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Summary
➡ The text discusses a website, freedomlawschool.org, that claims to teach Americans how to legally avoid paying federal income taxes. The site argues that no law requires 99% of Americans to file and pay these taxes. It offers a seven-step program to regain financial freedom and suggests joining a group called the Restore Freedom Plan. The text also warns against blindly trusting accountants and tax attorneys, and encourages questioning authority and verifying laws for oneself.
➡ The text discusses a legal advice call-in show where listeners ask about tax-related issues. One caller, Jason, is considering becoming a member of the Freedom Law School and is concerned about the IRS sending a “lock-in letter” to his employer if he claims exempt status on his W-4 form. The host explains that the chances of receiving such a letter are low, but if it happens, they have strategies to fight it, including legal action. They also suggest ways to avoid this situation, such as becoming an independent contractor or generating your own income.
➡ Gloria, a caller on a radio show, is confused about her tax obligations. She believes that since she owes no federal income tax, she should also owe no state income tax. However, the host explains that even though state tax often “piggybacks” off federal tax, it doesn’t mean she won’t have to pay. The host suggests she calculate her potential state tax and decide whether to pay it or risk potential penalties.
➡ The speaker discusses their experiences with trust funds, attorneys, and private members associations (PMAs). They express frustration over losing a trust fund worth millions and the difficulty of finding trustworthy legal help. They are interested in creating a PMA to protect their assets from the government, but struggle to find someone who can write it without tying them to the state or federal government. They also mention a presentation about PMAs and how they can make a business exempt from federal income taxes.
➡ If you receive a letter asking for payment, it’s important to respond, even if you disagree. You can seek help by sending the letter to us via fax or email. You can also request a consultation with our experts for further assistance. Remember, you can always ask questions in our next session.
Transcript
How can a private membership association make your business exempt from federal income taxes? That is the topic of this presentation. I am Peymon Muthahedei, president of Freedom Law School, which I created in 1996. And for over 30 years I have openly not filed and paid any federal income taxes and been teaching Americans like you to do the same legally and safely. So if you’ve not been to our website, go to freedomlawschool.org for more information. Now let’s talk about private membership associations, abbreviated as pmas. All right, let’s get a little definition from the AI artificial intelligence online about what is it to begin with? Okay, an overview says a private membership association is a private organization formed around a shared interest or purpose that operates outside of public jurisdictions, often allowing members to access exclusive benefits or services.
Examples range from large organizations like the NAACP and the American Medical association to small entities like private health or educational groups or even a golf club that allows members to purchase alcohol in a dry county which does not allow alcohol. For example, payments are founded on constitutional rights like freedom of association and private contracts which allows them to establish their own rules and bylaws. Alright, so that’s a quick overview of it, but how does it work? The formation. A group of individuals can create a PMA by setting rules and regulations and and members joins through a selective process.
How about its operation? A PMA operates under its own private rules separate from government oversight. Okay. And benefits. Members can access exclusive services, products or benefits which can include navigating areas of regulation that are typically government controlled. As far as rights, PMAs rely on the First Amendment of Freedom of association and the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendment right for the right to privately contract. Okay, some examples large organizations are like Boy Scouts of America, Girl Scouts, NAACP and American Medical Association. Small businesses. A chiropractic practice that operates as a private health association, A private school or private club selling alcohol in a dry county that alcohol is normally not allowed.
Okay, now here are the key characteristics that they must have to be a private membership association or pma. Membership is not open to the general public and only approved individuals can join. So they can make it open to the public, but they must approve you joining that club. Internal governors members govern the association according to its own rules and bylaws. Now, because it’s a private domain private thing, PMAs can function in a private domain, meaning they are not subject to the same local, state or federal jurisdictions as traditional businesses. How about the right to contact? That’s a key part.
They have a right to privacy contract which allows Them to transact in goods and services that might otherwise be regulated by state or federal government as long as they have proper documentation. Okay, so this case of NAACP versus Alabama in 1958 is a key seminal case about private membership associations, okay? That everybody relies upon. And again, the benefits of pma. Many organizations out there sell them and they talk about these benefits of pma. Okay, I just read some of these things for you. Here’s another one that talks about these things. Okay? Now here’s another one. Someone sells it that provides services that actually create PMAs for you.
Help you get them up running, help you open a bank account. Okay, Explain to you how it works. And you have different levels of PMAs, like standard PMA, faith based PMA ministry, an unincorporated church. And they give you some summaries of the protections that they may provide if done properly created and run properly. Now, the key thing is creation and operation. That’s the first thing. Because a PMA private membership association must be exactly that. An association of a bunch of people that get together privately and they create all these individuals coming together, this association. Therefore they all own this thing together.
America Medical association is owned by all of its members. Technically speaking, no one owns singularly as one or two people or a couple, married couple, for example, a pma, because it does not belong to any one or two people. It belongs to all of the members of the private membership association. All right, now let’s go take a look at this examples. A lot of people out there selling PMAs for this thing. I’ve seen some chiropractic or alternative health practices operate as PMAs to provide services outside of state regulations. And that is just fine. They can do that thing, okay? But it’s got to be properly created and run.
PMA private clubs, again, they do this, as you heard, that’s not as common. I haven’t heard about that. Okay, but the golf course in this example must be again owned by all of the members of that PMA. Educational cooperatives, homeschooling groups form PMAs, soccer clubs, mom soccer clubs for their children to play soccer. That’s a classic example of a soccer club. I mean a club that’s owned by the members. Once a mom soccer club, after five, 10 years, kids grow up no longer playing soccer. They will liquidate everything. And all the money goes distributed to all the owners of the private membership association, the soccer moms, not any one person.
That is the key thing. You gotta understand the problem about TMAs is they’re all been sold to replace your business and you at the same time practically own control and run it. So the problem with that TMA is it is not really an association to begin with. You are making private. That’s fine, you got members. Maybe you kind of pretend or act like you got, you know, members, but I really don’t, because the real member that counts, that benefits from it, the money derived from the activities is that owner is that chiropractor, that acupuncturist, the natural naturopath, who actually is doing it himself for himself.
So you cannot have that. And all the profits come to you as a chiropractor, acupuncturist, natural health practitioner, no, the profits must go to the entire membership, all 10 or 100 or 10,000 members. They all must get any profits of the association because they all own it. They’re all equal owners, just like the chiropractor, acupuncturist, or naturopath person that’s doing that. Okay? So that being the case, a lot of PMEs are being sold to people who are really faulty. They are not associations of members to begin with. Now, they could, for they could be done correctly if that Dr.
Carpenter, alternative health practitioner is a contractor of the association. And as a contractor now he gets to make good money because they’re usually paid good money for doing these things. $200,000 a year, million dollars a year, or whatever it is, because he’s just somebody that they bring in for that association for their benefit, okay? But he cannot just run the thing himself, take all the money to himself, because that health practitioner is only one member amongst all the members of the association. They could have it where certain members are higher class of members and they get paid more.
That certainly could be arranged. But when does it become something that really benefits that one guy or the owner, this guy, the health guy, versus all the members. It’s a grayscale. If you do too much, then it becomes practically the government says, oh, that’s really just, you know, you, you are the health practitioner. It is really your business. Not really a member’s association to begin with. Okay? So the membership association is not taxable. Homeschoolers, soccer moms, right, because they just do some activity. Any profits gets spread back in the business of buying new soccer balls, newer goal post, get a better field soccer field for the kids to play in.
It doesn’t go to the owners as profits. It stays in there. You make your living livelihood, soccer mom or homeschooler people from your other job, not here. Okay? So with that situation, really the PMAs that are sold, a lot of them to the health practitioners are not tax exempt because they’re just non profit in essence anyhow. Or even privileges in essence. People often add the religious aspect to it, but really it’s kind of sometimes a little bit stretch. I know some people that have done it properly, some people have really true inspirations to come and do this thing.
And for them it’s a religious faith based God, God thing, yes, that does happen. But 1200 people pretend to do that or sold and told to pretend to do that. And it’s not right. And it will not withstand scrutiny if push comes to shove. Now the fact is if you do not file 104 Income tax confession forms, IRS will leave you alone better than iron 99% of the times anyways. Because there’s over 80 million non filers and they cannot take your stuff. They have to make a case against you, give you a proposal of taxes, lets you go to a tax court for trial.
And There are only 20 judges in the whole USA because they have to leave you alone. So they work anyways these PMAs, even if done wrong. But if the push comes to shove, you are less than 1% of the person that come after it will not withstand scrutiny. So you don’t need to do these things necessarily. Not for federal tax purposes, for other purposes. As you saw, it can work and it’s got benefits if it’s done right. Like less regulations, right? More freedom. But for tax purposes, not paid income tax, payroll taxes, it does not make a difference at all whatsoever.
For that, what you want to do is to go to our website freedomlawschool.org and here you will learn, okay. That you can take seven steps to regain your power and freedom. Never again voluntary pay the wash NNDC swap. Because based on the official legal websites of US government, no law requires 99% of Americans to file and pay federal income taxes to begin with. So all you gotta do, click on the Google bar here, that page, scroll down, start the seven steps. Okay. To freedom. Okay. No more slavery. No more paying the irs. No more robbing you.
You got to follow the law. Verify what I just told you about the law. Number one. Two, you got to stop filing those confession forms. 1048 tax form. Stop putting your rope around your neck. Sign that 1048 form. That accountant CPA tax attorney deceived you to believe it’s a safe thing to sign. No, that is a rope. When you sign a 1048 from. Don’t listen to that lying incompetent accountant, CPA, tax attorney. He doesn’t even know the law. He just pretends to know the law that he does not know. Okay? Then you got to realize that the IRS operates on bluff and deception.
They’re the true wizard of Oz that have Dorothy and their friends afraid that they’ll get you if you don’t file. Oh, danger, danger if you don’t file. It’s the opposite. When you sign, they get you. Of course. They’re brainwashed Americans with fear, anxiety, panic, adoration, their message. They tell you all the time, file early, pay your taxes. That’s why people file up income taxes, because accountants and false preachers tell you to be a slave. Okay? So you got to get through this, through our website. That’s called the deception. And free yourself de. Brainwash yourself. And you can take courage from our victories.
I have beaten the irs. So have our students. They’re not a Godzilla. They’re the lizard that’s weak, has no firepower. If you stop following 1044, stop being compatible with holding your paycheck for free on our website. It’s available. And there are no more filing income taxes. Okay? And you are not a slave. You don’t have to pray and pay tribute to the beast. It really steals irs. It’s really slavery. And you can be free of that if you recognize you have the right and power to question authority. Ask your congressman to show what we teach you is wrong.
And if they can show you paying them tax, but they’re never able to do so. And you’ll be free because you’re verified by asking. The lawmakers show you the law that requires you to file income tax because there is no law if you’re merely a citizen. As residence of one of the states. 50 independent United States. Now, here’s an option. You can join a Restore Freedom plan like America’s founding fathers. All for one, one for all. This is a real association we got going on here. Yes. To get together, okay? And restore freedom. You get a guarantee Irish will not take any of your stuff.
You’re not going to go to prison. And if they take any of your money, we’ll reimburse you the entire money Irish took from you. So you have no risk. And we suggest bring more members to this association, okay? And love and spread the truth. Be the Marnie Paul Revere. Empower Americans with the truth and the law, okay? So American people and American families can be great and free and prosperous, full of joy and love and happiness once again, like America used to be. And will pay you for being a modern day Paul Revere. So PMAs, yes, they’re real.
They can apply, they can be done right. But all the time they’re oversold. Be careful of that. I’ve had people come to me, sir Peymon at a pma, such as Lady. Do you run it? Yeah. Do all the money at the end go to you at the end of the year? Any profits? Yeah. I told her, sorry, you have no members, no association, it’s just your business. So she realized she wasted her money and changed her business structure to something else. Like, I think it was a she had limited liability companies, LLCs, I think. So I’m sharing all this to tell you that things could be done right and sometimes things do not apply to you.
So with that, remember to be free, go to our website, freedomlawschool.org and educate yourself. Take the seven steps to free yourself of the IRS by putting your cell phone in your car. Let it run. Watch our videos. I’m sorry? Listen to them as you drive while you watch the road. When you get home at night or lunch to your work, then you watch the videos and listen. Or do lunch and dinner. And this way you know the truth, you know you can be free, and you’ll be free and prosperous with confidence. Sam hello, everybody listening. This is the Freedom Hour after Peymon’s presentation.
My name is Benny Hillman and I will be answering questions tonight if we are able to get through our technical issues at the moment. So if you have been disconnected from the number on the screen, wait a couple of a minute or two here and then you may have to call back. I’m not sure. Yeah, you’ll have to call back and then press 1 again to get into the queue. Okay, looks like we’re, we’re on. So I don’t think that Paimon has answered these questions I’ve gotten from. I got a question from someone named Gloria. I’ll go ahead and answer this question first.
Okay. She says, I’ve been following you on your live show since 2017. First on YouTube, now on Rumble. I know you said that North Carolina follows the federal guidelines as far as filing the income taxes is concerned. What that means is North Carolina, like many states that have federal income, that have state income taxes, piggyback on the federal income tax laws and or forms. And North Carolina is one of those kind of states where if you don’t, if you aren’t required by law, as you’ve Learned from our 7 Steps to Income Tax freedom, then you also are not required to File and pay state income taxes.
Gloria says, I haven’t filed since 2021, but now I just received a notice to file a return for 2021 and 2022. I am sending you a copy of each. I would like your opinion or your advice on what I should do. I heard you say on the show Grand Jury Power Part three a few days ago to send them a copy of the petition if we were ever contacted. What she’s referring to there, I believe is probably the petitions to Congress that we send to on behalf of all of our students. We send them to the Congress members.
Maybe that’s not what she’s saying here. Let me read this notice to file a return from North Carolina here. Well, so first of all, if she’s talking about the petition to Congress, that doesn’t really apply in this case because that’s to provide a protection against criminal charges in case the federal government ever charges you with willful failure to file a return or willful evasion of income taxes. And so that’ll protect you there. Okay, looks like we have two other questioners after I get finished with this, with this question here from area code 540 and910. So just hold on.
We also have a call in from area code 720-but-children’t raised their hand. So they haven’t pressed one to raise their hand to join the queue. So I guess they don’t have any question. Must be just listening in. Anyway. So this isn’t any kind of criminal charge. The petitions to Congress won’t help. And there’s really nothing to do at this point point with this letter because all it’s saying is that records that our records indicate, which means third party misinformation snitch reports were sent to the IRS and got copied to the state of North Carolina. And so they’re basing, basing it on that.
And it shows a very, quite a low income here, Gloria. So whatever taxes might be due, which there’s already been some withholding on, at least the2022 taxes, a little bit of withholding from retirement pay. So I wouldn’t be too concerned about this at this point. State income taxes are much lower than federal income taxes. So that’s why our focus is on the federal, federal income taxes. But we do help our students with state income taxes as well. So the bottom line is there’s nothing to do at this point. But Gloria goes on to say that she’s 68 years old.
She doesn’t think she can afford to join at this time wishes she could, otherwise she would have joined by now. But you also said if we follow the law and send these petitions to our Congress members, which is what you’re teaching, we wouldn’t have to worry. That’s right. You won’t have to worry about going to prison for sure. You may still have to pay a few dollars to the state of North Carolina or protest, but you don’t have to cross that bridge yet until you get to it. So, you know, they would need to send you something else, which they might not do.
They may or may not do. So she says she sent the petitions out around 2019. Also sent a second set out in 2024 just to cover herself. Well, that’s good only in the sense that it’s unnecessary. But the petitions to Congress that we were sending out in 2019, we actually call those letters the. Let’s see, we call them something else had to do with the First Amendment right to petition. What’s that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Redress of grievances. Thank you. We call those the redress of grievances letters. And it wasn’t just a letter. It was a whole big package.
So we’ve streamlined that a lot and did a lot of work in 2020 and 2021 on those petitions to Congress. I had played a big part in that helping Peymon with those letters. So anyway, let’s see. That’s. That’s it for that for Gloria. So I hope that helps. Gloria, I hope you’re listening. And now we are going to go to the caller from area code 540. And so go ahead, caller from 540. Please just state your first name only and how you heard about Freedom Law School and what your question is. Hi, my name is Jason and it’s good to be on with you guys tonight.
I heard about Taymond through one of the truther shows on Rumble. And so that’s kind of what led me here. Okay. My question, I spend a good bit of time researching the website and considering what to do do. I’m considering becoming a member. My one concern or biggest concern is has to deal with the lock in letters. Huh. So it seems to me that I were to pay the fee, the member fee and then submit the W4 exempt status on. They could. The IRS could respond that and send a lock in letter to my. You’re cutting out here.
Yeah. They could send a lock in letter. There you go. You’re back. Lock in letter to your employer. Okay. So my question is how often does that happen and how much success have you guys had fighting it? How often does it happen? The percentages are actually quite low of the employees that they send those to, for one thing. And oftentimes they send out first. That’s what’s called a pre lock in letter that just says, hey, we noticed that you seem to be under withholding. Your W4 may be incorrect. So we suggest you might want to redo your W4, resubmit it to your employer.
But if they were to send a lock in letter, what we’re doing about that is a number of things. One is that for our students who are members of the Restore Freedom Plan, we are having an attorney that we work with send a letter to the employer’s general counsel explaining to the employer’s general counsel, which is an attorney, that the law does not require the employer to honor the, to obey the lock in letter, but they should be honoring your exempt form, exempt form, or whatever W4 form you may have sent in because you followed the law and you’re signing under penalty penalties of perjury, that that form is true, correct and complete.
And if you’re, if you’re, if you go on our website under the Write tab, write to our free yourself from tax withholding. Then you’ll see explained there as to how to stop the withholding from your employer. And that’s what sometimes leads to the lock in letter because they get the W2 from the employer saying you made so much income, but you only had so much withholding or no withholding at all for that year. And so it could flip, generate, it could have a computer in Austin, one of the many computers that the IRS has. Most of them don’t talk to each other, but this one in Austin, Texas, once in a while notices that somebody’s withholding is low and sends out one of these letters.
So the, so that’s one thing that we’re doing. You can also go to our Watch tab on our website and just, just below where the Freedom Hour tab it says doge letters. And on that, yes, that explains. Well, there’s a video showing when Peymon signed that letter and we sent it off in late March. And then it has a copy of the letter and it has a copy of the five attachments to the letter where you can get a really good overview of exactly why the lock in letters are unconstitutional and illegal. They’re sending those letters unlawfully.
The regulation that supports those lock in letters is illegal and unconstitutional. So we sent that letter and we don’t know if or how long it will take for that regulation to get deregulated, per President Trump’s executive order, asking for suggestions for regulations to be deregulated that aren’t constitutional and or are not according to the best interpretation of the laws. And so, but we’re not relying on that letter. We’re also in the midst of helping some of our students file a lawsuit about this regulation. So, yeah, we’re doing everything we can. But a couple of suggestions to make sure you’re set up so that you’re not vulnerable to this is to not even be an employer, an employee, if you can, if there’s something, if your career is such that you can become an independent contractor, that’s the next best thing.
But by far the best thing is to generate your own income. And if there’s no, what we call third party misinformation snitch reports, which is what we call the 1099s that are tattling on your income as if it’s taxable, then that’s all the better. And there’s no withholding on it in any case, even if, even if there’s a 1099 cent, our restore freedom plan protects you from the IRS being able to collect from you. Okay, well, just a quick follow up in those cases to where you’ve had to send something to the employer asking them to disregard the lock in.
How often do they comply with the employer or the employee versus the irs? Unfortunately, so far we’ve sent out, let’s see, I think about 17 of those. And unfortunately, either the employer doesn’t respond at all, or if they do respond, they express fears of what might happen and they don’t really understand it because fear is blinding, you know, so these employers are usually getting advice from attorneys and tax preparers and so forth. And the IRS operates from fear, really, federal government operates out of fear, but especially the irs. And so that’s what we’re fighting against. Actually, you know, I had a recent realization that what freedom means is freedom from fear.
And as Peymon often says, you know, freedom, I mean, fear is the opposite of love. So what we’re trying to do is help relieve people’s fears. And so, you know, we’ll be by your side if you, if something happens, you know, and the lock in letter is the only, one of the only things that we’ve had. Well, it’s one of only three exceptions to our 100% guarantee because our guarantee is that the IRS can’t collect from you, but we can’t guarantee that your employer won’t be afraid of The IRS and collect from you themselves. They were actually drafted starting back in World War II.
They were draft employers were drafted by the IRS to collect for the IRS so that the IRS doesn’t have to. So the employers are the biggest tax collectors. They collect about 80% of all income taxes. Wow. Yeah. So. Well, I appreciate the answer. Yeah, I mean, I was, that’s really. I was kind of operating out of fear as well. I thought if I submit the W4 exempt, then they would probably flag me and send a lock in and then I would kind of be in a bad situation. So I appreciate you kind of going through that and telling me, being honest and telling me.
Yeah. And yeah, chances are really high that they won’t. If they do, hopefully you have the kind of a job that you can get a new employer, because it’s going to be at least, probably, usually at least a year and a half before, or maybe two and a half years sometimes before they would be able to. Their computers would be able to detect an issue and send out another letter. And, you know, by then, hopefully this lawsuit that we’re about to file will have done its job because it’s pretty blatant. And the legal climate is much better nowadays with the different Supreme Court decisions that have happened in just the last couple of years.
It’s made it much more difficult for the federal government to rely on these regulations that are really illegal and unconstitutional, a lot of them. All right, I understand. Okay, well, I appreciate your help. Thank you. You’re welcome. Good luck. Okay, let’s go to the caller at area code 910. Please state your first name and how you heard about Freedom Law School. And then your question, please. Area code 910. You’re on. Hello? Hi, this is Gloria. Oh, hi, Gloria. How are you? Good. Did you hear my answer? I heard your answer. I heard. Read the letter. But I have a few questions here.
Okay. Okay. I heard you say that I didn’t have to do anything, but this letter gives me until December 6th to respond. Otherwise they will send me a notice of individual income tax assessment where they will come, where they will compute my tax liability right now. So, so now are you all saying that even though that the state piggybacks off the federal income tax, now I, I got to pay the state income tax? No, we’re not saying that. You know, the, the law still supports you in not paying them. However, you know, they, the courts and the state Department of Revenue don’t see it that way necessarily.
And so they may, they may come after you and collect the money with penalties and interest that you. That they think you owe based on those, the incomes that they show there. So. So if I don’t. If this is zero balance on federal. Should it not be a big zero balance on the state if they’ll pay you back enough? Well, you would think so, but the courts don’t. Like I said, the courts and the Department of Revenue doesn’t look at it that way. Now I know that’s what Peymon have always said because I’ve been listening to him since 2017, like I said and he’s always said that.
Yeah, they interpret the laws according to what gets them the money. Right. So say that again. They interpret the laws according to what brings in the money that they want. Okay. So it doesn’t matter if they’d pick it back up if there’s a zero balance on federal. Right. They can still. Yeah. That’s why. Because our focus is on the federal income tax. A lot of our students, even though we’re willing to write letters on their behalf for years that are protected and even, even for years that are not. Where if you’re a Restore Freedom Plan member, if you have previous years where you have a problem like this, we’ll help you fight it as long as we can.
But there’s no guarantee, we don’t guarantee that they won’t be able to collect from you. They could actually levy your bank accounts or garnish your wages or things like that. So if you are, if you don’t want this hanging over your head anymore, you might just see what. Since it looks like you haven’t filed your North Carolina tax returns for those two years, you might want to go about what I’ve been going by what Peymon said. If he since the North Carolina falls the federal that I wouldn’t know any state since I don’t owe anything through federal.
Right. And he’s always said and he’s always taught that we could do it ourselves. So that’s what I’ve been. I’m doing. I’ve following the law sending these petitions out and that’s what I sent out the whole packet when I said I sent out this letters, I sent the whole petitions out in 2019. Yeah. And since they were kind of updated, I went and sent more out in 2020. Not 2024. When somewhere in there 2023. 2024. Huh? Right. Yeah. But that’s, that’s for your federal. That’s to protect you against any federal income tax criminal charges. It doesn’t the petitions to Congress don’t really help you much, if any, with your state income tax collections, which is a civil.
So I’m gonna have to pay state civil case. I’m not saying that you might, may or may not. We could, if they do send you a notice of assessment, you could send it in to us with a half hour consultation fee and we could help you fight it. But with this small amount, you know, I’m thinking that this, that the state income taxes for, for your, your income is not going to be very much. Yeah, it’s not very much, but that wasn’t the point. The point is that if I didn’t owe federal and they’re following the federal guidelines, I wouldn’t owe state either.
Guess what I’ve been hearing Peymon say the whole time. Yeah, that’s, that is what he says. But I believe that he usually qualifies it by saying that just because they piggyback on federal taxes, federal tax laws or federal tax forms doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re able to avoid them collecting. Trying to collect from you or collecting from you. So. Wow. You might want to just calculate what, what your taxes would be for those two years. Okay, well that probably would be a problem, you know, paying it. But my point is I didn’t know federal and that’s what I’ve been going, you know, with from what he’s been teaching.
So I wasn’t really worried about it. Yeah, it’s a zero balance at the end of the federal, it should be a zero, you know, on state also. Yeah, if they’re going by that total amount, I understand. Well, I hope that clears up your confusion on that or any misunderstandings. Did you have any other questions? Okay, and what about the. I’ve taken money out of my 403 and TSP and the federal has taken money. Can you do anything about that? Can anything be done about that? Yeah. So before you get pension money or retirement fund money, be sure to send the fund manager a.
If it’s going to be a periodic like quarterly or monthly or yearly disbursement of the money, then you would want to send a W4P to the fund manager or they may have a way online of claiming no withholding. And if it’s just a one time disbursement, then you would send in a W4R and ask for you. You follow the IRS instructions and put zero withholding. Now I know some states, they require you to pay federal, I mean pay taxes. They don’t piggyback off the federal. There’s a couple of them. There’s a few of them. There’s like five that we, that we know of in our research.
Yeah. Right. So I, yeah, I’ve been going along with pavement what he’s been saying about the states that don’t require that we wouldn’t know anything. And I’m telling a lot of people about the payment, about this Freedom Law School. Great. And, you know, I don’t want to be getting wrong information if it’s not going to work. Right. I’ve been religiously going by it and now I’m seeing I got to end up paying state when they piggyback off federal. Yeah, it’s, it’s not a have to. It’s a, you know, it’s just, there’s, it’s a risk. It’s an evaluation of your risks.
And also, you know, it depends on the state. So the state of Mississippi just decided to end income taxes. If you go on our blog section, we just wrote an article, a blog article recently about the different states that are considering joining the states that don’t have any income taxes. And there’s a whole section on which states. Oh, in our knowledge base, we have state income taxes section that lists all the different states that are, that don’t have any taxes or that are piggybacking or that are not piggybacking on federal laws or forms. So sending them the petition is not going to work because that’s what he said.
Like in the letter I’ve sent to you, he said if the Department of Revenue you get a letter from to send them the petition that you sent to federal. So it. Is that not, Is that not going to work either? It’s something you can do, but yeah, that’s not likely to work. Okay, well, that’s what he told us to do in that last one a few days ago. That’s why I wrote this letter and sent this letter because I wanted some clarification. Right. Don’t sound like this working either. Okay, then. Okay, thank you. Okay, caller from area codes, let’s see what this phone screen.
I don’t remember the area code. There’s. There was one more caller with their hand raised. So I’m finding out which one that was. Looks like it’s area code 615. So as soon as we can get you on right about now. Okay, caller from area code 615 with a state, your first name only and then how you heard about Freedom Law School and what your question is. Oh, my goodness, I’ve been calling. This is my Third week to call. But I heard about Heymot probably in the early 2000s. What’s your first name? Sherry. Sherry. Okay. And the week before, I soak with George at the office and he requested that I call in.
Okay. What I wanted was my daughter and I were looking at PMAs and we wanted someone to write a PMA for us. So we put in Freedom Law School thinking that you all would do that, and we pulled up the wrong company and we were. We didn’t pay attention. We just thought it was. It said Freedom Law, something else. I won’t advertise for them. Okay. So, yeah, I’m not going to advertise for him. But we were very excited because I, you know, I’ve been keeping up with him. He’s. For a long time. Dion Brideon with Mike Adams and Vandersteel diamond and Silk.
Just a whole bunch of shows that, you know, that I. I’ve always seen him. I’ve seen him on. Then I watched his. I think it was last year that he was out in Colorado and had a special event. And so I’ve known about Peymon for a long time and. And kind of kept up with him through that time. Great. But I was fine. I have been to various attorneys and they want to tie me in, of course, course to corporate, to. To the state, to the federal in making a private members association. Okay. Huh. And it’s been a while since I paid taxes, so I need something that will protect me and protect property and protect my children’s properties and.
And what we own. And I understand that you can make a trust fund a part of the PMA if we ever need to. We don’t need to right now by any means. But if that were to happen. But I lost. I had a trust fund a couple of decades ago, and kind of like Senator Feinstein, she lost hers. They didn’t pay her. They wouldn’t give her any information. And the same thing happened to me and to my children. And our. Our trust fund was just given away and we tried desperately to fight it. Went to all sorts of federal agencies, the state agencies, attorneys and so on.
And it was a irrevocable trust. But anyway, 18 million or more dollars gone because it was given away. 18 million proof of that. Yeah. And. Wow. My. We three other people who were apart, not of our trust, but from my husband’s company was sold and his brother was. Was the main owner. But my husband had been with him for 30 years, so he owned a great deal of stock. But my. My husband died and his brother even stood, even stole from his grandson and his son and his daughter. He was just that kind of person. And the bank went along with it.
And the other people sued, but we couldn’t sue. We never were able to get anything done about it. They sued and got money. But anyway, I. I’m very cautious and I’m very trusted, as you might imagine. But I can see why I haven’t trusted you. I know that you all have been doing this for quite some time. I know. Payments, I think, started this in the late 90s. 1996. Yes. In just a month and a half, it’s going to be 30 years. Freedom. Freedom Law School’s 30 year anniversary. Well, congratulations. Yeah, and congratulations to you. I was just trying to find somebody that I could trust or perhaps you could give me a name or two or three people who would write a PMA for us and make it a straight PMA where I’m not tied to the state or to the federal government.
Well, did you watch Peymon’s presentation tonight? No, I. Okay, so you might want to review. You might want to get on. What’s the best one? Rumble Rumble on our Rumble Channel and watch Rewatch, you know, watch the recording of the Freedom Hour presentation tonight. It says, get a pma. How does a private membership association make your business. Business exempt from federal income taxes? Yeah. So what did you say? How does a private. Could you repeat what you said? Yeah. The title of members association, the title of the presentation for tonight that you just missed a while ago is how does a private membership association pma make your business exempt from federal income taxes? Excellent.
Yeah, that’s nice. But who writes them? What law firms? Can I go. Could I go to maybe give me two or three names. The first thing you want to do is watch the presentation to see if it makes any sense for you to have a pma. I’ve been studying it for quite some time. Well, you won’t find anything on our website about PMAs, because it’s not really. I didn’t even imply that. I said verbatim that I have been studying the pma. I understand, I understand, but what I’m saying is that you haven’t been studying it all.
I’m asking for people who could write them because attorneys that I had gone to want to add things to it that can’t be in it if it’s going to keep me free from the federal government and even state government. Okay, let me ask. Answer your question another way is that we don’t know anyone because we don’t really deal much in PMAs. That’s not something we’re promoting. So you might want to go to. If you’re, you know, if you really, if you watch Pabon’s presentation tonight on this very subject and you still think it’s a good idea for you to create a pma, then, you know, you might want to go to one of those other people that you’ve studied so much with.
So that’s, that’s not our. I might want to go to those. What other people? What, what are the other people that you’ve been studying so much? Their material, to find out from them, who they recommend. Because we don’t know anybody that. I didn’t say that I’m with anybody or anybody else’s website or anything. It’s. It’s going out and, and finding the information in a different way. Books, library, law library, so on. Okay, yeah, the law library. And, and I haven’t been on any site to speak or to study what they’re saying. All right, well, anyway, the answer to your question is no, we don’t have anyone we can recommend.
I, I understand that you don’t have anyone and don’t know anyone. So I appreciate it. Thank you for your time and have a great evening. Okay. All right, bye. Bye. All right, I don’t see any other hands raised. And so, yeah, so if you do have a question, I see three or four people on the call, but they haven’t pressed one, so their hands are not raised. So if you do have a question, raise your hand. If you have not called in, the number is on the screen, but I’ll repeat it for you right now. The number is 424-552-1299.
And I’ll just give it another minute or two here to see if anyone, anyone else has any questions. And see here. Oh, okay. Area code 669 just raised their hand. So, caller from area code 669, please give me your first name only. How you heard about Freedom Law School and your question? This is Dylan. I heard about your Freedom Law School from David Rodriguez from the Santa Cruz Voluntarium. Oh, okay. What. What did you say your first name is again? I’m Dylan. Dylan. Okay, yeah, great. What’s your question? So, I mean, the unfortunate circumstance of residing in the People’s Republic of California.
I do have a plan to get out. And I’ve noticed that recently the California Tax Franchise Board has been sending me certified mail. And I was wondering, is there any difference between the regular mail that I used to get from them and the certified mail that they’re now sending me. Well, yeah, there’s probably a pretty big difference. And you might want to open the letter to make sure to see what, what they’ve sent. Okay. Well, it’s like it has the same everything in there, the same verbiage. You know, you must pay this amount or else we’re going to, you know, give more fees.
You know, you can go onto this website or call this phone number and pay us, which of course I’m not going to do. Well, you know, if you’re planning on leaving the state soon, then may not be a problem for you. Otherwise, if you don’t get out, get the heck out of there soon enough. They could levy your bank account, they could garnish your wages if you’re an employee or things like that. FTB is extremely aggressive, so. Okay. Do you know of any, anybody who has had their vehicle or property other than a house, repossessed for this? I.
No, I don’t think so. I myself haven’t heard anything like that. They don’t usually come after your vehicles, to my awareness. Interesting. But then again, I haven’t dealt with California as much as Paimon and one of our staff here that started out with Peymon years ago in California. So they have a lot more experience with that than I do. But yeah, no, I haven’t heard of anything like that. They usually go after bank accounts and your wages or lean, you know, putting a lien on your real estate because. Got it. Fortunately, I don’t own any real estate and I don’t ever plan to own any in this state.
Yeah, yeah. So are you an employee currently? Yes, but I do have an LLC based out of Florida that I do plan on growing and expanding. That’s my more long term goal. It’s more of a medium term goal actually. The short term goal is to get out of where it is that I currently am. But unfortunately it seems that my plans are being a bit stalled and it may take me about a year to get out. Okay, well, you know, you may be able to write responses to those letters, especially since you’ve gotten a certified mail one, you’re going to need to write a response or else they’re going to do the next thing when it gets to that stage.
Yeah. So whatever it says in the letter. Yeah, you need to respond and protest somehow to the best of your ability and keep rolling until you can get out of there. Right. I don’t recall it saying anything or else it just Says, you know, pay this and pay it, you know, this way on the website or on our phone number or something like that. And I don’t remember. I did open the letter. I don’t remember it saying or else this. Well, one thing you could do. How long ago did you get this letter? I think a couple weeks ago.
Well, one thing you could do is you could fax it to us or email it to us@questionsoreedomlawschool.org and next week you could ask Peymon. You could call in again and ask Peymon. Or you can send in for a consultation. You can send in some money. Go to our get help page and click on the consultation. Open the order form button and just follow the instructions and, you know, with a half hour session, one of our experts can either answer that question for you or get the answer from Peymon or our other staff member who knows about California FTB issues.
Okay, so it sounds like Feimon will be on next week. Yeah, he should be. It’s pretty rare that he’s not able to get on. I haven’t been on for question and answers for at least a year, maybe two. Okay. Year and a half. I don’t know. It’s been a long time. So. Yeah, he’s usually. Thank you. All right, so does that help you? For now? It does. Thank you. Have a good evening. Okay, you too. All right, I think that’s it for. I think everybody that’s wanted to ask questions has. Let’s give it another minute. You can look at 669.
Yeah. Anyone else that’s in the queue, if you want to raise your hand by pressing one, I think that must be it. Yeah. Okay, everybody, thank you for listening in and good night. It.
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