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Summary
➡ The text is a heated debate about racial bias, gun control, and constitutional rights. The speaker challenges Geraldo’s claims, asking for evidence that a tragic incident was racially motivated. They also argue about whether restricting gun ownership for 18-year-olds is constitutional, comparing it to other rights like buying beer or driving. The speaker insists that constitutional rights can be limited, but only with a compelling government interest and in the least restrictive way. The text ends with a disagreement about COVID-19 death rates in Florida.
➡ The text is a heated discussion about the Israel-Palestine issue, with one person accusing the other of spreading misinformation and using their authority irresponsibly. The speaker is frustrated with the other’s lack of research and impulse control. The conversation ends with the speaker suggesting a future debate and thanking the audience for tuning in.
Transcript
Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that’s not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino. I hope you’re all enjoying a very happy Thanksgiving with family. I mean, they come first, right? God, family, country, that order. Get it right and everything falls in line. Folks, I thought to myself, what do we do for folks for Thanksgiving to put a little smile on their face? And given that, Geraldo is back in the news, who bizarrely wants to fight me again or something like that. Geraldo wants to fight me again. But he does end it off pretty nice, so it’s all in good fun.
Check this out. I want to ask you about Dan Bongino, because I’m sure that you saw this. He’s being floated as Secret Service Director, the possibility of… I mean, there you go. And I just want to be clear for our viewers who aren’t familiar. You two sparred a lot on Fox, and man, am I being understated when I say that. How would you feel about him being Secret Service Director? I can’t imagine anyone who I feel more fiercely combative with than Dan Bongino. If he were to walk into a bar and I was having a beer, we’d probably square off.
We disagree on everything. I think he has his own set of facts. I think he’s a provocateur. But I go back to what I said about Major Pete. I have no issue at all with his honesty, his credibility, his character, his patriotism, his love of the Secret Service. I think all those things are positive for Bongino. I think that in some ways, all of these people in the Cabinet, and you could name others as well, Dr. Oz, are great on TV. They are bigger than life. They’re great communicators. I see where the President-elect is going with this Cabinet.
Can they do the job, the day-to-day, the administrative stuff, running these businesses? And they are giant businesses, even though they’re government agencies. I guess we’ll see. Some will, some won’t. But with Bongino, let me put it this way. If I was a target and Bongino was on the job, I feel that Bongino would keep me safe. He would do the job. I have a very nice compliment at the end. It’s all in good fun, folks. Again, I don’t know why everybody wants to fight me all the time. It’s this fascination with me and fighting. We are not squaring.
Can you imagine, folks? I want to leave this here. I know I’m beaten. I just can’t tell you, pun intended. Listen, I’m 50, and I feel every second of it. The dude is 31 years older than me. Can you imagine squaring up with a guy you outweigh by probably 40-plus pounds in a bar? Oh, my gosh, this is just insane. Real hilarious how many people sent that to me. I thought it would be really great to go over some of our greatest hits, pun intended, and misses with Geraldo, and to comment on them now years later.
I kind of miss that stuff. I think you’ll enjoy this. So I have not seen these in advance. However, I was there because it was me when it happened. But my team picked out a few of these. So I’m going to comment on them. I’m going to tell you what I was thinking when I was there, and I think you’re really going to enjoy this. But again, I have not seen these since I was there and it happened. Beam Cybersale is here. Bongino listeners enjoy up to 50% off at ShopBeam.com slash Bongino. Use code Bongino. Get some sleep.
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He ends up dead. In the same town where George Floyd was asphyxiated by a brutal cop’s knee on his neck. So by those incidents, you’ve extrapolated as a reporter data that every black child in America should be afraid of the police. And that’s rational to you. That’s rational? Explain that reason, please. That one vividly sticks out, because Geraldo claims to be a journalist, right, guys? And here’s the thing. If you actually look at the data—who is it, Roland Fryer and others who’ve done actual data research analysis on police interactions between minorities and the police— the police incidents against black men and minorities are grossly exaggerated by the media narrative that black men are being hunted.
But they’re exaggerated so badly it’s not even in a ballpark. It’s not even in a ballpark. I think the number of unarmed black men who were shot by the police was somewhere in the neighborhood of 11. And yet when you ask people out there who, like Geraldo, claim to be journalists and don’t know the data, you know, what’s going on with police interactions with young black men, you would think there were hundreds of thousands of people being hunted in the street. What killed me about that clip is I remember he’s not so much an opinion guy.
He portrays himself as an investigative reporter and he totally missed the ball on that. And when I asked him for the data, can you produce the data and I stopped him, do you notice he just kept filibustering? This was kind of like what went on with me and Geraldo over my entire time of doing this show, Hannity, with him over the course of five years. He would never produce facts. He claimed to be a facts guy, but it was always some bizarre, crazy opinion that he got from, like, Joy Reid or something. That’s a good one.
What was it? Yeah, all right. Let me see the next one. We have a process for that. And just injecting race into this, Geraldo, which you do on these police issues constantly, when you have none of the data, you have no evidence whatsoever. You’re making me the issue again. Don’t you have an argument to make that doesn’t concern me? I’m not making you the issue. I’m responding to your dopey comments. You have no idea that there’s a racial undertone to this at all. And you’re saying, oh, black parents have really because no, you have no data to back that up at all.
You’re just further inflaming the situation. And the country will burn to the ground because of people like you who say dumb things like that with no evidence to back it up. You see, any time you ask Geraldo, I’m guessing, guys, this is going to be a theme, right, that me asking Geraldo to actually back up his opinion. And then watch. Watch what he does every time. Instead of actually producing data, show me because I will go to the mat for anyone being abused by police officers any time. I will. If your civil rights are violated, I’m a civil libertarian.
Call my show. Email us. You know, we’ll do our best. Well, you know, if you can produce a viable case to us, we’ll highlight it. OK, he never does that. Then he says, you’re making about me. I’m debating you, you knucklehead. What the hell’s up that the Hannity of me and you on had me and you on the show so I can debate you. You’re going to say something stupid. It’s about you saying something stupid. Gosh, just give me some data. I mean, anything to chew on like Pac-Man and that maybe we can argue about some his opinions are just based in stupid stuff all the time.
It’s so ridiculous. Everybody get out about me. Of course, about you. He said something dumb. Ronald is perfectly entitled to an opinion. You know, just because you weren’t a police officer doesn’t mean you can’t comment on policing issues. I always hate when liberals say that about us. But, you know, whatever going to dinner with a police captain doesn’t. I’m not suggesting you are. I’m just saying that, you know, you don’t start minimizing my experience. Can you shut up for two seconds? Listen, can you just be quiet? See me. I remember this. This is actually right here.
I’m tired of this guy. He never shuts up. He’s always got something to say. He’s entitled to an opinion. He’s not entitled to a certain set of facts. You don’t know anything about actual policing if you haven’t done it. Saying or suggesting, you know, you can relate to the experience of police officers. You can’t. I’m not suggesting what happened yesterday wasn’t a tragedy. It was, obviously. There’s a dead young man who’s never going to take another breath of oxygen again in his life. We don’t have all the facts on this. We know, she said, Taser, it appears appears to be a mystery.
You know, listen, me commenting on my own commentary kind of silly. However, on Thanksgiving, I think it’s kind of funny. Do I? It is right. I mean, I’m listening to that trying to pretend it’s not me. Who sounds irrational there? Is it me or Geraldo? I’m not talking over him. He keeps yelling and screaming. And all I’m asking him is produce a fact set or a data set to show that he has evidence that this man in that incident where the woman thought she was grabbing a Taser and grabbed their gun targeted because he was black.
Notice, I repeat over and over, I am not denying the tragic nature of what happened at all. The young man will never be with us again. OK, period. I never denied that. I’m simply asking Geraldo, show me your evidence. This was race based because you keep making a race argument. Who’s the crazy one? And he’s screaming over me. Now, I’ve known Hannity a long time. We’re really good friends. He’s a good man. He can tell I’m getting pissed off. And I got to tell you, of all the times I’ve debated for all that, so one thing.
And again, this is not personal. We were always friendly off the air. That used to bother me the most. He could never. You notice how I sit there and listen to him. And in the minute you open your mouth, it’s like he couldn’t control himself. And it was so hard to make a point because he just couldn’t stop talking. This is better than I thought. I realize you guys dug all this stuff up. All right. Let me see the next one. You keep using the beer analogy. Geraldo, you’re a lawyer. I have not seen Amendment 2.5, the right to buy a court’s light, shall not be infringed.
These are legal adults in the country. Now, having said that, if you’re going to infringe on a constitutional right, according to the court system, you have to do it. It has to be a compelling government interest. We all agree preventing mass murders, a compelling government interest. Government interest, point taken. But it has to be agreed on that, Dan. Thank God. But it has to… Wait, I’m not done. There’s a second part to that. You’re a lawyer. I think you know this. It’s through the least restrictive means. The least restrictive means is not to tell every single 18-year-old in the entire country who’s done nothing wrong.
You can no longer purchase a rifle because of some nut. Then why can’t you tell them they can’t drink beer? Why are you telling them they can’t drive a semi? Did you just hear what I said? Did you just hear what I said? We restricted our brains. He don’t… Okay. Even these guys are laughing. This is like a totally unplanned show. We just thought of this the other day. We thought of this the other day, but we got to do this for Thanksgiving. This is another thing that used to bother me about these debates with Geraldo.
You make a point. He never addresses the point, and he brings up the same point you just countered without ever addressing what you said. So just to be clear, this segment’s about gun control and legislation that would prevent 18-year-olds who did nothing wrong from exercising their constitutional right to protect themselves, right? Geraldo’s obviously a gun grabber, okay? So Geraldo compares that to other things like buying a beer. But when I bring up the point that buying a beer is not a constitutional right, it’s not addressed in the Constitution at all. However, the right to bear arms, which shall not be infringed, is he just, as a lawyer, he bypasses the point.
Notice how I put an accent on that point because there are constitutional rights that are infringed on. No, there aren’t. Yes, there are. If you have a say, you have the right to freedom of religion. If your religion says, I get to go over and slash my neighbor’s back with a razor blade because my religion told you to, the government’s going to infringe on it, correct? Constitutional rights are infringed on all the time, but for the government to do that legally, it has to have a compelling government interest preventing you from getting slashed on the back, which is a compelling government interest, and it has to do with the least restrictive means.
So it can’t ban all religions to stop you from slashing your neighbor in the back. Does that make sense, guys? You can infringe on a constitutional right, but you have to defend it. You have to defend it. That is not the least restrictive means to ban every 18-year-old for the acts of one person. It’s not even close. And you notice how he doesn’t address it at all, and he brings up the exact same point. He brings up the exact, driving a car. That’s not a constitutional right. There is no constitutional right to driving a car on a public road with no license.
There isn’t. Oh, man. This guy’s an attorney, too. I should have went to law school. Sheesh. They don’t give these things out like Hershey bars. What else? Wait, hold on. Let me take a quick break, and we’ll get to the next one. Hey, when the doctors at Brickhouse Nutrition announce a Black Friday sale, it’s a big event. Now’s the time to save a bundle while you reboot and optimize your health. This is the biggest sale of the year on everything. It includes Field of Greens. It’s a life-changing, super fruit and vegetable drink that promises your doctor will notice your improved health from good nutrition or your money back.
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So thank you, Field of Greens. We really appreciate it. All right. Let’s see what you guys next from our good buddy. Wants to fight me all the time, Geraldo. Geraldo doesn’t know the numbers. I live here. Florida is 26. I just looked at the numbers. Dan, it’s not my fault. You never know what you’re talking about. It’s not my fault. You are so full of crap. You never research anything before you come on the air. You are so full of it. That’s why I hate coming on with you. This guy’s lost forever. Right? This guy, Geraldo, let Dan talk.
Geraldo, he doesn’t like to do that, Sean, because he always gets caught. He can’t. Never knowing what he’s talking about. And he’s inspected the story and his position on the border. Stick to the facts while he has none. I did stick to the facts. You don’t know them. I’m embarrassed to be on this air with you. That’s why I’m embarrassed. You never know them. But he kept coming back. It’s unbelievable. Do you want to bet me a thousand dollars? You want to put your money where your mouth is? You want to put your money where your mouth is? 16,000.
Again, talk so he cannot stop talking ever. And whenever he had this bad habit, Geraldo, of coming on the air and he would fall for every media narrative. You just saw a couple that guns, guns randomly kill people that it doesn’t matter about the person. It’s the guns that we got to control the guns, not the people. Right. Black men are being hunted by cops everywhere. That segment, I do remember that was during the covid hysteria where Ron DeSantis very smartly opened up the state in the schools early earlier than a lot of these other covid lock downers.
And Geraldo was going nuts because he fell for the media narrative, of course, because he always does that because he just doesn’t do his homework that covid deaths were the highest in Florida or something like that. And my data was accurate, of course, they were not. And he just made it up. And what happens is when he gets called out on the facts, he tells you, you don’t know the facts while he presents facts that are wrong. And then he says, stick to the facts when you correct the facts that were wrong every single time as he talks over you.
I remember that one. That one really pissed me off because I went back and look later. I’m like, this guy will fall for anything like, damn, at least one time. Can we agree on anything? All right. Let’s see what you got next. The citizens of Tallahassee. And whose fault is that? With ammunition provided to Israel by the United States without a demand for a ceasefire. I demand a ceasefire. I demand I demand that Israel win the war. Israel needs to win the war against terrorism. By what? All these children. Geraldo, you do this every time.
This is such garbage and I’m really getting sick of it. You play this emotional game with the audience and use your position of responsibility to put out misinformation. You don’t stop attacking the police thing to address the issue. This is not about me. You didn’t come on the show to attack me. You came on the show to talk about the issue because you have a point about the issue. You’re pushing your position of authority. I’m sick of you. I’m sick of you. Absolutely. You’re on the page. You can’t go on the air. Can you calm down? Yeah, you really need to calm down.
I’m a 10-time Emmy winner with deep experience in the Middle East. Have you ever even been there or have you ever even been there? I want to make my point. That one, folks, just so you know, I’m sitting here and a little background on that clip. I did not know. Do you guys know why I didn’t know? I did not know he threw the paper at the screen. You know why? I think he made even do it. We didn’t have return. So I’m not seeing him. All I see is a black screen in front of me.
I didn’t find out the next day. The next day, I’m watching the clip. Did he throw a piece of paper at the sky? I’m in Stuart, Florida. He’s 800 miles away. Did he throw in paper at the screen? That was Geraldo, man. That’s how he would do it all the time. This thing on the Israel-Palestinian issue, he falls for every single media narrative. He never did his homework. And you notice his impulse control is so bad, he simply can’t stop talking when given the opportunity for me to make a counter-argument. All he does is start screaming every single time.
But I didn’t see that when it happened. Now, I take the back. I think someone texted me about two hours later. I was like, did he throw a piece of paper at you? And I went and looked on Twitter. I’m like, holy Moses, he did. He’s throwing paper at the screen. I’m throwing paper at the screen. What a lunatic. Folks, is that it? Is that the last one? Oh, man, those are good ones. We got to do this again sometime. We may do them. Listen, I got to get a thing going, Geraldo. Sean, if you want to set it up, I will do another round with Geraldo.
But it’s got to be like multiple segments, all right? If you want to do it, I’ll do it. The ratings would be killer. We’ll do it. We can do a round two of this. Hey, folks, thanks for tuning in. Hope you’re enjoying your Thanksgiving. I thought you’d enjoy that. We really appreciate it. I’ll see you guys back here on Monday. [tr:trw].