative Danny McCormick’s highly controversial antiabortion bill was gutted by fellow Republicans Thursday.
Did you hear that? It was not the Democrats but the Republicans who stopped the equal protection bill. Representative Alan Siebaugh led the charge with an impassioned speech on the House floor that called House Bill 813 problematic and unconstitutional. Pro life and pro choice protesters gathered in the rotunda before the vote, including groups from Oklahoma, Texas and Arizona. Jeff Durbin is from Phoenix, Arizona. We were able to get bills into Arizona, Texas, South Carolina, Colorado, Pennsylvania and also Louisiana.
He disagrees with pro life groups in Louisiana who condemned the original bill and applauded the amendment. Some House Republicans call it the death of a bad bill. Keep these two gentlemen in mind as you watch this video, because they have stepped into uncharted territory that only a few have dared to step into with one goal in mind, to save the most vulnerable human beings, babies in the womb, from those who seek lives.
The prolife establishment has been thwarting actively stopping the bills of the abolition of abortion consistently and across the board. Many christians don’t understand that we had a historic moment in the state of Louisiana, a bill of equal protection that went into the state of Louisiana to protect all human life from the moment of fertilization equally. It’s a very simple bill. This bill actually made it to the hearing.
This bill passed the hearing overwhelmingly. The House Criminal Justice Committee approved McCormick’s bill seven to two last Wednesday. Thank you, committee. It now heads to the House for Thursday for debate. If the bill passes, the House Thursday will go to the Senate for a vote and then to Governor John Bell Edwards desk. He historically takes a pro life stance, but he has not said whether he would veto this bill or not.
The week before the actual vote, we had the legislators in Louisiana looking at the bill saying, well, we’re pro life. This is the most pro life bill we’ve ever seen. It’s consistent. Of course we’ll pass it. And then that week, the establishment came in. Multiple prominent pro life groups have come out against the bill, including Louisiana right to life. When a pro life organization says that a woman is a victim, it eliminates the need for repentance for what they did to their unborn child.
It is disturbing that pro life organizations are the ones opposing bills that would have protected babies in the womb. I started writing bills for my state and then other states around the country and seeing these bills submitted by legislators, and guess who’s the chief proponents coming out and attacking these bills. It’s been the pro life movement that’s been coming out and killing these bills. All these bills do is say, hey, that same law.
Yeah. That applies to people before they’re born. Thank you, madam chair and members of the committee, I’m Reverend Jeff Durbin. I’m the head of end abortion. Now, this particular bill is just a bill of equal protection. That’s it. It says something that’s unassailable. What’s in the womb, of course, we believe, is in the image of God. What’s in the womb incontrovertibly is a unique, distinct human being. We’ve been here in history before, members only.
It was a different kind of human. We used to say, I know it looks like a person. It’s not a person. It’s a black man. We drew a circle around ourselves and said, it’s human, technically, but we can kill them. We can abuse them. They did it also in Germany. They said, I know it looks like a human. It’s not a human. It’s a jew. We all look back at those atrocities and that evil and tyranny, and we say, it’s wicked.
It’s happening. In our day, what this bill says is unassailable. What’s in the womb is human. From the moment of fertilization, I call you to establish justice. I call you to do your duty before God. I call you to repent, turn to Christ, establish justice, do what’s right before God. There’s a day of judgment in history ahead of us. I want to thank you so much for your testimony.
Missouri, where we got a committee hearing there, and then there were only two spots to testify against the bill. And guess who it was? It was the pro life lobby. Thank you, madam Chair. Members of the committee, for the record, listen to these. Representing Missouri right to life. I’m going on record in opposition to the prosecution of women. And the number one, that’s an hypocrite right there. That lady is.
Has come from these very groups that we saw here today. And so, yeah, they’ve exposed, I think, themselves for what they really believe and who they really are. Members of this guy right here with campaign life, Missouri, to testify in opposition to Senate Bill 356. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. This is not. Pastor Jeff, I just want to pause this a second when I’m saying that because I hate interrupting, like, while it’s going on.
I know some people, I like to let them say, but these are hypocrites. This right to life, Missouri, Louisiana, all this other. These people, I’m telling you, they want to keep their nonprofit because that’s where their money is. That’s where their livelihood is, is in this quote unquote, fight. But as you can see, it’s like the Harlem Globetrotters. See, wwe doesn’t just happen in DC. It’s happening all around you.
And a lot of it happens in these nonprofits. And these people come out. I’m against prosecuting a woman who paid a hitman to kill her baby, but they would be just fine if the woman was paying a hitman to kill her husband and she was prosecuted, they’d be just fine with that. And I’m going to give you some examples of that once this is done. But this is showing you, and it’s going to show you even more.
House Speaker Mike Johnson, this pro life Christian, he’s a hypocrite. He is a hypocrite. I don’t know how you can do what he did here. It’s devilish. It’s just devilish. And the man’s in need of serious repentance. He really is, for Brian, accusing pro life organizations. But you have heard these people publicly oppose bills that would designate babies in the womb as humans, which is how God sees them.
We read the entire HB 813 bill, and it is straightforward. Unborn persons will be granted the same rights as born persons. I honestly thought that Mike would be one of the few elected officials who would support a bill of equal protection. I anticipated that he would be on our side, so I was really shocked when he was not. In fact, the reason that Alan Sieball had such a dramatic change in his position inside of a week when he’s shouting, absolutely.
Voting in favor of HB 813. Representative Siebaw, absolutely, yes. And then a week later on the House floor, leading the charge to kill the bill and apologizing to all the legislators for helping advance this bill. House Bill 813 has a number of problems. And guess what? We already have laws which are going to go into effect when Roe versus Wade is overturned. So we don’t need this bill.
I had had a private conversation with Alan Siebaugh, and he told me that the reason that he had changed his position and was now going to kill the bill was because Mike Johnson called him and told him to kill the bill. You hear that? It was a bad bill. It was Mike Johnson’s idea to gut the bill with the Siebhaw amendment. It was Alan who helped us get the bill to the House floor vote.
And then at Mike Johnson’s urging, Alan killed the very bill that he had fought with us. Alan had one by integrity either. Supporters of our bill were telling me that they couldn’t support it any longer because Mike Johnson had contacted them and told them not to support HB 813 any longer. Mike Johnson. To hear that Speaker Mike Johnson not only opposed the bill, but influenced legislators to scrap it is a real punch to the gut.
As the saying goes. Call a spade a spade. What he did was sinful, and christians must not rationalize or make excuses for him. Yes, we should pray for our elected leaders because they are not perfect. But equally important, we must hold them accountable. I remember the first phone call I got was from Dr. Will hall, who leads the office of Public Policy for the Louisiana Baptist Convention, of which my church is a part of.
Dr. Hall had testified in committee in favor of HBA 13. I remember that. Mr. Chairman, members, I’m Dr. Will hall. I’m the director for the Office of Public Policy with Louis Baptist Convention. I would say this, that indeed, Louisiana Baptists are pro life from the womb through eternity. And so we would urge you to protect the innocent in the womb and pass HB 813. Thank you very much.
He said, this is what we believe is Louisiana Baptist. This is what scripture requires, equal protection for children in the womb. Will called me and he said, I can’t support the bill any longer. He told me that Mike told him not to support the bill. A double minded man is unstable in all of his ways. And with that, the support of the Louisiana Baptist Convention and its 1600 churches evaporated.
And then I began getting text messages and phone calls from members of the Louisiana House of Representatives who would be voting on this bill. And they told me, I can’t support the bill anymore. Why? Some of them had personally sponsored the bill. I remember the Louisiana Conservative caucus in the House of Representatives. It was over 40 members who personally signed their name saying that they were going to support HB 813.
And now they’re contacting me saying I can’t vote for the bill. Mike Johnson told me not to. And one after one, I watched an overwhelming majority of members of the Louisiana legislature who were going to pass HB 813 and make it law tell me they couldn’t do it because Congressman Mike Johnson told them not to. When Mike Johnson was elected speaker of the House, we made a video celebrating a fellow christian and pro lifer occupying such an important position.
But it is disappointing to learn that he opposed a pro life bill mainly for political reasons. Truthfully, this is why many people don’t trust politicians. He says that he’s pro life. He says that he believes publicly. He says that he believes that life begins at fertilization, that all human life should be protected. He says that’s what he believes when he’s speaking to the television cameras, when he’s speaking to pro life voters, when he’s speaking to donors.
Obviously, I don’t need to cite volumes of medical journals to prove the fact that an unborn child is a human being. From the earliest stages of development, the unborn are distinct living and whole human beings. They are nonetheless equal because they share a common human nature. Humans have value simply because they are human. And if you deny this, it’s difficult to say why objective human rights should apply to anyone.
But the truth is he fought to kill a bill that would do just that. Sadly, many prolife politicians are willing to support prolife bills, provided those bills won’t harm their political interests. Mike Johnson and high ranking prolife leaders pressured the Louisiana lawmakers to oppose HB 813 bill, not because they disagreed with it, but because the bill could cost them politically. And Mike Johnson told me he agrees with equal protection, he said.
Of course preborn children need equal protection, but we can’t do it because if we pass a bill that totally bans abortion by giving children equal rights in the womb, then republicans would lose elections, we would lose seats in U. S. Congress, we would lose seats in the state legislature. And he said, it’s just too costly politically. We can’t totally ban abortion. We can’t abolish abortion because it’ll cost us political power.
Who are these two gentlemen? Jeff Durbin and Brian Gunter are well respected gospel preachers with a good track record of fighting to protect unborn babies. Jeff Durbin is the lead pastor of Apologia Church and the co host of Apologia Radio and Apologia TV. In addition, Jeff runs a non profit organization whose mission is to work with local churches and state legislation to protect pre [unk]born babies. We learned about Jeff’s work earlier this year through our YouTube community vision unsealed financially supported their work because we believe that life is precious in the sight of the Lord, including the lives of unborn babies.
Brian Gunter is the pastor of First Baptist Church in Livingston, Louisiana. Like Jeff Durbin, pastor Brian Gunter has fought and continues to fight for babies who can’t fight for themselves. Brian Gunter, pastor and messenger from First Baptist Church in Livingston, Louisiana as I discussed with Tom, the chair of the resolutions committee, I would like to offer my resolution on equal protection for preborn children. For a Christian to say that an unborn child should not be protected just like any other human being, is willfully ignorant, plainly evil or not a Christian.
In Jeremiah one, verse five, God sanctified and ordained Jeremiah to be a prophet while he was still in the womb. God identified Jeremiah as a person even before he was born. Listen to how the word of God describes a baby in the womb in psalm 139 for you formed my inward parts you covered me in my mother’s womb. I will praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
Marvelous are your works. Psalm 139 verses 13 to 14 regardless of the circumstances leading to the pregnancy, every child in the womb is fearfully and wonderfully made by God. The lives of all babies are beautiful in the sight of the Lord, and no one, including the mother, has the right to take any life, and anyone who does will give an account to God on the day of judgment.
Lastly, to any mother who has gone through the experience of ending a pregnancy, please know that Jesus will forgive and cleanse you from all unrighteousness if you repent. Amen. Just like the woman caught in the act of adultery in John eight, Jesus neither condemned her nor condoned her sin, but he told her to go and sin no more. Don’t live with the guilt of your sin. For the full video, head over to the apologyist studios channel.
Please support the work they do to save the lives of babies. Okay. All right. And this is vision unsealed. If you want to find them on YouTube, you’re more than welcome to follow them. I’ll have this video in the archive. But you see what’s going on now, this is not news to me, but I’ll tell you what, I’ll tell you what was news to me was that the pro life movement supported this kind of stuff.
Oh, gosh. I didn’t find it out until Donald Trump was running for president. Okay, I’m going to take you back in time just a little bit. Just a few years back. I don’t know if this was 2015 or 16, but he was doing an interview with MSNBC. Some of you may remember this. And he was asked whether the woman in the abortion procedure should be punished along with the doctor.
And his answer was off the cuff. Yes. And I was like, I was shocked. I was shocked. I really was. But within 24 hours, probably about twelve, he completely changed his position. Again, a double minded man is unstable in all his ways. And you can rest assured that Donald Trump is a double minded man. He might be even a quadruple or five, maybe that’s what people refer to with 5d chess, that he just doesn’t know what he’s really doing.
I mean, let me ask you people out there who have supported him. He said he’s going to have a huge wall, that Mexico is going to pay for it. It’s going to be made with concrete. And rebar does most of that wall that you see the illegal aliens coming through, is that concrete? Is that concrete and rebar? Or is that just big pieces of steel that are rusting with doors in the middle of them? Yeah.
This is Donald Trump before he was elected president on MSNBC. And this is where I discovered, and I’m going to tell you how I discovered that many in the pro life movement, at least those who have a voice to speak out. And it’s not all. I’m not trying to paint with a broad brush, okay? I know there are people in the pro life movement who want abolition. I know that.
I know that for a fact. But here’s Trump before he was put into the White House. And I want you to listen to what he says. I’m letting him say it himself. Okay. And then we’ll transition over to where he’s at now. Okay, listen. Thank you. Interesting. What should the law be on abortion? Well, I have been pro life. I know what should the law. I know your principal.
That’s a good value. But what should be the law? This presidential election is going to be very important, because when you say, what’s the law? Nobody knows what the law is going to be. It depends on who gets elected, because someone’s going to appoint conservative judges. Okay. All right. I didn’t realize this part here was in here, but I liked what he had to say when he got down to the thing.
We know what the law is. Exodus 2013. You shall not murder. That’s the law. I don’t care who’s in the office. I don’t care who writes whatever they write. The creator made the law. It’s the natural law. It’s the written law. They go hand in hand and I don’t care who writes. It’s like the second amendment. I don’t care who writes a law. It is unlawful. It’s pretended law.
It’s what our forefathers called pretended law. Pretended legislation for pretended crimes. They wrote it in the Declaration of Independence. Go and read that. That’s what they were charging King George with. And now here we are. We got a bunch of King Georges, like the patriot guy from the movie. He says, now we don’t have one tyrant 3000 miles away. We’ve got 3000 of them, or I should say about 500 in DC determining it, along with the other hundreds who are in our state capitals, who won’t take a stand and be men and let their yes be yes and their no no.
This is Donald Trump. Someone’s going to point liberal judges depending on who wins. I’ve never understood the pro life position. Well, I never understood, because I understand the principle. It’s human life as people see it. What crime is it? Well, it’s human life. No. Should the woman be punished for having abortion? Look, I would say that it’s a very serious problem, and it’s a problem that we have to decide on.
It’s very hard. Wait, are you going to say put them in jail? No. What? I’m asking you because you say you want to ban it. What does that mean? I am against. I am pro life. Yes. How do you ban abortion? How do you actually do it? Well, you’ll go back to a position like they had, where people will perhaps go to illegal places, but you have to ban it.
Do you believe in punishment for abortion? Yes or no? As a principle? The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment for the woman. Yeah, there has to be some form. Ten cents, ten years. That I don’t know. Why not? You take positions and everything else? I frankly, I do take positions and everything else. It’s a very complicated position you’re running for. I’m asking you, what should a woman face if she chooses to have an abortion? Why not? You said you’re pro life.
I am pro life. That means banning abortion and so is the Catholic Church pro life. All right, so. So you get it. Whoops. I didn’t mean to click that on again. You get it. At least right there, there’s some things, he’s obviously confused. He’s trying to put the thing out, but right there he was right on again. If a woman hires a hitman to off her husband, who’s responsible for that? Who’s going to be standing before the judge, the woman and the hitman? Right now the hitman’s probably going to face more because he’s the guy who actually more punishment.
And it’s not really even justice. I mean, they’re going to throw him in jail. Very seldom do you find the death penalty given out and that know, Chris Matthews is asking actually a good, actually, he says, oh, this is a good principle. Well, then, Chris, why don’t you sign on to it? But he doesn’t. He’s for pro choice to murder your baby. That’s what the real pro choice slogan should be.
You’ve got to finish it out so that you understand what the choice is. The choice is to murder your baby or not. Now, look, everybody has that choice before them. Everybody who has a child has that. The question is, are you going to murder your baby? Are you going to love that baby? And then the other question is, are you going to raise it in the fear and admonition of the Lord? Are you going to grow it in the world system? What are you going to do? So Donald Trump says the right thing here, okay? He says exactly the right thing as far as, yes, the woman should face some kind of punishment the very next day, the next day after this got out and it caused all this brouhaha, which is really good, don’t get me wrong, the brouhaha is good.
I’ve been in this, I don’t want to say industry. I’ve been working in this thing of media and information and stuff for more than a decade now. I believe exactly that little slogan. All publicity is good. Publicity and what Donald Trump should have done if he actually believed this, which I don’t believe he does. I believe he’s confused individual. I believe he will turn whatever color he’s got to turn to blend in and to get the votes and to get the power and to get the money.
I honestly do. I really do. And I’m not trying to attack him. I’m just saying I see him for what he is. He’s been like this for years. The very next day, this was the news. Critics from all sides are condemning Donald Trump this morning for saying that he would punish women for having abortions if they ever become illegal. The republican frontrunner quickly pulled back those comments, but the damage was already done.
Democrats, Republicans, and even anti abortion groups were quick to denounce Donald Trump. Major Garrett is in Chicago with the latest comments to spark controversy about the Trump campaign. Major, some people say, here we go again. Good morning. Good morning. On plenty of issues, Donald Trump has defined himself by what he has said and how he has said it. But beyond the controversy and the flamboyance, a couple of questions have persisted.
What does Trump really know? What does he actually believe? Well, all of this came together yesterday when Trump did something almost without precedent, angering those who support and oppose abortion rights at exactly the same time. The latest demonstration of how little Donald has thought about, okay, I’m stopping for people who are on the radio. This is Ted Cruz talking. And Ted Cruz is another one. He’s a compromised man and he’s a compromiser.
Now, look, I am fine with compromise. That doesn’t deal with morality. For instance, Congress is afforded certain things they can write legislation on to help the states deal with one another. Okay, they’re not there to write, quote, unquote, things that the state deal with. They’re very limited in their scope. We’ve been through that before, article one. And so if they determine, hey, this guy wants to spend a million dollars on something that’s constitutional, this guy wants to spend $500,000 on it, and they compromise.
And they say, we’ll do 750. But it’s on something that’s constitutional, that’s fine. That’s a fine compromise. Okay. As long as it gets the job done that they’re given to do. But when you’re dealing with a moral issue, there can be no compromise here. It’s not like you’ve got a middle space you can go of saying, well, we’re going to sort of, I don’t even know how you compromise on this.
This is so clear and so plain. I don’t know how you compromise, but this is Ted Cruz in this part of the news report here, and I need the serious issues facing this country. Of course women shouldn’t be punished. Here’s another guy. What is this guy that he didn’t say it or he was misquoted or whatever. Ted Cruz and John Kasich both criticized Donald Trump for saying women seeking abortions should be punished if the procedure was made illegal.
The answer is that there has to be some form of punishment for the woman. Yeah, there has to be some form. Ten cents. Ten years. That I don’t know. During a heated televised exchange on MSNBC, Trump appeared uncomfortable discussing abortion and fumbled over questions about its criminalization. I am against. I am pro life. Yes. How do you ban abortion? How do you actually do you know, you’ll go back to a position like they had, where people will perhaps go to illegal places, but you have to ban it.
Groups opposed to abortion rights immediately denounced Trump, saying, we have never advocated in any context for the punishment of women, and calling the comments completely out of touch with the pro life movement. Within hours, Trump’s campaign reversed course, issuing a statement that the doctor would be held legally responsible, not the woman, and insisting Trump’s position has not changed. Oh, it hasn’t banned partial birth abortion. I am pro choice in every respect.
But Trump’s former stance in favor of abortion rights has been something Cruz and allies have been trying to highlight unsuccessfully until now. Cruz is leading Trump by ten points ahead of next Tuesday’s Wisconsin primary. But among women, the gap grows even larger. Okay, so I’m going to stop right there. This is during the thing. Ted Cruz isn’t qualified to run for the White House. The guy is not a natural born citizen.
He was born in Canada. He had to be naturalized. Now, if you don’t understand that, maybe we’re going to do a show because I’m looking into this Ramas Swami, or whatever his name is. I have some questions about whether he’s eligible for the office, too, just as much as Kamala Harris, Barack Hussein Obama, Satora Sabarka, Mitt Romney. The list goes on of people who don’t meet the qualification for natural born citizen, and Ted Cruz doesn’t meet that.
He became a citizen, if he even became one. I haven’t even seen his records that his Mother and father would have had to have filled out so that he would become a citizen. Because here’s the difference. You are a natural born citizen if you’re born of natural citizen parents, okay? That’s the issue, plain and simple. You say, where did you get that from? Vitel’s law of nations. The framers of the constitution had three copies of it.
We know that from Ben Franklin that they were given that that was a part of there. And Vitel was the only guy who defined what a natural born citizen was. So when we had the video of Trey Gowdy down here in South Carolina, my friend Evan Mulch was confronting him over natural born citizen. Trey goes, we don’t know how they define natural born citizen. Of course we do.
It’s right there in black and white. Vitels of law of nations. I’ve quoted it before where he says both parents need to be citizens. And frankly, I don’t even think it mattered where the child was born as long as specifically the father. But both parents were citizens. But it really rested on the father. And yet he’s in here doing what he’s doing. Ted Cruz is compromised, too. Don’t think he isn’t.
And you know, John Kasich is. You know, that guy is. My goodness, all of these guys fall under this. The day after Donald Trump said what he said there, I got a submission@sonsonsoflibertymedia. com. By a guy who runs a family center, something, I don’t even know what the name of it is, blasting Donald Trump for saying the woman should be punished. And this guy wrote infinitum about how the woman was the victim.
This guy’s in need of repentance, too. He’s in need of repentance as well. And I wrote him back and I said, you have got to be kidding me. This is the first time I heard this. This is the first time I ever heard this in all of my days. I thought pro life people wanted abortion ended. And look, we don’t need a bill banning it. It’s already illegal.
When you bring in the issue of murder, that’s the taking of human life, the life of man. That’s already law. The only difference we’re talking about is age and it happening inside a woman’s body or outside the woman’s body, but it’s still the taking of life. This guy wrote to say the woman is the victim in all of this. No friends. The woman is the instigator in all of it.
Now, look, the woman may have all kinds of things going on, a lot of pressures. Family is going to ostracize her for certain things. I get that. But nevertheless, she has a choice that she makes, and she’s responsible for that choice. And the church is going to have to step up and they’re going to have to start saying, you know what? We’re going to have to learn to be uncomfortable with some things, and we’re going to have to go to these women and we’re going to have to start helping them see their pregnancies through adopting their children, loving them.
See, we talked about this in Michigan. Love and demonstration. Not in saying, I love you, sister, but in a demonstration, being willing to be uncomfortable, mess up the schematics of our home or whatever it is, to care for some of these, to show real love. And I know there’s a lot of christian families out there, husbands and wives, that for whatever reason, the Lord, the womb is barren.
And they want to love children and they want children for themselves. And they can’t seem to get them start going down to the abortion clinics, start talking with some of these ladies that are coming in there. Many of them are distraught. Some of them are just willful and obstinate, and they’re just going to go do it no matter what. But you have the chance to go in and to plant the seeds that God may use in bringing about their repentance and even saving that life.
You have the opportunity. See, the power is in the people if they’ll submit themselves unto God. It really is. And God uses those means of the people that he has made to accomplish his purposes. He’s done that. But this guy wrote me and I wrote him back and I said, you have got to be kidding me. You’ve got to be kidding me. The woman is a victim. And I told him, I said, you need to repent, man.
I’m not posting this trash. This is against everything that you say you’re for out of the scriptures. It’s completely against it. And I don’t think that guy can. I haven’t seen a contribution from. Well, he’s the same guy who wrote a big long paper about men with long hair, as in the length of their hair. And I shake my head at goofiness like that. It’s just goofy. It’s like that preacher I played on here.
It says beards are somehow worldly. What in the world? Did you not read the scriptures? Jesus had a beard and they were plucking it out. These people don’t speak for God. They speak for themselves. They speak so they can get money and so they can keep doing their thing. That’s what they’re doing. My goodness. This is a lady. Her name is Desiree Mays. This was back in 2019.
She’s affiliated there with Jeff Durbin’s church. And this is what I’m talking about. This is one of many people I could pull, but this was one of the articles that we had done. And this is her speaking before the Phoenix City council in 2019 on the issue of abortion. And this is what I’m talking about. About what you see, Jeff just doesn’t go and show up on a video or podcast.
We’ve had videos of him being out on the street confronting the tyrants, the tyranical police who say, you’re too loud, you got a bullhorn. He goes, come back with a decibel. Know. I respect your authority of where God has put you, but unless you got a decibel meter, get to step in before you start tripping. And you’ll love the way he does it, because he doesn’t do it in a condescending thing.
It’s just, as a matter of fact, here’s the things. This is one of his congregants, Desiree Mays. And I want you to listen. See, if you lead by example, the people will follow. Take a listen to this. Good afternoon, honorable representatives. My name is Desiree Mays. I’m a follower of Jesus Christ, a local resident, a wife, a mother, and a member of apologetic church. I come here today with the blessing of my pastors and the support of my husband and family.
This week, our country celebrated Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. And as you know, Dr. King had a dream, a dream that our nation would recognize that all people were created equal. Well, that dream is dead for nearly 60 million people. Since Roe v. Wade, nearly 60 million babies have been murdered. So that means every day for the past 46 years, children have been executed in our country, in our neighborhoods, all in broad daylight.
This type of oppression is difficult to even wrap our minds around. You may have bought into the pro choice mantra. Her body. Her choice. Well, that ignorant, unscientific argument has been debunked for decades. So I’m here today not to talk about her body, but I’m here to talk about the body inside of her body. The body that has his or her own separate and unique dna, fingerprints, mind and soul.
Through modern ultrasound technologies and through medical advancement, everybody knows the baby in the womb is an actual living person. At conception. Science tells us this, and more importantly, God tells us this through his word. God also tells us that every single child is a gift to his or her parents. Regardless of the circumstances surrounding your conception, whether you were planned or unplanned by your parents, whether you were wanted or unwanted, whether you were born into poverty or wealth, whether you were born healthy or with special needs, whatever the circumstances were, each of you were a gift to your parents, as is every single child in the womb of their mother.
Every single one of these lives, like yours, is precious and deserves the same protection as any other person made in the image of God as a mother. I began to think that sometime in the not so distant future, while looking back at this grim era in history, our children and grandchildren might ask us, what were you doing? Where was everybody? So I come here today to plead with you to use your power to do something.
God has sovereignly placed each of you in the positions that you’re in, and now is the time to do your duty and stand up for what is right. Arizona already has a current law on the books that criminalizes abortion. Why are we not enforcing this? Ignore Roe and uphold az statute 1336 three. Don’t be ruthless tyrants like New York. Be courageous and help Arizona to be the first in this country to be on the right side of history by protecting the most defenseless among us.
I know I speak for a whole army of other christians when I say this needs to end now. We will not stop fighting and bothering you all until this monstrous, barbaric practice of legalized abortion ends. And we are teaching our children to do the same. Thank you. All right. Okay. So again, this guy is leading by example. These are his people who are up. And it’s not just hers.
There’s tons of these that you can see where they go before the city council. They’re going in among the, if you want to call them, elders of the city there, who are supposed to judge on these things, and they’re supposed to rule in these things and they’re supposed to uphold the law. And I see some comments. It’s my right to believe that God is against the death penalty or somebody’s against the death penalty.
Listen, friend, who gave the law for the death penalty? Let me ask you, because we’re going to go through it. We’re going to get to the scriptures. We’re right on that. Now, who gave that law? The same Lord Jesus, who gave the old covenant, the abrahamic covenant, the Adamic Covenant, the noaic covenant, the Davidic Covenant, and the new covenant is the same one who gave the death penalty as punishment.
You can’t determine any other punishment except and do it justly except through the law of God. I would ask our friend if you believe that there’s no death penalty, you shouldn’t engage in the death penalty. Then I ask you what punishment should be given and I’ll guarantee you you’ll go to the whims of your own mind. Just like Thomas Jefferson on the sodomy issue, he wanted to cut off their genitals.
How does that stop their passions? It doesn’t. It doesn’t. And yes, it’s hard, and yes, it’s serious, and yes, it’s final. That’s why you better know that that person is guilty of what they did. And that’s why I don’t want it happen at the state level. I don’t want to happen to the federal, I want it in the community. Because the people who know that person best are going to do everything they can to try to find that person innocent.
And when all the evidence is out and it confirms their guilt, they’re going to have nothing to do but to say you’re guilty and you’re going to face the punishment that God demands. Now, while we can’t get in people’s heads and we can’t be thought police and all this other, we are to call them back to what the word of God holds forth. And it holds forth that when you take a life, you’re forfeiting your own when you do it in a manner that’s murder.
Okay? And we’re going to hit that in just a little bit. We got about 30 seconds here. So if you guys want to pick up, I’m going to cover some of these, a couple of scriptures here on this issue, and I’m going to show you this is what God says. I didn’t say it. I don’t have a right to think differently than what God, in fact, my right is to conform to the word of God.
That’s my right. If you want to say it that way. My right is not to depart from God’s word. It is to conform to it, and so is yours. It is a command. It is not an option. And so I want to look at some of those things. We’re going to look at a few passages that I pulled up here. So if you want to catch it, sonsolibertymedia.
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Trusts and all that other stuff. Hang on. Welcome, everybody. Coming over from the radio, Mike Bambas is going to be coming on. We talked about us national. We made mention of trusts and things, if you are interested in that. And I’ve got some of the paperwork from Mike because I waited. There was some things after we had Roger sales on. And I just said, yeah, there’s something right there.
Just little missing pieces for me that I didn’t go through with. And then when I met Mike in Michigan, I said, dude, we got to have you on. In fact, I’d love to have him on, like just for an entire week, just to have him on. Let everybody call in if they had questions. By the way, the numbers available on the screen here, 803-619-9855 please do not call me when we’re not live.
Please don’t call me when we’re not live. I got people calling at 1112 102:00 in the morning on that line. Don’t call me then. Call me only when we’re live. If we’re not live, please don’t call this number. I don’t know why. I don’t understand it. Anyway, let’s look at a couple things. And by the way, Jesus reaffirmed the death penalty. He did. He didn’t do away with it.
He told the Pharisees, he says, if you got a guy who is dishonouring his parents, he is worthy of death. Paul in romans one, he lists all these people engaged in all these different kinds of sins. He says they’re worthy of death. And so are those who take pleasure in them, that do them. So the death penalty hasn’t been done away with. Man just doesn’t want to go there.
Why? Because that is the number one fear that man has, is death. Don’t punish us. Don’t dare punish us in the manner that God has said to punish us when we violate his law. Proverbs, chapter six. Here’s what we see. These six things doth the Lord hate, yea, seven are an abomination unto him. Now, that’s a pretty big word, an abomination. They’re disgusting. A proud look, a lying tongue and hands that shed innocent blood and heart that deviseth wicked imaginations.
Feet that be swift and running to mischief. A false witness that speaketh lies. And he that Soweth discord among the brethren. Some of you guys who appear in the chat sometimes, some of you. Keep that in mind. Keep that in mind. And then he says, this, my son, keep thy father’s commandment and forsake not the law of thy mother. Bind them continually upon thine heart and tie them about thy neck.
When thou goest, it shall lead thee. When thou sleepest, it shall keep thee. And when thou awakest, it shall talk with thee. For the commandment, not the options, not your imaginations. The commandment of the Lord, that’s what he’s talking about, is a lamp, and the law is a light. It is not something to be done away. And I hear people say, well, we’re under grace, not law. That’s true.
If you’re in Christ, that’s absolutely true. Nevertheless, Paul says, do we get rid of the law? No, we esteem the law. We hold it up. Why? Because the law is what brings men to Christ. Good grief. I don’t know how people cannot understand what the scripture is saying there. It’s so clear. It’s so clear. And reproofs of instruction are the way of life. We are in the mess we’re in in America, and if you’re in another country and you’re in a mess, too, we’re in the mess because we don’t listen to this.
We don’t listen to the commands of God. We don’t listen to the true whole gospel message which puts forth the law that condemns the sinner and then gives them the good news of the gospel that saves them from their sin. And their sin is transgression of the law. And if you don’t preach the law, you can never preach about sin, and you can never preach about a savior from sin.
You can’t do it. They go hand in hand. And what does Paul tell us in Timothy, again, the New Testament, he said, the law is, if it’s used lawfully, it’s a good thing, and it’s for. And he lists out all the things, fornicators, thieves, liars, sodomites, whatever the case may be, murderers. That’s what the law is for. It’s to distinguish when they’ve crossed the line so that they receive the punishment due to them.
Do you understand? It’s pretty simple. And that’s in the New Testament. That’s not Old Testament. That’s New Testament because God has not changed. God’s not changed. And you know what? Neither have men. I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. Men just find new ways to commit the same old sins, and God still brings about his punishments the same way. He’s always brought them about again. I said it in Michigan.
If you listen the morning show, you listen afternoon show. If you want to see how God operates in the nation, read Leviticus 26, deuteronomy 28. He does that. You can see it in every nation on the face of the earth throughout history, how he judges them. God has not changed, and neither have men. We go back to Genesis, chapter nine. You guys know after the flood what happens.
Well, let’s see. And God bless Noah and his sons and said unto them, be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth, and the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth and upon all the fishes of the sea, into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you.
Even as the green herb have I given you. All things but flesh, and the life thereof, which is the blood thereof shall ye not eat. And surely your blood of your lives will I require. Listen to what he says. The blood of your lives will I require. At the hand of every beast will I require it. So if an animal takes your life, God’s going to deal with that animal.
And at the hand of man, the man takes your life, God’s going to deal with it. And how does he deal with it? Is he just zapping people dead? No, that’s not what he says. And at the hand of every man’s brother will I require the life of man and listen to what he says? Here’s how he deals with it. He deals with it with means. Whoso shedth man’s blood, that’s the murderer.
By man, not by God. By man shall his blood be shed. For in the image of God made Eman. This is the whole command here. And what’s God’s command? Is it to shed innocent blood? No. You, verse seven. Be fruitful and multiply. Bring forth abundantly in the earth and multiply therein. God’s desire is that we be fruitful and multiply. We don’t want that. No. Give us our 1.
25,789 kids. We got it under control. We’ll control it. God. We know what we’re doing here, right? The foolishness of man. We are. We’re prone to just be the most foolish creatures in existence, and yet God says this is how it’s supposed to be. Now I get it. Again. Let me clarify. I get it. There are wicked men who use the system. The quote unquote justice system, to put down those who would dare dissent, those who would be politically against them.
This is why I say you do it in a community. And even when you do it in the community, that thing has to be guarded because of the wickedness of man. Look, men are wicked at the local level, too. You guys see it. But if you’re going to carry this out, it’s going to be carried out in the public. Go read deuteronomy. When they stone people, it was the community that had to do it.
And again, I’ve had people say, you just have a bloodlust. No, I wish people would repent. If you think I want to throw rocks at people, you are outside your mind. If you think I want to bring my children into that, you are outside your mind. You really are. That is not something that a godly person wants to do. They don’t want to do it. But if that’s the duty that God has required of us, we’ll do it.
We’re the ones to bring justice. We are God’s hands. We’re his body. This is not hard to understand. It really is. And again, I would just assume, see, people repent rather than engage in that which is going to, they’re going to forfeit their life. Exodus chapter 21. We also read about the unborn child, verse 21 notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two. Excuse me, I’m sorry. Let’s go down to verse 22, because that’s dealing with the man and his maid.
If men strive and hurt a woman with child so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow, he shall be surely punished. Listen. By the state. Is that the understanding? No, that’s not what it is. He shall surely be punished according to the as the woman’s husband will lay upon him. Why? Because the jurisdiction is the home. And some people don’t understand this. There are several passages about the jurisdictions.
For instance, let me give you a couple of examples. One is, if a man finds that his daughter has played the whore in Israel, right, that’s his jurisdiction. Now, the Bible says that he takes her to the elders. The elders will determine whether or not she is. And if she is guilty of that, they take her to the doorstep of her father’s home, and they stone her with stones.
But the jurisdiction is the father’s. So if the father wants to confront his daughter and he finds out she isn’t, then he lets it go. If he finds out she is and she’s repentant, he can forego making it a criminal. Matter to take before the elders. That’s his jurisdiction to do. It’s not the states. Okay, how do I know that? Well, we see in the New Testament that Joseph finds out Mary is pregnant with child, right now, what’s any man going to think? You’ve been running around on another because I haven’t been with you.
We haven’t consummated our marriage yet. And so what happens? Well, we find that Joseph loved Mary and he didn’t want to make a public spectacle of her. That’s what the scripture says. And so he decided to put her away quietly. He wasn’t trying to embarrass her more than whatever was going on or what people would perceive. He loved her. And that love was demonstrated in the action he took towards her.
And then the angel came and says, what’s in her is from the Holy Spirit. And Joseph’s like, okay, I get it. And you know what? Most of us don’t even think about this. The humiliation. I don’t want to say Joseph thought he was humiliated. He knew what the truth was. But in that culture, you can just sort of sense that people would have scowled at them. In fact, the Pharisees said, we’re not born of fornication.
They told Jesus that as implying that he was a bastard child. No, he’s the son of God. God created a body for his son to dwell in. He didn’t have a beginning. His body did, but he didn’t. And he came and dwelt in that body so that he might offer himself as the blameless, perfect, spotless lamb of God for sinners. Okay, so we read in this passage here, in Exodus 21, it says, he shall be surely be punished according to the woman’s husband will lay upon him, and he shall pay as the judges determine.
So he’s going to get a punishment from the husband, and the judges are going to determine whether or not he’s going to make some type of restitution. Because the idea is the guy wasn’t. He was fighting with another man. He didn’t go up to the woman, hit her in the stomach or take a knife to her, any of this kind of. They were striving. The woman apparently gets in the middle of it.
And the guys, they’re passionate. And he swings or knees or whatever he does, and he hits the woman so that it damages the child inside of her or it kills her, whichever one. And this is what we see. Verse 23. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
And he goes on and he talks about dealing these things with the eye, with the tooth of his servants, whether it’s his maid or his man servant. He talks about dealing with his animals and all of these things. He’s very particular. God is very particular about what he lays out for these punishments. And again, Chris Matthews asked some good questions of Donald Trump in that interview. And Donald Trump doesn’t know because he hasn’t thought about, he’s on the spot.
He’s deer in the headlights. And he gave a great answer. There should be punishment. I was like, whoa. That was a good answer. And then he’s tripping all over himself when it comes to doing the other. But there doesn’t need to be a ban. It’s already there. It’s already there. If you do this, this is the penalty for it. It’s there. We read about God’s punishment in the book of Hosea, and there in.
In chapter 13, here’s what we read. Samaria shall become desolate, for she hath rebelled against her God, and they shall fall by the sword. Their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped. And God warns about these things as curses. America has been living under curses for decades, and they think they’re blessings. This is what the modern church thinks. I have preached some of these things and taught these things on this show and other places for a long time, long before I was doing radio.
And I’ve had professed christians tell me, no, we’re not being cursed. We’re under God’s blessings. Don’t you see? All the blessing. And what they mean is they got their cell phone, they got their heating in air, they got their pool out back. They’ve got their fancy cars. They ride in, they got food to eat. They can go and do whatever they want. And they think that’s blessing. Now, certain parts of that are blessings.
We still have some vestiges of the blessings of God, but our blessings are quickly turning into curses because we’ve departed from God. And isn’t that what he said? Read deuteronomy 1528. Read it. He tells you, here’s the blessings, lays them out, and he says, if you won’t obey me, here’s the cursings. And it’s like the blessings turn into those cursings. They slowly change over into the cursings that destroy the people.
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Let me get them turned on. And caller, are you there? Yeah, tim, relax. It’s only stuffy. I just called in to say hello. Happy holidays to everybody. I’m here every morning. I see the chats. Grace always says hello. And some people, they know who they are. Cool. But anyway, I wanted people out of radio land to know that after three years of listening to you, I believe that you’re truly a man of conviction, that you believe what you’re saying.
You’re not like these police officers and judges and attorneys that say one thing and do another. You’re a true man of conviction. I want to thank you. God bless you and yours for the holidays. And everybody else out there, I’m on the side. Stuffy out. See you. Okay. Thank you, Stuffy. I appreciate you calling, man. Yep. Later. Okay. See you next year. All right, man. Bye bye. Bye bye.
All right, there goes stuffy. And thank you for the call stuff. I appreciate that very much. And. Yeah, same to you, brother. All right, one more. Some people will, you know, babies in the womb, they’re not really human. They’re not this, that, and the other. And all these things you bought into the lie that they’re just a blob of flesh, they clump of sales and all this stuff.
And I have to ask you, what is going on with the cousin of Jesus, Luke? Chapter one. You know, we’re entering that time of year where people read these passages leading up to the birth of Christ. By the way, it was kind of interesting. I’m just going to let you know something. I understand a lot of the stuff surrounding Christmas. I get it, winter solstice and combination of things.
But there was something interesting. My pastor brought up the other week, and he said, you know why December 25 came about? Because traditionally, not scripturally, we don’t know. We’re not told. In fact, the only thing I see in the New Testament that we’re really called to remember is the death of Christ, and that’s commemorated in the Lord’s table. We’re not told to necessarily celebrate his birth. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with remembering the incarnation, teaching it, preaching it, being a priest of God for it.
But we read passages like this, and I think for too many of us, we read it, and it’s kind of like we read it, but we didn’t really get what was going on. Listen to this. This is from Luke, chapter one. This is what it says. And Mary arose in those days and went into the hill country with haste and into the city of Judah and entered in the house of zechariahs.
Remember zechariahs? And she saluted Elizabeth. Zechariahs and Elizabeth are who? John the Baptist’s parents. Right. And remember, she had the same issue. She was barren and Zacharias was the priest. And his mouth was stopped until the birth of John the Baptist, at which time he opened his mouth and he says he’s going to be called John because everybody want to name him after his daddy. His name is going to be John.
Why? Because that’s what the angel said it would be. And it came to pass that when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe, that’s John the Baptist, leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost. Now, the other translations say the baby was filled with the Holy Ghost, and that caused her to speak out with a loud voice and say, blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
And whence is this to me that the mother of my lord should come to me? For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salvation sounded in my ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. And just for our roman catholic friends. If you’re listening and you’re Roman Catholic, I want you to see something here that Rome will not tell you because Rome has elevated Mary to co redemptrix with Christ.
It’s not just. Christ is the one and only mediator between God and. No, no, you’ve got Mary in there because Mary can influence her son. That is so blasphemous and antichrist in just. I don’t even know where to begin. But listen to what. Listen to what the scripture says. And blessed is she. This is Elizabeth. Blessed is she that believed. For there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.
And she’s talking about what Mary was told. And Mary said, listen, my soul doth magnify the Lord, and my spirit hath rejoiced in. What does that say? God my savior. Now, some of you may be familiar with the doctrine, and I’m not wanting to get way off of this, but I see it as an opportunity. If you’re a Roman Catholic listening to this, I do want you to hear what’s being said there.
Many of you have been told that Mary’s a co redemptrix. Many of you have been told that she was immaculately conceived. She was sinless, just as Jesus was. Well, if you’re sinless, if you’re without sin, why do you need a savior? You don’t. Did Jesus need a savior? Nope. But Mary does. And she acknowledges it with her own mouth. And then, of course, we know that they pray the rosary, and they think that because they’re citing scriptures about these kinds of things, blessed is the fruit of your womb and all this other, that somehow that’s right.
But it’s not. We’re never called to pray to Mary or the saints that have gone before us. We’re not called to do that. And they are living. I understand they’re dead here as far as their bodies have been left here on the earth. But they’re alive before our father, but we’re not called to pray to them. In fact, when disciples came to Jesus, what did he tell them? He said, in this manner, therefore, pray, lord Jesus.
Is that what he said? No. He said, our father. Our prayers are to be directed to the Father by the power of the spirit through the Son. See, they all have a role that they play in that. Jesus is our great high priest, but our prayers go to our father. That’s who we were to pray to. And here we see, even in the womb, the baby John the Baptist recognizes the voice of Mary, the one who’s carrying the one.
He’s going to be the forerunner for the Lord himself, Yahweh himself. In the flesh, Baba, as one guy said, in the flesh, he’s going to be paving the road for him. And I got to ask you in all of this, what you have seen and what you have heard from these politicians telling you one thing with their mouth, but their hearts are far from God. Donald Trump, Mike Johnson, the rest of these cats, and it isn’t just them.
There’s a whole plethora of people. And I think this exists in all of these little skirmishes and fights. You’ve got pro second amendment, second amendment groups who can’t solve the problem and just deal a death blow to those fighting against it. Because if they do, they’re out of their work, they’re out of their money. It’s the same stuff. Bring an end to it. Establish justice, set forth liberty.
Really do it. Quit playing with your food and eat it. My goodness. But this is where we are. And we’re here not because of democrats. We’re here because of those who claim that they are gods, that they love God and his word and the Lord Jesus and life and all of this stuff, but in works, they deny him. That’s what we’re here about. Are you one of those people who are just content to go along with the political establishment? Because that’s what they’re doing.
They’re just like those hypocrites that Jesus dealt with in Matthew 23 and going back into Matthew 20. And if you read from like, I think it’s about Matthew 20 on through Matthew 23, Jesus never lets up on those people. Now, he is very compassionate. In fact, the Bible says that when he looked out among the people, he had compassion on them. Because he saw them as sheep wandering around like they don’t have a shepherd.
He had compassion on them. He treated the people of Israel different than he did with those who were, those who studied the law and sought to uphold it and everything else. He dealt with them completely different. And if you’re those who continue to play this political game, you continue to say one political party is better than the other. You’ll justify the sins and the crimes and the treasonous acts of the red party.
There’s an irony for you. The red party. You know what? Red? Yeah. I’ll let you figure it out. Versus the blue party. They’re both working for the same agenda. When Mike Johnson went and shut down that bill, he’s doing the same things the guys wearing the blue jersey are doing. Same thing. We won’t have God rule over us. Oh, we’ll give him lip service. Our hearts are far from him.
Because it’ll cost us. It’ll cost us money. It’ll cost us support. It may cost us our position. We can’t push this stuff. Beware the leaving of the Herodians. Yep. Just as much as you’re aware of the leavein of the Pharisees, beware of those of the Herodians. Neither one of them are following after God. Neither one of them. When are the people of God going to get it. I know many of you do.
So I don’t mean to chastise many of you out there. I know many of you do get that. You get it. But there are some of you still stuck in that. And would to God that he would grant real repentance to us as a whole. Jeremiah cried out in lamentations, Lord, turn us, and we’ll be turned. See? Can the leopard changes spots. Neither can you, who are accustomed to doing sin.
Stop. You can’t change yourself. You’re in desperate need of the living God to breathe life into you and to say, come forth. Many of you are in desperate need of that. You’ve heard it all your life. You’ve been like this guy, me. You’ve done whatever the preacher said. Walk that aisle. Walk that. And won’t you come? And won’t you come right, you’ve come to the front, you’ve walked the aisle, you’ve cried the tears, you’ve prayed the prayers, you’ve went through the Romans road, you’ve done the four spiritual flaws and all this other stuff, but you’ve never been born again, because that does not come through your flesh doing things.
It comes through the spirit of God, who works as he will in accordance with the word of God. We used to have a question in the catechism, and it talked about that as well. It’s the spirit and the word working together in harmony to accomplish God’s person, God’s purposes in the hearts of the people who hear. That’s why he gets the glory. Today. We see people come to Christ, and they get all the glory.
Oh, they’ll. They’ll give lip service to God, but then they start elevating them. Immediately. They elevate them. Now, look, it’s great to talk to new converts who are genuinely converted. It’s great to talk to them, to see that joy and that excitement. And it’s like everything becomes new. Just like the scripture says, old things are passed away, all things become new. And they got so many questions, and all of a sudden they’re seeing stuff, but they can’t put it all together.
What a blessing it is to see God do that work in their life. We need that in the lives of the people here in America. Father, would you bring that? Would you grant your people repentance and true faith and raise them up, that it might be known that you are the one doing it and not them of their flesh, and that you would be glorified and turn us back to you, even in this late moment.
Please do it in Jesus name we ask. Guys, have a great day. Catch Bradley at 03:00 p. m. , Eastern, sonsoflibertymedia. com before newsnews. com and also on rumble, sons of Liberty Radio live. And then, Lord William, we’re going to be back in the morning. Mike Bambus, you don’t want to miss this. Seriously, you don’t want to miss this. Don’t worry. You won’t have to have pen and paper.
I’m going to put all of these documents that we’re going to talk about in the archives. I really believe we talked about it last night. I really believe this is going to be a tremendous help for many of you. Okay, if you’ll do it, if you’ll do it, I think it’ll be a tremendous help for you. It will alleviate some of the things that probably bother you in your mind and get you ready to do what you need to do.
Because for many of you, God has you here for such a time as this. All right, we’ll see you back in the morning. Lord will, 06:00 a. m. . Adios. .
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