Get this crap out of your head that you know we’re going to inflict a defeat on Russia like they’ve never been defeated before. That’s wrong, okay? That’s not what’s going to happen. You know, I only spent 30 years in the Navy. What the hell do I know? But Mr. Trump, sir, if you’re listening, book the loss, okay? It’s not your loss, it’s Biden’s loss. We won’t make America great and healthy by getting in a nuclear war. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Paradigm Press’s YouTube channel. My name is Sean Rigg, I’m the editor of Rude Awakening. And today I am joined by my good friend and contributing editor of the Rude himself, Byron King.

How are you today, Byron? Very well, Sean, thank you. It’s good to be here. Glad for everybody who’s out there watching. Thank you. It’s always great to be with you and to hear your great stories. And what is fantastic, or well, maybe not fantastic for the world, but fantastic for this particular video is that the by play now between NATO, America, the UK versus Russia and or at least sympathizers has taken, you know, it’s got to another level now and it really escalated a bit last week. So we want to talk about that. And because you are, you know, not, are you only a Harvard educated geologist, you’re a naval aviator, you’re a lawyer, you’ve got this whole toolkit for us.

So I really want to dig in deep there. So if you could, could you just give us an overview of what happened last week that created this incredible escalation? Yes. And you use the word fantastic. And that to me what rang in my head was like the fantasy nature of it. I mean, can you believe what is happening? And you know, I mean, for, for anybody who has been busy with life and I understand you’ve got things happen and everything, but I mean, this is as we speak today, you know, it’s the couple days before us Thanksgiving, you know, it’s November 26th.

And last week, you know, last weekend, the 16th, 17th, 15th, 16th, 17th of November, Joe Biden got on the big blue jet and flew down to South America and he went to, I guess he was in Peru at this G20 meeting. And you know, it was funny because like he’s wandering around all those, all the heads of state are getting their photos taken and Biden’s off somewhere doing whatever. He didn’t get his photo taken in the big group photos. Kind of like, man, you know, like, hello, you’re the president of The United States. And you missed.

You missed your big shot there, you know, Then he flies off to the, I was going to say the jungles of Brazil. That’s an old. To the rainforest of Brazil. And in front of this very staged, you know, rainforest setting, he’s talking about, oh, you know, we’re here to save the rainforest and all that, you know. Okay, there you go. Thank you, thank you, thank you, President Biden. We all want to save the rainforest. We really appreciate that. That’s wonderful. Okay. He’s down in the rainforest saving the rainforest up in Washington, D.C. last weekend. Somehow, out of the bowels and out of the small intestine of the deep state comes this new dog that, oh, we’re going to let the Ukrainians fire these things called ATACMs.

ATACMs, Army Tactical Missile System. Attack them. Army, their missiles, they’re big things. They’re like 3ft wide and, you know, 20 some feet long. And we’re going to let them fire these things. They have a range of about, you know, 200 miles, give or take. You know, we’re going to let them fire them into the territory of Russia. Up to now, those attacks have been, you can shoot them ATACMs, but you can shoot them at the Russians who are inside of the former boundaries of Ukraine, you know, but don’t you be shooting them at the Russian Federation.

Federation, don’t touch that Russian soil with these American missiles. Okay, well, last weekend, somebody, somewhere, somehow, you know, the deep state, Anthony Blinken Sullivan, whatever Jake Sullivan said, okay, yeah, it’s all right. You guys can shoot them into Russia. So. So Biden’s in the jungles of Brazil, you know, and at this point, a week and a half later, the Defense Department has denied that they had any input to it. We didn’t. I didn’t quite know. They’re not quite sure about that. But they’re washing their hands saying, oh, no, the dod, we did not do that. You know, this was the.

This was the State Department and the National Security Council, so that, you know, you say, well, what’s the big deal? Who cares if American missiles, you know, fly and hit Russia? Well, first of all, the Russians care. You know, they have made no secret of it at all. We do not want your American weapons hitting Russia because that’s, you know, like an act of war, you know. And the second thing is that you can’t even plausibly deny that it’s not you doing it, because these ATACMs are very sophisticated weapons, you know, and, you know, for the range that they have.

You need satellite. It’s looking. You need satellites that look down. You need targeting. You need, you know, all sorts of signal processing, lots of intel, all the software. You don’t learn how to shoot atacms at the local junior college down the road there. You, you don’t. You only learn that going to very, very special schools in the United States Army. And the only people who know how to do this are like, us People and maybe some, some, you know, NATO like, you know, Germany, Britain, maybe those guys, you know. But, but if a U.S. army, U.S.

america, United States of America missile hits Russia, it’s you Americans who did it. And the Russians have said, in a matter as a matter of law, or as a matter of law, if you fire one of your missiles and it hits our soil, we consider that an act of war. Now you can say, well, that. Well, no, no, no, don’t, no, don’t, don’t do that. Don’t think that’s how they think. Okay? Don’t, don’t project your fantasies, speaking of, onto them. That’s what they think. That’s what they’re saying. You shoot at us, it’s an act of war, and we’re going to respond in kind.

So last, I guess, Sunday, the word came out, okay, you Ukrainians, it’s okay for you to fire those attackers into Russia. So on Tuesday, how fast? My goodness, things happen fast. You know, it’s almost as if it was wired, but, you know, you never know. The Ukrainians fired. I have heard 12 ATACMs. ATACMs into Russia. Now the Russians, you know, they’re expecting this to happen. And so they’ve got their radars and they’re looking around. They see these things coming at them. They have exceptionally good air defense systems. They. Pew, pew, pew. You know, they shoot down 11 of them.

The 12th one kind of gets close to the target and, you know, but. And it hits, but it doesn’t do any damage because they, they killed it in the terminal phase. We could talk all day about Russian air defense. I could talk all day about Russian air defense. I don’t know that the viewers out there want to hear it, but it’s really good. Okay? They, I mean, you. Anybody who says Russia is a gas station with nuclear missiles is completely stupid. And you should just completely discount everything that comes out of their mouth afterwards. That is absolutely a sense of disdain towards Russia, the Russian people, the Russian education system, the whole Russian culture that is just.

That just really betrays a person’s ignorance. I mean, you must be A complete freaking moron to say that and believe that and have that sort of feeling in your gut. I mean, the Russians invented chemistry. They invented the periodic table, they invented half of math. The joke in American universities is that really smart Chinese kids come to the US So they can study math and physics under Russian professors. You know, it’s not like, you know, so anyhow, Russia is more than a gas station with nuclear weapons. They have really good air defenses as well, you know, okay? They do radar like nobody’s business.

They do electronic warfare like nobody’s business. You know, they do math, they do physics. They do this stuff, and they do it really well. Okay? You better, you know, you don’t have to like them, but you better freaking respect them. I said freaking. I said freaking. Not the other word, but. But I mean, you better freaking respect them, okay? Don’t be stupid. Really, if you’re out there, don’t be stupid, okay? Get smart about this. They’re good, all right? They’re very, very good. And respect your opponent. How good are they? How good are. I’m glad you asked because the Ukrainians fired these U.

S. Missiles at Russia on Tuesday. And on Thursday, late in the evening, two days later, the Russians fired one missile back. Now, not just any old missile, it was an intermediate range ballistic missile, an irbm, not an intercontinental missile. Not like one of these big things that you fire from Russia and can hit, you know, like Washington or Texas or, you know, Los Angeles or something, you know. No, intermediate range missile, you know, depends. You know, there’s a definition for what these things are. One missile, okay? They fire the missile from, from a. From a range in Russia.

It’s a test range, okay? And this is what I’ve found out in the last couple of days. We, USA knew about something was going on because it was a test range where we have satellites that are going over this test range all the time. They’re like, oh, hey, what’s going on down there? You know, when, when they roll something out, it’s going, hey, what do they got? What’s going on? They, they roll things, we watch them like a hawk, okay? The satellites, the electronic signals intelligence, all that stuff. You know, all that stuff. I’m really being generous here by even saying that much.

We watch them like crazy. They roll it out and then a couple of things happen and don’t happen. You know, they’re prepping this missile for launch. We see that. But they’re not prepping it with anything nuclear because you know that, you know, when people are doing Nuclear stuff, because there’s certain things that happen. You know, there’s certain security protocols, there’s certain systems that get fired up. There’s certain signals that you can pick. But they bring this missile out and they put it on, you know, put on. They. It’s on a mobile system. It’s on a truck, you know, so they drive it out in a truck, they raise it up, and it’s there, okay? 30 minutes before the launch, the Russians literally get on the phone and they call Washington, D.C.

and they say, per the, you know, per the Ms. For various treaties that we have here, I’m paraphrasing it, but we’re going to launch a missile in 30 minutes. And now, this is to avoid confusion, because when the satellite detects, you know, the big hot plume of the rocket firing and everything, you know, people go to general quarters there. It’s kind of like, oh, no, they’re shooting a missile, you know. Well, you know, if it’s a test launch, you know, you tell people we’re going to be testing the launch. Like when we fire, we fire a rocket from Cape Canaveral or Vandenberg or something, we tell the Russians just.

So when they see the hot plume of gas, that they don’t think we’re trying to, you know, start World War 3, okay? So they fire this missile. Up it goes, flies west, you know, and all this energy is coming out the back of the missile. You know, it’s going to go fast, fast, fast, fast, fast. I’m going really, really fast. I’m a rocket, you know, I’m a rocket man, you know, rocket man. Going fast, fast. Okay? The rocket does its thing. It gets up into orbit and boop, you know, okay, the rocket goes away. Okay, now this is your, what they call the bus, this thing here.

This is the bus, okay? Flying through, this guy turns around, and now the bus has six, call it warheads on it, you know, multiple independent targetable reentry vehicles, MIRVs, you know, and it’s flying through the sky. Now, this is where it really gets interesting. This is where Russian math and physics and chemistry, you know, shows its stuff, okay? So all these six things they set, these six little guys, they separate from the bus, okay? And now it’s now on a U.S. multiple reentry vehicle, multiple independent reentry vehicle bus. They sort of. They fall ballistically. They just go like that.

You know, gravity hauls them down first. Now, apparently each one of these things was its own rocket, its own guided rocket. And it starts shooting them down. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Shoots them down, you know. So six items, let’s call them items, come down out of the sky. Now, each one of these items, each one breaks into six pieces. We call them sub munitions. Sub munitions. Like, you know, each one of these things breaks into submunitions and they hit a target in Ukraine, and we’ll talk about that target in a minute here.

But hold that thought, hold that thought. But they hit the target. Boom, boom, boom. So you probably saw, you may have seen the video of these things coming through the sky. These really bright lights going like, pew, pew, pew, through the clouds. You know, the cloud cover was about 2000ft above the ground. 17, 16, 1700 meters, cloud cover above the ground. And you saw these things coming through. It was totally cool optically. Look it up on YouTube or find, you know, the image of these things coming through the sky because it was recorded by many, many, many cameras.

And it’s. There are many videos out there, but. But instead of just one item coming through the cl, each of these six things broke into six others. So we had 36 munitions coming down really fast, and they’re going, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Then there’s a few seconds, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You know? You know, and they hit. They had 36 hits. Now, when they hit, obviously they didn’t explode. There was no nuclear explosion. We’d know about that. You know, no big flash, no Hiroshima, no, you know, no zara bomba or anything like that, you know, but when they hit, they didn’t even explode.

Like, you know, like a bomb hits kaboom. No, they didn’t do that. You know, they hit and they penetrated the ground. And then it was sort of like, now what? You know, well, it happened at night, so, you know, you couldn’t really see the, you know, what was coming up. But apparently each one of these things hit the ground in a way and in a sequence, in a very, very rapid sequence, putting all this energy into the ground, basically causing a giant earthquake, you might say. And the target was completely destroyed. Now, the Ukrainians have put a big lid on everything.

Nobody in, nobody out, except for certain intel people, you know, and we haven’t seen any satellite photos. I think what the Russians are doing is they might be waiting for the weather to get better, but they might also be saying, okay, we have photos of this, but we’re going to wait until the Ukrainians in the West Photoshop something of, you know, like, it’ll be like Some. Some doghouse or some outhouse or some, you know, some little log cabin someplace. Oh, they blew up the log cabin? No, no, no. That gets into what it was that they blew up.

So the question is, what were these things, huh? Well, there’s an old sort of, you know, science fictiony thing about, you know, US Weapons is called the rods from God. You know, that you can take a piece, take a big rod, basically like a curtain rod, you know, bigger than a curtain. Right. Tungsten rod, Right. Yeah. The tungsten, which is really dense, and you fire it down, and the kinetic energy is such that when you put it into the ground, you know, it’ll create a lot of problems. And now there’s something to that. And nobody really knows except for the Russians, and they’re not telling us, you know, but it would not surprise me if the Russians made, you know, metal slugs, you might say, out of tungsten.

This. This here is one pound of tungsten. It’s very dense. It’s one of the. It’s dense. Let’s see, 19.3 grams per cubic centimeter by comparison. This is a pound of titanium. Like, this is super strong titanium. This is a pound of tungsten. You say, why are they different sizes? Because they’re about the same, you know, width and everything. Why is one so much bigger than the other? Well, because tungsten is about 4 times 4 and a half, 3 and a half to 4 times the density of titanium. So this is 3 and a half to 4 times 3 and a half to 4 times THE SIZE of this guy.

But if you take. And I’m not saying it was tungsten, I don’t know, but it was probably something like tungsten, some alloy of tungsten. Add something else into it, whatever, a metal slug. Now we get back to that part about, you know, the rocket, you know, which was flying up there, all that energy in the rocket was going into motion, you know, creating kinetic energy. I mean, the rocket fuel is potential energy. The motion is kinetic energy. I release my. I release my bus, you know, with my little guys in it, and then they shoot their.

They shoot their six warheads down there. And then the warheads break into six submunitions, and each one of them has a rocket. So you’re putting a lot of energy into this slug of metal here. And it hits the ground. And it doesn’t just hit the ground, it hits the ground like six at a time. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. You know, so you’re creating a resonance pattern. You’re creating like a geophysical multiplier to the earthquake energy, you know, and that’s why you shake these things up. That’s why, you know, you fracture the rock, you pulverize the concrete, you shake down the walls and stuff like that.

There were a couple of accounts that came out of Ukraine that, you know, people went to. There’s nothing there anymore. It’s all dust, it’s all rubble, it’s all, it’s all destroyed, everything. And so now this is not a nuclear weapon. And it’s barely a conventional weapon. I mean, in the sense that there’s no high explosive to it, you know, by comparison. I wrote an article about this which will be coming out very soon in the Record Strategic Intelligence where I actually did some physics. You take a 2,000 pound bomb, a US Mark 84, 2,000 pound bomb, you know, the Air Force has them, the Navy, the Marine Corps, you know, it’s about, you know, 18 inches at its widest.

It’s about 12 foot long. It weighs about 2,000 pounds, a little more, you know, depending on what kind of fins and what kind of guidance thing you put up front and everything. Trust me on this. You, you, when this thing blows up, if you do the physics and you do the thermodynamics, it’s about 200 mega joules of energy. We’ll talk about, we’re talking physics here. But just 2, 200, keep that, keep that number, 200 megajoules of energy. Okay? If I take a 100 kilogram slug of tungsten and I accelerate it to Mach 11, let’s say, and I shoot it down out of the sky, you know, and it hits the ground, it’s over 600 megajoules of energy.

So that slug of energy from that, from that rod, from God, so to speak, that slug of energy is three times the energy release of a 2,000 pound bomb. So in the sense that, you know, 36 of these guys hit the ground, that would be like what, 108, you know, 2,000 pound bombs hitting the target. 108, 2,000 pound bombs, that would be like three B52s, you know, an arc light arc, what they call an arc light strike, you know, three B52s, 1, 2, 3. Dropping an entire stick of bombs all hitting the target at the same time, putting that much energy into the target.

So, so that, and this is just really rough math. Don’t you know, I mean, you go check the physics if you want. I don’t know the exact, you know, numbers or anything else. But anyhow, the target was destroyed and if you’re, if you’re still with me, if you haven’t gone up, let’s talk about that target. Let’s talk about that target. Why? What were they hitting? What they, what’d they bomb? You know, what is so important that you would want to take a missile like that? Now, first of all, go back to the beginning. Shoot the ATACMS at Russia.

You hit Russian soil, we’re mad. We’re going to respond with one missile, one weapon system, one attack, and it’s not nuclear. And they gave us 30 minutes warning and you know, we just get all the people out of there, you know, everybody who can save yourselves, you know, and, and then, and then the bombs come in. So, so what did they blow up? It’s a, it’s an, it’s an industrial facility that dates from the 1940s and 50s in terms of when it was like really constructed in Dnipro. Proprietor Dnipropetrovsk. It’s called the Dnipro Mash, the Dnipro Machine building complex or whatever.

It’s a consolidation of a bunch of Russian words. Okay, my, my. I mean, I can read it better than I can speak it, I guess. Better to need to practice more. The, this facility was, they started construction on. It’s, it’s an old industrial facility from way back. But when the, when the Red army kicked the Germans out back in 1944 in this area, they started to rebuild this industrial facility. And they built it as a, as a massive, massive Soviet level industrial complex. You know, they could do anything. You know, I mean, they built tanks, they built artillery, they built engines, all sorts of stuff.

By the 1950s and the early 50s, they converted it into a missile production facility. And the Dnipro Mash, the Dnipro Machine Company was the main source of building missiles and intercontinental missiles for the Soviet Union. Back in the Soviet days. They turned out about 100 big long ICBM missiles per year. This thing is huge. This thing is gigantic. It’s about, call it maybe a mile and a half this way and about a mile that way. I mean, it’s, you know, it’s huge. It’s a, it’s, you know, one and a half square miles of nothing but industrial complex.

It’s got its own rail yards, it had its own bus routes to take people around. It employed tens of thousands of people in its heyday. It had machine shops, they could do metallurgy, they could bend metal, they could build things. They built rocket engines, they built electronics, they built electronic warfare systems, they built warheads they built satellites at this facility in the days of the Soviet Union. So the Soviet Union fell apart in 1991, and the Ukrainians took it over and, you know, the country was broke and everybody’s broke and, you know, people weren’t getting paid for six months at a time, that kind of thing.

And, you know, along the way, the US and the west, you know, they got in there and they did a lot of intel on it, you know. But the, but in the 1990s, the good old days of the 90s, you know, the USA, NASA, you know, they funded some money in there, okay, build us some rockets. I mean, some of the International Space Station, it was built there, you know, some of the components to it. The. But, but then along the way, you know, the Ukrainians kept using it. They were, they were building rockets for a while for Roscosmos.

They, the Ukrainians were building rockets for the Russian version of NASA, you know, and then that fell apart when Russian, Ukrainian relations started to fall apart. Well, certainly after 2014, let’s say. I don’t want to get too deep into the weeds here, but this is a very, very important complex. It made very serious engineering, very serious machine building capabilities. And now maybe a month or so ago, Zelensky. Zelensky, President Zelensky of Ukraine, although he’s not the president anymore, his term expired last May, and he’s still sort of holding power because it’s like, hey, I’m in charge and we’re not going to have elections, so I’m going to stay in charge.

I mean, dictator raiders, you know, think like that, you know. And so, so he said, he said, those Russians better watch out because we’re going to build missiles and shoot missiles at Russia. Okay, yeah, good luck with that, pal. You know, I mean, if nothing else, you just signed the death warrant for your missile building facility. So anyhow, from what we know, the Russians, you know, they fired, you know, they, you know, they fired their missile. You know, off came the warhead, warhead bus, you know, down came the, the rods from God, you know, the tungsten penetrators, whatever they were.

You know what, we don’t know exactly what they were, but I’m just sort of, you know, kind of going on what we can speculate intelligently about, and this facility is destroyed. I mean, there were this facility which was built by Stalin in the 40s and 50s and then upgraded through the Soviet days. This thing was built to fight a nuclear war. There were bunkers, there are tunnels that are a couple of hundred Feet below the ground. I mean, we’ve had intelligence people go there and you know, and so we know, we know a lot about the facility and the Russians completely destroyed it and erect it with no nuclear, nuclear flash or anything.

So that I guess the last point I want to make is that, you know, was the US and as the West. Were we surprised by this Russian missile? Yeah, you better freaking believe we were. I mean, this is the kind of thing we kind of knew maybe. Yeah, they sort of had. They’re working on something. But they’re crazy Russians, you know, they’re. They’re always working on something, aren’t they? You know, but I don’t think any. I think there’s a lot of people in the Pentagon, intelligence services, whatever, who first of all, they may not be smart enough to even process what just happened, you know, I mean, I don’t, I don’t want to be, you know, I don’t want to be jerky about it.

Maybe they are smart enough to process it, you know, but they had better think really hard and process harder, you know, because we just got shown, we, the west usa, we just got shown a weapons capability that I don’t think anybody has felt that level of shock since, let’s say, oh, July 16, 1945, you know, at Trinity, New Mexico when, you know, when Oppenheimer’s device, when his gadget actually exploded and worked, it’s kind of like, holy smokes. I mean, this damn thing works. Yeah, this is, this is a total game changer, you know. Do the Russians have a whole lot of them? I don’t know.

The Russians probably the Russians know and they’re not talking. If they’ve used one of them, it means they probably have more. And if they have more, it means they probably have components to build even more. And now that it works, they’re going to build a whole lot of them, you know. And so he said, well, we’re going to build some of them too. Yeah, good luck, you know, I mean, and I mean that. Good luck. I mean, we’re going to, you know, as far as I know, and I have no security clearance anymore. It’s been long time since I’ve delved into this stuff, but I have never heard of any active US program to come up with a similar system like this.

I mean, if we have one, maybe, maybe it’s out in some tunnel in Nevada someplace, I don’t know. But I’ve never heard of any US system comparable to this. And nobody who I know has ever heard of any system like this. And I know a lot of people. And so. So this. This is a total game changer. So. So I guess it gets back to your original point. You know, Biden’s on. Biden’s on the way out. Another whatever, 50 days or something, and he’s gone. His history, he’s toast, you know, and he’s down in the jungles of Brazil talking about saving the rainforest.

And then his people in Washington, you know, these. These crazy, nutty, you know, people who never served a day in the military, they probably never took a physics course. You know, I’d like to see their grade in physics. Okay. You know, and tell me what your grade was in Physics 1, and I’ll talk with you. You know, and they’re saying, let’s shoot missiles at Russia. And the Russians are like, if you do that, that’s an act of war. And then they fire back. And they say, if you really want to get into this, this is what we got, you know, so this is where we stand.

Here we are. It’s. It’s. Yeah. If we can get into the politics of it just for a second. That is a great, great summary of all the military stuff. Thank you so much for that. But, like, one thing that I’m. I mean, listen, Democrats tend to be shameless nowadays, but they were, as far as I can see. And I’m only sitting in my house in Italy, but from here, it looked like they got resoundingly rebuked in the election. They got blown out. They lost the popular vote. They lost the electoral college by a landslide. It’s not like it wasn’t close.

I mean, Trump has a clear mandate to change things. Joe Biden. Let’s not blame this on Joe Biden or even Kamala herself. She doesn’t know what’s going on either. Joe Biden’s wandering around in the jungles, like you said. Why is the Biden administration or Deep State or whatever glob is running the United States right now? Why were they so happy to escalate again? I think your point was well made about the DoD going, not us, like this. This looks like now even the mill, almost the military industrial complex is kind of going, hey, guys, not us.

We saw that thing. Original stands. It actually means hazel tree, the thing that produces hazelnuts. It’s the only thing that’s not tough about the thing, if you ask me. But you know that they’re basically, you know, they’ve escalated. DOD’s pulling away. Go, not on us. Which to me says, I don’t think we have the capability to strike back. I think you’re right about that. Why are they escalating? What is their thinking right now? Like, hey, let’s poke the bear. Good idea. Why do they think that’s a good idea? Well, part of it just has to do with the idea that they lost, and they’re about to lose power and not just lose the presidency, but lose the House.

They’ve lost the House, lost the Senate. I mean, the House is like, this close. And then Trump keeps pulling people out of the House to staff his administration with. It’s kind of like you’re going to. You’re going to draft enough people that you’re going to lose the majority in the House. Oh, we’ll have special elections. Guess what? The Democrats tend to win these special elections. They pour money into it. And they know how to. They know how to. They know how to win elections, you know, when they want to, if you know what I mean, and so be careful about that.

But, but so, first of all, there’s this visceral, visceral hatred towards Trump that, you know, back when he was, you know, just a New York real estate guy and a celebrity and TV guy on the Apprentice. Yeah, he was great. He was toast to the town. They all, you know, he donated money to Democrats. He donated money to Kamala when she was running for Attorney General of California. They loved it. They always cashed his checks. You know, they cashed his check. And, you know, Chuck Schumer used to go, Trump tells his story. Chuck Schumer used to come to his office and just, you know, sit there in front of him and, you know, beg for campaign donations and beg for an endorsement, you know, back when Schumer was a congressman and then, you know, as a senator.

But as soon, as soon as Trump starts to run as a Republican, like, oh, bad man, you know, orange man. And so, first of all, they hate his guts. Secondly, like, well, why do they hate his guts? Well, because he’s a threat to their power, you know, but. And also, he’s a threat to their power, and they can’t control him. Everybody else, all these rhinos and all the, you know, the, you know, the Bush clan and the, you know, the Cheney clan and, you know, the, you know, the Mitt Romney clan, they have them wrapped up.

You know, they got, they got the goods on. They have something on them. You know, there’s some. There’s some reason why they all, you know, sort of, you know, roll over, you know, like, you know, like little puppies. And pee themselves when the order comes, you know, And I don’t want to get into, I don’t want to get into what they do to, you know, to get these people under their control, you know, but they must have photographs of something, somewhere, you know, whatever, you know, and, you know, you go to, you go to some party and you, you know, you have one drink and you pass out and you wake up with a, you know, with a photo pinned to your shirt, you know, like, oh, my God, you know, we have you.

We own you. You know, and so, you know, otherwise, I don’t think people who are smart enough to do politics are dumb enough to do some of the things that they do once they get in there. Unless, unless somebody really is driving their agenda, you know, so, yes, so anyhow, so, but, but, you know, you’re, I mean, you’re, you’re a month and a half away or two months, less than two months from, from changing administrations and you’re pulling a stunt like this. It’s kind of like, what are you thinking? And, you know, there is so much invested in the Ukraine war so far that they just want to, they want to push it into the next administration.

I mean, Trump, Trump is a very smart man. I mean, he is, he is. I’ve never met him. Okay. I know people who know him. I have a really, really dear friend, really dear friend I’ve known for 40 years, who was a Navy helicopter pilot who almost became Trump’s helicopter pilot, but it didn’t work out because of just family situations. He, when Trump was recruiting him to be Trump’s helicopter pilot, he talked with Trump. Trump knew everything about helicopters. I mean, he’s, you know, this is, this guy was, this guy at the time was like a 25 year Navy helicopter pilot, and he knew everything about helicopters.

And he was talking to Trump and Trump was telling him things about helicopters that he didn’t know. And I’ve talked with other people who’ve talked with Trump about Trump Force one, the Boeing 757. Trump knows all sorts of stuff about the Boeing, about his, he knows as much about this plane as many of the people who designed them, you know, So I, and you know, you say, well, that’s all sort of, you know, arcane knowledge. Trump is a smart guy, okay? Smart people shouldn’t do stupid things, you know, and one stupid thing is to continue this Ukraine war, you know, Trump has the opportunity to make a very clean break.

He can say, Ukraine war needs to come to an end. Ukraine’s going to lose territory it’s going to, you know, we’re going to cut our losses. We’re going to stand up, we’re going to walk away from the table. We’re gonna, we’re gonna, we’re gonna de. Escalate, we’re gonna deconflict all these issues that are going on with Russia. And it’s, and you can call it, oh, America’s losing if you want, but I call it America’s winning because we don’t get, you know, we’re not gonna get into a nuclear war. I think that’s a win. You know, I don’t think that’s a loss.

But these other people, the Biden administration, Biden and his people, you know, wasn’t just Biden. I mean, you know, he’s, he’s an elderly man who’s not in the best of shape. We know that. Everybody knows that. He may have had his fingers in the pie a little bit, but he wasn’t making all the decisions. There’s somebody else and get that behind us. Get it over with. It’s a loss. The million Ukrainians who are dead, yeah, they’re going to hate us forever for that. Deal with it. But get this war. But this is the time for Trump to make the break.

It’s not the time to say, oh, we’re going to escalate. We’re going to pour more resources into Ukraine if, if they don’t, if the Russians don’t do what we want, we’re gonna make, we’re gonna make what happened before look like peanuts or something. That is a really stupid thing to say. I mean, that is a really, really dumb thing to say. I mean, first of all, we don’t have anything to give them anymore. We get, we gave them everything. The stores of weapons are down to, you know, this much down to very, very thin. Admiral Pipero, Sam Pipero, who runs indopacom.

Indopacom Sam Papers responsibility of in the Pacific. He’s. He’s Admiral nimitz, he’s General MacArthur, and he’s Lord Mountbatten in terms of a World War II analogy. You know, he has given a couple of interviews in the last two weeks. Ward Carroll’s interview on YouTube, the Brookings Institution, on YouTube. He was up in New Hampshire at some, some function about a couple days ago. And he makes no secret of the fact that we cannot, we United States cannot be giving away Patriot missiles. Attack of missiles, air to air missiles. We cannot be doing this because every one of those missiles that you’re giving away is something that comes out of our magazines.

We cannot replace them fast enough. And it’s Pipero’s job is not to start a war in the Pacific with China, but it is his job to fight it. If it happens, if it happens. He’s the guy, he’s Nimitz, MacArthur, Mountbatten, and he’s got to fight a war. He’s not going to start it, but he does have to fight it. And if he’s the war fighting man. And so what he is saying publicly, look it up on YouTube. What he’s saying is we don’t, we cannot afford to give any more missiles to Ukraine and by also Israel, and he’s talking about the numbers that have gone to Israel and then all those surface air missiles that we fired off the ships against the Houthi drones in the Red Sea, that’s a whole nother, you know, warehouse full of missiles that we don’t have anymore.

You know, I mean, Lockheed can only make like 500 of these things a year. You know, that’s, that’s all they can do. 10 a week. You know, that’s where you’re at, you know, unless, you know, it’s going to take a couple of years to build, to build another factory, another plant, whatever, you know. So why are people doing this? Well, it is, it does seem crazy, doesn’t it? But they’ve got so much invested on a personal level, professional level in, you know, what they’ve done, and they’re going to go down in history as just, you know, these loser war criminals who, you know, got, you know, got Ukraine and got the west into a war with Russia, which basically we’ve lost, you know.

Yeah, yeah, well, I, you know, it never seemed like a good idea to have $2 million missiles going up against $20,000 drones. But as someone who holds a British passport, it seems even more ridiculous to me that London seems absolutely bloodthirsty. Boris Johnson was just on French TV screaming how he had to escalate. K. Starmer, who is to me right now presiding over a disintegration of British society. They want him out. They’ve got a petition. They just voted him in and they already won him out. There’s a petition out there. I think he’s got 2 million signatures already.

Asking him to leave is absolutely gung ho on going into an escalating this thing with Russia. And last time I checked, the British don’t have much military. With all due respect to the SBS and the SBS and the great stuff they produce, they simply do not have enough of Anything to fight Russia. What is London’s beef? It seems like you have this irrational hatred of Russians straight down street level, by the way. I don’t get it. I mean, it goes back to where, it goes back to the Napoleonic wars. I mean, are they mad that Napoleon or that Russia beat Napoleon and, you know, you know, I mean, I mean, the British like to say that they defeated him at Waterloo, but I mean, but I mean, it was the invasion of Russia that killed the French army and, you know, destroyed Napoleon, you know, and, and actually the Russians came all the way west and they occupied Paris.

The mayor of Paris went out and handed Kutuzov the key to the city, you know, and so maybe it goes back to that. I mean, in the 1830s and 40s, I mean, there was this school of thought in Britain that, you know, that, you know, we’re an imperial sea power, but the Russians threaten us with their continental power. There was the Crimean war in the 1850s where the French and the British wanted to support the Turks against the Russians. I mean, never a good idea, but you know, they, you know, they did that in a way.

In a way, frankly, we, you know, this is getting deep into history here, but in a way we have the Crimean War to thank for modern Russia. Because the Czar Alexander came out of that and said, huh, you know, here’s Britain over there and there’s France over there and they’re moving armies over here to Crimea and they’re fighting us. What are we doing wrong? As Russia I know says, he says, here’s what we need to do. We need to do two things in Russia. We need to build railroads all over the place. So they did. So Russia is a very rail oriented country where you can move a lot of heavy stuff and a lot of people and everything in a hurry over dedicated rail lines.

Thank you. That dates back to the Crimean War. And another thing that came out of that was the Russians created this sort of a national draft system where every year young men of a certain age, you know, are become eligible to get pulled into the army. Not that everybody does every year, whatever. But that, that system, you know, is part of the military strength of Russia that they are always training young cadre of men, mostly men, women too, in military things at least. You know, how to hold a rifle, how to clean a rifle, how to throw a hand grenade, whatever.

You know, how to shoot a cannon, you know, and you saw that all through the 1800s into the 1900s when the, so when the Bolsheviks took over Russia, you know, they got Rid of a lot of czarist era things, but they kept the, they kept the military conscription angle to it. And you know, the second World War defeating Hitler, defeating the Nazis, that was based on that, you know, mass, you know, conscription. And then we saw it through the Red, the days of the Red army all through the Cold War. And then even today the Russians still have it.

So, you know, I mean, the Russians have a great education system for what they want to do. They have a great, they are highly industrialized. I mean, by purchasing power parity, ppp. The Russia is the fourth largest economy in the world. China, us, India, Russia, in terms of how much electricity they produce, more than just about anybody but China and the us how much steel they produce, Same thing, you know, you know, how many, how many, you know, I mean, you know, mines, metals, whatever. They’re a large agricultural country, they’re net exporter of food. You know, they, they have an entire, you know, from, from ore in the ground to satellites in space.

They have an entire aerospace industry second to none. You know, we talk about the International Space Station up, up in orbit. You know, some. It was built at that factory in Ukraine, but a whole bunch of it was built in Russia. You know, again, that was sort of like a jobs program in the 90s and early 2000s where the US paid NASA USA, NASA paid Russia to build stuff which we then launched into orbit to build the International Space Station. So a lot of the space station is Russian construction and aerospace construction. So, you know, again, gets back to that, oh, Russia’s a, you know, gas station with nuclear weapons or something.

That’s a lot more than that, you know, but anyhow, why do the British hate them? It’s cultural in Britain, isn’t it? You know, I mean, seems to be, yeah, yeah. And there’s all sorts of, you know, historical revisions about how, oh, you know, the Rothschilds, you know, created the Bolsheviks and all this, you know, I mean, you can go down those rabbit holes if you want. And oftentimes you say, you read things like, wow, that’s interesting, you know, but you know, that’s sort of deeper history than I want to get into right now. But getting into like the practicalities of it, you know, should Britain get into a war with Russia? I mean, are you freaking crazy? Are you nuts? Are you out of your mind? If we.

Exactly. If we took the whole British army, navy, air force and marines and we gathered them all in one place, I don’t know, would they fill Wimbledon Stadium? Maybe. Maybe just, you know, maybe just, you know, The British Navy is laying up ships. They’re there. It’s the smallest navy in, you know, hundred. A couple hundred years. I mean, the British submarine force, which was traditionally fabulous. I mean, they were. Last year, they were running an ad in the newspapers for an admiral to run their submarine force. It’s kind of like, hey, you got any admirals out there who want to run the submarines? I mean, I can’t make this stuff up, you know, British.

The British aerospace industry is a shadow of what it used to be. I mean, you know, okay, Rolls Royce makes good engines, but they don’t make that many of them. They’re not. You know, they don’t. You know, it’s not a big. It’s not a hugely big company. And then meanwhile, I mean, you look at the social sociology of Britain. I mean, I see all these videos on Twitter, X or whatever it’s called, YouTube, of these thuggish British police. I mean, I always thought the British police were the. Oh, polite Bobby walking around, you know, but you.

You. You see these videos today of the cops just manhandling people. You know, you know, you’re out. You know, somebody’s out there with a protest sign, and the cops go up and smack them with a. With their. With a billy club or something. It’s like, what kind of country is this? You know, what have you. What have you turned into? You know, and they use these stories about somebody posts something on Facebook and the police show up at their house, like, we want to talk with you about that post on Facebook. It’s like. I mean, in America, it would be like, you know, get the hell off my front porch or something like that.

I got the First Amendment, but Britain has no First Amendment. They have no constitution, you know, they have no Bill of Rights. They have no nothing. And, you know, what can I. What can I say? I feel for you. You know, I. I don’t know. You know, it’s. I mean, it’s wonderful. History, literature, science, culture, et cetera. But, you know, what. What have you. What have the Brits done to themselves with their stupid political class that they have? Unbelievable. Boris Johnson was no prize. Keir Starmer is. He’s scary. I mean, the man is scary. He was the.

Was he not. Was he not the district attorney, you might say, with a prosecutor, whatever they call it in Britain in. Was it Rotherham, the place? Yeah, that’s right. They had the. I don’t. I want to be. Because I don’t want to get us deplatformed off of YouTube, whatever. They had an issue in Rotherham, if you know what I mean, you know, and he was the head, you know, he was the head of the Crown Prosecution. He let it happen, you know, he never did anything about it, you know. That’s right. Look it up, look it up.

It’s in, it’s in. Look it up. It’s in, it’s in. It’s on the Internet someplace, you know. Yeah. I mean, what a guy. How did he wind up, how did he wind up in charge? I don’t know. Got me. But let’s, let’s. I guess I want to leave the last word with you. Where do we go from here? What is the answer to this? You know, how do we de. Escalate without completely looking like morons? Although I think that might be inevitable anyway. Like what, where, where are we going from here? Byron, what do you think? Well, you know, I’m, I’m not Donald Trump’s advisor and I’m a little bit worried about some of the people who might become Donald Trump’s advisors because they tend to be very hawkish.

There is this, there is this attitude in the, in the culture, in the US Culture that, you know, that, you know, oh, you know, we have to support Ukraine to the hilt. And I’m like, I mean, no, no, we don’t, you know, no, we don’t. I mean, Ukraine is over there and we’re over here. And, you know, bad things happen in that part of the world. They’ve happened that way for thousands of years. And I don’t mean just to dismiss it, but, you know, it is not a vital national interest of the United States of America, of where the border is drawn between this so called Ukraine and Russia.

You know, whether it’s here, you know, at the east side of the Donbass or whether it’s on the west side of the Donbass, or whether it’s at the Dnieper river or whether Odessa is Russian or Odessa is Ukrainian. That is not a vital national interest. The United States. That’s not worth, that’s not worth getting us all killed over, you know, in terms of, you know, lost, lost, you know, lost credibility, lost money, lost everything. I mean, something. Our good friend Rick Rule, the natural resource investment guru, likes to say that, you know, people call him up and say, you know, oh, you know, what should I do with this stock that I bought that went really far down? And he says, well, you know, you can either buy more or you can just sell it.

Well, but then I’ll take a loss. No, you’ve Already got the loss. You know, you just, you’re just going to book the loss, you know, you know, what should we do with Ukraine right now? In my humble opinion, Mr. Trump, sir, if you’re listening, if anybody out there who talks to Trump, if you’re listening, book the loss, okay? It’s not your loss, it’s Biden’s loss. You know, do, do something that is easy to do. Blame Biden, blame his people, draw a line. It’s over, okay? It’s freaking. And I’m using that word, freaking, not the other word.

It’s freaking over. The war is over. That side lost, that side won. You know, how many more, how many more of these, you know, missile demonstrations do you want to see? You know, how many more of these, you know, these, these tungsten bullets, you know, coming out of the sky? How many more of those? What, what, what does a system like that mean to the Western military? That means that anything, anything that’s hard, any hard target is dead, okay? It’s dead. Any pier is dead. Any shipyard is dead. Any weapons facility, any weapons factory is dead.

Any staging area is dead. Any command and control system is dead. Even deep buried underground bunkers, they’re dead, okay? They are dead. You’re dead man walking. You’re dead man sitting at the console. You can be under 100ft of granite, you know, in Colorado or something like that. One of those, one of those guys hits and penetrates, you know, they’ll never find your body, you know, you will become part of geologic history, okay? You’ll be buried. And so, you know, so Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump’s advisors get this crap out of your head that, you know, oh, we’re going to inflict a defeat on Russia like they’ve never been defeated before.

That’s, that’s wrong, okay? That’s not what’s going to happen. I mean, I’m just telling you as an outsider looking in, you know, and I, you know, I only spent 30 years in the Navy. What the hell do I know? But, you know, you know, do not, do not take this further. So how does this end? It ends by ending it, okay? It ends by, we’re going to cut the loss, we’re going to write it off, we’re going to have to pick up the pieces, we’re going to have to bind up the wounds, you know, heal the sick, bury the dead, all that kind of stuff.

And, and we’re gonna have to move, move and have to move forward. Another thing that Trump ought to do, you know, I mean, while he’s putting tariffs on Canada and Mexico over the immigrants and tariffs on China over the fentanyl, which is not actually, it’s actually not a bad idea. You got their attention. Okay, you’re going to get their attention with that. They are definitely going to wake up and say, what. What just happened? You know, and another thing that Trump ought to do on day one is begin the process of bringing Russia back into swift and bringing.

And lifting sanctions. I mean, there’s only, what, I don’t know, 25,000 different sanction that the US treasury has taken in the last couple of years against Russia and Russians. I mean, there’s tens of thousands of separate items on the sanction list. Start lifting that stuff and say, why? We’re rewarding them. No, you’re not. You know, I mean, the whole BRICS thing, the whole BRICs, Brazil, Russia, India, China, they almost came up with their own BRICS currency a month ago at Kazan. They almost came out with a, with a currency to compete against the dollar. But what they said was, we’re thinking about this and we’re working on it, but it’s actually hard to replace the dollar because there’s so.

The credit markets are so deep and there’s so many things that you have to do to replace the dollar with a BRICS unit, whatever you want to call it. Yeah. And that’s your leverage. Lift them. Just say, listen, we know you’re mad at us, and we know that we’ve had a lot of bad blood in the last couple of years, but you’re welcome to come back into the SWIFT system. Everybody’s welcome back into the SWIFT system. If you do that, you’ve just made it that much harder for Brics to come up with an alternative currency unit.

Mr. Trump on the campaign trail said a couple of times, many times, that if they’re attacking the dollar, they’re de dollarizing. And if we lose the strength of the dollar in international markets, that would be catastrophic to the United States. That’s like losing a war. Yeah. You lose the dollar, you lose the war. You lose the war, you lose the dollar. Okay? Get over it. So my free advice, if you only, you know, anybody out there, just send Mr. Trump the last two minutes of this video or something. My free advice to Donald Trump, sir, Place, if you’re listening, if somebody is listening, okay, cut the losses in the war.

It’s over. Ukraine lost. The west lost. NATO lost. You know, NATO will be lucky to be NATO much longer. We don’t have to go there. Cut the losses. You know, you’ve already lost, the losses are there. Now you just have to book them. Book them and just, you know, blame the Biden administration. It’s their fault. Okay, great. And then moving forward, Russia back in swift and start lifting sanctions and maybe even like talk with the Russians. I mean, the Russians pulled their ambassador from Washington not too long ago because for seven years, for seven years nobody would talk with the guy.

You know, I mean, I mean, he just, you know, he’d try to talk to American policymakers, was like, oh, no, you’re Russian, we can’t talk with you. I mean, you better talk with them. You know, if you don’t talk with them, you know, that’s the whole reason to have embassies, people you don’t like. Yeah, if you, if you don’t speak with Lavrov, you’re going to speak with the, with the generals in charge of the, of the, of the, of the missile system. Okay. You know. Yeah. You know, get over it. Move ahead. You know, I mean, clean break, move ahead.

Make America great again. Make America healthy again. And we won’t make America great and healthy by getting in a nuclear war. No, absolutely. Well, Byron, that was amazing. Thank you so much for that whole overview and just great broad brush about what’s going on and, and about the missiles and you know, it’s, it’s great for non military people like me to learn about all that stuff and, and I hope all of you watching really enjoyed this. Thank you so much for your time. For Byron King, I’m Sean Ring and we’ll see you soon, I hope. We’ll see you soon, everybody.

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