Do we make? Do we, the US. Make things worse, even for the Israelis, by our muscular presence there? And before you answer, Chris Kirby, three innocent civilians are going to die. This is war. It is combat, it is bloody, it is ugly, and it's going to be messy, and innocent civilians are going to be hurt going forward. I wish I could tell you something different. I wish that that wasn't going to happen. 

But it is going to happen. And that doesn't make it right. It doesn't make it dismissible. It doesn't mean that we aren't going to still express concerns about that and do everything we can to help the Israelis do everything they can to minimize it. But that's, unfortunately, the nature of conflict. Does our muscular military presence there make things worse for Israel? Well, I got to comment, first off, on John Kirby's. 

Really nicely done. Velvet, almost a velvet sheen about him. The suit and the tie go together so well. I think it just adds to his aura of spokesmanship. Just saying, See, you are busting his chops. I like busting. And we both know him. He thinks you're flattering him. He does. I know he I know. Yes, John, I'm flattering you. Anyway, let's move on to the question. So, Judge, look, he's saying the obvious, and he's saying the obvious because they have no idea of what to do. 

Biden understands clearly what the consequences are going to be of the Israelis going in. This is not new. You don't need John Kirby. Admiral Kirby reiterating to us what we've known since the beginning of warfare, that people, innocent people, are going to be suffering and they're probably going to die. And it's an unfortunate thing. I don't believe in it. You and I have had personal conversations about this. 

You know, my personal beliefs regarding warfare. I don't think it should be engaged unless absolutely necessary, but there are times you have to engage in it. And so I don't know why Kirby is taking such a dramatic pause to put this out there. I will say this. As I mentioned earlier in our interview, the Biden administration is trying to have it both ways. They want to support the Israelis and be very adamant about it, want to send in these generals to help advise. 

At the same time, they're trying to work with Hamas to make sure that the hostages, US hostages, are returned as a priority $100 million to the Palestinians, and also working behind the scenes to undermine the strategic interests of the Israelis by trying to encourage others, other nations, to ask for a ceasefire. So, again, there's a bifurcation of policy. Kirby knows this. And so the only thing Kirby can go to is this dramata. 

It's like, oh, yeah, it's going to be bad, and it is going to be bad. But that's not John Kirby's job to tell us. I think the media is going to do a good job on its own. .