➡ Trump’s new policies may lead to cheaper oil by the end of summer, which could offset any temporary price increases. Despite trade wars, most of the country’s spending on food, energy, housing, and medical care is unaffected. Trump’s strategy could force companies to diversify their supply chains, which could be beneficial in the long run. Meanwhile, Bitcoin and gold have proven to be safe havens during economic downturns, and their value may continue to rise.

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Bob, welcome back to the spotlight. Hey Dave, thanks for having me. Hey, thanks for being here. I. I just wanted to start off, we’ll talk about the economy, gold and bitcoin and all that, but let’s start off with Germany right now. Germany, they’re planning to block out the sun for the green new scam. What are your thoughts on that? Oh, man, it’s like pulling on a thread, you know, you don’t know what bad things can happen from that. You know, it’s funny, they always worry about like a runaway greenhouse effect. It’s actually the other effect that, that’s, that’s, that’s even worse because, you know, when you have volcanic volcanoes pumping sulfur dioxide and water vapor high into the stratosphere, that, that’s usually when, when actually crops fail.

Crops usually don’t fail because you have global warming. They fail when you have global cooling. And so I, I don’t, I don’t, I don’t see how Germany can, can unilaterally do something that affects the whole world. But that’s a crazy idea. I wonder if they’re just trying to do it over their country saying, you know, to set up like maybe a fog, mist or something just to do it, to say, hey, we’re moving forward with the green. And I think what this is going to do, this is going to wake up a lot of people in Germany going, holy crap, we don’t have the sun anymore.

But if they block out the sun, how does solar work? It doesn’t actually take that back. You actually, there’s always some photons hitting your, your panels. It’s just that it’s extremely degraded. Actually, it doesn’t really make sense when they talk about solar, wind blocking out the sun. I mean, I think we’re starting to see what their true agenda is. Basically, they don’t want us to have power or sunlight. Yeah, I, I think they should use the smoke from this, Dave. Yeah, okay. I think, I think they’re. But, you know, the Green, the Green Party is collapsing in Germany right Now, and the AfD Now Acts actually has the highest polling numbers of all the parties.

So just keep on, just keep on being you and, and we’ll have a whole different Germany here in the next three or four years. I agree with that. And when you look around the world, you could see that the fake news and a lot of economists and a lot of the Ds, they’re all out there trying to convince everyone that we’re heading for this recession depression because of the tariffs. And so far, I mean, they also talked about a stock market crash. And yes, the stock market came down, but it seems like they’re trying to drive the news to actually create the problem.

I mean, is that what you’re seeing? Oh, yeah, for sure. This is narrative building. They want to, they want to create the problem that, so they can report on the problem. So, but, you know, they, they fundamentally don’t understand economics. So we actually have historical precedent as why that won’t happen to the United States. You know, and they keep using the 1929 Smoot Harley act as their, Holly, whatever that ones act as their, as their base case to what will happen to the United States. But you got to remember in, in 1929, the United States was the largest creditor and largest trade surplus country in the world.

And we also had a unique situation where you had suppressed output because of World War I that was coming online in the, in the 2000s. So it’s very unique situation. United States in 2025 is the world’s largest trade deficit country for trade and also the largest debtor by size. And so a trade war with the United States is, is actually a good guy for the United States and an absolute disaster for the largest creditor and the largest trade surplus countries in the world, I. E. China and to the lesser extent the European Union and, and Japan and Korea.

So in this environment, during world, during the Great Depression, Great Britain was US and they were pulling back from their empire and they’re bringing everything back into the United Kingdom. And they actually skirted the Great Depression fairly effectively. In fact, real estate prices in London rose during the Great Depression. Okay? So there was money flowing into the United Kingdom during that period of time. And so that’s what’s going to happen with the United States here. And so the other point about tariffs is that you get a one time rise in price, but it doesn’t hold because you now have multiple countries competing for the access to the United States market.

And, and you’ll see a lot of those tariffs get eaten into by people accepting lower margins in order for them to sell product. And eventually tariffs become deflationary. But let’s say they don’t. You’re going to have higher real wages in the United States and you’re going to have a lower incentive for companies to play the arbitrage labor game around the world because Trump’s putting a baseline tariff in place. So it’s one of those things where, you know, it hurts because you’re doing two a day football practices, but by the time you get into September and October, you’re in shape and you’re running.

It’s just that the Democrats are desperate to find anything to hang this on Trump. And I remind people, and you’d be good to remind people too, is that, ask them, anybody that you know is losing their job because of a Trump policy, be it the, the elimination of jobs and programs in Washington D.C. area or the elimination of jobs because of a tariff. And I think you’re going to find very, very few people are going to have that situation happen to them. And so Trump holds all the cards here, and he could dial the levers as he sees fit.

In fact, China has already dropped some tariffs on US Goods, and America dropped some tariffs on Chinese goods already, too. So you’re already starting to get that push, pull. But make no mistake, Trump’s in control of this whole process because we have the numbers on our side. I agree with that. And the Smoot Hawley Tariff Act, I mean, we were already in a great recession, you know, in a depression, and then they enacted this, this act and they’re saying that it contributed. Maybe it was too late, you know, to bring this into fruition because we were already in depression.

But this time around, like you said, it’s very, very different and we hold all the cards. Plus, with everyone saying, oh, you know, we’re going to see, you know, prices rise and, you know, we’re going to see massive inflation, it’s amazing. When they were spending money like crazy and we actually saw inflation, they said, we’re not seeing it now, we’re not going to see inflation. They’re telling us that there’s going to be massive inflation. But what’s very interesting about this is that energy prices are going down now. And I think what, what’s happening right now is that the energy, the lower energy prices is kind of countering the cost of goods.

Because, you know, as you go to the pump, you’re starting to realize, okay, it’s a little bit cheaper, a little bit cheaper, a little bit cheaper. And when we start to drill for oil, I think at this point, I think Trump now is setting it up where there’s only going to be like 28 days that they have to wait to get the permits and everything to drill for oil. So I think by the end of the, the summer time, I think we’re going to see very inexpensive oil. And I think this is going to counter whatever price increases temporarily that we see.

Because if you’re saving a lot of money going to the pump, and it costs a lot less to transport the item, a lot less to manufacture the item, I think that is a great way to counter whatever price increases that we see. And I think this window is closing for, you know, the deep state in the news where they can say, oh, he’s ruining the economy, because I don’t think this is going to hold whatsoever. So here, think about it this way. Where’s most of the GDP spent in the country? Right. Food, energy, housing, medical and government.

Okay, so food prices are falling, right? Energy prices are falling. Rents are starting to fall. And you know, health care as it is, is, is the problem child. Right. So, but has nothing, that has nothing to do with, that has nothing to do with the tariffs. And in fact, if, you know, we did push come to shove and we say that if you want to sell your drugs in the United States, we got to get the best deal, then you can drive cost that down too. So most of the spending is unaffected by, by these trade wars.

And China, you know, is, what is it, 40 of our trade. Yeah. So it’s not like, it’s not like people don’t have options to ship production to Vietnam, India, Mexico, indonesia, you know, etc. Etc. Etc. So I just think it’s one of the things, I think what Trump’s trying to do though, quite frankly, Dave, is he wants to bust the supply chains. He wants to force these companies to have multiple sources of supply. And in the end it’s going to be good for them because they’re going to have competition now of, hey, do you want my business? You could bid on it, right? Indonesia, Malaysia, India, China, you know, or, you know, or, you know, get my business.

So I think what’s going to happen is we’re going to export the margin compression overseas and in the United States we’re going to eventually probably just see one time modest bump and then we’re just going to have this reign of money coming into the Treasury. So do you think China is going to fold first? How long? They already have. They haven’t, they, they haven’t really come out and said, okay, you know, let’s make a deal. But I think they’re going to try to ride this out. Maybe they’re doing behind closed doors. They’ve been quiet. If they drop tariffs without making any announcement whatsoever.

Yeah, yeah. And as we see this progress with tariffs and everything else, we see bitcoin, it bumped up, moved up to 95, 000 or so we see gold is above 3, 300. I mean, how high do you think bitcoin, do you think it’s, it’s over with where bitcoin is going to continually drop or do you see something else happening? You know, it’s interesting is the great debate inside of our shop right now. You know, it’s weird, you know, if you would have asked me that question two weeks ago to say it’s natural for us to see bitcoin fall back, you know, into the low 60s, maybe even lower in a recession and investor sentiment change, but all of a sudden, out of the blue, we have this company that just went public called CEP Counter, Counterfeit Steel Equity Partners, them and SoftBank.

And the guy, Thawler, I think his name is, created an entity to, basically they call it MicroStrategy on steroids. And so they have a derivatives desk, they have a funding source and they’re going to hoover up Bitcoin like crazy. And also Brazil. In Brazil they created a Microsoft lookalike too. So you’re starting to see maybe anything that’s going to come out on the markets is going to get hoovered up. So I’m less bearish than I was. I just, we just have to see Bitcoin go through recession for us to kind of really know how it affects.

But I will tell you, Bitcoin and gold were the safe havens during the, the February March swoon and they’re not really giving anything back up on the, on the recovery of the stock market. So I’m not as, I’m not as bearish as I was. In fact, I still lean pretty long, you know, in some of the shares I own. I Day trade MicroStrategy all the time. And I own Bido, I own YBIT and, and I just bought a starter position in the CEP company. So, so it’s really, it’s really going to be interesting to see how it plays out.

Bitcoin may not go down. It may just have a permanent bid now as people try to explain away the, the collapse in Fiat. Yeah, and I see gold, I mean, I’m surprised that it’s holding steady at 3300 and moving up. I think this is going to go much, much higher. I don’t know if you, you believe it’s going to go much higher. I, I do. And, and I don’t know if, did I tell you this last time we spoke? I think there’s a hidden, there’s a hidden good guy in it in for the Trump administration because he hasn’t repriced gold yet from whenever the last time it was repriced.

And so he gets to put that, that gain on the balance sheet. And he can use that, you know, sovereign wealth fund. He can use it to pay down debt. He could use it to pay off, you know, to buy back Treasuries that are, that are too expensive. And you know, right now we’re gold sitting, you know, you’re talking about three quarters of a trillion to a trillion dollars that he can add to the tga, which is a Treasury general account. And every time gold goes up, he can keep repricing it. So if he keep forcing gold to go up $3,000 a year, can take $4 trillion of debt out, out of the off the books.

And that’s why I joke with people. I’m like, well, bitcoin, a million gold, a hundred thousand, I think is that pays off the debt? Yeah, I mean that is true. So I mean throughout all of this, how have you been doing with your trading systems, your algorithms? Oh, we’ve done quite well. I will say though, just so people know, is that the day that Trump blindsided everybody with the reciprocal tariffs and the higher ones, we got caught goofy footed too. Okay. So it took us a couple days to react. We can’t, we can’t program Orange man comments.

Yeah. So we just had to kind of like, okay, let’s just take a look here. Then we just reacted to what we saw, went really well. So we saw gold and bitcoin react positively. Oil. Oil held up reasonably well when it got down to the low 60s, high 50s. And we, we adjust it pretty quickly. So we’re back. I think also I think Trump’s tempering his remarks a little bit too now that he’s gotten things the way he wants them. So I think now it’s, we’re going to go back to where the technical analysis is going to work fairly well, but overall we’re doing pretty well.

So we’re happy with our algorithm, you know, and for people that don’t know that it basically it, it looks at momentum but it also looks at intensity of the move. And so we’re able to find high probability setups and all our trades are posted and we give people access to the, this, this algorithm. In fact, we took it to a step now where we got it down to one visible algorithm. And, and people are just making, making a lot of money on it right now. Especially if you’re day trading when the volatility is this high, you can make a lot of money day trading.

So a lot of our, our clients are, are hitting it and quitting it as they say, and the algorithm’s giving them really good setup. So thanks for letting me pitch that. I think you guys will like what we do. You know, we tweaked our pricing a little bit so gone from just an annualized to a quarterly and, and change. Some things that we do in the room like the, this new algorithm now for anybody new joining is they get the new, the new algorithm in the past that was only reserved to the VIP room. And so, so that’s, that’s a good guy.

And then we Just changed the pricing to quarterly. I did it because I lined it as much for my business as I do for people’s cash flow. So with that, Dave, I think people would like what we do here. All right, great. I’ll put all the links at the bottom of the video to make it a lot easier for people to go right over and use your system. And again, when you’re using the system, you’re in the chat room, you’re telling people what to do and you know they can follow along and it’s a great group in, in the chat room and, and everything.

Yeah. So it’s all really like minded people and we suggest things because we really can’t tell people what to do. Yeah, that’s true, true. I just, that’s okay. I’m doing it for the, I’m doing it for the recording. We put trades out every day. People can follow them or not, but people ask me questions, I mean all weekend long people ask me questions about the, the high dividend yield, max trades, how I’m positioned. You know, that’s above and beyond what we do. You know, how are you hedging? And so I shared my positions with people. So we’re pretty transparent here.

We want people to be successful. We don’t over promise but we, we definitely try to over deliver. Great. Again I’ll put all the links at the bottom of the video. Let me ask you about Trump drilling because we mentioned, you know, right in the beginning of this that he’s limited. He’s shortening the permit period like 28 days or so. So how low do you think gas prices are going to go? I mean last time it was fracking, but this time I think we’re going to drill. Yeah. So I think, I think oil is going to have a hard time getting below the $50 area because just the cost of extracting oil out of the ground for new wells is in that range.

So nobody’s going to drill if they don’t think they can get a decent return on it. So we are running actually a worldwide supply deficit right now and nobody’s in better shape. It basically goes from Saudi Arabia really cheap to the United States pretty cheap. Iran, they can’t lift oil out that cheap anymore. Iraq can’t lift oil out that cheap anymore. Russia can’t. So I think we’re all going to settle in that range. But that’s a pretty good price. I mean you’re talking, states have low taxes, you know, they’re gonna, their gas is going to be in the high Twos.

Right, right. Only California is absolutely insane, but everybody else is going to see definitely oil in the three three dollar range, 3, 350, 360 range. And you know, people are going to be comfortable with that. The downstream effect of that is going to be huge, Dave, because of the, you know, all the costs are built in with energy costs. But if I, if I can shift gears slightly over to natural gas, all this drilling is going to produce excess natural gas and that natural gas is going to be piped into these LNG facilities in, in, in Louisiana.

And also we’re trying to negotiate with Korean Japan to build a pipeline and facility from Alaska crude and Alaska natural gas to go to Japan and Korea. And they’re very open to this because they don’t want to be reliant on the South China Sea for their oil to come through, you know, for obvious reasons. And also the, the shipping lanes are long logistics as they say. Where Alaska, you know, is so close that Japan invaded there in World War II. So you can get the oil to, to Japan and to Korea and natural gas in short order and it’s cheap, you know, it’s a lot less money they’re paying for the Saudi oil and Saudi natural gas.

So I think you’re going to get a deal there too. So very strategic. And I think it’s going to, it’s going to help our allies there too, which then lowers their costs, which then they can afford the tariffs which then comes in the United States and all we know. Yeah, I think it’s all connected and, and when you start to do these things, it makes it better and better and better. I think Trump right now, he’s just building the foundation. And I think once the foundation is done, you know, after you have the foundation, like for a building that’s done, the building goes up pretty fast.

So I think we’re going to see things really move forward very, very quickly. And I think this is why he’s continually putting out the message that he would like to get rid of income tax. And what’s very interesting, they started off with like $150,000 or less. Now he put out a post on Truth saying, you know, 200,000 or less we can get rid of income tax. You think he’s seeing the tariff numbers come in. Do you think he’s realizing like, okay, this is really good and we can get rid of the income tax for 200,000 or less now? I think part of it is I’ve been looking on the, I’ve been looking on the websites for the government.

And I think the, the tariffs are now generating annualized 250 to 350 billion, which is up from the year before. And we haven’t even really kicked in yet. Right. So I think he’s going to get close to the 750 billion to a trillion dollars when it’s all said and done. But what he’s doing here is he’s, he’s making a case for really, really limiting the activities of the government agencies that, that are bothering Americans on day to day. I mean you pretty much any S corp and an individual at 200,000, you know, you’re only talking the top 5% now are going to pay any tax at all.

And so I think Democrats are going to have a hard time opposing that. And then Trump’s going to say I’m going to pay for it through cuts in government spending and tariff, tariff contribution. So I mean, well, once let’s say he does get rid of, let’s say just use any number, 150, 200,000. Once he does that, people are going to have a lot more money in their pocket. I mean, can you imagine someone making, you know, 150,000, a hundred thousand they get to keep all their money. I mean, where is this going to go? Yeah, so you’re looking at, and I just was running some scenarios for me personally, you know, like, you know, what number do I want to make this year? And, and, and as I was daisy chaining up, you know, if you have, if your gross wages are, are 150,000, you know, really your AGI is anywhere between like 90 and 110 depending on deductions.

You, you would save about $11,000 in federal income tax. Okay, yeah, if you’re 200,000, you’re going to save about 16,000 in, in, in, in, in federal income tax. So it’s, it definitely that, that’s visible to people. I mean you’re talking about, you know, an average really cool vacation will cost you what, six grand, right? There you go. Yeah. And, and who cares if tariffs raise everything? 10, you know, you’re talking 10 of 20 of your spending. So you know, so your budget goes up 3 or 4%. Right. Unless you’re unlucky and you buy all that crap.

And, but your, your, your, your real take home pay went up, you know, what, 10%. So I think you’re going to be in, you’re gonna be in pretty good shape. Yeah. And he just locks people in. And then because of Doge, I think people are realizing, well, Most of the stuff we’re spending this stuff off was just stupid, you know, you know what I’m saying? And, and so they can’t make the case that good programs are getting cut because every day we’re finding out that, you know, basically it was a Democrat slush fund to, to control our, our citizens for the benefit of them.

I agree. Do you think in the end with him removing the income taxes, I mean, if he gets that far, which I do believe he will. Do you think he’s going after the Federal Reserve? I think it’s probably his last target because, you know, if you, if you’re, if you’re, if you’re in a fight with a, with a bunch of lions, the last thing you want to do is start shooting at the elephants, you know, So I think he, I think he’s, I think he’s going to deli slice this stuff off, but he can make the Federal Reserve pretty irrelevant.

Okay. If he drives the debt down. Look, they, the only power that Federal Reserve has is because we have debt. Right? Okay. And so the more he drives debt down, it reduces the power reserve to have influence in our lives. And number two is if he keeps gold moving higher at the same time, you know, he provides an alternative treasury function outside of the, of the, of the bankers, you know, being able to absorb new debt. So I think it’s really interesting play. I think I understand the strategy and it’s dissent. And this other guy, I always forget the name of him that the, the professor.

I think these guys have found and broke the code. As long as nothing stupid happens, you know, after the next election cycle, then I think we’re going to be able to fundamentally change the country, but probably change the world because other countries are going to see the miracle of Argentina and the miracle of America and say we want that too. I agree with that. Hey Bob, thank you very much for being on the X22 Report Spotlight. Once again. If people wanted to join up to your trading system, where should they go? Yeah, go to tradelike a genius.com or tradegenius co.

Check out our specials and I think you’ll like what we have to offer. Pricing is really good and I think you definitely get a lot more out of it than you get into it and so what you put into it and I think you like being in the rooms. Everybody’s like minded and we all help each other for success. So thanks for letting me pitch it. No problem. Like I said before, I’ll put all the links at the bottom of the video. Bob, once again, thank you very much for being on the spotlight. I really appreciate it.

Thank you very much. Thanks, Dave. Thank you.
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