Signs of a Total Societal COLLAPSE and RENEWAL!!! Dr. Steve Turley

➡ Dr. Steve Turley discusses how some people say that the Democrats want to make the civilian leader of the military less powerful, which is worrying. They are also being accused of not caring about the rules of the country or the people, and of wanting to bring in more immigrants to replace the current people. The text also talks about a theory that societies change over time. It starts with them being very religious and following traditions, then they become less religious, and finally, they might lose their good values. But this can lead to a time of new beginnings and getting back to traditional ways.

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All right, what’s the scoop on the NBC News report from 07:00 a. m. Sunday saying that the Democrats are actively seeking to weaken civilian control of the military in the fear that Trump is going to have them arrested or order an assassination or something of that kind. So I, yeah, I haven’t read up enough on it to really comment competently, but that’s what I was talking about earlier.

And Terry, you put it so much better than I did. That was weakened. Civilian in control over the military. That’s key. In other words, our military is a civilian controlled military. We do not have a general ultimately in charge of our military. We have a member of the people, somebody we voted in. They are in charge, ultimately, the military. Yes. They’re trying to apparently create protocols that would not allow for the commander in chief, the civilian based head of our military, to have ultimate command and control authority.

And that is horrifying. But again, Democrats don’t care. They don’t care about the constitution. They don’t care about you. As a matter of fact, they hate you. They want to replace you, trying to replace you right now with millions of illegal immigrants because at least they think they’ll be compliant. I think they’re wrong in that. Again, they’re very stupid. That’s the other thing. But they’re also very, anyway, so that’s about as much as I can comment on at this point until I do the research needed to really understand what the nuances are of that.

Erin Greenway has a longer question. Dr. Steve, my question refers to your observations regarding the divide between the ruling class and the ruled. I want you to know that I see what you’re seeing. However, many christian voices, including Orthodox, say that Christ’s return is close coming from an evangelical background. If the world is moving away from an elite controlled system, and if Christ’s return is truly imminent, then how would an antichrist truly be able to take the control of the world stage? Wow.

Okay, Aaron, you’re giving me some powerful eschatology. Yeah. Yeah. All right. How do I want to answer this in a way that doesn’t get too complex and satisfies everything you just said? So in many ways, I have a theory of society and how society and culture functions that I get from Pittarim Sorakin, the russian sociologist who ended up coming over to the United States. I believe it was at Harvard universities.

Brilliant sociologist. And the rise of a post secular society, post secular world, is causing a lot of scholars to reevaluate Sorakin’s theory of social order in society. What sorrican basically argued is that societies begin, particularly even in a small way, but they begin in these, in a period of civilizational ideationalism, where religion and tradition and the sense of the holy pervade society very strongly. But then over time, society ends up, whether it’s because the material conditions or making people more materialist or whatever, society goes into an idealist period where religious ideas and institutions are still relevant, but more, for lack of better term, more secular worldly institutions begin to have almost an equal relevance.

And then inevitably, societies end up in what’s called a sensate stage. And that’s where they become morally degenerate. And that’s where religious ideals and so forth have lost all of their force and all of their strength, and the population loses its way. But what makes Sorakin so interesting is he saw not the total destruction of that society. That can happen. The society can fall apart. What he tended to see, though, is there’s a period of renewal, there is a period of restoration, there’s a period of revival, and that reawakens the civilization.

And the civilization has a new birth, and then it often goes through those stages again. Now, Sorkin is coming from a russian orthodox perspective of the world. And if you’ll notice, there is a kind of very fascinating sort of pattern, biblical pattern, that you’re seeing there. Israel is born and they’re faithful, and it climaxes with the davidic kingdom and Solomon and so forth. But then all of a sudden you start seeing some wickedness starting to come in.

And then the society degenerates fully and they fall into exile. And then there’s a renewal that comes in where the messianic hopes and the like. There seems to be a structure like that throughout the Bible. So he seems to be on to a biblical conception of society. And then, if you want to see it really, like, for lack of better term, the magic here, there’s even a real christological dimension where you have the incarnation and the glory of Christ is seen by the magi and the shepherds and so on and so forth.

And then you have the life of Christ play out with all of its ambiguities. Some are with him, some are against him, blah, blah, blah. And then, of course, you have the hour shadows, you have the Judas, you have the darkness, you have the cross and the death of Christ and the darkness of all things. But then what happens? Resurrection. And that’s exactly how Russians today, the russian church, sees what happened to Russia.

The communist period was its sensate period, its death period, as it were. And now they’re rising again. Scholars have argued this is sort of what we’ve seen with Christendom as a whole, where Christendom was like the birth and life of Christ, and then the enlightenment comes in scientific rationalism, technocracy, globalism and so forth. Death, darkness. And now what are we seeing today in this new post second world? We’re seeing resurrection.

We’re seeing the spring tide of christian society returning, and just religiosity returning. The Hindus will call it Satyuga, where Kali Yuga was the age of darkness and vice, and now the age of wisdom and virtues returning. So what I’m giving to you is I’m giving you both a theoretical and a theological overlap of the way society plays itself out in that framework. As first John says, there is an antichrist, but even now there are, as John first John letter says, there are many antichrists.

So the great tribulation, I would argue, like in Matthew 24, happened in 70 AD, it was the destruction of the temple. Luke, if I recall, it’s Luke 21, makes it very clear that when you see the armies and the insignia of the eagle, the Romans circling the temple and surrounding Jerusalem, then you know the hours there. I don’t think he’s talking about the future per se. It was future for them, but I think it was the immediate future on 70 AD and the destruction of Jerusalem.

But that is also seen because God works out as we see the life of Christ, in types, in topologies. So David is a type of Christ, and Solomon is a type of Christ, and the temple is a type of Christ in terms of Christ’s body, with the fullness of God dwelling therein. And Rome is a type of Babylon and so forth. So it works in what are called topologies.

And those topologies ultimately find their fulfillment in and through Christ. Even the whole of the created order is a type of the logos, the Christ who holds it all together. John, chapter one, and Colossians 115 is the image of the visible God, the first born over all creation. For in him all things cohere is the Son of God, second person Trinity, in whom the whole of the created order coheres.

So then we could even go deeper. And so you have an orthodox theology. The idea of the incarnation being the 8th day of creation, the restoration of creation, Christ taking on the human or the Son taking on the human body forever, is God entering into his physical creation, which is the climactic, creative moment, the ultimate, and, of course, the death and then resurrection, the restoration of all things being the fulfillment of that climax.

All of that’s to say that there are cycles going on, but they’re leading somewhere. It’s not just an endless cycle, it’s going somewhere, to an ultimate return of Christ, bodily return of Christ, restoration of the cosmos, resurrection of the dead. Christ embodies the human being, and so therefore, all humans are raised. And, of course, then there is a judgment. But all of that’s to say, this is the pattern that I see happening.

And who’s to say, as it were, that this return of Christ that we see, all these events happening are pointing to the actual, ultimate, physical return, the last act, as it were, of this side of heaven’s history? Who’s to say that is happening now? It could be, like in 70 AD, typological outworkings that point to that ultimate event, that point to an ultimate antichrist preceding him and so forth, but are happening now at more typological levels, where you have many antichrists and a sense you have a return of Christ, but in the restoration of traditionalist society, civilizationalist society, all over the world, but as it’s all ultimately working to that end moment that no man on earth knows the day or the time of, so there you go.

That’s the theoretical and theological outworking I do tend to see. My eschatology tends to be cyclical, in accordance with a biblical pattern as well as a sociological pattern. And I think we are always getting closer and closer and closer to that end time when Christ does finally return. But until then, I think you have lots of falls, I think you have lots of antichrist, and I think you have lots of restorations and returns, but all typological, pointing to the ultimate.

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