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Shopbeam.com Bungee first up today, we talk with Scott Pressler about what’s really important, getting people registered to vote. But more importantly, voting early. Don’t make the Republicans waste a lot of money like the Trump campaign and chase your vote. You gotta vote early. Bank your vote, please. Press will give you the details here. If you don’t know Scott Pressler, you have to. He’s great. Greenwin, Pennsylvania. I think we’re gonna win this election, but I want to welcome back to the show a guy committed to the do, not just the talk. You know, talk is great. That’s what I do.

But if it doesn’t motivate action. It’s kind of useless. Action is what changes the world and adds value, not just talk. Scott Pressler, welcome back to the show. Thanks for your hard work. We appreciate it. Hey, Dan, thanks for having me. Of course. So we’ve got about 80 days plus left. Actually, less than that, Scott. Early voting starts relatively quickly. You have been on the ground for a long time. You have committed your life basically to registering more republican voters. First, please give me an update on Pennsylvania, because you and I both know if we win Pennsylvania, the Trump campaign, it’s not impossible, but very difficult for Kamala Harris to put together the electoral math.

You have been focused like a laser. Give us some updates. Hopefully something optimistic. Yes, Pennsylvania wins the White House. A lot has changed, Dan, since I last spoke with you. We have hired a state director for the commonwealth of Pennsylvania. And I have twelve additional field staff on the ground all across the commonwealth. And now in the last three weeks, since the Democrats undemocratically pushed Joe Biden aside, making Kamala their presumptive nominee, having Kim wall stolen validity, Tim walls going there. You know, we’ve seen a lot of contrived and calculated momentum on social media and even myself, I was thinking, you know, are the Democrats going to get a bump in voter registration? Well, I’m here to tell you that every single week for the last three weeks since Joe Biden was pushed aside, Republicans have maintained a net gain of more registered Republicans than Democrats across all 67 counties.

Now, it gets even better, Dan. And I’m not here to sell hopium. I’m just here to tell you facts and data since we last spoke. That’s why we have you. You’re not a B’s guy, so go. Go for it. We flipped bucks county from blue to red. Now, let me provide context. Four years ago, there were 15,000 more registered democrats than republicans. And as of Monday of this week, there are now 500 more registered republicans. That is a flip of 15,500 in just four years. And when you realize that 2020 came down to 80,000 votes statewide, that’s one 10th of what we need in just one county to win the election.

And furthermore, Newsweek, not Newsmax, Newsweek, they reported yesterday that in Pennsylvania, republicans are outpacing the democrats four to one statewide. So I’m here to tell people, do not believe the polls, do not believe what you are seeing that is calculated and contrived on social media. We are not seeing the Kamala enthusiasm online reflected in the data on the ground. And last point, I want to make is if you’re worried about this election, if you feel scared about the future of our country, then I ask you, help me register more voters in Pennsylvania. How can wait? Tell them how I want to make sure we get this out.

Tell them exactly how they can help you. So I want to give a shout out to Ellis Dukehardt. He is one of our staff. You know what he did in the last two days, Dan? We have a list of every FFL federal firearms licensed company in Pennsylvania. Ellis visited in person 13 different gun stores in the last two days. He brought with him voter registration forms, and he asked the business owners would they be willing to put out voter registration form. So every single hunter, every single gun enthusiast gets registered to vote, and 13 out of 13 said yes.

So wherever you are in the country right now listening to Dan Bongino. Yes. While Pennsylvania is important, we have millions of hunters from Arizona to North Carolina to Wisconsin to Pennsylvania, that I want you all to do that very process. Print out some voter registration forms. Type into the Internet. Pennsylvania voter registration application. Print them off. Go visit your local gun store and get to work. And this is not limited to gun stores. You can go to Cabela’s and you can ask your priest for permission to register voters. And you can go to Home Depot and Walmart in farmers markets to also reach out to our Amish.

And I’ll tell you with Josh Shapiro, our Democrat governor, that has been waging a war on religious freedom and school choice and small businesses and dairy farms and forced vaccinations, we’re seeing the Amish registering to vote in droves, and so we must also be at our farmers markets. Scott, the Democrats must hate you. We’re talking to Scott Pressler. Scott, give your website out, please. And I want to ask you another question. Give the website out so they can help you directly in this effort. Thank you. My website is early. Like you’re early to something. Vote. Vote action.com.

that’s early. Vote action.com dot bongino army. You know what to do. Scott, you said something really important. You know, having run for office and lost, but getting the ground operating experience. I don’t want people to dismiss easily what you just said. You are flipping people from Democrat to republican or just registering new people as Republicans. That matters was when you were a candidate, like I was in this congressional race, you’ll get a walk list. So in other words, you don’t know who people voted for in the United States. It’s a secret ballot, but you know, their voter registration, that’s not secret at all.

So if I’m a republican candidate, whatever. Dan Bongino for Congress, I get a walk list in a primary. And obviously in a primary, I’m only going to knock on republican doors. In a general, you may knock on some Democrat doors, too. The point I’m trying to make is your actions in Pennsylvania with your group by flipping people or registering new people. These are people who are now going to appear for the first time on walk lists for assembly candidates, state Senate candidates, dog catcher, city councilmen, Congress. They are going to meet Republicans from this point on who they’ve never shown up on the radar before.

This is not just some incidental thing. This is critical to flipping swing states. Well, and you’re so right. This is top to bottom, the work that we’re doing. Yes, it’s going to help President Donald Trump, but it’s also going to help McCormick for the Senate seat to give President Trump a Senate so we can pass legislation. This is going to help Bresnahan defeat and Democrat Matt Cartwright in northeast Pennsylvania. This is going to help take back the state house in Pennsylvania and keep our state senate. So in two years, after we elect President Trump this November, we can defeat Josh Shapiro.

This is a long game. But I do also want to point out one other county, because Luzerne county, we are 1100 voters away from flipping Luzerne county from blue to red. And to give you context, four years ago, Dan, there were 24,000 more registered democrats than Republicans. And get this, the boss, the big guy, he’s coming to Wilkes, Barry, this Saturday. And so my entire early vote action team will be there. I will be there. And we hope within the next coming weeks to have also flipped Luzerne county from blue to red, we are making substantial progress.

We’re talking to Scott Pressler. He is a one man voter registration machines. Dedicate his life to it. Scott, I want you to tell the audience, because really, no one has more expertise than you. No one. I mean, even the RNC probably acknowledges you were the guy to go to for this. I’ve been begging them to bank their vote early in the early voting process for two reasons. Number one, I don’t want to see shenanigans on election day, which are very possible. But second, it’s a reason I haven’t gotten into yet. It costs money to go chase votes.

And they know when you voted. Again, they don’t know who you vote for, folks, but they know you voted. They can tell. So if you don’t vote and you wait to election day, republican candidates have to then spend money on a mailer to keep sending a mailer to you because you didn’t vote yet Democrat. That’s why. Another reason Democrats vote early, it’s cheaper for them to vote early because then they get wiped off the list. And you don’t have to waste postage mailing to people who are waiting on election day for no good reason. We’ve got to bank our vote.

We cannot wait for election day. Your thoughts? In Nevada in 2022, it snowed on election day. Adam lacks salt lost by 8000 votes. 150,000 registered Nevada Republicans did not vote. And Luzerne County, Pennsylvania, Luzerne county, they ran out of paper ballots on election day in November of 2022. And in Maricopa county in Arizona, we all know that the machines had printing errors on election day. And furthermore, I was there in Milwaukee at the RNC. What happened the day after the power outage happened, people were grounded. And it actually affected early voting polling locations in Arizona because of that polling, that power outage.

So what I’m doing, Dan, is I have been posting to the Pennsylvania Department of State daily, asking them to make sure that not a single illegal alien or non citizen is on voter rolls. They have not responded to me. They have not responded to my election integrity request. So I have been going in person, county to county, delivering an early vote action letter, asking three things. A can you tell us with certainty that not a single illegal alien is registered to vote within your county’s voter rolls? B, what is your plan to make sure that your county does not run out of any paper ballots at polling locations? And c, do your polling locations have backup generators in case the electricity goes out on election day? That you will still be able to maintain the voter process.

And so I need everybody’s help. I need you to contact your Pennsylvania county registrar, county recorder, and ask them those questions. Put pressure peacefully to provide for accountability and transparency. Let’s be proactive going into this November. Let’s not wait for shenanigans to happen. Let’s be proactive. And you agree with me, correct the bank. Get that vote in there. Get it in there. It makes no sense to wait. Let me make this crystal clear. Sorry to interrupt you, Dan. My organization is early vote action. And yes, I am moving to Pennsylvania. I bought property in Pennsylvania just to cast my vote for Donald Trump.

And because I’m going to be crisscrossing this entire state from now until November, doing everything I can to get out the vote, I will be voting early, in person, in Pennsylvania, I will be locking in my vote early, and especially to our truck drivers that are serving us, to our police officers, to our firefighters, to our pilots, to our flight attendants, to any member of the service industry that is working tirelessly to serve us, the american people. I encourage you because I know that you work long twelve hour shifts. I encourage you to lock in your vote early because we don’t want to miss any opportunity to elect Donald J.

Trump this November. Please, folks, if we win Pennsylvania, I’m telling you, Scott was 48.7262% of it serious. Scott, unfortunately, I got to run your website one last time for the people who want to help you get the job done. Sky needs your help. What is it? Help me hire more staff. Please financially contribute at early vote action.com. please donate at early vote action.com. dan, thank you for having me. Thank you. Listen, we’ll do it again, man. You just, you know, you messaged me when you got something to say and you, I only have doers on the show.

I’m not interested in chatterboxes anymore. Scott Presser, thanks for your hard work, man. We’ll have you back before the election. We appreciate it. Thank you. Let’s go. All right. Bye. That’s good. This guy, I’m telling you, he is, that there is, there probably isn’t a single human being outside of Donald Trump hated more by the Democrats than Scott. I’m telling you right now, the guy has registered more voters than multimillion dollar organizations. This is all he does. This is not an act, folks. It’s not a shtick. Go follow his social media. He is everywhere, all the time, every day.

It is. You want to talk about a laser focused individual? This is what he does. Registers, voters registers. And I told you why that matters. You register voters, they appear on walk lists. They all of a sudden start meeting republicans for the first time. These are the things we explain on this show you may not get in other places. Another great interview coming up, but lets hear from our next sponsor. Before Birch, I didnt really endorse any gold companies. I didnt think there was a need to own gold, so I wouldnt recommend it to my listeners.

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It’s one of the biggest scandals of our time. Take a listen. All right. Right to it. No time to waste. Julie Kelly, one of the best reporters out there. Her and Darren Beatty are primarily responsible for keeping the biggest scandal, or one of them, in modern political history, in the news. What the hell was a pipe bomb doing in front of Kamala Harris’s location at the DNC on January 6? Julie, you can follow her. She’s at Julie. Underscore Kelly number two on X. And I just retweeted her article. Julie, really amazing video that came out yesterday.

Thanks for joining us today. Dan, thank you so much, as always, for covering my work and Darren’s and keeping the story alive because we can’t let it be buried like the media wants. No, they do want it to go away. And as I’ve been saying, it’s really strange because it would feed their narrative that the Chewbacca guy and evil red hat wearing MAGA Republicans were going to take over the government and almost kill Kamala Harris. Yet nobody wants to talk about it. So the video you got, it’s on your social media in your article. You can.

You can check it out. And I encourage you to. The video you have now appears to show a DC Metro vehicle and a guy getting out. We don’t know if he’s a police officer. We don’t know who. I don’t want to make any assumptions. We don’t know who it is, but it’s definitely a DC Metro vehicle gets out right before this bomb was allegedly found and appears to have some type of black bag. Now, Julie, that’s really interesting because a bunch of explosives personnel, including dogs and EO detects, missed this alleged bomb and no one seen the bomb actually been placed, being placed there? What’s going on? Have you gotten any comment on the video since you put this story out yesterday? I’ve been getting a lot of comment and I believe that Republicans in Congress and of course, people like Tom Massey and Representative Barry Loudermilk have been really on top of everything.

J six. So I believe that they are going to pursue this and try to find out who that individual was that exited the DC Metro suv at 1251 that day. He appears. He doesn’t appear. He moves out of the sight line of this main security camera that is aimed towards one of the entrances at the DNC, including the driveway where Kamala Harris’s motorcade entered at 11:25 a.m. he moves out of the sight of that camera. There’s no camera, by the way, in the two benches in the shrub area where the bomb, we were told, Dan, was planted the night before, remember? So there’s no camera footage from that angle.

He moves out at 1251. He’s carrying a bag. He’s kind of covered head to toe. He kind of puts one of his jackets or something over his face. 1253. He exits that frame. He’s back into the security camera location and he gets back into that DC metro suv. About twelve minutes later, the device, quote unquote, is finally detected by a plainclothes Capitol police officer. And this coincides with about 20 minutes after a device was allegedly found at the RNC. So it’s very clear now, Dan, there was no pipe bomb there the night before. There was no device there, which is why bomb sniffing canines didn’t pick it up.

Dozens of passers by and pedestrians, several DNC security, DC metro police, secret service post standards, secret service motorcade drivers, DC metro drivers. It’s incredible how hundreds of people with trained, trained law enforcement, security professionals, including a dog with some pretty heavy ethmo turbinates who has no political agenda. It’s a freaking dog. Managed to not sniff black powder. So crazy, Julie. So weird. Well, and we were told again by the FBI this was a viable device, that it had black explosive powder, that it was lethal, that it could have killed people. The Department of Homeland Security inspector general Joseph Kafari confirmed in his report, released a few weeks ago, that she came within 20ft of this alleged device.

If it was where we were told and have been told it was planted the evening before. And again, media completely ghosting this story, including the report. Kamala Harris never talks about it. Joe Biden never talks about it in his numerous rants about January 6, which was the centerpiece of his reelection campaign. He talks about the gallows. He talks about the mobs. He talks about broken windows. He never talks about the crazy Maga bomber who almost blew up his incoming vice president. Wow. Come on. So crazy, right? I mean, Kamala was almost killed by a deranged MAgA, probably red hat wearing.

Maybe he was, you know, going out for subway sandwiches, and the guy probably had, like, some bleach and was screaming, you know, this is Maga country, too. And. Right. They have, some of you get that. They have this amazing story, and yet Julie Kamala never, ever talks about her being at the DNC. But let me get to something again. You and Darren, if it were not for you, too, this story’s gone, disappeared. No one would be covering it. Zero. You guys have been all over this. Darren did some reporting a while back. The FBI, who of course, I don’t trust as far as I could throw at all, is claiming, no, no, the pipe bomb was there.

It was planted the night before by this guy we have on video. We’re like, oh, okay. The guy you’re showing us on the video makes a phone call. Do you have the phone records? And it’s weird. The FBI’s like, no, no. Just those phone records are corrupted. We can’t find those. They can find everyone else. Julie, January 6. Grandma Smith is in jail because of phone records. They have her. They can’t find his phone records. There’s no actual video in the released FBI video from the night before of a bomb being planted. None. You just see this figure.

And Darren’s reporting indicates that there may be some manipulation going on of the actual video. I don’t believe it. Julie, I believe you are. You are absolutely 100% correct. That bomb was planted by some anti Trump lunatic minutes before being found as some plot to stop republicans from questioning the results of the election. I now have zero doubt. Right. And I know that you said that today on your podcast, and I think that that’s absolutely right. And you said plan b, but then you said, no, this was plan a. Plan a. Yeah, yeah, go into that.

What do you think about that? Well, and look, we’re going to have a lot more on this. Keep in mind, too, that one of the DC law enforcement officials, Donnell Harvin, and he is on media, social media all the time, blasting Donald Trump. He did a tabletop exercise with another DHS official. He’s head of DC DHS emergency services, you know, blah, blah, blah. One of those agencies, he was so worried that there could be a pipe bomb scare that they did a tabletop exercise December 30 of 2020. Wow, that is so weird. It’s like they knew something was going to.

That’s, gosh, these guys are good at this. Julie. But then. But he. Julie, they did a tabletop exercise like, hey, guys, winky winky, nod. What if we found a pipe bomb that interrupted Republicans from questioning the election? And then the weird thing, Julie, is to do the exercise. And then according to the FPS, they actually missed the pipe bomb. Wow. That’s so crazy, man. And the woman who found the one at the RNC, Carolyn Younger, she just happened to be doing her laundry. And she worked at home for Firstnet, the public private first responder communications system that had gotten a $92 million grant from the FBI the months before all of these coincidences were supposed to leave.

Again, I want to underscore one thing people say, well, how did they think they would get away with this? You know why, Dan? They thought they had January 6 so locked down that narrative, so locked down that anyone who disputed it was an insurrectionist would be cast out. They never imagined three and a half years later, that you and me and Darren Beatty and other influencers would still be digging, would still be coming up with this video, would still be asking questions and I exposing it. They thought it was done and over. Yeah. And it’s no, there is zero, absolutely zero chance I’m letting this go.

Julie, let me ask you another question here about this. I think they’re out to this entire thing, the deep state. I’m talking about the way they’re going to try to get out of this thing when they are forced by either a Trump presidency, a declassification, or a whistleblower, when they’re forced to tell the truth, and I like your opinion on this. Their out is going to be this. You know what? It was a training exercise that day. We put this fake bomb out there. You know, we had this incoming administration. We want to be sure security was tight.

It was a training exercise. I say that because it’s the only way they can kind of wiggle their way out of this or try to without seeming like they almost killed the vice president, United States, in furtherance of a political narrative. Look at what these maga guys are doing. Your thoughts on that? I mean, they definitely could. There’s just such a long record of the FBI insisting that this was a legitimate device, increasing the reward, you know, so you’ve got top officials on record. Early on, Stephen D’Antoano, recall, was head of the Washington FBI field office.

Fresh off the heels of executing, successfully implementing the Whitmer Fedknap hoax, he was promoted from Michigan to Washington. He went on, he gave a long video in March of 2021 talking about the bomber. And if you have any suspect, well, how could it be a training exercise by whom? And the FBI completely cut out of it. They could come up with that excuse and you know that people in the media, they will jump on that and say, oh, well, now this makes sense. So, sure, you know, now we can pay attention to the pipe bomb again.

But, you know, and there’s just going to be a lot more to come. And I do think that Republicans in Congress, and this is another reason Donald Trump has to win. It is our only hope, only hope of exposing all of the corruption behind January 6. We’re talking to Julie Kelly. Please follow her. It’s as, I need you to do this or you’re going to miss all the details on the story. Follow her. And Darren, she is at Julie, underscore Kelly number two, subscribe to our sub stack. You’re not going to, folks, the story is going to go right over your head if you’re not.

And it is a huge, huge, huge scandal. Julie, the Secret Service missing text from that day, that’s another scandal here. This is one of the reasons I’m led to believe, and I know there’s various opinions, and I have enormous respect for both of you guys. I don’t think the secret Service was involved directly in this. I know a lot of people getting that. And I mean, let me just explain why it, there is way too much liability for them. I think what happened with the secret Service and the reason the text disappeared that day is that they were told, hey, listen, that was a training device.

Here’s what we’re doing. They then realize that whether it was a training device or not, they’re getting played. They look horrendous. They look like, oh, my gosh, we just let a pipe bomb, fake or real or not, appear near our protectee, and we missed the entire thing. How did this happen? And then they decided to take advantage of the chaos afterwards by making it go away. And the reason I say that is, I’m not suggesting people at the top may not have known that I can’t vouch for. But the guys on the ground and the women on the ground, obviously a huge lapse.

There’s too much liability for them personally. Personally, there’s no way to get out of it that this bomb was found. You know what I’m saying? Like, they can’t just go, oh, no, I did my job. They didn’t. They missed it. Your thoughts on that. And again, if you have, you know, if you have a different opinion, let me know. But I think that’s why those texts are gone. Unfortunately. I think just because I’m so twisted at this point, I do think that I get it. They were, because they were in on this. Again, we still don’t know why Kamala Harris left the Capitol at 1115 and went to, to the DNC.

Why did she leave the Capitol? As you have said and we’ve discussed this, was her the pinnacle of her career? She’s going to make american history the first woman of color as the incoming vice president. She’s at the Capitol for Senate intelligence briefing. She inexplicably leaves to go to the DNC where she remained. She didn’t even go back for the beginning of the joint session that started at 01:00 she didn’t even hightail it back there. She was also a us senator. She was part of the proceedings that day. So why, I hope you understand, speaker one, I know it doesn’t make any sense.

I hope you understand. I’m not giving them a pass and I’m not talking about the management. Ron Roe and Kim Cheadle are clearly, clearly up to no good. I no doubt in my mind, Kim Cheadle, I have zero doubt, is lying about the text. She was a former director and Ron Rowe was in the protective operations secret Service branch when all this was going down. These unquestionably are not good people. I just, the guys on the ground, it just to me is such, I don’t know, maybe it’s just misplaced faith. Julie, I wish I had more time with you.

An amazing story, folks. It’s up there at declassified. That’s Julie’s blog. It’s at Julie underscore Kelly. I just retweeted it. Please support this amazing journalist. And she has a book out called January 6. You should read, too. Julie, thanks a lot for your time. We appreciate it. You’re the best, Dan. Thank you so much. You’re welcome. She’s great, folks. I hope you don’t think I’m giving anybody a pass. It’s obvious I’m not. I just think it’s so much liability for people who are, you know, they’re not making a lot of money. They’re probably G’s, twelve s, maybe G’s, 13s, for someone to come up to him and go, hey, ignore this bomb and we can’t tell you.

Why? I don’t know. Doesn’t make sense to me. Now, the management, after what we’ve learned recently, that’s a whole different story. But I have zero doubt that that bomb was planted. And that bomb was definitely not there the night before. No chance. I’ve got an interview coming up about our dreadful economy. And what you’re not being told. There’s some secrets out there. But our next sponsor first. Hey. Omaha steaks has been providing families across our great country with the finest quality steaks for over 100 years. My family included. Love Omaha steaks. These guys are always stealing out of my freezer.

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All the hidden secrets the Biden administration is not telling you about. Folks, these are some of the most important segments we do because they directly impact your wallet. That Kamala Harris wants to unburden with money. She wants to unburden it by lightening your wallet, removing some of that money and then placing it into government coffers so they can flush it down the toilet bowl. Here to talk about the current state of the economy is one of the best economic minds out there. A guy I follow on social media, and you should too. EJ Antoni. EJ, welcome back to the show.

Dan, thank you for having me again. Well, you’re again, I follow you on social media because you’re always ahead of the curve on these things. First, let me just ask you a very simple question. I get it. You know, one can predict the future. A thousand different variables could happen. Wars, we. I get it. But say we’re on the current trajectory we’re on now, the unemployment numbers, productivity numbers. Do you sense a recession might be close or even before the November election? Because that would change everything. I really do, Dan. I would not be surprised, actually, if they eventually backdate a recession to beginning this month in August.

And unfortunately, we’re never going to know before the election whether one has actually begun or not because we’re not going to get that official pronouncement handed down to us, if you will. But I think the american people at this point can look around and see their own personal finances, see what’s going on around them, and get a pretty good sense that the economy is not doing well. Yeah, we’re talking to EJ and Tony. EJ, you know, what I don’t like is the Democrats trying to distance themselves from policies that have been directly implicated in this economic malaise being caused right now.

And I use that word intentionally. I am not naive. I understand that swampy Republicans for years have played into the debt crisis. And some of them are now playing into the current tax crisis as well, with a lot of this manipulate, a lot of these manipulations of the tax code. I get it. And I just think the Democrats are far worse. And that’s why, you know, I’m forced to vote republican most of the time. I wish they could. I could vote conservative. But there is absolutely zero doubt that team Biden, Harris, now Tim Walls are all on the side of borderline socialist, if not outright socialist type redistribution.

They want a massive increase in the corporate tax. They want massive government spending to not only continue to be, but be enhanced. I mean, these are the types of things that are directly causing the economic crisis we’re in now through things like crowd out and productivity problems as companies have to forfeit more money over to the government. Oh, absolutely, Dan. That’s all 100% right. I think you’re spot on. And I would add to that that Kamala’s vp pick even wants to put a surcharge tax on capital gains and dividends. Can you imagine what that’s going to do to people’s retirement accounts? I mean, it’s just absolutely going to wipe them out.

Because those taxes apply not just to real increases in value, but just nominal increases. In other words, as stocks go up because of inflation, which, by the way, accounts for three quarters of all the stock gains we have seen under the Biden Harris administration, you don’t just owe tax on the real increase, you even owe tax on the nominal increase from inflation. In other words, you add in these additional surcharges on top of that and you end up with a negative real rate of return. You would have been better stuffing your money under a mattress. Yeah, this isn’t hard math to figure out even if you’re a leftist.

If inflation is, say, we’ll just, you know, pick fingers, 5%, five fingers, whatever. Inflation is 5% and you make a 5% nominal gain in the stock market, you have not made any real money. So if you’re then taxed on this fake gain, you have effectively lost money. In other words, what you could have bought before your fake 5% gain, you can actually buy less because you’ve had to give that fake gain over to the government, which they then really take. Speaker one. Exactly, Dan. And you know, this is the exact same thing that we see when this administration talks about how families are making more today than they ever have before.

I mean, sure, that’s true in a technical sense, but it’s not really true in any meaningful sense. Because although the, the typical American Families weekly paycheck has gotten much bigger over the last couple of years, on average it buys much less. How much less? About $4,000 less. Can you imagine what that does to families right now? You have countless Americans who can’t even afford groceries. They’re having to use credit cards. You know, Dan, I just saw a statistic. Half of american families right now can’t afford back to school supplies for their kids. They can’t even afford crayons and notebooks.

This is insane. They’re literally having to put this stuff on a credit card that they can’t pay off. Yeah, we’re talking EJ Antoni, economist, heritage. You’re still at heritage, right? Sorry. Should I still over there? I am for now. We’ll see. I don’t know. Okay, good. I just want to check it out, but I hope they do it well. We love you. And I follow you on social because you’re always ahead of this stuff. You just said something I wanted to kind of reiterate to my audience as to why I believe, believe politically, the economic ramifications of the Biden years have been far worse politically than they were in Obama.

Obama managed to get reelected despite an economy, EJ, that you and I followed that candidly, was probably just as bad. Obama, in eight years, never reached 3% GDP growth. The first president modern history not to be able to do it. Productivity was in the tank. It was really a terrible economy. But Obama managed to get reelected because it was a couple of layers removed. He managed to distance, distance himself from it, excuse me, by blaming greedy corporations and others. That the problem Biden has is inflation is a very unique economic crisis because everybody understands it just by, just by the cash register.

I mean, you can’t hide it. You can’t just go, oh, my gosh, look, you know, we hiked a corporate tax and those greedy corporations, instead of to reinvest in the money, blah, blah, blah, and talk people into a ditch, they experience it every day. They may get a raise at work, but they realize, wow, I can’t afford my insurance bill anymore. I can’t afford my car payment. Inflation is a unique crisis that Biden created through this mile. Oh. Of really horrible decision making. And that’s why people get it. And I think that’s why they’re going to have a real problem pulling the lever for him if they’re not diehard Democrats in this election.

Well, Dan, and I think it’s important to emphasize that this is not simply a Biden problem, this is a Biden Harris problem. She owns this agenda. You know, not only was she the biggest cheerleader for all the runaway spending over the last several years as the vice president of this administration, but also as the president of the Senate, she cast two tie breaking votes for two of the three biggest spending bills we have seen over the last three and a half years. So she bears a trip, tremendous amount of responsibility here. She has to own the inflation crisis because she helped cause it.

And, you know, one other thing that we really need to point out, that these inflation numbers don’t really capture the true cost of living crisis that families are facing today because they ignore regulatory costs. You know, the Trump administration, I don’t think, gets enough credit here for what they did with, with regulatory reform. They reduced regulatory costs on the average family by $2,000 per year every year through their efforts. Conversely, what has happened under the Biden Harris administration? We’ve seen the opposite. We’ve seen regulatory burdens increase by $5,000 per family per year every year. That’s a tremendous additional burden that isn’t even counted in these inflation metrics.

I think that’s important that we all understand that. Folks, what EJ just said, government regulations are effectively attacked. Say, I’ll just give you a quick example. I have this Secret Service coin on my desk, or whatever. It looks like an old badge. Let’s say you work for one of these coin makers and Biden puts out a regulation saying if you make a coin with this type of metal, you’re going to have to pay for an environmental analysis. The environmental analysis could cost ten, $15,000. Candidly, EJ, I’d rather pay a tax that cost me 2000. That regulation, it cost me ten.

So when you talk about things like Trump’s deregulation and his destruction of government red tape, which is a matter of record, you can go look at the Federal register. Compared to Biden, growing the Federal register and just dramatically expanding red tape, these aren’t secondary tertiary costs. This is real money coming out of your business’s wallet and bank account. That is then not going to work to create cheaper products. Exactly. Dan, you’re spot on here. And again, we got to emphasize that when you hear in the news, oh, inflation is down, everything’s fine. Really? Then why do I keep paying more when I fill up my tank or when I put groceries in the backseat? Why is it I’m driving around on bald tires because I can’t afford new ones? Why are these costs still going up when they tell me inflation is down? A lot of that has to do with the fact that they’re not counting many of these costs.

Regulatory burdens, chief among them. Yeah, they’re real. Each year, one more biden era initiative, which, again, no sane person can question, unless you’re a hyper partisan gaslighting lunatic, is the Biden team has not been friendly to a pro energy agenda. They just haven’t. Between lng export restrictions, refinery restrictions, pipeline permitting issues, you know, even Joe Manchin, who’s a Democrat, phony, whatever. But even Manchin tried to push for the permitting, restra, restriction relief. Because if you’re not going to have pipelines, you’re not going to have gases. What are you going to do, transport it by rail? It’s dangerous, it’s laborious.

It doesn’t work. They’ve done this. Energy is fed into every price of every. There’s nothing out there made besides maybe you, John Jay Rambo style, whittling away at a piece of wood to make a spike out of it. Everything’s going to require some form of energy, petrochemicals, everything, but not to mention the plastics that come out of it and everything else. There has not been a more anti energy agenda team than Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. And that’s another imposed tax on America. As their heating bills go up, their gas bills go up. This is a de facto tax, if not a de jure one, right out of the chute.

That’s costing people real money. Money. Dan, you are spot on again here. 100%. Look, you, not only does energy affect the price of everything we do and everything we buy, but in America, because we can get natural gas out of the ground so much cheaper than most of the rest of the world, we actually use that and not oil for a lot of our chemical blend stocks. In other words, we use natural gas to make everything from the polyester fibers in your clothing to the plastic in your cell phone to even components in your car engine and everything in between.

And so what happens is, when you raise an input cost that is as ubiquitous as natural gas, you are going to cause costs to go up throughout the economy. And sure enough, that’s what we’ve seen under this administration. These are the people that killed the Keystone XL pipeline, literally on day one. From the beginning until all the way till today, they have been anti energy. EJ, I know I said was the last question. One more. I got two minutes left. There’s a thing in economics you and I both know called the substitution effect. You know, price of chicken goes up, people buy more beef price beef goes up, they buy pork.

You can substitute. You may not like it, but there’s a way out of it. That’s not the case with energy prices. What you just said is accurate. There’s no way to avoid energy prices if you’re going to restrict energy, like the Biden administration with Harris are committed to, there’s just no way. It’s built into every single thing. That’s right, Dan. And that substitution effect, by the way, that happens not only at the local level, right? It happens not only when the individual consumers choosing, like you mentioned, what kind of meat do I want to buy? It happens at the international level as well.

In other words, when we’re not producing enough energy exports, countries have to turn to sometimes hostile nations like Iran and buy energy Russia. And so now, instead of money going to put Americans to work, you’re putting money into the coffers of the warlords in Iran, and you’re funding terrorism. Right. And it’s just amazing how we’re funding this war in Ukraine. Whatever your position is, I’m not even going to talk about that now. That’s for another day. But we’re funding a war in Ukraine while simultaneously restricting our own natural gas supply to allow others to buy natural gas to Russia to.

We’re like, effectively funding both sides of this war, which is an obscenity. EJ, you’re awesome. They need to follow you. EJ Antoni, he is on social media, on X and elsewhere. Give him a follow if you want to stay way ahead of the curve on the economics news of the day. EJ, we’ll have you back. As always, we, you’re a resident economist on the show. We love you. Thanks for coming on today. Appreciate it. No, my pleasure, Dan. Thank you for having me. You got it. That guy’s one of the best, folks. Please give him a follow on social media.

EJ Antoni, it’s worth your time. Look about. Look at all the numbers he has up there on consumer debt. The economy is worse than you think. You know, I haven’t been dramatic. It’s not the worst we’ve ever seen. I’m never going to engage in hyperbole to spin your wheels. Okay? I’m not going to do that. It’s bad enough that we should vote the right way. I’m just telling you it’s not as bad as some people will tell you. But it’s a lot worse than Biden and Harris are telling you and the media. You look at the numbers and you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about.

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podcast and the noon radio show, things get in my head, in my melon, little like brain worms, and I can’t get them out. And because this is my psychotherapy session and I don’t have a cocaine using Sigmund Freud to help me out here. You are my kind of, you’re my, you’re my release valve, you know, and I genuinely. Okay, serious time. I cannot get over how bad the government is at everything. It’s not just the Secret Service story. I read to you, a tweet from Mike Benz, the great Mike Benz, deep state analyst covering this John Solomon piece about how this guy, who the FBI is alleging, wanted to kill Trump, working with Iran, whether you believe that or not, I mean, it is the FBI and DOJ.

So there’s always reason to be skeptical, right? That not only was the guy on this terror watch list, but not only did we let him in, we let him in with special permission. You’re like, can you idiots. Can you do anything right? Is there a single thing you can do right? I mean, I’m sitting here even during the break, cuz I can’t get this out of my head. I’m sorry. We got an election coming up and the choice has never been clearer. Well, I don’t know, maybe 1984, Reagan, Mondale, but even Clinton, Bob Dole, Ross Perot, there was some crossover, Jim.

You remember that, right? You know, Kamala’s always like, whatever, you know, those like circles that all intersect, there’s always something they all agree on, right? This is one of those elections where there are two completely disparate worldviews, as Thomas Sowell would call them, like a conflict. Divisions, there’s no, no intersection at all. You’ve got communist Kamala Harris and Tampon Tim Walls, right, stolen Valor guy. And then you’ve got Donald Trump and JD Vance. We know because we’re conservatives, what the Trump advance team stands for, because JD Vance, been a senator for a couple of years. He’s got a record and Donald Trump was president for four years.

There’s no mystery. Kamala Harris and Tim Walls. You have this vision of America based on this mythological creature they call the federal government that is somehow this source of goodwill and the hero in the story, but they have no evidence to back it up. There is nothing we can do, right? Not the secret service, not the FBI, not the intel community. Do you notice the intel community? I mean, they. Everything. All of these threats seem to. October 7. How did that. How did we not know? How did we not know them? Isn’t that our job? Like, to know? How do we not know this stuff? Like, the government, they did do health care.

Yeah, they did everything. Screwed up everything. You just keep paying more money for less stuff. Think about this, right? Everything in your life that has been subjected to the principles of non government free markets is better. Flat screen tvs, contacts, Lasik dental services, invisalign. Everything’s better. You get the government involved. Every single thing sucks. Your washing machine. Why is your washing machine suck? Not because people don’t know how to build washing machines. Because the government had to get involved in the washing machine air conditioning business. Now nothing works. You try to turn on, I had a guy, no joke, bro.

I had a cat come over here not that long ago looking at my Washington. Brand new, by the way. Listen, okay? Job pays well, all right? Good. Talking about money, you’re probably a loser. However, it’s important. I got an ice washing machine. It’s not like a billion dollar weapon. Freaking thing was broke in like six months. Guy comes over, he’s like, dude, my washing machine’s from like 1985 or whatever. I’m never getting rid of it. He goes, you know why? It actually works and cleans clothes. I’m like, isn’t this crazy? He’s like, it’s the government with the water restrictions.

Nothing works. Same thing with the air conditioning guy. I got this freaking air conditioner. I don’t even know how much thing costs. It probably costs more than five cars, and the damn thing never works. You guys, like, it’s all these government restrictions on this and Freon, all this other crap. Nothing works anymore. Nothing works. Everything the government touches, it destroys everything. The FBI has a thing called the terror watch list and just arrested a guy who they let in from the terror watch list who supposedly wanted to kill Trump, while the secret service, who’s supposed to keep people from killing Trump, let a guy on a roof who came within a millimeter of killing Trump and murdered a guy and shot two others.

And liberals are running on. You understand that communist Kamala and Tampon Tim are running on more of this. We need more of this in your life. Everything they touch sucks. Think about it. Right? I promise I’m not done with the secret service story, but, folks, I’m on a roll today and I can’t. I’m sorry, man. Everything they touch, they burn to the freaking ground. You ever notice they say all the time they’re like liberals? This is this how stupid liberals, your liberal friends are freaking moronse. They are the dumbest people on planet Earth. They are really stupid because they could look this stuff up and they’d see what I’m saying is true.

But they choose to be stupid. And people who choose to be stupid are dumber than just standard stupid people. They’re like extra stupid. Liberals complain all the time. They’ll say two completely different things. They’ll be like, oh, my gosh, these health care costs are out of control. We got to get them under control. Health care is out of control. Out of control. And then they say the same thing about education. Man, these college costs, Jim, they’re out of control. They’re unbelievable. This is incredible. Notice everything else in your life subject to the free market’s gone down in cost.

Flat screen tvs again. Lasik, surgery, fear. Right. It’s all gone down. Jim made a shocking analysis there. But, Dan, that’s weird. The government in the government got a heavy kind of footprint in both of those spaces. You just said costs are out of control. Yeah, liberals want more. Because when the government starts paying for stuff, air quotes with your money, nobody cares about the cost or the quality at all. Like, not even a little bit. That’s why costs are out of control. And liberals want more of this. Liberals will complain to other liberals about the costs of health care and college education.

And when you say to them, a liberal moron, do you, Mister Liberal Mora, do you think it’s a coincidence that healthcare and education is the two spaces where the government you love has the biggest footprint? And that may have something to do with the fact that the costs are totally mismanaged. They’re like, I didn’t get that, man. Of course you didn’t get it because you’re stupid. Because you’re a stupid person. And I don’t like stupid people. And I got to tell you something. I’m not running for office, man. You’re not going to convert any liberal. I don’t care.

I’m done trying to convert stupid people who are communists. I’m done. I’m trying to get people who are not communists motivated to know the fight we’re fighting, which is against stupid communists. That’ll throw you in a gulag tomorrow. You think these people want to be convinced? They know absolutely, categorically what I just said is true and they don’t care. Look it up. What the government spends. Yeah. Do you have that? Oh, you do? Yeah. You want to hear gold? You want to hear gold right now? Now, liberals, this is not for you. Your, you guys are stupid.

Please turn off the radio show. This will only hurt your feelings because you’re too dumb to ingest this. Okay? That’s what we call it in the business, ingesting content. You know, you’re too stupid for this. This is why everything the government touches, it burns to the ground. There is zero accountability in government at all. When you are in the private sector or the free market, when you spend money, the cost of what you’re buying matters because it’s your money, so you care about what it costs. And the quality of what you’re buying matters too because you’re buying something for you so you don’t want to buy crap.

Do you understand, you liberal imbeciles, that when government takes other people’s money and spends it on other people, that neither one of those things matter and will never matter? Listen to Milton Friedman, the late, great Milton Friedman and an economic genius. Explain exactly this again. Liberals tune out. You’re too dumb for this. Smart people, listen to this. This is why government sucks. And this is another reason, again, why the secret service cannot be fixed right now. You give that contract to a private security company, had been fired, we would add a new one in. You’re stuck with the same stuff.

Check this out. Well, you know, you can spend your own money on yourself. And when you spend your own money on yourself, you’re very careful of what you spend it on. And you make sure that you get the most for your dollar. You can spend your own money on somebody else. You give gifts to other people. You take people out to dinner. And when you spend your own money on somebody else, you’re very careful that you don’t spend too much. You try to keep down the amount you spend, but you don’t worry very much about what the other fellow is getting from it.

You don’t pay anything like as much attention to the gifts you buy for other people as to the things you buy for yourself. Or you can spend somebody else’s money as when you’re spending the government’s money. I say that the government’s money, the taxpayer’s money, which the government has control over. Now you’re spending somebody else’s money. Let’s say you’re spending your boss’s money. You’re out to lunch on an expense account, but you’re spending it on yourself. You’re very careful that you get good things for your money. You try to have a good lunch and pick the right things, but you’re not very much worried about whether you get the cheapest.

Spend all you want, spend all you want and you’ll be careless. What happens when you spend somebody else’s money on somebody else? You’re a distributor of welfare funds. Well, you’re interested in making your own life as good as you can. And most people have humane instincts and want to do the best they can, but you’re not going to be anything like as careful in spending somebody else’s money on somebody else. So there are four ways in which you can spend money, folks, if you understand that, I mean, if you really understand that, I don’t mean you listen, but you heard it.

Those aren’t the same thing. If you heard that, you can’t possibly be a liberal. You can’t. You could be a social liberal. You may just. Bill Maher said it. Bill, remember Bill Mar said, he’s like, yeah, abortions, killing babies. I’m for that. Horrible, disgusting, sinful, immoral. However, he was honest. If you were an economic liberal, you can’t. You listen to that. You can’t hear it. You’re incapable. Your brain cannot process what he just said. I didn’t really intend to make this an economic show. It’s not. This show is going to be about what happened with the Secret Service.

But you were never going to understand why. You will never get change within the Secret Service, the FBI or anywhere else unless you understand that the cost of the Secret Service doesn’t matter. It’s not their money. Trump’s not spending his money on it. It’s the government’s money. Either is Biden or Harris or anyone else. And equality doesn’t matter because most of these guys say the Secret service director and all these other people, it’s not even, it’s not even their lives at risk. It’s someone else’s. I assure you right now, if someone told them tomorrow, something is going to happen to you, God forbid someone’s going to attack you tomorrow, and you’re going to need a guy with first responder skills to do CPR on you.

I promise you, they would go hunt down some bodyguard who had CPR skills, but because it’s the Secret Service and cost and quality don’t matter because the government doesn’t care about anything, can’t do anything right. They stick anybody around the president, they don’t care. And that’s why you got what you hey, thanks for listening to podcast. Be sure to tune into the show every single weekday 11:00 a.m. eastern time live. We’re the biggest live stream in the world for conservative politics. We’d love to have you join us rumble.com Bangino, or download the rumble app. Give us a follow on Apple and Spotify, too.

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