➡ The discussion revolves around the perceived shift in advertising trends, with companies like Dunkin Donuts and American Eagle seemingly moving away from ‘woke culture’ and towards a more traditional approach. The speakers also discuss the rise of ‘incels’ (involuntarily celibate individuals), who they suggest may be driven to violent acts due to their resentment towards societal rejection. They also touch on the enduring support for Trump, suggesting it’s underestimated and influential in these trends.

➡ Brian Coburger, a man who faced rejection and ridicule from his peers, especially girls, since middle school, developed a deep-seated rage over the years. His first love, a blonde cheerleader, rejected him, leading to further mockery. Despite his father’s attempts to help him by enrolling him in a boxing school, Brian’s anger escalated, culminating in a tragic incident involving Kaylee, Maddie, and Zanna. The lack of a strong father figure and proper psychiatric help were highlighted as contributing factors to his destructive path.

➡ The text discusses the struggles of two fathers who lost their daughters and are dealing with their grief while battling personal issues like addiction. It also delves into the topic of mental health, particularly in the context of social media influencers and the pressure they face to maintain popularity. The conversation then shifts to the rise of promiscuity among young women, suggesting it could be a result of past trauma or abuse. The text ends by questioning whether this behavior is a sign of low self-esteem or a result of a broken family structure.

➡ The text discusses the consequences of certain life choices and the impact of societal pressures. It highlights how some women, influenced by the feminist movement, chose to live like men, engaging in casual relationships, which led to regret later in life. It also discusses the effects of divorce on children, making them fearful of long-term relationships. Lastly, it delves into the issue of Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE) in athletes, linking it to violent behavior and mental health issues.

➡ The speaker discusses the struggles of athletes who don’t make it to the professional level, often leading to feelings of regret and sometimes destructive behavior. He shares his own experience as a boxer who didn’t reach his ultimate goal but found success in other areas. He also mentions the importance of upbringing in shaping an individual’s life and ends by discussing a future interview with a doctor who has written books on relationships and terrorism.

All right, folks, welcome to Nino’s Corner TV. I’m with Dr. Carol Lieberman, a psychiatrist that’s here to say that Trump Derangement Syndrome is a real diagnosis or you’re trying to make it a diagnosis. It’s a real mental illness, correct? Right. Psychiatric disorder. I mean, I mean we all pretty much can assume that. I’ve seen things that, I am shocked that that’s out there. But first, folks, get your Noble gold. Get your noble gold. Here’s the hard truth. Every six years, your dollar loses half its buying power. That 100,000 in savings today could feel like, I don’t know, about 50,000 by the year 2031.

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I mean the, they’ll go to their, they’ll die on this hill, right? To, you know, if I try to defend Trump, if I’m a conservative, they outcast people and their families, people are ostracized. I mean, it’s insane. And what I’m trying to do here with my channel is try to, try to, try to bring people together. But it’s not about being a Democrat or a liberal. It’s about having a serious disorder, correct? Well, yes, I, I, I, I try to make that distinction that it’s not about, I mean there’s no, you’re not mentally ill if you have a disagreement with what the, the Republican platform is or even Donald Trump’s policies.

But it’s about this, well, I’ll tell you the, the, the definition, it’s not a rational kind of thing. Trump Derangement syndrome is an irrational quasi psychotic hatred of anything Trump resulting in rage and over the top efforts to destroy him and his work. This hatred and, and rage can spread to people and projects that are closely associated with Trump, such as the destruction of Teslas, precipitating that precipitated the end of Elon Musk’s work with Doge now, my violence, in other words. Yeah, well, you know, that’s, that’s the severe case. Yes. So it’s. But the point is that it’s irrational and it’s quasi psychotic.

I have divided it in the diagnostic criteria into mild, moderate and severe. And so it’s not a rational disagreement in policy or political theory. It’s about hating Trump for no rational reason, just because he’s Trump. And, and I can tell you about which people are more likely to, to have this. I’ll tell you. I mean, can I guess, can I make a guess? Or white women, Middle aged white women. Well, white women who are college educated. Oh, okay. Really? Yes, but, but that’s according to some polls. But it is not just that group. Men. Well, first of all, it’s anybody in, in.

The people who are most vulnerable to having this are people who had authority problems when they were growing up, problems with their parents, problems with other authority figures, and they project, and they never got over it and they project this onto Trump. Then also for men, it’s men who have low self esteem. Oh, I was going to say maybe low testosterone, but. Okay, okay, possibly. Yes. Well, look at him as, he’s an alpha male and they’re jealous of that and they feel like they would never be able to achieve. You know, he’s the stereotypically most successful male.

Right. He, he has a lot of money. Even before he became, well, before he became president, he had money, he has a beautiful wife, he’s successful, he’s has a lot of power. President twice, all of that. So it’s like men who feel that they haven’t amounted too much and they don’t feel that they have good prospects. Yeah, I don’t think, I don’t think he’s threatened. He’s a threat to other alphas. Other Alphas are pretty secure in themselves. You know, they don’t find him as a threat. I feel more the Betas, the Charlie’s out there, that didn’t amount to much in life, that kind of, they feel like, you know, why him? Why not me? Exactly, exactly.

So that’s really a reflection onto themselves. Right. And, and the treatment, which I’ll, I can get to later, but the treatment deals with not trying to convince people to like Trump. It consists of fixing whatever is wrong with the person. Oh, that’s a hard one. That’s. What are you seeing patients like this who, who have Trump derangement syndrome? Yes, I have some, yes. And you give them the diagnosis of. Or the remedy is to fix themselves. I mean, I bet they hate hearing that. Well, it’s not that cut and dry. I mean, first of all, I mean, you know, in therapy, the goal is, even if they don’t have Trump derangement syndrome, to help somebody fix themselves.

100. You don’t have to say that, you know, I’m doing this because you have Trump derangement syndrome. I want you to be a better version of yourself, regardless. But this is a real thing. I mean, this is like. And this leads to acts of severe violence. It can. Yes. And then the women who are more prone to. Well, I mean, we said about the white college educated, but also it’s women who are feminists. It started with the hats, remember, the pussy hats? Right, right. And. And then we have, you know, the, the people today, like when, when Trump was running and when he won, women there, There were some women who decided, a lot of women, these feminist women who decided that they would withhold sex, withhold dating, withhold having kids or marrying to punish men to men who voted for Trump or who like Trump.

So do you feel like most of these people maybe. What’s a common thread? Is it a broken home, a weak father, no father in household? Are you talking about men and women? The men and women? Yeah, let’s say, let’s say both here. Let’s. What’s the common thread holding them together? Is it. It’s, it’s, it’s. I mean, the common thread was what I was saying at the beginning, that they had problems with authority starting from the time they were young. Well, would that be due to their household not having a. Yes, it’s always do. Yes. Right. So, like not having a father around? Because I know when you look at the agenda that’s been implemented for decades past and moving into now, the father was strategically taken out of the household.

Right. And they broke up the families. And I, I feel like the nucleus family is completely almost gone now. There’s so many different definitions of what a family is now. Right. So. But so would you say maybe that’s where it started? Well, I think the, the problems that with deconstructing the nuclear family started before Trump. Right. That’s what I’m saying. Like, this was an agenda, but decades past, a long time ago, is now in full fruition now that we’re watching. And Trump represents that alpha megalomaniac type of man that they’re like. Right. Well, Trump represents a threat to the people who want to destroy the nuclear family.

Right. 100% he’s trying to bring back the nuclear family and bring back Norman Rockwell’s America and all that. And they’re completely against that. Right. Because. So that they can, you can. What’s the word? Use propaganda on kids to get to, you know, hate each other. Right. Identify as this or identify as that and not know who they are. Right, right. So he’s basically. He’s that polarized. He’s that polarized individual that people. It’s. There is no. I’ve never met anybody that’s kind of. Ah, well, I kind of like him. I don’t. It’s either hate him completely or love.

That’s true. Yes, yes. But. And you know, both sides are kind of making. Well, the media, of course, has a big role, but both sides are kind of making the other side defend their side more. So it’s, it’s escalating. Right. So like, you see cnn, everything negative about Trump and then Fox, everything pro Trump. But I’m starting to see even like the new syndicates now, even like CNN starting to go a little. People are learning like, hey, we’re not going to beat this guy. We might as well join the party here because we’re not winning. Yes.

I was just reading some stuff this morning about, about south park, you know, about how they did these spoofs on Trump and, and Vance and all that. And you know, and they did it to sort of, to, they, they were hoping to shame them, you know, but, but in fact, people, because they, Both Trump and J.D. vance went with it, you know, didn’t get all puffy and puffy about kind of defeated South Park’s, you know, but I mean, I don’t mind so much when people are doing it in kind of a, a funny way or a satirical way.

You know, there’s like Randy Rainbow. Do you know Randy Rainbow? Have you ever seen his videos? He’s not sure. He’s a gay guy who. It sings. And he, he, he’s been doing this for a long time. He, so he, and he makes fun of. You know, it’s kind of like south park but in. As a musical, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so he’s, you know, he does these things too, in not a really mean way, but kind of a way that you can sort of laugh at. Well, look, what’s, I mean, this is also like a new trend taking place now.

This whole American Eagle jeans ad, Dunkin Donuts. I mean, it’s kind of like leaning to like, white supremacy, it seems like, to me. And now you got Lizzo Calling out Sydney Sweeney, American Eagle jeans ad and a new song. I mean, they’re really taking, you know, up arm. They’re really going in, up arms into this, against this movement that seems to be now catching fire. So it’s like, it’s almost like, if we can’t beat Trump, let’s join the, like, big corporations. Dunkin Donuts, American Eagle, American Eagle jeans. Like, Kind of putting innuendos out there and kind of hinting towards almost like white supremacy.

Am I right in saying that? Well, I know it’s just what you mean, but I. I don’t know that they’re doing it so much as white supremacy, but, like, but like, not to be afraid of the woke culture. Right, right. Like, you know, I mean, what was it? What was the beer taking a stand again? Basically putting your foot down and saying, enough’s enough. Like, this is completely. Exactly. This is completely opposite of dei, Right, Right. Yes. And so an opposite of wokeness. And like, we’re not afraid anymore to, you know, to. To do it, to show it the way we want.

I mean, you know, there’s nothing wrong with having a beautiful girl. I mean. Yes. With the jeans and all that. I mean, it is kind of. It is kind of asking for asking. Backlash. I think that’s the way you’re supposed to promote products and like, you’re supposed to show someone beautiful on there. That’s what I was raised. I was raised my whole life watching that, like in commercials and ads and then in. In billboards and things like that. So this is kind of like anti wokeness, you know, and it’s kind of looks like that’s where the trend is going now, right? Yes, yes, there is.

I’ve been noticing that too. I mean, they saw what happened. I’m trying to remember the beer. What was the beer that had the. Oh, oh, Bud Light. Okay. Yes. We saw what happened to them. We saw. We’re seeing what’s happening to Disney, you know, with their Snow White and all that. There’s. There’s backlash now against all this Wokeness. Thank God. It’s about time. It’s an incredible thing to watch. It’s just like we’re watching history being made right now. And then here’s the. And I’ll just show. I’ll just play a little bit of this. But yeah, here’s the Dunkin Donuts ad.

Look, I didn’t have to be the king of Summer. It just kind of happened. Genetics right there. Genetics. I mean, they’re going all in. Wow. Did you see this one yet? No, I hadn’t seen that one. Wow, that’s a bit much with the genes and the genetics, I mean. Yeah. And then he says, I just got my color analysis back. Guess what? Golden Summer. Literally can’t help it. Every time I drink a Duncan Golden Hour Fresher, it’s like the sun just finds me. I mean, this is crazy, right? You haven’t seen this? It is. No. That’s pretty amazing.

You know, of course, when you do it. So, you know, liberals are going to get really buttered about this stuff. I’m surprised there’s not a boycott on Dunkin Donuts from them or, Or American Eagle Jeans, but it’s. It. Actually, what’s happening is that it’s the other way around. I, I bet you people are, Are flocking to these places right now, because, I mean, people don’t. People really underestimate the support Trump has. Yes. And, and, you know, I, I think that, I think you can’t lose it. I mean, you, you know, it’s certainly drawing attention to both of these ads.

So it’s made. I mean, if they didn’t have something like that, people, it wouldn’t have gotten as much attention from people. A hundred percent. But, I mean, I’m just kind of, like, in awe on the direction this is going now. I’m just kind of throwing back, like, whoa, it’s only a matter of time before someone starts sporting the stash, the Hitler stash. I’m like, wow, this is correct. And it’s going. I hope not. We’re having enough antisemitism in the world. I’m just saying they’re getting really brave. I mean, I don’t know. You know, to me, it’s just, it’s an incredible time to be alive and to see this boomerang happen.

I think, you know, more than not, I think the majority of people support Trump. Well, yeah, I mean, we saw the votes, right? So what about, like, let’s talk about some. Too big to rig. Yeah. 100, 100. So let’s talk about, like, I think it was Brian Coburger, the. Of the four universe, the four students in Iowa. Iowa University. Was that Trump Deranged Derangement syndrome? What. What was. What are all these mass. Mass shootings contributed to? A lot of them are against Trump, correct? Well, I mean, some of them, but the Brian Coburger case, really, I don’t think has anything to do with Trump.

Brian Coburger. I was actually the. I have been talking about Brian Coburger since. Since before they arrested Brian Coburg. Obviously, I couldn’t use his. I didn’t know his name. But what I mean by that is when they announced for students and that it was the bloodiest crime scene that the investigators had seen, a lot of them were going in there and they were saying, this is the bloodiest crime scene I’ve ever seen. So, okay, I knew that. And then I also knew. Then they showed the pictures of the victims, and they were these beautiful, popular college students.

So I put the two things together and. And, you know, this is when they were. People were getting very frustrated with the police because they weren’t catching the guy. It was like. Most of them, it was like, what happened on the 30th. It was like almost three weeks before they caught the guy. And so I was trying to help them, give them some hints. And so I said. And it was. It was. I was quoted in Newsweek at the time saying before they arrested him that the. The killer is an incel. Do you know, is that like, type stuff or like, stands for involuntarily celibate? Okay.

Oh, wow. It’s the guys who. Oh, wow. I’ve never heard that before. No, it’s. It’s an increasing phenomenon. These are guys who have basically never been laid. Wow. No wonder. I don’t know what it means. That’s it. It’s. Wow. It’s guys who have been rejected by girls their whole life and they build up a rage towards women. And. And there are these. These chat rooms on the Internet where they congregate and they talk about this girl and that girl and how they hate them and they’re going to do this to them. They’re gonna, you know, and they, they kind of get each other excited about.

They’re not in the desired gene pool. So this is their way of attacking society for that. Yes. But, you know, but it’s not just that they’re not attractive because what happens is. And I’ll get. You know, Brian Coburger is a perfect example. I mean, there was a. One of the incels. You might have actually heard about this. I think this was 2014 or somewhere in the teens, there was a guy named. Yes, I always. I’ll think of it in a minute. Anyway, it was a guy who killed a bunch of coeds in Santa Barbara. I remember that Rogers, Roger something.

Roger. I don’t know his name, but I remember that clearly. And he was an incel. And he wrote. Do they admit that they’re incels. How do you know they’re an incel. Okay. Some do and some don’t. But I mean the ones that go into these chat rooms do. But, but he, he, he wrote a manifesto talking about, I think he even called himself an incel in this manifesto. And he talked about how, you know, for his whole. And he wasn’t a bad looking guy. So it’s not just about looks. I mean that certainly can be a big part of it.

But, but, but it’s about the self concept. In other words, if once a guy starts being rejected, they start feeling bad about themselves and they start feeling like no woman is going to want me and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, like they start kind of like they self manifest. Right. They act kind of. They, they have this chip on their shoulder. They act like this already. So anger. So the women aren’t necessarily reacting to what they look like they’re reacting to, you know what, like what’s this guy. Something about this guy they’re off putting.

Exactly. So now Brian Coburger. Okay, so, so that was on the 28th of of November 2022 that I was quoted saying it was an incel. Then they arrested Brian coburger on the 30th and the more so then we started finding out more about him and we found out that he had a girlfriend. Well, he had a. She wasn’t his girlfriend. She. He had a. His first love in middle school was this woman who, this girl who was a blonde cheerleader. And he, it was his first love. And he wrote her a note, you know, like a love note and he put it in her, her.

What do you call it? Your locker. And he, you know, he, he said how much when, how he loved her and all this kind of stuff. First mistake. Go ahead. What, what’d you say? That’s the first mistake right there, right? Yes, exactly. So you just had to talk to me. Yes. Don’t do that. So, okay, so he did that. I mean, not that it would have mattered if he had done that or not. She still wouldn’t have wanted to go out with him. But that just kind of sealed the deal. But that got her to start making fun of him.

She got the other girls to start making fun of him. And these people went together to high school. You know, they moved on to high school. High school is like the animal kingdom in the rare. In the raw. In the raw. I mean, it is. And so, so, you know, all through junior high school and high school, you know, women, girls were giving him the impression that he’s this nerd freak, whatever, that they would never want to go out with. And in high school, you know, he had. For about a year, he was into heroin and he was fat.

You know, but then he got thinner. And Anyway, so. So then I added that third thing, the bloodiest. These beautiful girls. And. And then his first girlfriend who rejected him, who was a blonde cheerleader who looked just like Kaylee and Maddie, like they could have been triplets. Oh. And. And, And. And then people are still saying, I don’t know why he did this. Really. So what did they say? Rejection breeds obsession. Is that what it is? Like that. So he got rejected so much, he started obsessive compulsing over it and. And repelling women. And then next thing you know, he just manifested this demon.

Right. Well, he was building up over the years. Rage. He was. Rage. Rage was growing inside of him. And he let it out on Kaylee and Maddie. And then he. Then, unfortunately, Zanna had gotten food. You know, she was in the hallway because she had ordered food. So she. I. I don’t know that he would have ever killed her and her boyfri if they, like, didn’t see him. So let me ask you this. Did he come from a broken family? Because I really think that the. The. The. The common problem here, the common denominator, is not having a strong father in the household.

Because, like, a strong father would be like, what’s wrong, son? Like, you know what? We’re going to the gym. We’re gonna hit the weights. We’re gonna get strong. We’re gonna. Do you know what I mean? Like, yes. You know, unfortunately, his family has kept themselves so hidden. We don’t know a lot about them. We do know that his father, you know, he wasn’t really a great father figure. He had sort of a lowly job. And. And. But. And I don’t think he paid much attention to him. The one thing he did, he took him to a boxing school.

And. Which wasn’t a bad idea. However, they should have taken him to a psychiatrist. Yeah. I mean, there were signs early on, like, certainly by middle school, there were signs that he had problems. And boxing, you know, to make him feel tougher and get himself in shape, and that’s fine, but that’s not enough. You know how that’s. That’s what changed my life is I got beat up by a girl when I was, like, 5 years old, and my dad dropped me off in the ghetto boxing gym with my uncle, and that’s what started my whole boxing career right there.

Oh, my God. Yeah. And that’s. And then it was over. It was just like it was game over. Like, that’s just. That’s what took off. Bing. And took off. But it worked for me. I’m not saying it’s gonna work for everybody, but, I mean, he left me there in the boxing gym at 5 years old with my uncle, and it was terrifying. And I remember then that’s what. How I grew up to be a fighter. But. Yeah, So I think it can work sometimes. It works. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe they should have done more of that or something.

Well, I mean, for me, it was probably pretty dry. I mean, my dad had to do something. Dr. Classic. I mean, I was wearing. My sisters were putting curlers in my hair, a dress, high heels. I mean, I got beat up by a girl. I think my dad probably did the right thing, you know? Yes, I guess. Well, yes, I think, unfortunately, Brian needed more than that. Yeah. So then, you know, so there he. We. I. Did you. I don’t know if you saw any of the sentencing when the people gave victim impact statements. Did you see it? No, I didn’t see that.

I was glued to it. It was just. Oh, it was heart. Heart. Just heartbreaking because they each, you know, these were the relatives of the. Of the four students. And. Well, actually, I think one. One of them didn’t have anybody come because they were very much against the plea deal. But. But anyhow, these relatives came and they gave their talks. And every. Every victim’s impact statement was different. And Brian had decided, in my opinion, that he was going to be like the Teflon defendant. He was not going to show that whatever anybody said affected him in any way.

Oh, wow. He wanted to just be right. Right. He didn’t move except that he. He blinked sometimes. Like he couldn’t control his blinking. And he blinked at times when someone said something that got to him different ways. But, like, it was. You know, maybe someone made him think of something or someone was really angry at him and that kind of just different for different reasons. But he did blink. And also, you know, there were. There was. There were two men who testified. And like, mostly it was people who were angry at him, although one person said she forgave him.

And some people said things that weren’t just. Kaylee’s family was really super angry. They were. They. They were trying to get to him. Like saying things that they knew would get under his skin. Yes, exactly. But. But there was. There was the father of Maddie and the father of Zanna who said things that I could tell, you know, he’s a psychopath. So they don’t have empathy or compassion. But there was a little something like he had been holding his mouth really tight, you know. But when these two fathers spoke, and I’ll tell you what they said, He.

He. It softened just a teeny bit. You could just see. And so Maddie’s father. First of all, when Maddie’s father walked up to the podium, you could tell that there was something wrong with him. And he was very, very thin, and his arms were, like, shaking a little bit. And he was her biological father, but she had a. She had a. He had. He and her mother had divorced and she had a stepfather. He spoke also. But. But the biological father was much more impactful. He talked about. Biological father, talked about how Maddie was the best thing he had ever done in his life.

That was his one accomplishment. Yeah. And that he was an alcoholic. And substance. He. He. Who was the father? The father. Well, there’s a big. There’s a big red flag right there. Right. Well, wait. But not of Coburger. That was Maddie’s. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And so he talked about how she was the bet, the one thing he accomplished in his life, and he talked about how. So it seemed like he was still in her life to some degree, even though, you know, they were divorced. And he used to go with her to concerts, and he talked about this.

His favorite. His best memory of her was when she had wanted to see this particular musician at a concert. And he was all sold out. And the father managed to do something. This radio station was giving away tickets for some reason, and the father managed to make that happen. And. And he got four tickets, meet and greet tickets, and it just blew his daughter, blew Maddie away, you know, And. And he went with her and then some friends, and it was like the happiest memory that he has of her. Oh, I got chills just telling you about it.

You know, I had chills listening to it. Anyway. And then the other father, Zanna’s father, talked about how he. That he lived seven minutes away from the house where the killings went on. And she had called him during the day. He spoke with her, and he. She didn’t seem. This is before Brian Coburger came, but that she didn’t seem. He wanted to sort of cheer her up or something, he thought. And he. So he thought about going over there. He didn’t know Co Burger was killing them at the time, but he thought about going over there.

But then he remembered that Santa had said, don’t drink and drive, and he had been drinking, and he Also gave the idea that he had. Oh, he talked about how Zanna would call him on the weekends and, and. And like, cheer him up kind of thing like that he was suicidal. You know, both of these fathers had problems, right? And they were really. But they loved their daughters. And, and so, you know, and the loss of their daughters, like, affected them, especially since they were kind of just hanging in there. So that’s even more. Oh, that’s so, so hard.

That’s even a harder blow because they’re already on that balancing act on. They’re on the fence that they can’t even keep themselves together with alcohol and drugs. So now a lot major loss like that. Who knows? They’re probably spiraling out of control right now, right? Well, you know, it’s hard to. I mean, possibly it was hard to tell really. I mean, other than that, that Maddie’s father looks so thin. You know, I. I was wondering, like, how much weight did he lose after she died? You know, how much did this cause him to lose weight? It was sad.

And so you couldn’t help, you know, so Brian Coburger did have a little twinge because. Because he was addicted to heroin for a year or so. And so I think he kind of related to them. So let me ask you this. You said that, you know, the, the. I guess a common trait is that they’re psychopaths, right? Obviously, to do something like this, you got to be out of your mind. But do you think that they’re. It’s a genetic trait, or do you think that it is something that’s developed over time with rejection and constant insults and criticism? Or, you know, does this happen throughout someone’s life or is it a genetic trait? Can we pin it to a gender genetics? Well, both.

There are some studies that say that they’re. That being a psychopath or a sociopath, there are some genetics connected with it that you can inherit. But, you know, just like any other thing, like, like schizophrenia, there is a genetic basis for that. But not everyone who inherits the genes for schizophrenia becomes schizophrenic. So there’s a little nature nurture type. Exactly. So same thing with a psychopath. You know, they may have inherited the gene, but they don’t have to become a psychopath. But if they grow up in a household, that’s very cruel to them. Perhaps their parents were abusive, you know, abused them sexually, physically, emotionally neglecting them.

You know, things that happened during their childhood are what would bring these things out. So let’s talk about Generation Z and, And Alpha coming up now. You know, I. I see that. To me, I’ve always said, like, the new trend, to me, what it seems like now is mental illness. If you just look on Instagram or Tik Tok or. Or any of these apps, right, it’s like, who can be the weirdest, most shocking? And it’s all for attention. Attention is like the new currency. Yes. But it really looks like it’s breeding mental illness. And it’s. And that’s what it seems like back in the day, to be famous or to be a celebrity, you had to.

And this is like 80s 90s, you know, talent, charisma, good looks. Got to be a hell of a model, got to be a hell of an actor, a great singer, a great athlete. That’s what made you. That’s what propelled you to the forefront and on television and becoming the superstar. Right now it’s all about likes, clicks, subs follows. And now it’s breeding this. Oh, you did that. I’m gonna do that. I saw a video of a young woman rolling around in a dumpster half naked. And while they’re taking her picture and she’s rolling around in garbage, to me, this is severe mental illness.

And it seems everyone is doing this now just to get a like or a click. Yes, yes, absolutely. And I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I’ve been noticing that a lot. There have been a lot of reports of deaths of. So, yes, selfie death. Well, that too. But I mean, like, a lot of influences are dying young, like in their 20s or early 30s. What would that be from? Well, I mean, I think it’s a couple of combination. I mean, first I think. Oh, I bet you they got. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Be careful with saying that.

I mean, there are people. There are people who are dying of all ages who, you know, who. Earlier than. One who were pushing that. Yes. And who. And earlier than you would think that they would die, who took. Because they. Heart problems and that kind of thing. But as far as these influencers, you know, it’s. It’s. There’s so much pressure to. To keep up. You know, it’s not enough to get a lot of likes one day kind of thing. You have to keep coming up with something new and, you know, be better than that influencer. And.

And even this. Oh, what’s it called? The women who are. Who are like, stripping. Oh, only fans. Only fans. There we go. Yeah, that’s huge. Now, like, strip clubs are actually hundreds of men to. To be. You know, get Likes on Bonnie. Bonnie Blue or whatever her name is. Who. Who slept with a thousand men in one day. I mean, I would have never imagined that. That. That I would see something like that. I thought it was bad in the 90s and early 2000s, man. Like, this today is something I’ve never seen. And, like, she’s bragging about it.

Like, what kind of. What kind of. What kind of problems is that girl gonna face when she turns 30, 35, 40, 40? Why? Seriously, like, she’s not gonna. No one’s gonna want to have her as a wife or have children with her. Well, yes, and. And so these are women who are so desperate, you know, to. For male attention that they’re. They’ll. They’re thinking, I’ll worry about that then. You know, right now I want to get. I want. I want to feel that the whole. All men want me. You know, What. What. What’s the psychology behind that? Why would a.

Is it. That’s obviously daddy issues, right? I mean, like, not having a dad around. Maybe she got touched by an uncle or something. What’s going on here with that? What kind of mentality leads a young woman like that to disrespect herself so. So bad that she sleeps with a thousand men in one day? Like, is it her trying to get back at her father? Is it her lashing out of society? What is this? It could be any and all of the above. The first. First thing that one thinks of as a therapist is abuse by daddy, by uncle, by a stranger, that kind of thing.

Because women who use little girls or. Or, you know, teenagers or even, you know, people who abused as they’re growing up, they. One of the thing. They. They blame themselves, first of all. They feel shame, and they blame themselves, even though, of course, it’s not their fault. And. And one of the things. One of the symptoms, you know, that some of them have is that they. They become promiscuous. Promiscuous. They. Because they do this as a way of sort of trying to convince themselves, oh, this isn’t so bad. You know, what happened to me? Abused. It’s okay.

I mean, I’ll. I’ll show that it’s okay by having sex with a ton of men. And. And, you know, in most cases, it’s not like a hundred. It’s like, you know, it’s like a lot of. A lot of boys in high school. Yeah. But I mean, I’m. I’m noticing, like, with, like, the younger generations, this is common, like, the most. Even in my day, most women Were promiscuous. Most people are promiscuous. From the circles I was running around with. At least, at least I thought so. I don’t know. I mean, I mean I, I know I had trauma as a kid, but I mean, and I, and I, and I was a very promiscuous adult teenager.

Adult, young adult. But I mean, but I mean I thought, I thought that was just normal. I really thought that was normal because it’s normal for me. Well, it’s more normal for guys to have sexual partners than it is for girls. But you know, I mean, it really is, for the most part it’s for, for women anyway. It is a sign of like low self esteem and, and yes, maybe used or they didn’t have a father or their father, their parents got divorced and the father left them and had another family with another woman. They some kind of feel some kind of hole.

Yeah, but, but this new feminist movement and this independent thing where they’re like, well, if a guy can do it, we can do it, right? Yes, yes. Now, you know, it’s interesting that you bring that up because that, and that has started a while ago. But this, this kind of sad thing is that, and I guess, you know, some ways that was a prelude to what we have now with only fans and all that. But you know, the sad thing is the women who wanted to act like men, you know, and have a lot of sexual partners and, and feel like detached, I’m not gonna get.

So I’m not gonna have my heart on my sleeve so that I get hurt every time it’s a one night stand and the guy doesn’t call me anymore. I’m gonna be like that, I’m gonna be the one doing one night stands. But the problem is that women are not really made like that. I agree. And, and they do get hurt. They just are pretending that they’re not and then they need more to, you know, it. So it never really works. So I’ve noticing now in my 40s, right. It’s almost like what you do in your youth, you reap either rewards or regrets later in your later years.

It seems like to me, and I’m suffering from both, but like I’m noticing a lot of women that were sleeping around with a lot of guys in their 20s, in their early 30s, are now going into their 40s, childless, single, and, and it’s kind of like, oh, I want a man now. And I’m gonna, I’m gonna try to freeze my eggs and all this. And I’m like the Break. So I’m like, I don’t know, it’s. Your chances are really slim now. Because I’m just saying, I’m saying now more than ever am I seeing. And, and people go in their mid-30s, going into their 40s, 50s, childish, single, no families, because they were sleeping around for so long and not taking anyone seriously.

They would break up quickly, go find another guy, sleep with that guy, go sleep with this guy, go see it. And it’s on both sides, men and women, by the way. And now they’re like, left there in the cold, out in the cold and out in the dark, like, oh, man. Like, maybe I do want a family. Are you seeing that a lot? Yes, yes. I mean, sometimes it’s because they were sleeping around, like you said. Sometimes it’s kind of the opposite. Divorce has horrible repercussions. Right. And you know, some people don’t want to believe that.

You know, they think, oh well, you know, and repercussions on the children’s. Children have scars of divorce where they are afraid to be in a relationship, a close relationship, a long term relationship, because they saw their parents, how hurt their parents were. Like, they identify with their mother or their father and they see how, you know, the divorce hurt them and they don’t want to go through something like that. And so they kind of, you know, they’re not necessarily sleeping around, but they’re, they prevent themselves from getting into these long term. They identify it with hurt.

Right. I, I have friends also that were adopted, but they were adopted by good families, but they also went off to have really good families. Like they, they felt, they all told me the same thing, that they felt not wanted and by their real parents, but then they went off to have families, you know, and I, if it kind of worked reverse for them. Yes, yes. Sometimes that can happen. It depends upon the family that they were adopted into, you know, how loving they were. So if they feel grateful and feel that they got all that love and all that, they want to recreate that.

But yes, people, you know, kids, kids who are given up by their mothers do carry that feeling of like, what was wrong with me. Right, right. So let me just pivot just for a second because there’s a lot of topics we’re covering here, more than I thought we would, but it’s, it’s, it’s very enjoyable. I love this conversation, but I want to talk about cte. And so I was a fighter my entire life. Right. I was a heavyweight champion boxer, you know, contender, the whole thing. And I often Wonder about the damage that was done to my brain.

And I, I know that I have friends that played pro football, pro baseball, pro, every sport there is. I, I had a lot of athlete friends, but the ones that played ball and football and boxing, I’ve, I’ve noticed, suffer from bipolar disorder or anxiety. I have anxiety issues. But some of them are more extreme. Like motor skills are really bad, or they, you know, after the sport, they re. They resort to drugs and alcohol because they got to keep that high going and, and stuff like that. Or they resort to violence easily. Now, thank God I’m not like that.

But, but, you know, the brain is like this black box, right? We don’t really know what’s going on with it. And. But now I’m seeing with my friends in their later years the CTE I, I believe is taking effect. And can you talk a little bit about that? Because some of these, these people that are, were mass shooters, like the one in, the one that just shot up, I think it was a Manhattan. That guy was. He blamed it on cte. That guy was really interesting. I mean, of course, it was a tragedy, all the four people who were killed and all that, but all that.

Yeah, yeah. Why are we laughing? That’s messed up. Yes, you’re right. But it’s a very interesting story. And he did, you know, he, he was very courageous in a way. I mean, of course it’s horrible that he killed people. And, and what’s really ironic and kind of sad is that he was told tar he wanted to target the, the NFL office in that building. Rejection once again. But his, his cte, Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy, that he wound up getting him to take the wrong elevator. I mean, it was the cte. I mean, how ironic is that? Wow.

I didn’t know that. So he was going to go in to shoot up the NFL office, and he wound up taking the wrong elevator. And so he got to a different floor because they had different elevators for different floors. So the elevator he took didn’t go up to the NFL office. But he was an interesting guy because, you know, he wrote a note to his parents, he left it in his apartment, and he wrote something about, I see in your eyes every time I look at you the disappointment that you have in me now. He was a high school football player, and he had promise, like, so I don’t know why he didn’t go to college and play college football.

I don’t know what happened there. So he didn’t even make it to college or he did make it to college. Because I don’t know much about this guy. I don’t think he did make it to college. Anyone in the comments put it in there for us. Help us out on this one. Okay? And so. And he. But he, you know, his coat. They interviewed his coaches, like, especially. He went to two different high schools, and they interviewed the coach, or at least I saw the interview of the coach from the second high school. And the coach was, you know, he.

He really, of course he felt awful. You know, I’m sure he was blaming it. What didn’t I see and why didn’t I fix this? And, you know, of course, it wasn’t really his fault. But. But he said that the co. I think there were interviews with both of them, and both of them said that he was very coachable, that whatever they told him to do to get better, that he would do, and that he was very promising. So I don’t know what happened to. To make him not go to college. Maybe he didn’t get in. But the kid felt like he fell short of his expectations that other people.

Oh, yes, what he had on himself. So, like, his parents probably had some hopes, like, his father was in the lapd, and so you could see where he maybe had some hopes about this kid becoming a star football player. So that’s why I think that he wrote, you know, I’m a disappointment to you. So because he wound up with a job in Las Vegas being like security or being on the surveillance team in. In. In. At hotels, you know, in casinos. So anyhow, but that, you know, that was far cry from being a. Far. Being a pro football player.

So. So he wanted to show that he had. And. And I think he did see cte. You can’t make the definitive diagnosis until the person is dead. And you can examine their brain cells under the microscope, but you can have. You can do different tests to have a sense that maybe that is what the person has. And he had some medication, so he was seeing some doctor for something, you know, but. But like, in order to diagnose it without being dead, you can take psychological tests. You can be, you know, examined for your symptoms, like if you have memory problems, if you have, you know, problems with your.

Your limbs, you know, control of your. Of your body, there are a whole bunch of symptoms that could lead you to believe that there’s some kind of brain problem. Now, I know that when he was in his senior year of. Of high school, he missed some games at the end. This might be why he didn’t get into college or at least, like, not on a. On a football scholarship maybe. Maybe they couldn’t afford. I don’t know. But he. He missed some games because his. His. His grade point average wasn’t high enough to keep playing. So maybe that is where the end.

No, I mean, and so he only went as far as high school, so you would have to say he developed CTE in high school. I mean, I spent my whole life boxing, right? I’ve been boxing since I was 5 years old. Fought amateur and then. And, you know, I was 36. 0 as a pro. And at the end there, I kind of felt like I blew it and I fell short of my expectations, but I didn’t lash out on anybody or anything. I blamed myself and. And that’s what I had to do to overcome it and go on to podcasting and do something else.

But for the longest time, I really felt really bad about myself and depressed and really hard on myself that I didn’t get to the. To the final. The final goal, which was the heavyweight championship of the world. But I was almost there, and I was in the top 10. And I mean, I. I still fulfilled my athletic career to, you know, so I was able to win belts and got the glory, and I was a top prospect. I did all that, but I still fell short. And I. That hurts, right? It still hurts me, but I could imagine.

But I knew a lot of athletes that I grew up with that didn’t make it into the pros or they felt. And they did have the ability, but someone wrong. And that’s a serious issue with a lot of guys, man, like this. This plagues a lot of guys that I know that were like, man, I could have done this. I did this, I did that. It’s like the Al Bundy type of syndrome, right? That’s what I call it. But it’s like. But I. I was able to have that duration, that long career, until finally the end there, which I was already in my mid-30s, and I was tired, to be quite honest with you.

But a lot of guys don’t get to feel that adulation or feel the glory which they were driving for their whole life. And they do go into drugs and alcohol and retaliate against society, right? Yes, yes, absolutely. Well, yeah, you have to be. I think you should. You deserve to be proud of how much you accomplish. See, that’s the thing, too. You can think about, like, if you never had that goal, even the higher goal, you would never have gotten as far as you did. Right. You know, I have a friend, you know, I’m saying his name, but he was monster.

He’s a hell of a football player, and he didn’t make it. He didn’t have the discipline and he had the talent. He had the strength, he had the size. He had the looks. He could have been anything. And he just fell short. And I wonder sometimes if that is what led to a life of just gnashing of teeth and regret and. You know what I mean? And it’s just he resorted to criminal behavior and I wonder, you know, if it all started with the household. Right. I mean, how he grew up. That’s why I bring that up.

Yeah. Oh, he had it all. He had it all those. On those early years and what your parents are like and, you know, how they, how they raise you. Absolutely. So, Doctor, I won’t take any more your time. Carol Lieberman, folks, I’m wondering, can I bring you on again at some point on a live video to take questions from the audience? Would you ever be open on doing that? Huh? Of course. All right, so I’ll, I’ll stay in contact with you, and where do people find you? Do you have a book or anything like that? Do you want to push out there? Sure.

My most significant book, I mean, I have four to four books, two on relationships and, and two on terrorism. And my latest one is Lions and tigers and terrorists. Oh, my. How to protect your child in a time of terror. So my website is terroristtherapist.com Lions, tigers and what? No, Lions and Tigers and. Lions and tigers and Terrorists. Oh, my. That’s a hell of a title. How to protect your child in a time of terror. Got it. Thank you, doctor, so much. Stick with me just for a second. Sure.
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